welcome back to "the weekend" everybody. we're just 37 days from election day. can you believe how close we are right now? this is amazing. and we are just two days from the first and only debate between tim walz and j.d. vance. it's a chance for the voters to see the men who could serve as vice president. a role that's, you know, come into sharp focus lately as

we've saw this summer. vice president harris became the democratic party's standard bearer. not to mention, if trump wins, he'll be the oldest person to ever win the presidency. the only democrat to debate j.d. vance former ohio congressman tim ryan says tim walz needs to hold vance's feet to the fire because vance is quote able to semiarticulate some kind of beck chill underpainings of donald trump's rants. yes. as for walz he's getting help from transportation secretary pete buttigieg who's substantialing in for vance during debate prep. joining us now, massachusetts governor maura healey. welcome. >> prior to while we were in the break, this morning, i said to michael, i said you know, jd. senator vance is -- he will say the craziest, most --

ridiculous untrue things but he'll say with a straight face and i use the example of pigs flying and him ardently defending pigs flying and michael decided to throw it into his script. whether you know governor walz very well. obviously he is the former head of the democratic governors' association. what do you think people will be surprised about when they need on that debate stage on tuesday? >> look, they're going to see governor walz as who he is. i mean, tim is just an incredibly authentic guy. and he's been an incredibly wonderful governor and one of the reasons he's been so great is that he gets it. he represents everybody in his state. you know, he -- tim doesn't think of people in terms of being too liberal and too conservative. he's about bringing people together and getting things done. and that's why he's been so successful as governor. i think you are going to see that come through, you know. people kid about his big dad energy. what's really going on there is

though demonstration of empathy. right? and he gets it. and id think that's what's -- a key separator in this whole election. tim and kamala get it. they're there for americans. they're there for middle class families right? their eye is on the ball which is lowering the costs and making life easier and more affordable and protecting communities and our kids and funding things like health care and child care and education and building more housing right so we can drive costs down. in contrast, what you will see is j.d. vance just basically sucking up to donald trump. i mean, he's a poser and he's such a phony. he has very little governing experience. remember in contrast to tim who's been a five term member of congress, and a two term governor, j.d. vance has been a united states' senator for less than two years. and all he seems capable of doing these days is just articulating the same old tired playbook from donald trump.

and then saying things that are really, really awkward and really outlandish and really out of step with where i think most americans are. >> let's take a listen to the last time you had vance debating. this is him on stage with tim ryan. and is from october of 2022. >> here's exactly what happens when the media and people like tim ryan accuse me of engaginthe great placement theory. i'll tell you exactly what happens tim. what happens is that my own children, my biracial children, get attacked by scum bags online and in-person because you are so desperate for political power. that you will accuse me, the father of three beautiful biracial babies, of engaging in racism. we are sick of it. you can believe in a border without being a racist. >> the challenge it would seem to me, governor, is one you have seen the video now out on

the stump and you have them in front of a step and repeat that says deport illegals now that says stop illegal immigration at their own convention. they sat around with big posters praising deportation. they are now crystal clear on where they are on a number of these issues. it will make it harder for him to get out from under that when confronted with it in a debate but we know based on that tape he's going to try. >> he absolutely is. you are absolutely right. he's going to -- you know, he's going to try to come off as slick and he's going the say all sorts of things that are just not true and also take positions that are contrary to what he said in the past. but you know that's just who j.d. vance is. he's a phony a poser. what tim walz needs to do is just do what he does every day. show up and be himself. he's also a coach. i'm sure, you know, he's ready for game day. and, you know, he will continue to just press the case. and point out the real differences. right? i mean, walz -- and harris are

firmly in the corner of protecting women and reproductive freedom and access to abortion. and j.d. vance, remember, wants to take that away. he wants a national abortion ban. he doesn't even want abortion in the instance of rape or incest. the things that he said about women are just horrible. and i think you will see tim walz just continuing to press that and make those differences clear because you know on issues of the economy, on issues of health care, child care, access to abortion, i mean, the differences could not be more stark and you are going to see tim continue to press and press on that notwithstanding anything crazy that j.d. vance has to offer or say. >> how do you, governor, make pete butte buttigieg playing the role of j.d. vance? kind of an interesting pairing if you will when i look at it.

