people think about her. here is some of that. >> what does kamala harris stand for? i am a daughter of parents who were activists in the civil rights movement. they actually took me, when i was in a stroller, to civil rights marches. they were fighting for freedom, for justice, for equality. >> does the campaign see this as a more effective way to reach voters unnecessarily traditional news interviews? >> yeah, absolutely. you really get a sense of who she is. a lot of people think they don't know who she is or what she stands for but when you do those types of interviews that are more engaging and more personal, you get to see her personality shine through. she was off script, she was off teleprompter and i do think it reaches people and also, most people and a lot of young people get their news from tiktok, which, you know, our 30 minute -- 32nd to 62nd soundbites. >> okay, we will see you next weekend, i hope. born the breaking news in

lebanon about the israeli airstrike that killed the head of hezbollah of hezbollah from world headquarters in new york.or we begin with breaking news from the middle east. here is what is new this hour. the idf now says apart from killing nasrallah, leader of hezbollah on friday, it has also killed a second senior hezbollah official . this is an attack on apartment complex in beirut. o at least 11 people were killed, 108 injured in the attack according to the lebanese health ministry as israel continues to pound targets in lebanon also new official telling nbc news israel decided to assassinate nasrallah after concluding he would not accept a diplomatic solution to end fighting on the israel/lebanon border. it was notle tied to an end of the war in gaza.

protesters gathering on the street in tehran today. officials saying an iranian military general was also oay killed on friday adding they expect to deploy troops to lebanon. t also, the u.s. state department is ordering the departure of certain embassy personnel and their family members from the u.s. embassy in beirut. and a new statement from kamala harris says, quote, hassan nasrallah was a terrorist with american blood on his hands . his leadership of hezbollah destabilize the middle east and led to the killing of countless innocent people in lebanon, israel, syria and around the world. todayd hezbollah's victims hav a measure of justice. we have a number of reporters and analysts around the world looking at all the angles to this bringing newsprint we will go to matt bradley joining us once again from beirut. what a rehearing from the u.s. state department to american citizens in lebanon? t

>> reporter: this latest thing from the state department is something we have been hearing quite a bit. various different verbiage trying to tell americans to please leave. now it is getting a little bit, just a little bit more desperate in their language. it really telling americans to get out now while commercial flights are still available. e. the people but ice folk with ut who know about this thing, people at the embassy and others , the issue is that the embassy does not want to have a lot of americans who are clamoring at the doors desperate for the embassy to airlift them out. we do not know if the u.s. government is planning some sort of evacuation plan for americans who are still in lebanonan, if this war comes, they do not want to be ey responsible for hundreds or thousands of americans clamoring to get out as fast as they can. they are also saying and this s is a major change, they are saying that basically, the authorized departure of mission employed people and family members not essential to u.s.

direct hire employees. basically, people who are not foreign service officers and not critical employees to the embassy are now making their way out of the country. that is a major change in the posture of the u.s. embassy. there is a big difference between what we've been hearing for the last year and what we are hearing right now we do not know if this means hearing that there is definitely going to beh a ground invasion. it would be a repeat of what happened in 2006, which was incredibly destructive., we have already seen that level of destruction that happened over the course of a month in ou 2006 and we have seen it now. really, in just the course of one week. a more concentrated version of that war back in ve 2006 has already come to pass. 6 that is even before we have seen an israeli ground incursion. there is a lot of fears that even though israel got the main prize for we just heard from benjamin netanyahu saying that

hassan nasrallah is not a terrorist but the terrorist, boasting about how they got the main guy. an architect of plans. he said in his speech that iran -- he did iran's bidding against israel but often he had iran do his bidding. in many ways israel seems to have seen nasrallah as iran's puppetmaster. la not just iran is a puppetmaster of nasrallah. despite this huge price, the israelis still have more in store for lebanon. >> matt, stay with me. running right now we have erin mclaughlin from tel aviv. it was referenced that benjamin netanyahu had spoken minutes ago. what else did he say? >> reporter: we just heard from the israeli prime minister speaking publicly for the first time since the assassination, having cut his trip to new york short and returning to israel

as soon as he could. addressing, tonight, the rayleigh -- israeli people! he took the decision to kill hassan nasrallah at the beginning of the week and he explained the reasons why. take a listen. >> translator: i gave instruction andra nasrallah is longer with us. his killing brings closer to the return of the people in the north to their homes and return to hostages from the south. this increases the chances for hostages going back.es >> reporter: you hear him and their reference the leader of hamas. he is arguing the rayleigh -- is really prime minister role prompt him to his race the israeli hostages and at least help prompt that.

