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longtime leader, hassan nasrallah, and strikes last night on apartment complex in beirut. israel claims that hezbollah was using the complex as in underground headquarters . this represents a major escalation of the back-and- forth between israel and hezbollah, which israel has intensified in the last couple weeks. the strikes killed several other high-ranking hezbollah officials and the iranian state news that says in revolutionary guard general was killed in the same strike. lebanon lawns -- and more than 100 wounded in the strikes. that number is expected to rise. nasrallah is a travertine cleric, who has led the group since 1992 and has grown the group in most powerful running back and forth and the reason both militarily and political terry. it is what is called a state within a state. he also led the group through decades of conflict with israel, participate in the syrian civil war on behalf of of the regime and help back others in the region including
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the houthis in yemen. the national security council so that is access to resistance will respond was horse at the right time and that israel has opened the gates against itself . the biden administration says it was not alerted ahead of time to yesterday strike in beirut. today israel and hezbollah about to continue fighting and have each carried out the strikes. when to go right to international correspondent matt bradley, where it is now dark. you have been covering this since it happened. tell me about the latest. >> reporter: we have been seeing and hearing from people crying and sobbing on the street of a root. those who were followers was a federated figure in the middle east. it is important to note there are exceptions to that. in israel he was public enemy number one. he was much more of a symbol of
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the antagonism against israel and even some of the leading hamas speakers. it is widely believed that the israelis missed all of the cues leading up to the october 7th attacks. they started this greatest round of conflict they were so focused on this man, hassan nasrallah. he built houthis not just into a ragtag militia, which was when he ascended to power back in 1992 but into something more resembling a full on army. very sophisticated weapons with the ability to enter into politics with a parallel political structure that gave him ministerial positions. this made him a formidable force, not just here in lebanon but through the out the entire middle east. at the same time, he was behind with support from the iranians, he was the biggest receiver of iranian -- any help to train other groups that were antagonistic to israel and part attacks throughout the entire
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middle east. he was also, in recent years, much more despised by the public he claimed to represent that he was before. after the 2006 war israel laid waste to southern lebanon. that was started by hassan nasrallah . they went across the border and kidnapped two israeli soldiers and invited this response from the israelis. that response was so ferocious but actually hassan nasrallah came out and said he regretted starting that war. after that, he was solid in his reputation by his involvement in syria. that is when he rose up with his formidable army to defend a serious dictator and turn his guns, not against the israelis but against fellow muslims, specifically against all of the freedom fighters in syria. and the islamist groups were also fighting. that really earned him but of the ire of a lot of people in the most involved, who had seen them in
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a hero in the fight against israel. as one of the biggest sponsors of the so-called axis of resistance that the iranians have compiled in the last several decades. while you will see a lot of images tonight out of beirut, protesters, people sobbing in the streets. we have already been seeing that. with wailing and wary of the death of hassan nasrallah. even here in lebanon, there are a lot of people who are going to be pleased to see hassan nasrallah dad. they will be pleased to see that this man , who had such a firm grip of politics in this country has now died and maybe hezbollah's grip over lebanon might loosen and allow for other to emerge and maybe walk this country back to the be in inevitable work israel. >> you quite widely do not engage in speculation because you cannot get into that business. however, when nasrallah
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ascended to the top of hezbollah in 1992, he did so because his predecessor was assassinated. there was a sense while they struck a blow at hezbollah and he took it from him a ragtag organization into one of the most effective fighting forces in the middle east. is there a parallel? they have taken out a lot of leadership of hezbollah in the last 12 hours. and yet, one does not know. >> reporter: there is a major parallel. they have taken out a lot of leadership in all of these groups from ices to al qaeda, to hamas, there is always leaders waiting in the wings. people are xers on counterterrorism and tell you that this decapitation of these groups, while it is alluring and an enticing way of trying to defeat them, it does not always work. there is always someone who is a successor who can move into that position. we do not know who that is and this case. in many ways the main parallel is what is happening contemporaneously in the gaza
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strip with hamas. israel has been going about this business in a similar way. they have now attacked -- they do not bring in ground troops yet. they have attacked israel over the past week in an unprecedented fashion. i do not use that word lightly. we have not seen this kind of violence since before the 2006 war where israel really punished lebanon and hezbollah in that huge attack with the ground incursion. we have already seen -- is and i quote one of the most recent statements -- one of the thousand people dead. that is similar to what we saw over 30 days in the war between hezbollah and israel back in 2006. this is a concentrated offensive that the israelis have launched and we are likely not sing the end of it, even just sitting around the hotel now, we have been hearing bombardments right along the coast. not quite in the neighborhood where they were yesterday but we did see one
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here earlier in the day. the israelis are not finished yet. even though they have gotten the ultimate price, hassan nasrallah, public enemy number one in israel. it looks as though they are determined to defeat this group not just by cutting off its leadership but by going after his rank and file and possibly killing many more lebanese civilians and that will be something that we are going to be hearing the impact of in the days and weeks ahead. hezbollah is probably -- has said they are determined to respond to this. may have already been victim of that unprecedented -- i use that word, was unprecedented, pager and walkie-talkie attacks last week. they sheared off the trigger fingers of thousands of commandos, who would have been fighting against israel if israel were launching a ground invasion. this is a very different but a similar situation to what we saw back in 1992.