pete. has his own kind of style. it's not what you would think, you know, in terms of having him kind of pretend to be or play someone like a j.d. vance. so but -- i guess it will work. and what is your take on the prep in terms of -- because i'm a little -- a little bit honest a little bit nervous about this debate for tim walz simply because i know what he's up against with j.d. vance and my concern is that, you know, the slick, slimy kind of, you know, thing we just -- lisa just played where he suddenly transports himself into victim hood. i'm the father of three biracial daughters. oh my god, how could you say such a thing? at the same time you are running with a guy who would take your three biracial daughters and put them in a camp somewhere if their papers don't check out. how do you see that playing out in terms of walz's attempt to

really press the point back on someone like j.d. vance who is pretty slick at the game? >> yeah. i think you are exactly right. michael. and this is what i think you will see tim walz continue to do. he's just going to actually talk about what he's done and what they want to do. what he and kamala harris wanted to. you know, remember, tim walz is a guy who got elected in a republican district five times over and he went on to be governor and he cut taxes in minnesota and he took care of people in minnesota. he made breakfast and lunch free for kids in minnesota. he funded education. and he also protected women's access to reproductive health care. he's the first governor to take action after the overturning of roe. and i think he just needs to go back and just point out all the things that he's done and what harris and walz want to do. remember, they are the ones, kamala harris and tim walz -- actually want to help real i

know that governor walz has been working very hard at that and just need to be himself. i just go back to -- the other day, when j.d. vance is in pennsylvania. ordering a cheesesteak. and he is so out of touch with

reality and everyday americans that he's complaining they don't have swiss cheese for his cheesesteak. who does that right? he can't even go into a doughnut shop and order a doughnut. you know? it's just -- it's not right. it's not right. >> he didn't read the briefing. he didn't read the briefing. [ laughter ] he missed that one. >> that's -- he missed that one. you have go -- let tim be tim and he's going to come off as caring and authentic as he is right? and it's a lot easier to be and perform when you are just being yourself. and j.d. vance doesn't know which way is up. because he's had to cartwheel and catapult into so many different places just to have donald trump's liking. right? >> i know we have to go. but governor, really quick, yes or no, do you think this debate will push donald trump to say yes to another debate with vice president kamala harris? or no? >> no way. i don't know what goes on in

that man's mind. all i know is that the stakes could not be higher and people have to get out and vote and understand that no matter what is coming out of vance or trump's mouth. look at the facts and playbook and look at project 2025 and looking to take this country and contrast that with the vision that's about lifting people up and bringing peel together and moving our economy forward and making life better for americans, that's tim walz and kamala harris. >> all right, governor mauraheal lee. thank you for joining us. on tuesday, rachel mad doe and the team are going to lead special coverage and analysis of the vice presidential debate that starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and then the three of us, we're going to take over postdebate coverage starting at midnight. so be sure to be there with us. up next, trump goes on an unhinged social media screed. yes, again. this time with more racist lies. congressman stacey plaskett joins us next to discuss at the

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donald trump's already dark view of migrants well, it's getting even darker in the closing days of this election. yet in wisconsin he spewed racist lies about immigrants and attacked vice president harris on the heels of her trip

to the u.s./mexico border. he claims migrants are causing quote havoc in wisconsin. no evidence to support that fear mongering. joining us now congressman stacey plaskett of the u.s. virgin islands. good morning congresswoman. >> good morning. >> so good to have you at the table. do you want to go or shall i go? >> congresswoman -- would you just like to respond to donald trump? again, yesterday in wisconsin, i mean, more racist lies about immigrants in this country. he has posted some of the most vile things, consistently on his little social media site. and you know, i just don't understand how he continues to get away with it. >> well, i think what he's doing is a distraction. right? he has seen the polls. >> the function of racism is -- distraction. >> if toni morrison said it. it's got to be true. well, it's a distraction and i think it's to take our minds

off of what is actually happening in the country. the policies, what his presidency would actually look like. project 2025. and all of its grandeur is really a dictatorship of the united states and he has seen that it's penetrating in the people's minds. and so he is using this, this screed, of racist tropes, racist remarks, to get people back on track. to pull his base back. to where it is. and to have you all of us, having this discussion about race. rather than having a discussion about the things that a second donald trump presidency would bring about. >> and meanwhile, you have his vice presidential candidate -- choice, j.d. vance, attending a town hall meeting yesterday by a top -- held by a top christian nationalist leader. who promoted election denialism and portrays the current vice president as a demon.

