iran has a lot they need to answer for to stand as if they still have power in the region but it'll be tricky because we don't want to see the united states ultimately in that direct confrontation. >> john kirby this morning said we need to see efforts to de- escalate, is it too late for that? >> benjamin netanyahu has to be willing to de-escalate and that has to be something that the united states is accepting within the definition. clearly others in europe and the middle east see israel as unnecessarily escalatory, the united states has not necessarily said that. so a ground invasion of beirut which many are advocating for, that may be the problem the united states has to wrestle with. >> thank you so much for that and that will do it for alex witt reports, we will be back next saturday and sunday 1:00 eastern.

♪♪ welcome to "primetime: weekend". i'm nicole wallace. let's get right to the week's top stories. ♪ ♪ >> you know, senator, this is an evolution and i know you have been asked about this before, about past comments you have made about donald trump. you said i have never been a never trump guy, i never liked him, terrible candidate. if you voted for him you would be an idiot, adolf hitler, a whole, obnoxious and reprehensible those of the things the left will come after you and put in ads, should you

be chosen as the vp pick. how do you deal with them now? >> the simple answer is you have to respect the american people enough to just level with them. i was wrong about donald trump. i did not think he would be a good president, he was a great president, that is one of the reasons i am working so hard to get him a second term. when you're wrong about something, you should change your mind and be honest about that fact. >> that is how the jd vance story goes, at least by jd vance's telling. sure, he suggested donald trump wasn't just bad, offensive or dangerous, he called him america's hitler, obnoxious, cultural terrace, it goes on and on but when he witnessed trump's good works as president, whatever they were, he was born again, transformed. jd vance was a changed man. so much so he is now the disgraced ex-president's running mate, the number two to the guy he called america's hitler. when you are around about something, you should change your mind and be honest with the american people, be honest, he said with a straight face.

so, it may or may not surprise you to discover that it does not appear jd vance was entirely honest about his personal journey story. as a relates to donald trump. previously, unrecorded -- recorded messages obtained by the "washington post" shows jd vance's doubts about donald trump's legacy extended as his first term was at an end. in february 2020, quote, in direct messages sent during trump's final year in office to an acquaintance over the social media platform then known as twitter, vance harshly criticized his future running mate's record of governance and said trump had not fulfilled his economic agenda, trump has just so thoroughly failed to deliver on his economic populism , excepting a

disjointed china policy, vance wrote in 2020. he also offered a prediction, joe biden, he believed , would win the 2020 election. i think trump will probably lose, he wrote in a message in june 2020, a few months before ballots were cast in an election that vance would later claim falsely and repeatedly was stolen by the democrats. in response to nbc news, jd vance spokesperson said this, quote, the trump economy was one of the strongest and most successful periods of american history, where working family saw increasing take-home pay and low prices of basic necessities, like groceries and gasoline. there is no comparison between president's record of unprecedented success and kamala harris' record of abject failure, rising prices, blah, blah, blah. of course, no mention there of vance's evaluation we shared privately that trump so thoroughly failed, to deliver on his economic plan. but, he is on the ticket anyway. he is there because mike pence isn't. because trump since his supporters to hang mike pence to

refusing to disrupt america's tradition of a peaceful transfer of power but jd vance, a man who can't quite figure out when he started to like donald trump, is there instead. we start the hour with our most favored experts in france. the professor of history, new york university is back at the table, former deputy national security advisor and president is here and democratic strategist and professor of columbia university and msnbc political analyst is here. there is something tim schneider helped me understand. that is that we have covered lies in politics as a crime for which politics is -- politicians get caught and they would recoil and try to correct them because it used to be damaging. what trump ushered in is chest out approach to lies and liars and this wink and nod to their own base that they know that we

