good evening and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead face off. in just over 48 hours, minnesota governor tim walz and

ohio senator j.d. vance will square off in the vice presidential debate. possibly the last debate of this campaign cycle. governor walz fired up democrats when he started calling republicans weird. while senator vance has led maga even further down conspiracy rabbit holes. attacking women for having pets and falsely claiming haitian migrants are eating their pets. we'll break down everything you need to know for tuesday night. plus we'll hear from two democrats locked in two of the tightest senate races in the country. senator bob casey of pennsylvania, and congressman collin alred of texas are standing by. and we have new numbers from nbc news and telemundo taking the pulse of latino voters with

37 days until the election. all that and more ahead on politics nation. let's start the show with senator bob casey. democrat of pennsylvania. currently running for reelection. senator, let's start with the debates, the vice presidential debate on tuesday and your own debate against david mccormick on thursday. what should pennsylvanians and the rest of america be looking out for in both debates? >> thanks for having me. look, this is going to be a clear contrast i think in both races, in both debates. the american people have a basic choice to make. if the american people want to continue down the path way that my opponent wants to go down which means billionaires and big corporations keep getting big tax breaks in the middle class and working folks are left out then they'll choose that side. but i think they're going to choose supporting the middle class. if they want to party that's

going to destroy the gains we made by capping the cost of insulin and lowering the cost of prescription drugs for seniors, then i think, i think that choice is going to be very clear to the american people. and i think finally, it's going to be a choice between whether we're going to protect basic rights or whether we're going to continue to under mine them as the republican party has. my opponent for example, will not support the voting rights act. the john lewis legislation. or any other legislation that's awarded voting rights. i've already voted for it. he will not support the act to guarantee that women have the same right they used to have before the decision overturning rowe v. wade and i think he will certainly not support the unions. i think it's basic questions about whether we're going to support the middle class and the most vulnerable among us or if we're going to continue to double down as republicans want

to do on those horrific tax cuts that exploded the debt by billions and billions of dollars. >> let's get to your senate race. a poll out friday has you up nine points against your republican opponent dave mccormick. and the latest poll of the presidential race has harris and trump tied. what's your sense of where things stand now in pennsylvania? >> since both races are close, i don't think i'm any where near that poll. i wish it was true. i think we're in a single digit race. a low single digit race. and i think the vice president is ahead by a point. the áf the reason i'm not ahead is because my opponent has billionaire backers and they're funding the richest super pack

in the country. that's likely to grow well beyond 50 million. we have to fight against that. we have a deadline this monday just not even, just a little more than 24 hours away. if you're with us, and you want to help us fight back against these billionaires who are trying to buy this election, i hope folks will go to bob casey.com and contribute because we're being outspent badly by these billionaires. >> last week i was in philadelphia in my capacity as head of national action network. as part of a bus tour to encourage young black people to turn out and vote. regardless of who they choose. we were making similar stops in states like wisconsin and north carolina. some polling suggests black support for the democratic ticket is lagging. slightly behind what it was in 2020. our new nbc news poll out today shows latino support for democrats has also softened.

how do you make sure these communities turn out and vote for you and vice president kamala harris in pennsylvania. >> i think this is true of every democratic candidate but i'll talk about my race. i have to earn every vote. that means making sure voters across the state who might be black voters or latino voters know my record. know my record of working the cap at the cost of insulin for seniors and wanting to grow that capsule so everybody has that cap. folks who weren't yet seniors who will also have that cap they will never have that cap on insulin if the other side wins. my opponent wants to repeal the law. i've also got to earn their vote when it comes to supporting civil rights legislation, voting rights legislation. protecting women's rights and workers rights. voters are still learning about some of these issues. they're still learning about what i've been doing in office and learning more about what

kamala harris is doing. i do think that, by the time this is over, they're going to know a lot about both of our records and by that time we will have earned their vote. we have to continue to talk about basic issues that affect their lives and not just assume people are going to show up.. we have to work to make sure we have their vote and asking people to go to bob casey.com. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about foreign policy. last weekend you met with ukrainian president zelenskyy as he toured a munitions plant in scranton. this weekend we're following the developments as israel conducts strikes in lebanon killing the leader of the terrorist group hezbollah. you sit on the senate intelligence committee. can you speak of the importance of democratic leadership on foreign affairs from people like you and vice president harris as opposed to the vision