let's listen to j.d. vance at this event with a white christian nationalist. >> if you go to some of our most distressed communities, if you go to some of the poorest neighborhoods whether it's pittsburgh or somewhere else,you see thousands -- i'm talking about across the country. maybe hundreds of thousands of people who desperately need help and the government right now is more focused on providing help to people who don't have the legal right to be here. that's a broken, broken promise from our government and we've got to fix that. >> this -- this other-ing of people and casting everyone who's here in this country, particularly if they are of color, as, you know, part of the reason our system is broken, this narrative plays over and over and over again. what -- what do you hear amongst your colleagues about when this stuff pops up, i mean, the congress has an opportunity to do something

about all of this. to address this. they had the legislation in front of them. republicans walked away because the other guy told them oh, yeah, we need this issue to run on. and yet, you have j.d. vance talking about a broken system that he and his ilk won't fix. >> well, michael steele, that's because you are thinking logically. >> okay. >> and this is -- >> it's sunday morning. i'm sorry. [ laughter ] >> this is not about logic. this is about winning at any cost. this is about maintaining power among a few individuals in this country at any cost. at -- and what is always fascinating is those individuals who vote for this against their own interest. they're willing to vote against their own interest if it means that others can be beneath them. whether it's black people, whether it's latinos, whatever it may be, so long as they feel empowered by this. and that's the whole premise

behind the great replacement theory. behind christian nationalism. and project 2025 is the amalgamation of all of the policy that's necessary to makuta take place you know -- make that take place. you know. when you listen to clay higgins on the house floor, saying he will not take down and the kind of kerfuffle that went down to get that man to take that down. kudos to steven for really standing strong but when he attempted to censure him and there's a bill now to do that. for his incredible racist remarks about haitians, steve scalise objected to it. the republicans didn't want us to move forward with that censorship and i think the most important part of clay higgins' ability was at the end. you thugs better get your mind right and get out of this country by january 20th which is a reference to the great deplacement theory. against mass deportation that trump is talking about.

as well as project 2025. talking about removing legal immigrants from this country. >> you know, you bring up, congresswoman, project 2025, and i want to pull up this piece from the "huffington post." we've talked a lot about 2025 what it's going to mean for government employees and what it is going to mean for abortion and what it's going to mean for immigration. there's stuff so deep and technical in the pages of this document that as the "huffington post" says, it's a good time to revisit what project 2025 would mean for hurricane forecasts as we watch our fellow americans in georgia, in pennsylvania, in florida, in tennessee, reel from helene. project 2025 calls for a future republican administration to break up the national oceanic and atmospheric administration, they say the agency is causing human caused climate change and that to me is just sort of not understanding what these

agencies are actually there for. and to your point, i mean you talked about it demographically right? to fear monger. this is a geographic reality for much of this we're seeing the effects of climate change in georgia even. in everyday lives. and i don't even understand how you can deny it at this point. but it's about taking resources away from the people who are

most needed so that resources can be given to individuals like themselves. i -- there's no more republican party. it is just a far right group of individuals that are working in their own interests and duping a large portion of the american people. >> you know, along those lines, as you say that it made me think about just this past week in congress, how republicans yet again did not have the votes to pass a continuing resolution to -- >> keep the government open. >> keep the government open. and democrats had to come in yet again and under a clean what is known as a clean cr, a continuing resolution for the folks at home meaning there's none of those crazy poison pills in there, it's just -- >> nothing savage. >> just going to fund it. democrats came in and did that yet again. every single member of the house of representatives is up for re-election this cycle. do you think that the chaos that has ensued from capitol hill to state houses to, you

know, white christian nationalists brunches apparently, j.d. vance likes to attend with the stage, do you think that is -- connecting to the american people in a way where they're going to send democrats a house majority next cycle? >> i'm prayerful that we're going to have a house majority and i think that my colleagues as well as myself, i have got a republican who loves trump running against me. we are letting the american people know that having them is chaos. having them is not a development of your life. this has been the most unproductive congress in a century almost. there has not been many bills that have passed and americans' lives are not getting better and you have individuals like matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene and the whole host of whack a doodles that are running the shop right now and democrats want to bring order and we want to work with those republicans that are in hiding right now. fearful of making decisions that are going to be supportive