we have heard from hamas in ther wake of the assassination and say that this assassination will only serve to embolden hamas and increase the palestinian as well as the lebanese will to fight and resist the israelis. now, at this point in israel and across the country, not only in tel aviv, israel these are bracing for the potential of retaliatory strikes as a result of the assassination earlier today o. according to t israeli military, a missile was firedi in the direction of central israel here in tel aviv. the siren sounded and people returning to shelters. it was intercepted with no injuries reported. it is the kind of attack that officials are say they are bracing for going forward, given the fact that israel shows no signs of stopping. >> erin, i will ask you to stay with me as well. joining my conversation with you . and matt we have an

independent journalist who covers the middle east. a welcome to you. i know you have decades of experience covering the israeli/palestinian conflict would give us the egg significance of these recent events and what the reaction th inside of israel. >> the significance is major. hassan nasrallah has about a the last 35 years of his life to try to eliminate israel from the map. in many ways he was behind terror attacks against the israeli embassy in britain is iris. that far away in the early '90s, against jewish community centers lythere and u.s. milita. he is a major, major figure importantly, for iran, which is attempting to establish a regional -- right now. he was the peripheral arm of the iranian armed forces. he and his organization. it is going to be very important

to pay attention to how hezbollah manages to regroup in the coming days and weeks. inside israel, reactions are extremely varied, as you might expect. the families of hostages and thousands and thousands who support themsa fear that all of the activity in lebanon in the last week is being used to try and erase the fact that 100 or more hostages are still being held in gaza from the public consciousness in israel. they are trying to face the failure to get them back after full year of war under, you know, these images. >> noga, do you have any sense that this action might help expiate the return of hostages? let me tell you why i asked. l erin mclaughlin, who is part of the conversation reported in the last hour by playing a clip between a commander and the actual pilot who dropped the

missile that took out hassan nasrallah. between the two of them there was an expression that this would help bring back the hostages , they hoped. do you see an ability for that to happen? >> that conversation was between the air force commander and the pilot. i don't know. i do know that with in the israeli military, there is a clear sense of the most important task ahead of them is to try and help get the hostages back. b what the israeli army has a yesterday and today is while they are prepared for any kind of scenarios, including an interesting invasion or partial invasion of southern lebanon, they are leaving space open for diplomatic activities. i think that the pilot, personally,k hopes that eliminating such a powerful person as hassan nasrallah from

the picture, might help push the different parties still th involved in negotiations towards a negotiation. that is far from being an israeli government official position. >> erin, i am looking at some notes of the transcription from benjamin netanyahu, do you recall you mentioning anything about getting the hostages home in the wake of this? >> reporter: he it is addressed to the israeli people said that he believes that the assassination of hassan nasrallah will help s to put pressure on yahya sinwar to release the hostages. the israeli thinking that yahya sinwar wants to spark a regional conflict and the thinking being if he sees that i hassan nasrallah is no more, that support from hezbollah

will no longer be there. it might push him, according to the israeli prime minister , addressing publicly his people -- it might push yahya sinwar i to reach some sort of deal. r that calculus is dubious considering what hamas itself set earlier today in the wake of the assassination. that the resistance would continue and vowing to continue his fight with israel. >> matt, with regards to i rain and reports which you highlighted that there are that they are going to send troops to lebanon. what happens next with iran? what extent will that heighten things and push the prospect of a ground war or do you think that is not on the table? >> reporter: i really don't think that is on the table. th i don't expect iran to send troops to lebanon. i have not heard reports there were troops being sent to lebanon by iran. i think that would be a major escalation if that were to