laid out by trump and the republicans. >> well, i don't think there's any question that kamala harris is prepared to be commander in chief right now. one of the reasons she's prepared is she's been very clear when it comes to the conflict in ukraine. she has said very clearly that she's on the side of ukraine. and president zelenskyy pushing back against a murderous dictator vladimir putin who invaded a sovereign country and is trying to take it over. if the other party wins. my opponent has been very week on the question of ukraine as well. we cannot allow putin to invade ukraine then poland and then we're in a world war that we would be obligated to commit ourselves to because of nato. we have to stop him now. if you're criticizing zelenskyy

and you're criticizing his visit to my city scranton. if you're criticizing that you're in the side of putin. you're either on the side of zelenskyy and ukraine or the side of putin. >> thank you for joining us again. let's go now to texas and to democratic congressman alred running for u.s. senate against ted cruz. senator alred, let's start with hurricane helene. causing at least 66 confirmed deaths. and leaving 2.4 million households without power. forecasters are already tracking several other storm systems that could develop in the gulf of mexico next week.

your state's governor has deployed people and resources to help with recovery efforts in florida and georgia and president biden has approved a major disaster declarations for the sunshine states. are you satisfied with the government response so far and do you think the country is suitably equipped to deal with what could be a very busy hurricane season? >> thanks for having me on, al. listen, we come to expect that we're going to be experiencing more of these extreme weather events and of course it's always going to be hurricane season but the question is how strong are those storms and how many do we get. we've been hit by those in texas time and time again. that's why it's important that we plan ahead and that we make sure our infrastructure has been strengthened. that it can withstand what is coming and that when it happens that we are able to get the

power back up quickly. that's why we look at the infrastructure bill that i supported and my opponent ted cruz voted against. we have not fully funded fema and our disaster response efforts. i think we can do better on that. because we have to understand we know this is coming so we need to have leadership in the house. particularly that's been unwilling sometimes to meet that need. to understand that we know this is happening. let's make sure we plan ahead and let's make sure we help counties recover whenever it does. >> democrats said last week they are sending millions of dollars to texas and florida in an effort to help unseat republican senators in those states. ted cruz who you are running against and rick scott in florida is not the first time democrats have heard texas is in play. but the party hasn't won a senate seat there in three

decades. why to you believe this time is different? >> this is good news for us and it shows our momentum. and shows the folks are seeing around the country what we know to be true here in texas. and that's that i'm going to beat ted cruz. we've been laser focused to issues that matter to texans with now less than 40 days to go. ted cruz is also in this position because of what he's been doing and what he's not been doing. that he has not allowed us to secure our border for example. that we're experiencing extreme abortion ban here in texas that's putting women's lives in danger because of him. that he wants to cut medicare and social security that so many texans rely on and that i have a record of bringing folks together. being the most bipartisan democrat in congress. we're going to beat ted cruz here. >> according to a new telemundo poll, vice president kamala

harris is leading former president trump among registered latino voters. by just 14 points. 14 percentage points. that's the lowest margin for a democrat at this point in the past four presidential races. support for democrats has declined most significantly among latino men without college degrees. as you travel across texas campaigning, are these numbers consistent with what you are hearing from different hispanic communities? >> well we're not seeing that in texas. we know certainly in our campaign we're building abroad, and diverse coalition to make sure we can win and also represent this incredibly diverse state that we have here in texas. i think we had a recent poll that showed me up amongst latinos here in texas. latinos their story is central to the texas story. we need to make sure every texans gets to have the opportunity to live their

american dream just like i did. buy a home, to retire with dignity. we're a big diverse strength and that's something ted cruz will never understand. we have to make sure during the course of this campaign let folks know what our plans are. how we're going to invest in an economy that works for everybody. in opportunity, whether it's latino or any other texans that they will respond to that. that we'll be able to beat ted cruz here and see nationally the support that i think will be the result of the work we've done. the work we want to do. >> vice president kamala harris visited the border. and used the trip to push back against former president donald trump's criticism of the biden administration. the harris campaign hadz also

noted that she will propose tighter asylum restrictions than even president biden. what have been your thoughts on vice president harris' visit as well as her stance on immigration? >> my family is from the u.s.- mexico border from brownsville texas. very tip of texas. my grandfather was a customs officer there. that's where i spent a lot of my childhood so this is personal to me. and i've been frustrated at times with both parties about how we've not put the investment in solving this issue but also supporting the community that bare the brunt of a broken system. that's also what it is. let's also talk about how we got here because there are folks like ted cruz who have had 12 years to try and enact meaningful reform to fix our border. every time a bipartisan effort comes up which is the one that vice president harris is referencing, he takes it down.