know that they know they are lying but nobody cares because that is the graft. jd vance takes that to a new level with his hatred, articulated by jd vance, for donald trump up through the 2016 campaign and through the first term to now plopped down right on the ticket. >> yeah, absolutely. vance says a lot of qualities of politicians, first is that they are entirely transactional. they will say whatever they need to say to be where the winds of power are blowing and, by the way, you know, he and trump are quite the pair because many politicians who are not quite so transactional might not have chosen someone as a running mate after they settled the score with critics. but trump doesn't really care

because vance has, you know, money and backing and other important things trump judged more interesting to him. but, you know, vance, you know, vance, he is part of this, um, campaign to destroy the meaning of truth. i actually think he has learned a lot from donald trump and that is why he has been saying very recently, well even if haitian immigrants are actually there legally, here legally, i will actually keep saying they are here illegally because truth doesn't matter. what matters is being believed by constituents, by the base. so, you know, the way it summons up, in 2016, vance said trump was cultural heroin. now in 2024, vance himself is the dealer of that same heroine, toxic lies on any subject of racism, misogyny, inciting violence against immigrants. that is now his brand. >> what do you do about it? what is the antidote to a proud

and boastful hypocrite? >> i think an appeal to decency. i think, you know, in the vice presidential debate, someone like tim walz, who stands for truth, who stands for principles and really he can go with that because, i think even though there is the wink-wake and people think, a lot of, in fact, there are studies that came out, you know, after 2016 that some people actually liked the idea that trump was lying because he was pushing the truth, he was sticking it to the establishment but, after a while, that can grow old. so i think, pointing out the exhausting, continuing to hawk

the lies and bad faith toward americans of knowing like the haitian immigrant comment, knowing they are lying and saying, i will just keep lying and i will post about lying. that is and get a fly with anybody. we read? we need to advertise that bad faith to americans. >> yeah, i mean, basil, it seems like jd vance goes to 10 and decides that her ears don't hurt enough so we turned it up to 12. it feels like trump is him operates in this understanding it is not as loud as you think it is but that is as long as you keep it at 10. i wonder if, you know, if harris wins, if she wins resoundingly, it will turn trump is him to 12. is that a bridge too far? i feel like trump's lies from the trump view , trump's moment, vance takes it to cnn

and says, no, no, i created that to make you cover it. i wonder if vance is almost too transparent in terms of what they are doing, which is intentionally to lie to stoke racism, to stoke divides and to steal elections ? >> this is a part of learning. you can see vance go through the motions of saying, you know, donald trump has taken into one place and i will take it to the next level. it is almost like he put out to say, we will put out this guy that will be more extreme than i am because on one hand, if we lose, we know what our boundaries are. if we know in this time we win, we know how far we can take it. i do sincerely hope that kamala harris wins but the concern i have always had is that that trump imagery and energy does not go away. it is high school chemistry. where does that energy all go? there will be jd vance types

out there. including they will say things even worse than what he said, which i don't even know was possible, he will try to lead something after this election. there will be people that will do that and they will find the folks who are out there who, if donald trump did and, doesn't win, they will be upset, concerned and try to figure out where to go next. you know, just owing to the point ruth may, i keep thinking about that scene one of the main characters got his eyes popped open in clockwork orange and forced to watch something until he learns a certain common behavior. that is what the trump folks are trying to do to us right now. we will force you to watch this unto you learn and act in the ways we want you to think and behave . however he can capture in that moment he will send out to do his bidding. the rest of us, you know, will either have to appeal to folks' decency or their self interest at the moment. this is not the narrative of america we need.

>> for me, jd vance is part of the story that has guided me for 10 years. he was another offramp. he is a man who believes women should stay in violent marriages. why did it, you know, susan collins or lisa murkowski endorse him, he is describing trump as america's hitler. why wasn't he the bridge too far? he illustrates how successfully trump is a fraud.