happen. i've not heard any reports la saying that iran is going to be sending troops to lebanon. if that were to occur, it would be a very dangerous escalation and very destabilizing for lebanon itself. it could happen. the lebanese and hezbollah has close connections with iran. i believe it was axios reported that hezbollah reached out to iran and asked iran to intervene directly against israel. they were rebuffed and the iranian said no they would not do that. that would be a deeply destabilizing for the entire middle east. it would force the israelis to get ly winto her direct crossfi iranian troops. which already happened back in april for psboth sides stepped backfo. >> i apologize for attributing you with that. we did have the report that it had been reported that iran would send some troops into lebanon. given the leadership void and

the fact that hezbollah answers to iran, the boy that is now presented with the death of hassan nasrallah and other senior leadership in hezbollah . what fills the vacuum? doesn't make any sense to have iran send proxies into lebanon to help stabilize the area? >> reporter: we know there was an iranian official, a member of the i rgc, who was killed and that is the republican guard. one of the main groups that the iranians use in order to project their power to the axis of resistance. they are backed by the running is. they are the most powerful by far amongst the axis of resistance. one amof the officials from within that group, an iranian national was killed, according to lebanese health officials, in the attack yesterday that also killed hassan nasrallah. there are iranian boots on the r ground but there is not a large powerful military force of rank-

and-file troops who are on the - ground here. to answer your question, it does make sense when the iranianse project their power leadership in hezbollah. n the fact that hezbollah has a fealty to iran written into their charter and written into their manifesto that founded the group, just says a lot about how connected hezbollah is pretty be iranian audiology back in 1979 inspired the creation of hezbollah. it was iranians who helped build hezbollah from other existing hassan nasrallah militias here in lebanon during the lebanon civil war. it is not far-fetched at all. it is quite likely. the question is, is whether or not they will send a real force. i find that, you know, i have been wrong many times before but that seems like it would be

a very destabilizing thing. we met we did have a condo or the level of boots on the th ground in terms of their fighting for stability when we were told this would be something they were contemplating. let me ask you, noga, with getting a cease-fire. how does this contribute to that possibility or eradicate the possibility of having a cease-fire? >> i don't think we know just yet. in part, the hamas leader has been incommunicado for a few weeks and not responding to mediators for the israeli government has beene sending o very mixed messages. publicly and also behind the scenes. telling the white house that they supported efforts to try to get to a cease-fire, which would allow in negotiations for the release of hostages. and then publicly taking that back.

it is really, i would say, a chaotic situation and with the elimination of hassan nasrallah, we are kind of in uncharted grounds. this could even have two steps. in the immediate future, for example, bring a kind of, you know, silence in the field. once he is replaced with another leader, actually there could be another escalation. i think we will just have to hold tight and wait to see how this very dramatic event develops. >> noga tarnopolsky, thank you so much. matt bradley and erin mclaughlin as well, both of soy guys too. coming up, we will talk politics and new polls and the youth vote and a noteworthy enthusiasm gap. we are voback in 90 seconds. in . . but do you have to wedge it into everything? what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle.

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entering their term. as we just said, a lot of them are real bad people. real rough people. they are also taking a lot of jobs from americans. numa in the four years that donald trump was president, he did nothing to fix our broken immigration system. >> meanwhile tim walz and j.d. vance on the campaign trail today as they gear up for the sole vice presidential debate on tuesday. we have got several porters in place covering all of the angles of this race. we will go first to gary grumbach, whose in delaware. i know we are just days away. i think three if you count them right from the vice presidential debate on tuesday. the harris campaign is laying it on strong for donald trump to debate again too. what do they have up their sleeve? >> reporter: j.d. vance and tim walz are set for their tuesday night vice presidential debate. kamala harris is looking to get back out there to see if she

can get back out there and debate donald trump one more time before the election even as voters are already boating in many stakes around the country. donald trump thinks he won the first debate so i debate again but he also says that he might change his mind if his mood changes. as a relates to debate. we will see what happens there. so much of campaigning with 37 days left before election day is reaching voters where they are. many, that means on their couches watching college football. here is a new harris campaign ad that will airing during the georgia/alabama game later today. >> winners never back down from a challenge printed champions know it is anytime, anyplace. losers may whine and take the ball home. >> trump refusing to debate a second time. >> he did terrible in the last debate. >> he is triggered by kamala harris. >> donald, i do hope you will reconsider to meet me on the debate stage. if you have got something to say, say it to my face.