and that is not leadership. and certainly not with texas expect. it's not enough to just point out problems. what we have to do is talk about the solutionless. that's what i think our border community is expecting. i think it's what our states and our people expect. so i agree we need to pick up the bipartisan bill that was in the senate. we also have to fix our broken immigration system to make it better for the needs of our economy. also in the longer term, address the drivers of some of that long term migration by helping stabilize some of the country's where these folks are fleeing. >> i can say that i was in texas in the last 30 days with reverend terry anderson and lily grove baptist church. there's a lot of enthusiasm on the ground for voting. we'll see, as we get closer. thank you for being with us congressman and senate candidate collin allred of texas. coming up the many versions of jd vance and the questions

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childless women cat ladies. or he claims that haitian immigrants are eating pets. but he will defend trump to the hillless. senator vance said he's happy to make up stories to help trump make the case on immigration. when confronted by outagous alleged comments from north carolina lieutenant governor mark robinson, vance says, he's given the trump endorsee the benefit of the doubt. on the campaign trail, vance has started taking questions from the press while on stage flanked by supporters. encouraging the crowds to shout and jeer at supporters they don't like. but senator vance will have no such protection on tuesday night. he won't be facing off against

the radical marxist. he will be debating walz. a family man an veteran who is willing, able to challenge vance on lies and distortions. maybe the exchange will bring out the long lost softer side of vance. the author who was worried about maga. but i won't hold my breath. either way, i got you. way, i .

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.466 million deaths. 2.4 million households remain without power. the campaign for former president trump announcing this afternoon he'll be visiting valdosta, georgia tomorrow to survey the damage. we'll continue to bring you the latest details as we get them. back to politics nation, in just over 48 hours governor walz and senator vance are set to go head to head on the only vice president debate.

joining me demmings. does walz have to go on the attack of vance. especially since they will not do fact checking on the air. >> good to be with you. yeah they talk about the cost of living. the extreme weather we've seen. but they also talk about authenticity. they talk about decency and honor and integrity. and governor walz is the real deal. he knows what it's like to actually respond to a real crisis and not one that's manufactured. like senator vance has had to

do against the city of springfield ohio. he knows what it's like to get the 3:00 a.m. call and people depending on him and to stay up all night worried about people's safety. so yeah, what the governor needs to do is talk about his real record not one that's manufactured in a classroom. not one that's fake and plastic like senator vance will propose. so yeah i think the governor needs to use every tool in his tool box. talk about his record, but also talk about the lack of record that senator vance has. >> senator vance has had a rocky roll out as donald trump's running mate. he's been forced to defend past comments including calling

childless women cat laities. ladies. we know he's going to defend president donald trump. but does he also need to show a more likable side of his personality. >> of course he needs to show a more likable side of his personality. it seems to me that vance is a more articulate side of donald trump. talk about his agenda. i think that is his strength. he never really brought donald trump anything he already had. donald trump by picking vance just doubled down on his vase. base. that has not been the case for the trump campaign up to this point. but i suspect this debate will probably be a big more substantive than the presidential debate. this one is going to be fairly interesting whether or not it moves the needle one way or the other remains to be seen.

>> with president biden out of the race. trump is now the oldest person ever to run for the white house. should vance also have to prove tuesday in tuesday's debate that he is prepared to be a president for all americans should the need arise. so far it seems to me the senator hasn't struck a very unifying tone. >> oh yeah, of course, any vice president his or her job is to make clear that they are ready right now to serve in the event something were to happen to the commander in chief. it's not kamala harris. she has made it clear that she will step up now that biden is out. vance must do the same thing. the challenge for the trump- vance ticket right now is as long as joe biden is in the race they can make biden's capacity capability an issue. but now that the riff is back

on trump because he's the oldest candidate and is making incoherent comments, vance is going to have to dead fend donald trump for his age. >> the latest telemundo polling shows vice president harris is doing better with latinos than biden did earlier this year when he was at the top of the ticket but she lags behind where democrats have been at least at this point in the past several elections. how worried should we be about this data especially in swing states with the, a significant hispanic population. >> i think we're having