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when the predecessor to hassan nasrallah was assassinated by the israelis. this time around it looks like the israelis are prepared to block that line of succession and make sure that when they cut the head off the snake, it does not go back. >> thank you. matt bradley for us in beirut. we will stay close to you as we have been doing through the course of the day. let us go to tel aviv. aaron mcglocklin is there. we have heard reports that there has been sirens going off in tel aviv. tell me what is going on in tel aviv and in israel. >> reporter: just over an hour ago, we did hear sirens sound here in tel aviv, learning the israelis to head to their shelters, according to israeli military they intercepted a missile fired from yemen toward central israel, explosion as they intercepted the missile could be heard here in tel
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aviv. it is exactly the kind of attack that israeli officials are most concerned about. and even expecting in the wake of this assassination. they are on high alert. not just for retaliatory attacks from lebanon but also from yemen and other parts of the region as people across the middle east hear the news and understand exactly what has happened. this missile strike, as we are learning more about what to place in the moments following the assassination the israeli military this morning, shortly after confirming the news that nasrallah is dead released audio of an exchange between the israeli commander, who ordered the strike that killed nasrallah and the fighter pilot who dropped the bomb bear on beirut. it is clear from that exchange that they knew what they were
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targeting and the importance of that strike. take a listen. >> [ speaking in a global language ] becomes, given that a large portion, if not the majority of hezbollah's leadership has been effectively wiped out and targeted by the israeli military, does that create space for the israeli military to consider a potential pause? that is the question that andrea mitchell put to a senior
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israeli official shortly following the assassination and he said that israel intends to build on this momentum. thing there is something called momentum. you take advantage when your opponent is down. you keep moving and that is exactly what we have seen it play out today. the israeli military announcing a number of continuing strikes there in it beirut and across lebanon. at the same time, the senior israeli official adding that they would like to avoid a potential ground invasion of lebanon. something that we have been talking about at this week given the israeli military had call of to reserve brigades to the lebanese border. they have been engaging in ground exercises and raising a possibility they could send in ground forces. senior officials saying they would like to avoid that for a number of reasons, though not taking that option off the table. >> erin mclaughlin in tel aviv, thank you.
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join me now is calling clark director research. colin, i was talking to matt bradley thing that experts will be able to give us a better sense of what happens now. given the extent of leadership that was taken out of hezbollah. that is last 12 to 18 hours. we have seen this before. matt gave lots of examples of the fact that it looks like you take up the leadership, not as simple as it sometimes appears. >> exactly. matt referred to as decapitation strikes. which is what we call this . history is littered with examples of leaders that have been removed from terrorist organization but the group has continued that is likely what we will see here. almost definitely. this is a group that is 30,000 fighter strong . 150,000 rocket and missiles.
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absolutely, the leadership was eliminated. this is been an impressive technical display by the israelis. hezbollah is part of the social fabric of lebanon. when you think about where they sit within the broader axis of resistance, this is the crown jewel for the iranians. they will do everything they can to rebuild the organization. much as they did after the 2006 conflict. you both reference 1992 after the killing of -- we will see the same thing here. better the devil you know versus the ww could have some of the radical and you are coming up -- a very different story than hamas. they are the single most powerful piece of the social and political fabric in that country. talk to me about that and the impact that has on what we are seeing unfold.