>> he does. he illustrates, i mean, i will take another analogy from high school science, you know, the republican party over trump has become this black hole that just sucks people in, right? they have identified their voters. if you want them back, you go back to the pat buchanan populism, culture war, the 1990s, it was kind of underneath the surface. you know, trump reflected the kind of violent takeover of this political party by this authoritarian force. it is so powerful right now, in terms of its gravitational pull on republican politicians and you either just jump in, you know, all the way like jd vance has done, or, you know, if you're somebody like mitch mcconnell or lisa rakowski, you feel like it is too strong to resist. we will have a test case here if kamala harris wins. does that continue to be the force that is driving the republican party? it is interesting, another guy you try this out is ron desantis, right? it just didn't sell. he is not trump's charisma, he is not funny at all, he is just not likable. >> he does this funny thing with his finger. i was hopeful he took this anti- jik1 message on the road but nobody really responded to it. the jd vance, josh hawley, tom cotton, this is a new brand of republican politician and trump

picking vance, what he is saying, these are the people as i see as the future of this party. if i win, they are my errors and they have the inside lane for the next error -- era of the republican party. >> is that trump is american's hitler? >> so i don't think, you know, right now, trump is america's dictator, that is what the project is, that is what it has always been about. it is not like donald trump cares about you about the republic , the republican party, candidates who are bad for the republican party, so i think absent trump, it is just a bunch of anger, populism and lies without any central force like trump is. >> it is a flip-flop, it is not even the lies, the thing about trump is a continuity of racism. there is a history of the discrimination in the justice department, the exonerated five,

and murderers >> for jd vance, he said worse things about donald trump than any of the four of us ever have on this program. why is that? >> i mean, that is somebody who's own ambition was obviously the most powerful force in his life. that is the most obvious thing in the world. i think to the comment you made about calling it out, i think the second part of that message has to be, he doesn't care about you. he only cares about himself. this has to be, i think, the closing message and kamala harris has done this quite well in the debate, quite essentially, yes, it is about the lies, yes, it is about the hate and the division and it is also about the fact that jd vance only cares about himself and he tells you he cares about you but he doesn't. somebody who is willing to totally reinvent themselves, totally tell lies to get ahead will not look after you. >> i think it is hard to have conversations about our politics because broken people hurt people. that was said by jamie lee,

hurt people hurt. tim ryan came close to saying it, why do you think he is like this? he said, there has to be something in his trauma that makes him crave control. jd vance is more than a profile and more than policies that hurt people and control, he is, if he were outside of politics, you would look at him as someone so completely broken that his private message is, he disparaged donald trump more than any elected democrat i can think of right here, anyone i have ever had on the show, he called him cultural heroine, he called him america's hitler. i never had a guest in nine years calls trump america's hitler. how do you take the stage on tuesday after that? >> you are right in using the term broken. to donald trump's point it was to break you. it is not to elevate you, it is not to put a steel post in your back and make you stand up

straight, you know, chest out, you know, and give you a sense of pride, it is to fundamentally break you. and i think that has to be part of the message to the american people. like, we are not a people who are broken easily. that is his sole injunction and he has sucked people in and that is an important point because politics is not stagnant. it is movement. and it doesn't, you know, i think there are people who sometimes believe that if we just wait this out, it will go away. that is absolutely not going to happen. so there has to be something we actively do to engage every day to try to force this. try to force his individual and his movement out of politics. that is why i keep going back. if it is not appealing to decency, it is appealing to self-interest. that is the one