freezing problems. let me ask you this charlie. why do you think trump is making end roads with some latinos. >> clearly republicans and trump are doing better with latino voters. but i think what many i think on the democratic side have mistaken over the years is the latino vote is not monolithic. you have a lot of cuban americans, dominican americans, puerto ricans. they have the they have different patterns. in west texas we saw a significant numbers of hispanics moving toward republican. i think that had to do with the fact that many of these hispanic voters are not solely focused on immigration. many are working law enforcement. many work in the oil services sector an area where

republicans tend to do better and democrats seem to be more hostile on that industry. i think there's been a problem with ignoring impacts that help hispanics and the law enforcement issue is one where republican messages has been affected. we'll see. republicans are doing better but democrats need to shore up their votes among i suspect more white voters. pick up more white voters then they can bare the outset with the hispanic. >> we have technical difficulties straightened out. val, you answered the question about latino voters and you heard what charlie had to say. what say it now? >> i think the only candidate in this race who's trying to expand the electoral and not taking anyone for granted is kamala harris. evident by the dnc investment in all 50 states. we know that she's taken nothing for granted. she's going after hispanic and latino voters. she's talking to young voters. to seniors, to women and men.

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but also of hope. but also of hope. there's a growing sense because we see the system broken.

getting crushed by student loans, inflation is ridiculous at the moment. a lot of my classmates because i said, i just got my masters so a lot of my classmates are looking for jobs. thank you. only four of us out of 20 got jobs. >> wow. >> that's just a small taste of the new msnbc special airing tonight. it's called black women in america, the road to 2024. my colleague simmon sanders townsend and msnbc melissa murray travel the country speaking with black women to get their honest take on the election and the state of our politics. joining me now janae nelson who participated in the special. good to have you on. black women have been crucial to this electoral process and electoral success of the

democratic party specifically. many democratic politicians clearly understand this. but do you think they also have a deep enough understanding of the issues that motivate black women when they cast their votes. >> that's such a great question, reverend. i think that both parties don't focus on the complexity of black women and the power of our vote and voice. i was thrilled to participate in this special because it is such an under understood segment of the electoral. and black women have carried as you noted many elections, many outcomes and have not gotten the deserved attention that we should have. and we're not a monolith. we share many common interests, many shared struggled. but we also have as much nuance as any other group and it's important to explore that especially when you think about all the critical issues on the ballot in this election from

racial equity to reproductive rights. to student loan debt, to the economy, all of those are issues that impact black women in very specific and particular ways. >> now take a listen to what one young black woman voter from north carolina told simone and melissa in this take. take a listen. >> the first time i was able to vote was for hillary clinton. that was my first and last time. because i felt like, okay, i felt hope that hillary would win. i felt excitement from the community around me. i just had so much hope. and then look what happened and so now i'm like, did my vote really matter. i don't know. >> what's your message to young black women voters who are grappling with the sense of pessimism about whether their vote has an impact. >> your vote absolutely has an impact. there are a lot of structural reasons why the popular vote does not always win the day.

but absolutely it sends a message to your leaders when you vote that you can hold them accountable. that your vote is important to keeping them in office and holding them to account and holding them to be responsive to the needs of you and your community. i think it's also incredibly important for people to recognize that the presidential race is not the only race on the ballot. you will be voting for governors, or city council members. or sheriffs or coroners or tax assessors that can affect your every day life. even if your presidential pick did not actually win due to the electoral college or other structural barriers, you still have an impact on many local and state elections that can effect your daily life. i also think if we turn out in sufficient numbers. if we overwhelm the ballot then i am confident that black women will continue to have an

important role in determining the outcome of this election. >> now a major concern for black women is voting rights. according to democracy docket, there are already over 200 legal cases regarding voting in the 2024 election cycle. you can expect a lot of postelection litigation as well. we know that efforts to the vote have impacted black americans. how confident are you that even when black women do show up to the ballot box their votes will be counted and voices will be heard. >> i got to tell you i'm pretty confident because we're already in litigation to protect the right to vote. we have the legal defense fund have been fighting for voting rights and ensuring that the barriers erected to turn people away from the polls to make it more difficult to vote are challenged and that we are out

there in full force with poll monitors with litigation ready to go if it isn't in progress to protect the right to vote. that should not be a reason for people not to come out and cast a ballot. we must turn out in the largest numbers possible to overwhelm the ballot. to make it too big to rig. to ensure that our voices are heard and that we get to determine our future. >> now it's not just the white house as you said. but congress is at stake as well. the 2024 election could see two black women elected to the senate in the same cycle for the first time in american history. with lisa blunt rochester of delaware and angela brooks of maryland. can you talk about what's at stake this election and how those states might mobilize black women voters. >> yeah, well we know that in the 2022 elections where we had significant turn out among young people.