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tracking of where latino voters are. the fact though that i'm struck by, alicia, is support is there but it's not there. it is there -- there's this gap in -- and you have talked about this in a lot of the questions in this space that you have asked our guests, is what are you doing? how are you connecting and a lot of this may be driven by younger latino voters. but still, that gap is significant. because that extra 15% that's, you know, not there, you know, 14% versus 29% between donald trump and his democratic opponent can make a difference in these battleground states. >> right, there's some surprising and some less surprising stuff in this poll. i would say that that 40% threshold if you go back to 2004 depending on which pollsters you believe is possible that former president bush had actually crossed the 40% threshold. we saw donald trump make improvements from 2016 to 2020

and he had not broken that 40% number. and it's not a surprise that latinos who were rocked by inflation turned to donald trump and now that kamala harris is the top of the ticket really turned to her. i would also caution people this is a national poll. and means a state like florida i'm not sure to the extent to which florida latinos were included in this poll, but it does change -- and this is not going to come down to latinos nationally. as well all know. it's going to come down to the latinos in arizona, and nevada, in states like wisconsin, pennsylvania, north carolina. where the margins are going to be incredibly small. and yes, we as latinos might not be a large share of the electorate but in a close rate the numbers are going to matter. the final thing i would say and have not seen the cross tabs on this because i'm nerdy enough to dive into the cross tabs once i have them. is that many of the latino men who are open to donald trump,

just latino men specifically, they are irregular voters. and so the fact that this poll is of registered voters rather than likely voters doesn't give us full insight into what that very sway wobbly group is actually thinking as we get increasingly close to election day. >> yeah, i think that's an important point to note. which is why, you know, the three of us. we do try to clarify the difference between a registered a poll of registered voters versus likely voters. the audience knows likely voters vote in primaries and primaries and jerk elections and registered voters just mean you are registered to vote. >> record new voter registration. >> that's an important piece about having these new voters. they're not accounted for in a lot of polling and that's going

to tell a different tale. >> just your thought -- the numbers -- this is a trend what we're seeing is that in current -- again, polling is indicative not predictive. but the numbers in many respects are not at the level at the same place they have been for the last two democratic -- we can even say three presidential elections where democrats did well. that to me is an indication that more work still has to be done because you can't do less than what has been done before. win. >> the good news for democrats is that the more that these voters learn about kamala harris, the more open they become to voting for her. the challenge for democrats which they have known since she ascended tot top of the ticket is they have a shorter timeline on which so introduce her. >> shorter timeline. that's right and it's a timeline that we want to -- dig into a little bit because next our good friend melissa murray joins us on set to preview her

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before this switch or were you just going to sit it out? >> i was probably going to sit it out as well. >> oh, wow. >> i agree. i was definitely sitting it out. i was not voting at all before the switch. i'm still up in the air. obviously i'm a muslim woman so it's very nerve-wracking and very scary for me. it's already hard wearing a hijab in public. when you talk about things like project '25 it's kind of scary. >> and friend of the show melissa murray joins us straight from the nail salon. such a real treat to have you with us.

who was speaking there, she is -- she is originally she was living in georgia in 2016 when she voted and she lives in north carolina now. she is a north carolina voter and the muslim woman, she -- previously lived in north carolina. lives in dc now. the sentiments are sentiments that are actually quite prevalent across that particular demogrammic and not one i think folks should dismiss. >> i mean, if you look at some of the footage, i think i was absolutely incredulous and i mean i'm a lawyer. that idea that you are not going to vote or you think that voting is ineffectual really -- had me some kind of way. and, you know, this was a sentiment that we saw from a lot of younger black women. they are not necessarily spurred by affection for donald trump. they're not trump curious in the way that some younger black men are. it's really more a question of disaffection with politics as usual. and they're concerned that they show up and then they don't get anything for it. >> also a real distinction i

thought between some issues which can feel esoteric in people's real lived lives. there's a real moment from the salon talking about holding up democracy. take a listen. >> what do you say to those people who -- >> do we have the clip or you want me to read to you what it she has. >> they're pulling up the real sound now. >> are you ready to hold up democracy and someone says i can barely hold up my rent. i find sometimes those are the voices that are hard to get to. which is you know, we say how can people not look at what donald trump has done? when it comes to democracy and just go out and vote predicated exclusively on that and them you are reminds you are like yeah, i'm trying to make rent. >> people are dealing with real issues, i can barely hold up the rent and not trying to hold up democracy. people always say black women