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>> this is reflective of state failure. lebanon is very much a failed state. the government lacked the capability to govern the entire country. hezbollah, we refer to them over as a ragtag militia. today there are akin to a conventional military. they have social services network throughout the country. they have their own construction company which comes in and rebuild homes after the israeli damage or destroy them. this is a group that is not going away. they have a hold in government. we will see the next generation, the next echelon of hezbollah leaders rise to the top . tactics should not be confused with strategies and impressive tactical display for the israelis. my question becomes, what happens next? what is the endgame? >> what happens next is one we are just weighing the israeli military the idf versus hezbollah. it does not compare to the idf we are talking about a regional
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issue. we are talking about iran. we talk about hezbollah and hamas as iranian proxies. depending on your age, you think proxies do what their sponsor tells him to do. how sure are we about that? letter what has ballade does as at the behest of iran? >> there is some great writing on this by people of philip smith and others. hezbollah has more autonomy than some of the other proxy groups in some ways. i think this latest, you know, exchange, where the iranians have been very reluctant and hesitant to get involved may put a little more daylight between iran and hezbollah one thing that can actually revive the group quite quickly would the israeli ground invasion. that would play to hezbollah's strength. it would make what we are seeing right now look like child's play. the israelis would be entering hezbollah's home turf. where they take the asymmetric advantage and provide
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explosive devices, antitank guided missiles. i would be a bit of a hornets nest. and quite counterproductive giving anything the israelis have done. they can also, in many ways, become a slippery slope and the israelis could sever. they occupied south lebanon. there is a lot of bad memories on all sides. >> colin, thank you for your expertise. colin clark is a director research at the soup on group. our coverage of the assassination of hassan nasrallah will continue. we will be right back . ♪♪ super helpful. ♪♪ [ cheering ] what are invoices? progressive makes it easy to see if you can save money with a commercial auto quote online so you can get back to all your other to-dos. absolutely not. get a quote at progressivecommercial.com.
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me now an independent journalist with over 20 years of experience covering the middle east. i want to pick off where we finish off with colin clark with what happens next in israel. one of the few things that the israelis have signaled about their adventures in lebanon is the tried to avoid a ground
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incursion. that is not something that would have right spread was -- support in israel. and would be difficult are they going on in the west bank and gaza. important pack -- >> the idea has called up a number of reserve industry and it is making it clear that if necessary, it is prepared to launch, i don't know about a ground invasion but a ground incursion, which would create, in southern lebanon, a kind of no man's own. something that israel has tried with middling success in the past. >> tell me what is going on right now. the politics of this. you and i have been talking particularly in this busy week where benjamin netanyahu was here in new york for the united nations. there was protest here and there continue to be protested in israel. where does this fit into the emerging politics of israel? >> the posttest right now as we
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speak. it is saturday evening here. despite the fact that the official organization represented the hostages call off tonight protest because of security dangers, many people, thousands of people are on the streets in tel aviv and jerusalem anyway. i want to tell you that i just came home from about two hours in east jerusalem. i was able to speak with local palestinians. it is very interesting. there were one or two you said, this is bad news and very dangerous and we are expecting air raid sirens even in jerusalem tonight. however, many people, many more than i would've expected said to me, nasrallah is dead and most of us are very happy . i think it is important to remember the nuance. nasrallah was responsible for many more deaths of arabs and palestinians in syria that he was of israelis.
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this is a mixed situation. among israelis, what you here mostly is talk of iran. for israelis it has been clear for a long time that hezbollah is a translation from persian. the parochial arm of the iranian armed forces. israelis are kind of in the grim anticipation of a possible reaction. and viewing what is happening in lebanon with deep concern. >> for whatever reason the issue of a cease-fire deal and the hostage release hasn't fallen off the map in the last few weeks. you do not hear the white house talking about it you do not hear benjamin netanyahu talking about it. this seems to be the major preoccupation of the israeli defense establishment at the moment. >> and of the israeli people. where returning the hostages home remains the number one issue by a very long shot.
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i want to disagree with you just a little bit. the white house keeps pushing this issue. even today a white house post person that the diplomatic efforts are not at all off the table. the white house has been making an attempt to link a cease-fire between israel and hezbollah with efforts to negotiate an end to the fighting in gaza. they are sort of sibling organizations, kind of subcontractors of iran. that was effort. it is unclear how functional and operational they are right now in the short-term after this a massive setback for them. and i think we have to probably await two or three days to see what extent hezbollah, a very powerful group, can regroup and can launch i retaliation against israel or can persuade iran to do so on its behalf. >> those are the main questions we have.