i am kamala harris and i approve this message. >> reporter: after the vp debate on tuesday night the vice president and tim walz will team up for a bus tour around central pennsylvania. this is not going to be in some of the democratic strongholds like state college or harrisburg. some of the more republican areas of the state. donald trump country, if you will. it is along mifflin county. that area is a place where donald trump won 80% of the vote in 2020. >> 10 bucks that donald trump is most angry about the ad, the easy part miss that we will all see over and over again. that is just my two cents there. thank you so much for that. right now, donald trump is holding a campaign rally. we will go to jake traylor who is there for us. jake, welcome. what is he expected to speak on today and then what is next?

were to see head after the rally? >> reporter: on the stage behind me flanking the lectern are different photos of undocumented immigrants, who have committed violent crimes in this country. speaking moments ago were different family lives of victims who had been hurt or murdered. that is exactly what the former president intends to talk about today. he intends to focus on the border and undocumented immigrants in the country. the trump campaign really views the border and immigration as a winning issue for them. in a recent nbc news poll that asked who they prefer to handle the border, trump won out by 21 points. that is notable, back in january it was asked what was trump versus biden. trump set that one. it was a winning issue for the former present. that is notable. he has been critical of her

visit yesterday to the southern border. take a listen to him speaking about that. >> unlike kamala harris, who always complains, i keep saying, why don't you do -- why didn't she did not do it four years ago i say that. she is on the border today. what a day for the border. >> reporter: from here the former present is heading to tuscaloosa, alabama, or the university of alabama georgia football game. an assignment i wish i had. donald trump is trailing with gen z, significantly. this is an effort by the campaign to have trump interact with gen z people, gen z voters on a college game to experience. >> jake traylor, thank you for all that that along with axial

political reporter steph kite. good to see you both. alexi, we're seeing harris narrowly leading in the battleground states while the race is very tight. does the fact that she is ahead and all of them with pennsylvania and nevada both outside the margin of error? does it indicate good things about the directory, at least? >> reporter: thanks for having me on and i'm happy to be on with you. obviously, the polls are getting tighter and showing a closer race. i think they're showing us a lot more like democrats are on offense, not on defense necessarily. it is not just harris who is performing well against trump . if you look at the important senate races in the battleground states, you will see candidates performing -- over performing their republican challengers. what we are seeing is not just across the board the race is tightening but harris is closing the gap. down ballot democrats are closing the gap and also, of course, donald trump is trying to keep his lead on the economy but harris is close that gap too

>> ahead of the remarks at the border yesterday, you have the scoop that she would announce stricter asylum policies. it is an effort to fight back against claims that she and biden have been too lenient on the border and that she risk alienating voters on the left? >> reporter: that is a risk but we have seen both harris and president biden move in the direction of embracing this tougher image on the border. we have seen it over and over again. not only that are rolling out but also the language that they use on the campaign trail. the way they talk about immigration. we have seen harris, in particular, really embrace her past as a prosecutor. say she will prosecute people who illegally parked of the border. that is her promise to crackdown on illegal immigration coming across the u.s./mexico border. it is remarkable to see how far she has come especially when you go back and you watch the clips from 2019 when she was in

favor of decriminalizing [ speaking in a global language ]illegal border crossings. when she was much more sympathetic to focusing on getting people pathways to citizenship. it is very clear they see this as a vulnerability and something they need to respond to. you saw this especially yesterday in hearing the way she was talking about the border issue and even the decision to go and visit it herself. >> jake was just referencing the gen z vote. young voters can play a big role here. you have 42 million gen z ears, who will be eligible to vote. that includes 8 million and the seven critical battleground states. there's new poll of 18 to 29- year-olds. it found that harris was a 31 point edge over tron. that is not entirely surprising but what is notable, 74% of young democrats say they will definitely vote compare that to a 60% of young republicans. what do you make of the enthusiasm gap ?