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it has never been a secret. he has never hidden it or try to hide it from any of us. goes all the way back, one of the most consistent things about donald trump is from before he was president and all throughout his presidency. he admires dictators and their methods and tactics, brutal as they are. so much, that in his first does my third run for president he has confirmed himself to be one, a dictator on day one for the american people if they send it back to the white house. the prospect of a trump dictatorship made even more possible by the united states supreme court's ruling on presidential immunity has prompted a bipartisan coalition led by democratic congressman jamie raskin to sign a no dictators declaration to combat any possible misuse of the power by the president. here's what congressman raskin had to say earlier this week about the ex-president's love for the most brutal leaders. >> all the dictators in desperate have something in common in 2024. donald trump. he loves them all and they love him back. he loves them because he envies their total control over their societies and they love him

because they know they can manipulate and control him. >> congressman jamie raskin is our guest. thank you so much for being here. >> you bet. it is my pleasure. >> tell us what this warning is. because it feels like 2016 donald trump didn't want any of us to think that putin helped him but 2024 donald trump won't even say he would like ukraine to win a war against russia. he feels more dictator-y, if that is aware. >> of his pictorial ambitions have been unleashed and now we are getting donald trump unplugged. obviously, i am now organizing to defeat him, not only in 26 states, but we also have to prepare the legal infrastructure of the united states to stop a president, that president, god forbid, but any president from becoming dictator. >> you say any president but after the supreme court's

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and it wasn't just there. on trump's watch, off shoring went up and manufacturing jobs went down across our country. across our economy, all told, almost 200,000 manufacturing jobs were lost during his presidency, starting before the pandemic hit. making trump one of the biggest losers ever on manufacturing. ever on [ applause ] >> joining our conversation is entrepreneur, billionaire business and mark cuban. you missed our big buildup, everything we say about you is sure to trigger, harris' opponent, donald trump but i want to hear from you what parts of this resonate to what

she still needs to move into her column ahead of november. >> well the big question is obviously the economy. you know, the people on the right, there always talk about being a marxist or communist, which is ridiculous. she really put that to bed today. she was very clear she would give businesses incentives to grow, she would help every size business from small to large and really, the future of our country, militarily, um, economically, will be driven by new technologies that she understands and that she supports. it is just such , it is so different from what donald trump is doing. i think it is a real positive for the entire business community. >> i mean, she didn't sound like a politician, mark. we were talking on how she turned to the audience and really, the country, with the question, do you know how long it took to build the empire state building? one year. she is aligning with how all of us see the things that confound us and is present, i will ask why and get to the bottom of

why it takes so long. that sounds like the kind of advice you might appreciate. >> no, i loved it, right? when she talked about the empire state building and the pentagon being billed so quickly, i had no idea. she also talked prior to that about removing red tape, about things happening faster so we can get things done. she talked about being open to new ideas so that when somebody comes in with a better way to do it, reiterate, we will review, we will do it in a better way, whatever is the best way, that is what she wants to do. she said very clearly she is not an ideologue. she doesn't care about supporting historic ideologue geez, she wants to do the right thing and help the economy, which was to help the middle class, she was to help businesses grow, which benefits the middle class, she said all the right things. >> one of the things she did very effectively, it wasn't the bulk of the speech, the burns on donald trump will brutal. she went after him for the carrier plant in indianapolis,

off shoring jobs, she said 200,000 manufacturing jobs are lost. she described him as, quote, the biggest loser ever on manufacturing. why does trump even have the perception of being good on the economy? >> i mean, he's a good salesperson, you know? he talks a good game but it doesn't mean he follows through and gets the job done. that is what she has to do. she has to start doing that and be able to communicate that with carrier as an example. look, the starkest difference between the two, donald trump wants to threaten companies. we saw him threaten john deer with a 200% terra. doesn't do anything to make john deer's business better, it makes chinese companies able to compete easier even with a 200% terra. kamala harris will allow companies to grow and build with a tax incentive make it easier to borrow money, things companies need to grow. one is a hammer and the other

is a tariff, right? how do we help businesses grow? that is such a start difference, the other huge difference between the two, donald is so impetuous, so impulsive and everything he says about policy, you can tell that the kamala harris team has bedded every single thing she said, not just what sounds good or doesn't poll good but really isn't good, strong policy. when i talk to her, you know, the key message he gave to me is that, you know, these are policies that are important to me, we want to make them work. she is not just a sales rep thinking she is saying what a customer wants to here. she is a good ceo who wants to do things right because she is responsible to my stakeholders and we need to make sure we do it the right way. you cannot have a greater difference between two candidates. >> you are such an interesting