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and helps red bull revolutionize coverage of live events. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. our special coverage of breaking news out of the middle east continues. hezbollah has confirmed that the israeli military has killed hassan nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah in an airstrike that leveled multiple residential buildings and killed at least 11 people, according to lebanon's health ministry. this marks a blow for hezbollah, which has transformed drastically under nasrallah's 32 years of leadership. hezbollah was formed during the civil war in 1982. primarily as a militia group in response to an israeli invasion bring nasrallah uses connections to obtain funds and weapons. hezbollah and hamas are similar in that sense that hezbollah
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is a much better arm fund it and organize than hamas is. it has grown its arsenal. hezbollah has become a state within a state offering social services in locaunes an holding seats in parliament. joining me now to discuss more about the state of lebanon is rodney, an award-winning journalist for over two decades of experience covering the middle east with a great piece right now in the new yorker and senior correspondent at the huffington post. welcome to both of you. rodney, there is a lot of complexity to this one. there are people in lebanon who loved and hated hassan nasrallah but he was a formidable military leader. i would argue in and amongst the lebanese infrastructure, the most formidable. no one knows anybody outside of lebanon but everyone knew hassan nasrallah of hezbollah. >> reporter: where you loved him or loathed him and his supporters left him, he was a towering figure not just in lebanon but across the middle
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east. his loss has been very deeply felt in beirut. i have to tell you that i have been out all day reporting. i was out in the morning among some of his supporters, people who had been displaced by the is massive israeli ill strikes. i just could not believe that the man was actually present in or around those buildings. when the news broke that he had, in fact, been killed, many of the same people i spoke to in the morning told me they did not believe the news. that seems to be a sentiment. some had to get on the tv and say this is official hezbollah statement. the group itself has confirmed the death of this man. >> we were waiting for the same thing this morning. we were on air with that happening you could never know what is going on. people claim things and we wanted to have it confirmed.
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now that we know it is true the question becomes, what effect does this have on hezbollah? which is probably the greatest threat that israeli is facing at the moment. it is most powerful group on the board with the ability to cause great trouble for israel. >> reporter: absolutely. western officials call hezbollah the crown jewel of the network of allies around the region and is a porch remember this is all inexplicable from the israel/iran relationship and the u.s./iran relationship. can an agreement be reached not just on lebanon but on managing tensions among all those players? for now, we do not see a plan from the israeli side or lebanese side to move forward. the decisions on the lebanese side hinge on the speaker of parliament, who is seen as some of the new u.s. negotiates with. i think that is a lot of holding
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folks right now. all of that said, retaliation from hezbollah seems impossible to avoid. what is important is that because tension has been going on for almost a year following the october 7th attack, any kind of mistake, any miscalculation could lead to huge consequences. if there is a hezbollah strike inside israel, even if it does not look planned, that could lead to a situation where we bring back tensions. we were speaking with u.s. officials and other diplomats, there is a real desire for u.s./iran the esco tory bar will israel go along? well hezbollah along and will the lebanese go along? that is the question. >> we are scrolling through a release from a president biden right now. and again, he is saying i direct my secretary of defense
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to further enhance the defense posture of u.s. military forces to deter aggression and reduce the risk of a broader regional war. ultimately, our aim is to de- escalate the conflict in both gaza and lebanon through diplomatic means. in gaza, we have purged ideal for a cease-fire and the release of hostages. in lebanon we have negotiating a deal that return people safely to their homes in israel and southern lebanon. it is time for these deals to close and the press to be removed and the broader middle east region to gain greater stability. part of the issue is that the united states has been sending messages that sound like that since october the 7th. to not the effect that america would have given its influence in the region. it does not feel like the united states is the key player in getting some sort of resolution whether it is on gaza war with israel and lebanon.
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>> reporter: you would be hard- pressed to find anyone here who thinks the u.s. is serious about these diplomatic maneuvers and talks of a cease- fire while he continues to arm israel and provide diplomatic political and military cover. i think it was this we there was $7 billion in military aid. correct me if i am wrong. it has been a busy week in beirut. those calls fall on deaf ears here. >> talk to me that what is going on for beirut. we have 50,000 be dealing with israel and iran dealing with sentiments have shifted in lebanon in general. why 100,000 people are displaced because of this fighting. i think it is a slightly smaller number. in israel, same thing these attacks we have seen including the pages and the walkie- talkies, they have caused the level of unease in lebanese society amongst people who are disconnected from hezbollah and have nothing to do a hezbollah. these are basic lebanese people trying to live their lives.