>> reporter: it is fascinating when it changed from when joe biden was running for re- election. i don't think democrats would have the influencers flocking for biden in the way they are for harris. i don't think we would see this big of an enthusiasm gap without hairs. she has given new life to the democratic party and to their base of voters, they need to turn out and shut up even if it is their first time voting. you know what is interesting, is that democratic operatives and some pollsters say they think the youth vote has been under polled. they think that there is some sort of constituency of young voters who are new harris voters that are not being captured. basically suggesting she could be doing even better against trump nationally that we are seeing now. >> democrats are pushing for greater voting access on college campuses. what affects about have especially in swing states? >> reporter: when you look at the polls or every single polled in the battleground

state being within the margin of error, you realize that turning out any particular favorable group of voters could make or break the entire election but it makes sense for democrats to be focused on college campuses, turning groups of voters who have not had a very high voting turnout compared to other age groups. those are the kinds of voters that could make or break the election come november one thing that is interesting with my conversation with sources watching the polls is that it is so close. you are hearing from both sides who are able to take the data and spin it into what they view as a positive way forward. even i have been hearing from even though harris has had a little bit of an edge over ey c polling this year to polling in 2016. they see improvement there republicans still see a path forward, even as trump is down a couple points in it most of

these polls. you hear something coming at you, alexi. trump is trying to raise money anyway he can. he is selling a commemorative coin costing $100. his wife knaus selling a pendant costing $600. and then there are the watches. most cost $500 but there is a gold model. back cost $100,000. where is this money even going? does a go to the campaign or trump personally? >> reporter: i think we all know where any money that gets into trump's orbit ultimately ends up, which is benefiting himself in some way. obviously he still has legal fees to pay off and will face more legal challenges starting in the new year, no matter what happens in the election. it is another classic trump graft. nothing screams i am broke been selling and hocking sneakers, bibles, gold watches,

coins, getting back into bit coin and nft. i feel like he is trying to set himself up for a postelection loss and open up some business avenues that way. >> it was suggested hsn, home shopping network. stef, let mac a look at the roles between governor tim walz and center j.d. vance. they are similar to the presidential debates that we saw instead of microphones completely muted, what is not the candidates turn to speak, the real estate, quote, cbs news reserves the right to turn off candidates microphones. if you look at walz and vance's communication styles, what you expect to happen if mic stays turned on? >> it will be fascinating to see how this plays out especially comparing the two very different human experiences we have seen between the two vp picks.

fans had a difficult beginning after trump maintained his vp choice. we have heard reporting that republicans were not sure he was the right choice. meanwhile walz has been received with a lot of fanfare, a lot of support. one thing that we will definitely hear back from the two of them is talking about that they have military experience. we can expect barbs there. what i'm here about whether walz is likable, a chill personality. it still works in a debate format. or whether we see senator vance , you know, come forward a little more aggressively and if that works to his favor. >> last you, alexi, what are you expecting on tuesday night at the debate? >> reporter: obviously, governor walz does not have to play cleanup as much as vance will have to that is certainly going to help him. something fascinating is that walz has been overburdened with male voters compared to j.d. vance. we know how he is try to paint this picture of himself as some masculine candid alongside trump.

we will be very curious to see whether he almost tries to bully walz on the stage or take up more space than him to be intimidating or masculine in his view. i guess we will see. alexi and stef, good to see you both. i like this combination. for information about a phone call between biden and harris about the killing of the leader of hezbollah . but torque gets you going. ♪ ♪ [ engine revving ] oh now we're torquin'! the dodge hornet r/t. the totally torqued-out crossover.