are holding up democracy and how do they feel about that and they rejected that notion outright. diamond is voting and enthusiastically voting for vice president kamala harris and she believe at one point said she would vote for a celery stick over donald trump because of the stakes of this election. but they identified what melissa i think rightfully called the glass cliff. that vice president harris stands on. they noted the history and they were hartened by the history that she could make but also the reality that if in fact she is elected, the stakes are going to be very high for her. and if she doesn't do -- they're going to take a harder look at her just frankly how she's been treated this entire election cycle since she became top of the ticket because she is a black woman. >> also i thought their views were really different compared to some of the older black women we talked to in blue bell, pennsylvania. these are women who are probably 40, 50 years old. they were more settled and more affluent. and i think they actually took seriously this idea that black women do hold up democracy because we talked to them

before the switch. right after the debate with joe biden and donald trump. and they were like you know, i will vote for joe biden no matter what happens if he is literally on life support. i'm going to vote for him because democracy is at stake and that was such a contrast to the younger women. >> also a great moment with kerry washington. she talked about this idea for -- for black women in particular not giving up their power. let's take a listen to the one and only kerry washington. >> what do you say to those people who are just so cynical about this current moment. >> i get it. i get it. i get the level of frustration. i really understand it. because it is true. it feels sometimes like the system is not working for us. but i think that's because a lot of us have been misguided into believing that our vote doesn't matter. so enif you decide i'm not going to vote it's not like it

doesn't affect you. politics is where you drive, what you wear, what you eat, how your kids are educated, whether you can pay for your health care, whether you can have an abortion or not. so to say i'm not going to vote, i understand the feeling and i understand the frustration. but i just don't want people to let go and give up their power. >> melissa, how did you take that part of the conversation? because at its core, that's what it's -- that's what you are talking about here. especially come -- knowing the black history and now in particular, with -- black woman on the precipice of becoming president of the country. that's the core. the power. that we all have that the system, however you define that system, really wants you not to focus on and use. >> you know, i was so glad to talk to kerry especially after that conversation in the nail salon because i was -- i felt a little bad after the

conversation in the nail salon. like you know, maybe politics as usual doesn't work. but talking to her was like a bomb because it was a reminder that democracy is not a sprint. it's a marathon. and you have to stay in it to win it constantly. and you have to re-up and know you make a couple of steps forward and you may take few steps back but you have to keep going and that's something our grandmothers talked about and something our mothers talked about and you know now we have to share that message with our daughters and granddaughters and keep this movement going. like this is a moment where you have to hang in or you are going to get cut out. >> this is -- look, i have -- we -- we really ran the gamut in the special and for us it was very important to address some of the questions and i have also think dispel some of the preconceived notions that people have about black women and black women voters. black women are not a monolith. people think they know us but we are buried in our

perspectives. black women take the role at the ballot box -- their role at the ballot box seriously. i think black women think about a number of other things at the ballot box and people and that's -- when they're voting. and i don't know if everyone else thinks that way when they go to vote. so people tonight should tune in -- and we're going to run the gamut and we've got conversations with real folks. okay? from the nail salon to the conversation blue bell, pennsylvania. which in blue bell, black women live in the suburbs people. okay? and blue bell is in montgomery county, a critical county in the 2020 election and will be critical in 2024. democrats netted 40,000 more votes from 2016 to 2020. and that's how joe biden won. and so from those conversations, but also melissa i think the conversation you had with sharonto our conversation before the democratic national convention, and obviously kerry washington, i think we painted a very full picture that people should tune in to watch. >> i want to say you were both

brilliant and thoughtful and i'm deeply jealous you got to spend so much time together but alsofeel like this would make an amazing buddy comedy i would watch and i wonder given quality time you spent with melissa murray, what sort of surprised you most about our friend. >> first of all, melissa is hilarious y'all. very shady with her podcast. upper echelon. melic is the black woman i want to be when i grow up. i want to be very clear. >> you know what i loved about this, is that symone sanders- townsend made me do some things that now i have got my mother- in-law and my husband's texts saying what is melissa doing? we need to talk about this. thanks to symone sanders- townsend. >> tiktoks. >> i just loving the ladies doing their thing. just put the focus where it needs to be. >> yes. well, can i just say tune in tonight folks? melissa murray is amazing and some of things will surprise