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>> reporter: it has been a tremendous two weeks in lebanon, almost unprecedented as you mentioned the attacks with the pages and walkie- talkies. which targeted much of hezbollah militants but also civilians . hezbollah has parliamentarians, it has ministers in the government. it run schools, hospitals and things like that. there was other people in the vicinity. that was the first shock. lebanese, including the government, consider those act of terrorism. they were people that were turned into ied's, the devices were turned into ied's. that was the first shock. and then there has been a series of massive shocks to the system since then. i drove around early and you could hear a pin drop in normally bustling city streets. people are concerned i do not know what this means. hezbollah, i have to say, is an institution.
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it does not rest on one man. hassan nasrallah took over from a predecessor who was assassinated by israel. he has lost many commanders since october 7th. they were very senior and high- level commanders who had been with them since the group was founded in 1982 because of the israeli occupation of southern lebanon. it is an institution. the remaining leaders will now meet you and they will vote and elect a new secretary general. i have to show you that there are short clips of the speech that is making the round on social media. he, himself, talks about how the loss of commanders does not mean the loss of organizational capacity. when he has eulogized some of these men in recent weeks, he has talked about how they were raised generations of commanders behind him. as an institution it continues. it has certainly been dealt a blow, by just -- these rakes
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have been unprecedented in terms of the impacts of hezbollah. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate your analysis and reporting. rania abouzeid is award-winning journalist with over two decades of experience. akbar shahid ahmed is a senior disc o-matic correspond at huffington post. our coverage continues after this. xt spr g. how do you know all of this? says it right there on the bag. yes, it does. download the my lawn app today for lawn care tips and customized plans. feed your lawn. feed it.
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joining me now daniel margin and joyce, news editor. thank you for being with us. we have been talking a lot about iran, the potential response about hezbollah being the most important part of iran network of allies in the middle east. what are we hearing out of iran? >> among those killed yesterday was not just hassan nasrallah. there was also an iranian general who was also killed. many will see this as a
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declaration of war against what some call this access of resistance backed and supported by iran. we heard from iranian leaders today. first the newly elected president, who called this a war crime. an undeniable and blatant war crime. as well from the supreme leader , who called on all muslims around the world to unite, standby as hezbollah and lebanon. i'm quoting . he said of the zionist criminals need to know they are far too weak to inflict any damage on hezbollah. and that the massacre of defense of -- defense of people was shortsighted but the fate of this region is determined by the forces of resistance. what you have here is an oppression of solidarity with lebanon. what you do not see is a promise or a bow of revenge
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against israel. instead it seems that the leaders in iran are putting that responsibility on hezbollah and the forces that it supports. among them the houthis out of yemen who have vowed to continue the fight. there was condemnation out of russia out of iraq, turkey, saying today that israel is continuing his policy of what he says of genocide, occupation and invasion. calling on the u.n. to stop israel. the u.n. seems quite powerless. we have heard in the last hour or so from that u.n. chief, antonio gutierrez who says that the violence in lebanon must stop. >> let us talk about this more with what danielle said about what iran is not doing pretty there are 1 million reasons for that. iran has been trying and hoping for a bit of a renaissance with america after things have gone bad between these two countries , post the iran nuclear deal.
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while we like to think of proxies as actual proxies, in some cases, particularly has the law, it is bigger than a proxy. it is bigger than a franchisee. is it its own thing. >> when iran is what happened with hezbollah, they are in shock. the losses that hezbollah has encountered over the last week are unprecedented in the history of the parties since 1983. we are talking about a man in control. we are targeting that should talking about significant troubles that hezbollah's internal rakes are having even communicating with each other. they tried to cell phones and those were intra-traded. they moved to pagers, those got blown up, just last week. and then they moved to meetings and bunkers and those got bombed. this is a moment of crisis, not as for hezbollah, but also for
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iran. mind you we saw among those killed in beirut today, they had some forces in lebanon. that puts it in a corner position. i have no doubt that iran would love helping hezbollah at this moment . initially, they have to regroup. they have to make sure that there is some leadership still intact with in hezbollah and to purge and infiltrate and reassess where any retaliation or anything like that would stand. >> danielle, we are keeping a close eye on what is going on in israel. there have been some sirens in tel aviv. they are expected to be some in other parts of israel. at this point, what is your sense out of israel on a footing that is prepared for our ground incursion but probably not wanting to expend