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to receive an update on the situation in the middle east. on the call they also reviewed the status of the current u.s. military posture in that region to see if any changes needed to be made. they also discussed the ongoing diplomatic efforts with allies and partners of the u.s. to de- escalate tensions in the region. this is coming after we saw a very forceful statement from president biden in the wake of this news about the death of hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah. he said that he and hezbollah were, quote, responsible for the killing of hundreds of american over a four decade reign of terror. his death from israeli airstrike is a measure of justice for his many victims, including thousands of americans , israelis and lebanese civilians. the vice president also reacting in a statement, echoing much of what we heard from president biden. she also reiterated her support for israel's right to defend itself against i running back groups, like hezbollah.

she added, quote, president biden and i do not want to see conflict in the middle east escalate to a broader regional war. you been working on a diplomatic solution along the israel/lebanon border people can return home on both sides of the border diplomacy remains the best path forward to protect civilians and achieve lasting stability in the region. that stability is what has been a major concern for the biden administration for months now and even more so in the aftermath of this news, especially as we see these strikes by israel continue into lebanon. exactly what the biden administration had been trying to avoid. now we are starting to see the biden administration prays for what could become next. we saw this afternoon the state department issued a travel advisory for lebanon offering assistance to any u.s. citizens who want to leave the country. the president remaining hopeful that a diplomatic solution can

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4000 national guard numbers have been deployed and rescue hundred 49 people in tennessee. officials upset about my to coordinate missing persons reports in areas with severe flooding. aliens remain without power across the southeast and today, they called the devastation overwhelming and pledging federal aid to several states. joining me now from clearwater, florida, is marissa. what is it like there? what is the situation where you are? >> reporter: i will point just one thing out but you may be wondering why inside a carpet we are trying to get access to the barrier islands. if you know anything about the geography of this area this is the tampa bay region, if you will. pinellas county is a peninsula that is west of tampa. on the side of it, the gulf of mexico, the string of islands. this chain of islands. they are cut off from the rest of the peninsula. there is no way onto these islands. we are trying to get permission to go with the local sheriff's

office. it is a dire situation on these islands still. we are talking about a situation where this has been several days. people trying to make the best of the situation and cleaning the debris from flooded homes. we have had a chance to go and tour with rescuers in hillsborough county. this is the same county that tampa is in a. and there is a lot of flooded homes but the water has receded in those areas. i keep talking about the barrier islands because these islands are still in dire straits. i just did an interview with a gentleman who cannot get reunited with his wife because his wife is still on the islands. he has all of his medication. he is diabetic and a cancer survivor. all the medication he needs to survive is on the islands with his wife but his wife cannot leave because she is at home with their dogs and cats. you have all kinds of situations just like that. we were at a red cross shelter nearby and people were telling us the stories of how long it took them to get off the islands. they had to find a shuttle. some of them had to hitch a

ride with someone else. the people who still are on these islands and several have said it is because of dogs and cats they did not feel like they could be they do not have drinking water. this is a real mess as people still do not have a way to get clean drinking water. unfortunately, we do know that our search and rescue dogs that are going through these islands. i know this because the people who just evacuated and got into shelters told me themselves. >> this sounds terrible. just to reiterate this is the tampa bay barrier islands that you're talking about? >> reporter: yeah. it gets confusing for people who are not from the area. there is tampa, which everyone knows. st. petersburg is on a peninsula just west of that. in ellis county is the peninsula. if you look at the map to the west. there is a string of islands. we are talking about whether it is treasure island. we're talking about madeira

beach. there is some devastation. the only way we are getting images. my inbox and messages have been filled with people saying, how come you guys are out here? i don't think they realize we are not allowed to the islands. we are trying our best to get on there. we are trying. the only images that we are getting are from the people who are on the island sending them to us or from authorities who are putting them on x and social media. they still have sewer water through the streets, according to them. they have a mission. they are still trying to get a sense of who is in there. unfortunately, in what state. we met marissa parr, it is a dire situation. thank you for the report. for that shift of the latino vote to the far right. my next guest has a lot of ideas on what is causing it. it. without an audience. ♪♪ [silence]