among people of color we saw the complexion of congress change dramatically. there are 30 black women who are representatives in congress now. and as you noted, there's the possibility to elect more. we have the most diverse congress we've ever had in terms of age, in terms of religious background. in terms of gender identity. every possible diversity measure you can think of is being represented in our congress. which means we can reflect more of the american people. it looks more like the electoral that these individuals will represent. and we can continue to do that if we show up at the polls again in november. where we'll be electing a third of the senate. where we'll be electing many governors across the country. it is so important that we recognize that it's not just the presidential election, which is critically important. absolutely. i don't want to under estimate that. but there's so many other

important offices on the ballot and congress is the body that passes legislation. congress can actually do much more in many ways to correct some of the inequities that we see than the president in that person's sole executive power. so we need to understand how all of it works and of course there's the possibility of there being openings on the supreme court and we want to make sure that we have the right senator to confirm the right justices on the supreme court if that opportunity arises. >> in yesterday's show on this show we talked about marsalis williams who was executed this week by the state of missouri, despite questions about his innocence and over objections from the family of his alleged victim. during trump's final months in office, he resumed federal executions after a 17 year hiatus and his administration saw the most federal executions

in over a century. project 2025 also calls on the next republican president to execute all remaining inmates on federal death row. what about effect will expanding that barbaric practice will have that on american. >> it's a form of cruel and unusual punishment. the legal defense fund are the only organization to secure a moratorium of the death penalty in 1973 for five years saving hundreds of lives. and we continue to push against capital punishment for the very reasons you outlined. not only do we think it is a barbaric practice that has no place in modern society. you are often finding innocent people caught in the cross hairs of an under funded

system. an inherently racist system where people of color are disproportionately put to death by the state. if you look at the number of people on death row, more than half of them are people of color. >> that is absolutely correct. we were outlining it last night. i'm glad not only outline it but i know the working with you at my capacity at action network no one is more, more committed to fighting this than the legal defense fund under your leadership. thank you janai nelson president of the naacp legal defense and educational fund. black women in america, the road to 2024 airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. and we're keeping an eye on the aftermath of helene. the death toll from the storm that made landfall in florida as a category four hurricane now stands at 89.

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on tuesday morning i'll be journeying to florida for the funeral services and burial of my father al sharpton sr. though he left when we were very young when i was 10 years old and my mother raised us. he and i had shared and were able to bring together our lives for the last several decades and his passing is something i feel deeply. i'll be there to say goodbye to my father. and thank him for the time that we spent together. also on tuesday i will be wishing jimmy carter, the former president, a great president and former president and humanitarian he will be 100

years old. but before all of that tomorrow night, there'll be the national action network triumph awards and we'll be honoring gladys knight and legendary trumper marsalis who also is a humanitarian and awarding robert deniro the oscar winner and activist. and they will also celebrate my birthday three days before my birthday. i'll be 70 years old on thursday. and i got a surprise take that they're going to play tomorrow night but i'm going to let you see it now as a surprise leading up to the triumph awards. >> happy 70th birthday rev. happy birthday. i celebrate the day you were born. you have been over all of your years, such an extraordinary leader. you are a voice of truth, a voice of conscious, a voice of

practicality around what we address and what we must do. and i thank you very much for your friendship. happy happy birthday rev. >> couldn't get much better than that. we'll be right back. that totally clicks. oh, did you think i was talking about romance? i was talking about trying on pair eyewear at america's best! pair eyewear allows you to customize your look according to your vibe using magnetic top frames in your choice of style and color. pick a base frame, a top frame, and click. get an eye exam when you buy the pair eyewear bundle, starting at $129.95, only at america's best. aw, they're so cute.

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c1 that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. before that, catch me tomorrow, monday morning oin