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the resources on that. israel has been stretched thin as it relates to reserve forces. >> reporter: you kind of said it earlier. it is not matter how will you know the story or covered the middle east. you cannot say what comes next. what we do know is the israeli government in the past two weeks has made the return of tens of thousands of israeli citizens back home in the northern community award goal now. if israel manages to do what hezbollah has done with gaza, with hamas in gaza, it might've bought itself a few years but then what? sort of degrade them for a few years. what is the strategy? is it going to be the mobile launch strategy, as it is known. they are going to go back. but then what? over the summer you heard of the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., antony blinken, the secretary of state, president biden, talk about this need to lower the temperature. it seems
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the temperature has only gone up over the summer. first you have the assassination in tehran. and due to a bomb that had been planted there two months before in a guesthouse in tehran. it failed to be detected by the irg. and then you had another hezbollah commander all within 24 commanders. israel taking responsibility talk about his actuation -- assassination. it is widely believed israel was behind that. several weeks later the pager attack, the walkie-talkie attack. and here we are now. you heard benjamin netanyahu yesterday at the u.n. typically netanyahu, defined with his props at the u.n. and what he said -- he had a message for the tyrants of tehran. he said there is no place in iran that the long arm of
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israel cannot reach. israel not taking responsibility, claiming responsibly for the assassination. i think a lot of people would have thought of that assassination in that moment. ever since then, all of september bracing for an attack in israel by iran, which never really came. sort of giving the impression that iran was sitting on the sidelines but now that the head of its most powerful proxy group has been eliminated. what comes next? and what will iran next at b? we wait and see. we met we will wait and see. thanks to boca for you. we will be right back. ight back. get another free. the only hard part is, telling travis he doesn't get the second footlong. wait, seriously? i got you next time, buddy! order now in the subway app. ♪♪ rising costs. selective coverage. for countless americans,
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and there's crest 3dwhitestrips white. whitens like a 400 dollar professional treatment. pilot: prepare for non-stop smiles. crest. back with me now matt bradley, nbc international correspondent. he is in beirut, which has been kinetic over the last 12 to 18 hours. what is the situation? par kinetic is certainly one word for it. we have been seeing and hearing even more bobbing. just on the coastline. and earlier today there was another one that struck the neighborhood right over here on my right shoulder. in between punctuating all of that, we have been hearing gunshots. we do not think that was because of some sort of firefight. this was most likely gunshots that were done in morning because they were coming from the neighborhood which was the sight of where nasrallah was
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assassinated. and the massive succession of different glasses that were fired by the israelis. they took credit for it immediately. it was only today that we actually heard hezbollah taking responsibility. and now the streets of beirut in the capital have been filled with people who are mourning his death. we have been seeing people sobbing in the streets. to sing this mostly on social media. it bears repeating that not everyone in lebanon is going to be sad about the death of hassan nasrallah even though he was a venerated figure for those who were opposed to israel . there were a lot of people here who were not so publicly but still are going to be -- you can almost hear more bombs just now. there is a lot of people who will be pleased to see that back of hassan nasrallah. hoping that this means that hezbollah might unclench its grip on lebanon. this nation that is a failed
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state, in part, because of all the secretary of fighting that has lasted for so many decades. and when we talk about hezbollah it was hassan nasrallah that belted not just into a formidable fighting force against israelis but also into potent political power that took over much of this country it has seats in parliament. he has positions in the ministries and it actually has a big stake in the ruling government here. it is also been behind -- thought to have been behind some high profile assassination including one of the more revered prime ministers in lebanese history. there are a lot of folks here. not all of them, in other religions other than travertine islam, which is where hezbollah claims most fathers. even some shia, as muslims would say, they are dissatisfied with the way that hezbollah has brought the war to this country. they started their latest round
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of fighting. that was a volunteer move by hezbollah. they fired against israel in solidarity against israel's fighting in the gaza strip and solidarity with hamas. ever since then, we have seen successes fights back and forth with a low level of conflict. erupted into a full on conflict in just the past two weeks with the bombings of pagers and walkie-talkies last week and now the shelling, repeatedly of transiting targets throughout southern lebanon. beirut is that hezbollah stronghold. and it ended last night. the ultimate of doing of the leader of 32 years and several of his top lieutenants. >> and a top official of the iranian revolutionary guard, a member of the quds force. thank you for your excellent
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reporting. we will continue to stay close but there is no one better than you are and breaking down the story. nbc international correspondent, matt bradley in beirut. stay right where you are. alex witt picks up our news coverage right after the break. carpal tunnel syndrome, and lower back pain, we wondered, could these be warning signs of something bigger? thank goodness we called his cardiologist because these were signs of attr-cm, a rare and serious disease... ...that gets worse over time. if you see any of the warning signs, don't wait, ask your cardiologist about attr-cm today.
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