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today vice president harris and minnesota governor tim walz announcing a second bus tour through pennsylvania through the vice president of debate. the announcement comes after harris discussed her immigration policy last night in douglas, arizona. >> those who cross our borders unlawfully will be apprehended and removed and barred from re- entering for five years. we will pursue more severe criminal charges against a repeat of violators. and if

someone does not make an asylum request at a legal point of entry and instead it crosses our border unlawfully, they will be barred from receiving asylum. >> the vice president into influence likely voters who now favor donald trump on immigration. immigration could be a deciding factor with the key demographic of latino voters. although she is still beating trump, harris has not gained much ground overall within the latino community as compared to the support resident biden had before dropping out of the race joining me with more on this, msnbc contributor, rhombus and author of the new book, defectors, the rise of the latino far right and what it means for america. i cannot wait to talk about the book. before we get to that, let me ask your reaction to vice president harris last night. did she say the right things and hit the right tone to inspire some undecided voters to support her?

>> reporter: thank you for having me. i think she did what she had to do. i think it was an effective speech. she did something that is hard which is balance with the humanity and toughness and the softness. i think she did crystallize what she wanted, which is the image of someone that is tough. the image of someone who can take on the cartels. the image of someone that will pass the border bill. i did have a couple questions. the first, will that make and rose with the american electric has been exposed to donald trump's fear mongering for so long. will that part of the american electric react to that. then i was about the latino voters, for instance in arizona, they voted for joe biden in 2020 because of the way he led with comprehensive immigration reform and even humanity and dignity. particularly as a strategist to distance himself. i was cursed about those voters

. how are they reacting in a place like maricopa county, for instance? you i guess we will see. 38 days to go. you will be on it, certainly. most think of the latino community as democratic voters. or last elections since george w. bush in 2000, there has been a shift. what has happened and why might this be a continuing trend? format we can talk about this for hours. i will paint you a picture. 20 years ago when democratic strategists talk to us, the campaign outreach look a certain way. you talk to us in spanish but you talk to us around immigration. it was the latino community that was more united. the theory of change in the democratic politics was that latinos would be at the heart of the multiracial, multi- ethnic coalition for democrats. look at where we are. in 2020 z donald trump does between 8 to 10 points better

with latino voters. we are staring at these polls are donald trump is doing between 35 to 40% with latino voters even as he is promising mass deportation sprint one of the simplest reasons is the following. if you understand the latino voting block right now, it is third generation latinos that are the fastest-growing segment. that means most of us are under the age of 50. we speak english. when you think about our identity, there is a segment of latinos that feel more identified with mainstream and white america. it is when donald trump says something as, send them back, they do not identify with that. they do not to be lumped in with them, immigrants. it is very complicated. >> i wish we had our should talk about this. something i pick up from this, some latino women have told you it is affordable immigrants to assimilate into american

culture. some of those women, immigrants themselves, they people come to america with their culture but they need to support our laws and flag. interestingly, there is your story of feeling other than you got your college acceptance package. by the way, kudos on that. to what extent does the latino community self identify as a male attorney now? how does otherness play into this? you're going to have to get the book, everybody. >> reporter: i will save the majority of latinos will vote for democrats. the majority do not sense solidarity. however, let us talk about that very small but growing segment. i think there is a fear among a small but growing segment of latinos that deal more distance from their immigrant roots. there is this fear that they will always be sort of viewed by mainstream america and white america as these professional foreigners. there is studies that show the way in which immigration rises

or the caravans and migrants. there is this fear that latinos will be discriminated against. that turns into, you know, at some forms of not only this idea that anti-immigrant sentiment is contagious and talks it you have that segment that want to prove that they belong in this country. and that turns into the trump- ism and the extremism. >> you have to come back. i want to ask about the head of the proud boys and all that. come back, this is the book. thank you so much. that will do for me on this edition of "alex witt reports." after the break, i would back with a live update on the situation in lebanon and i was you again tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. 15 o more headache days a month each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. and treatment is 4 times a year. in a survey, 91% of users wish they'd started sooner.

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