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georgia. because i am going to protect your vagorga. [ laughter ] >> i love -- "saturday night live" is back in the house. and they rocked it i >> do you remember when kamala rose to the top of the ticket? i feel like twitter was ablaze with saying like lorne michaels get maya rudolph on the phone. right now. >> yes. >> solidify this lock it down so to see it actually come to fruition was -- so very fun. >> i actually closed my eyes at one point, and when maya was doing her thing, and i honest to god -- she nailed the voice. absolutely. >> i spent a lot of time listening to the vice

president. she has nailed the voice. i want to play, you know, you talk about they spent some time going back to some of the things that have happened. james austin johnson is playing trump and this is the spot where he talks about missing joe biden. >> i miss joe biden. oh joe. we miss joe biden, folks. what we wouldn't give to have him stand next to me and be old. we had this in the bag. but then they did a switch aroo and they swapped out biden with kambla. >> i mean art here is -- imitating life. and i mean, obviously "snl" pokes fun at -- the things that are happening in -- from pop culture to politics and it shapes a lot of the public opinion that people have in addition to the news and in addition to what people are reading and what we're all experiencing. like donald trump is mad like -- it seems very concerned that

he is no longer running against president biden. and i think that is one of the things that showed -- shone through in this clip from "snl" last night. >> i love that fact that it gets us to a point where we can laugh after this stuff. i mean, joe walsh was with us in the a. block 8:00 a.m. and he was talking about i just -- i don't want to laugh at any of this and it's funny. and i really appreciate the sentiment but at a certain point you do need others to help you have that moment where you crack a smile. >> laugh to keep them crying. >> laugh to keep from crying and actually laughing sort of keeps you focused. it really has you pay attention a little bit more to what's being said. and i just love that -- fact that every week, they're back here to help us sort of parse through what just happened. laugh at the stupid stuff because lord knows there's a whole lot of stupid. but also hopefully see some of our own humanity in some of this again because that aspect

of it is lost. particularly when you saw trump's dystopian speech this week. you know, at this rally. talking about how dark it and all the other people coming and the country is bad and it sucks and then yeah we're going to laugh at joe. i want to play donald trump's take on his own vp is one of the moments i very much enjoyed. let's listen to trump on j.d. vance. >> at least that's what i'm told by my running mate, j.d. vance. people are saying he was a bad pick and in many ways he was. [ laughter ] >> i mean, this was going to be on that debate stage on tuesday. >> thank you for tying the two together for me. that's exactly right. it's like is that going to be his spin after the debate? i did -- because -- just to what you said michael, they have -- they have laid out a very dark vision of what america is and where america is headed and i think something that voters are desperate for is a -- a glimmer of hope and a

sense that things can be better. and i think that they have actually -- that has been a vulnerability for trump/vance. they have not even attempted to paint that picture of what a brighter better america could colk like. >> on tuesday we're going to see -- we keep saying this, a stark contrast. i'm excited because margaret -- the moderators? ooh. norah o'donnell and margaret. they do not play games okay? so i think that we're going to see very substantive debate. but also one where folks, you know, donald trump, donald trump's -- j.d. vance is not going to be able to get away with a lot of the stuff. people should make sure they tune in on tuesday. >> especially because if we have to stay up until midnight and 2:00 a.m. you have to be there with us. our morning crew i want to see you at night. there's more of "the weekend" after this. coming up at the top of the hour ali is going to speak to the u.s. secretary of energy and the u.s. trade representative under president biden ambassador katherine tie. that's coming up at 10:00 a.m.

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that does it for the weekend this sunday morning. we will see you back here next saturday at 8:00 a.m. eastern, and you have to tune into msnbc tonight for the special black women in america, the road to 2024. it's airing at 9:00 p.m. eastern and is streaming the next and peacock.

do not forget, tuesday join rachel maddow in the day for special coverage and analysis when the d -- vp debate on msnbc and your three favorite people in the entire world will be here to take over the post to be covered starting at midnight. for now, our friend, ali velshi continues our coverage. >> thank you for that. i guess i would've figured, alicia, you would handle it but i look forward to tonight and that amazing special. i've seen bits of it. one of the members of my staff was involved in a with you so we've been hearing a lot of it. simone, thank you for it. >> thank you, we are excited. jarrard is the one from your team. literally, a1, he is great. he was doing edits until 4:00 a.m. yesterday. we appreciate him. >>