advocate for her, the leader on the economy and i have seen you ask questions about your thoughts about donald trump but you are a conversion story. you knew him. i think at some point you supported some of what he was for and you have had an about- face. tell us your donald trump story. >> yeah, i mean, i have known him 25 years. you know, i have done had various interactions with him, guys will say we were best friends but in 2015 when he came down the escalator, 2016 early on, i was like, okay, this guy is not a traditional politician but i also presume to would start to learn and really take an interest in the job and what it takes to run the country and, you know, learning the issues in the details. and i got to the point where he realized he had no interest in learning. he had no interest in details. he had no interest in really finding out what it takes to be successful and any policy.

was kind of crazy, you know, one time i spoke negatively about him and he sends me an email, you know, he writes it out, somebody scans it and somebody sends it out as an email and it said, what happened? what i literally said to him, donald, you're not taking the time to learn the issues, you're not taking the time to learn the detail, that is a problem i can't support. that is where we diversion win our directions -- different directions and he hasn't changed. no one talking about donald trump says that was a nuanced position or he was able to show us a detailed policy on what he was talking about. it is the exact opposite. whenever donald trump says something, everyone else has to explain for him what he said, right? he can't ever, it is never like, what we will get to that. i will give you the details on why i said what i said, it is

the opposite. it is all his allies and all his supporters saying this is what he really meant. this is the opposite with vice president kamala harris. when she says what she says, everybody knows what she means. that is such a stark difference between the two. you know, that is why i have no interest in him because he has no interest in the details. >> how do you explain any of your peers in business standing with him? his policies are anti-growth, protectionist and his instability seems like the greatest liability any democracy or any economy could contemplate. >> well you know, most people don't look at the big picture, right? you got the silicon valley, the hard-core tech people like elon musk, they truly believe they can manipulate him. this happened before when people wanted to be the adult in the room and turned around and tried to get him to do what they wanted and it never worked out well for them. that is really where they are coming for. i need this guide to do what i need him to do for my business, whatever ideas they may have. there is also the middle, where it is purely just a tax issue. by taxes will be 20% versus 28%

with vice president harris for corporate taxes but what i try to say to them, almost all companies, most all large companies do international business. if you are importing anything at all, if you are adding a 10 or 20% tariff to what you import as a company, it will cost you far more between the delta between 20% from trump in 28% for harris. you will lose more money with trump. most people won't do the math. that is my job to get out and explained that. a tariff plus 20% is more expensive than a straight 20 a%. >> the line that sounded like it might resonate with the sharks, right? there is no incubator like america. just talk about that, right? >> the greatest line ever, yeah. >> talk about how important that is for people to here. >> so the reason i have done shark tank is because i have done it 15 years, we can send

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♪♪ the man that you are following into this dumpster fire of hell is placing this democracy, our american democracy in peril. people don't realize, democracy is not a constitutional right, it is an experiment. this man has single-handedly figured out how to destroy it, by using the justice department, by ignoring the three branches of government, thinking he is a dictator, the king, he can do whatever he wants and those are not my words. those are his words. >> that warning, i think that was the first time i spoke to you, that warning from michael

cohen about donald trump's intent to destroy democracy by weapon eyes and the justice department is even more chilling now than when he first came on the show. in a brand-new report in the "new york times" we brought you yesterday on this program, the ex-president's efforts to prosecute his political enemies during his first term and the aides who just fairly just my barely succeeded in stopping at, with trump bowing and running on a retribution campaign he plans in november, any sort of scrap of a guard rail to try him slow him down the first time will not be there. joining us now to describe with us is michael cohen, the host of the michael cohen show on youtube. we were so much younger and innocent there. so at the crazy thing, a year ago, two years ago when i said

that, it was before the announcement of project 2025, all before this all became a reality. now we are living with it. it is exactly what i predicted. very similar to when i was testifying before the house oversight committee. i told you, i told them, i told the whole country in the world that of donald trump lost the election in 2020 there would never be a peaceful transfer of power. i am warning the country today on your show, like i did back then, if donald trump wins in november, there will never be another election again. >> the "new york times" article out this week i think, brings to light something you have written about in both your books. that is that he saw, he threw you back in jail. not for the crimes that were scrutinized by the department of justice but because you wrote a book to talk about him. >> correct. i showed up at the request of the bureau of prisons where i was met by two individuals. two low-level bop people. they provided me with the document.

i gave you those documents so you can show the entire world this was not me making up, this was reality. they gave me this two page document that had no identification numbers onto it. it is not a legitimate document, as jamie raskin called it, it is a counterfeit document. the first paragraph was a complete and total violation of my first amendment constitutional rights, i cannot publish a book, i cannot speak on radio, i cannot do anything. not only can i not do it but friends and family need to be warned of repercussions if i do. i brought my friend as a lawyer with me because i knew something felt wrong.

i said, is there a way to tamp down the language? my book, disloyal, my first book, it is already at the printer's. if i sign this i will be in violation already. oh sure, mr. cohen, wait in the hallway and we will get back to you after we hear from our supervisors. i said, okay, great, thank you very much. we sat in the hallway, through the biggest marshals i ever saw in my entire life handcuffed and shackled, handcuffed and shackles until they put me back in a landfill for another 16 days of solitary confinement before, thank god, before the judge, who acknowledged this was retaliation by president trump and bill barr and the department of justice and right now i have recessionary to the supreme court because with the dobbs decision overturning of bivens, the bivens case needs to be decided and it needs to be discussed by the supreme court. >> you mentioned the supreme court. donald trump is his rally yesterday said you criticize the justices to decided dobbs you said they should be arrested and jailed. >> take out the supreme court and put in michael cohen and

donald trump, isn't that the same thing? anybody that criticizes donald trump, like michael cohen, should be jailed. that is what he did. that is what he wants to do. i am not sure why people are so blind? why are we whitewashing the nonsense he keeps saying again and again and again? don't take it from michael cohen, don't take it from nicole wallace, mike schmidt or anyone who has written accurately about him. take it from him. it is his words. he is warning you in advance what he intends to do. that intention is the complete and total destruction of our rule of law and our constitution. ♪ ♪ >> what is different, in terms of the guy you knew and worked for and the guy you see running for president in 2024. >> donald has become the absolute worst version of himself imaginable. i often get asked this question, people say, how, why? he was always bad, don't get me

wrong but this is a whole new low by this man. it is not that he is even thinking about this all on his own. he has surrounded himself with the worst of the worst imaginable, this steve bannon, the jason miller, the steve miller. these are the worst of the worst who have, jd vance, the whole group of them. the whole group of them. they are a whole group of racist and sexist. we know they are misogynistic, xenophobic, islam a phobic, humor phobic, transferable, anti-somatic. what else can you possibly be? one of them may not be all of them but each and every one of them has gone's ear.

the last guy in trump's ear controls the brain. that is why he acts out with these ridiculous comments and makes these absolutely stupid, stupid remarks. >> what you think will happen to you if he wins? >> i am out of here. i am already working on a foreign passport, a completely different name . i don't know how it is going to work, as far as dealing with my wife and my children. i certainly don't want them moving to where i am looking to go. i am, i don't think, you, yourself, the president of msnbc, general mark milley, liz cheney, how many people has he turned around and said that this is, that these are people i intend to go after, if i have the ability to. worst, is the supreme court's recent decision that gave him immunity, presidential immunity. not only is it, i can do whatever i want but i can't even be prosecuted. it is a get out of jail free card for the former president.

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