that does it for me today. we have a great show in the works for tomorrow. ahead of of course tuesday's vice presidential debate we've been talking about. i'm going to speak with the last person to debate j.d. vance. tim ryan is going to join me. stay with us because there's much more to come. we start this hour with some breaking news. the death toll from hurricane helene has now risen to 89. 30 of those deaths were in north carolina which has seen a

record 30-inches of rainfall. more than 32,000 people are still without power at this hour. retired u.s. army lieutenant general russell honore is joining us. let me get your assessment as someone who knows what an operation like this looks like. the damage you're sering right now. what do you make of the damage we're seeing across the south? >> well i think you clarified that it was a storm that attacked florida, and made its way through georgia, tennessee to new mexico. it dropped an awful lot of water. not measured in inches but foot. it overmatched the terrain and when you drop water in those mountains, ayman as we all know it started going to the

valleys. the community had not seen or experienced that and overtime, development happened in the deeper part of those valleys. and what we have seen is and with condolences to all those who have lost their lives that flash flooding that has occurred. the good news, there's a lot of people working to get to them. >> let's talk about the operations right now it's something you also know very well well. president biden has said that he plans to travel to the impacted communities this week. he has also approved major disaster declarations for florida and north carolina. in your experience, are visits like this from a sitting or former president helpful or do they hinder? >> yeah they're helpful.

they reassure the governors and senators and ensure that will the government is going to help with the recovery. but on the other hand, recovery is a living hell. we still have people recovering from storms four or five years ago because of issues we're having with insurances. insurance and resolution with fema over an amount where people can move back and be home. this is no criticism of fema. fema operates with guidance from congress. that has to be relooked because there's some ways to automate that recommended that they look at by preregistering every home in america. so we no the data on it. because gathering that data in south carolina without electricity is going to be hard

to do. but those visits are helpful with the president's promise to help. >> on times like this, politics aside. everybody has to pull together. thank you for your time. greatly appreciated. >> let my say this, the national guard is doing great work. they have 11 states supporting them with helicopters and troops. and they have the entire department of defense standing by if they need more help at fort bragg, fort liberty and fort campbell. all thoelz groups are ready to come help if the national guard needs help. >> i'm sure they're going to need it with a look at what it looks like right now. thank you for your time. president trump is trying to convince people that he

respects women. >> i have great respect, admiration and i cherish women. >> reporter: bizarre? yes. creepy, kind of. but many women actually bought it. in fact, he got the majority of votes from some groups of women including middle-aged white women. now facing an uphill battle he's leaning into that old rhetoric again but this time it's turbo charged. >> you will no longer be pay ban donned, lonely or scared. you will no longer be in danger. you're not going to be in danger any longer. you will no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today. you will be protected and i will be your protecter. women will be happy, healthy, confident, and free. >> now he's ramped up his

unhinged paternalistic rhetoric. not only at his rallies but his failed social media too. this man the self-proclaimed protecter of women has been accused of sexual harassment by 26 women. a man found liable for assault which a judge later called rape. when you hear that track record, and then you hear this. >> i am your protecter. i want to be your protecter as president. i have to be your protecter. i hope you don't make too much of it. i hope the fake news doesn't go, oh he wants to be their protector. well i am. >> the comments don't just ring hollow they're actually quite

sinister. one commenter made the blunt observation. he sounds like a domestic abuser. he presents himself as the solution to all of their problems that he images they are having in their lives. to him they're quote anxiety is being misdirected into the belief they want abortion to be legal but instead he insists their real problem are loneliness and abandonment. something trump can fix if they give themselves over to him. and he can't even fathom that women wouldn't like him. >> i always thought women liked me. i never thought i had a problem. but the fake news keeps saying women don't like me. i don't believe it. >> it's quite clear he doesn't believe it. that kind of overconfidence, sexist head in the sand approach has helped his come

pain. he has been on the dude. all of them many and many of them young men and fueled by a narrow old view of masculinity. no big surprise here. seven of the nine podcasts have audiences that are overwhelmingly entirely men. trump appears to be drawing from even darker misogynistic.

despite that, just like in 2016, some women are still trending toward voting for trump. even though harris has a slight edge over trump within women voters. harris' lead on trump with women voters has dropped by nine points in the last month ape loan. to help us make sense of all of this is liz plank and molly fast. she's also host of the fost podcast. >> do you feel protected by donald trump, molly. >> what kind of question is that. >> i'm excited to not have anxiety. there's a lot of great promises. healthy, confident. there's another comment where he said they're not going to worry about abortion again. >> yes. >> and i think they're seeing the polling that women aren't having it.

what trump learned is he could get these low propensity voters out if he had a radical enough message. i think he never gotten over that. so they're going full white dude. right. and full masculine guy. and they're just totally doubling down on that and now he's seeing it's turning women off. so instead of being normal, he's decided he's going to say all these things about what he's going to do for women and somehow because he's such a brilliant politician, it will make women believe it. >> you bring up a really good point about the attitudes here. and liz i want to share this with you. because of his long record of misogyny. he said he's going to protect women. i'm not trying to paint a broader brush here or broader

picture if you will. but, you know there are people who have these views in this country and that message will resinate with them when a race is so close he just has to pick up a few thousand voters here and there. >> absolutely. white women have been for the patriarchy. if i had to choose become alone alone with a bear or donald trump, i would choose the bear. i'm sure there's a lot of women that feel the same thing. at least if the bear attacks me, he will not tell me that it was my fault, or i was too ugly to attack. because that's what trump has blamed women for. the idea that donald trump would be a protecter to women is like a fox saying that he'll like, make sure that the hen

house you know stays unharmed. but the fox in this case has already wrecked havoc on the hen house. and blamed the chickens for it. and the irony of ironies that i think is really important to point out. is women if, if there weren't men like donald trump in the world, women actually wouldn't require protection. right. so he's creating this role of protecter for himself. but he's the cause of a lot of harm and need for women's protection. right. in today's society. and so, it's you know just another case of him causing the problem. and then framing himself really as the solution to that problem. >> such a good point from liz there about the rhetoric we're hearing from trump. there's something to be said here. in some ways perhaps in a twisted way he's not just speaking to women he's actually speaking to a specific type of man. there's a man that is going to see that and say hey i understand what donald trump is saying and i share his world view.

because what's implying is where the woman's role in society is. the way he talks about women in this kind of paternalistic way. he's not going on women owned media outlets or women focused podcasts to deliver this message he's going on these very misogynistic, very bravado all type of podcast to discuss it. >> yeah, i think women are the afterthought for trump. he's seen the polling, but he feels if you just get a few, you cut the margin you can get through. look, he should be worried about women voters. the fact there are women voters who still want to vote for him considering that he did brag about ending rowe v. wade. and we see powerful shifts toward voting over reproductive rights when it comes. it just seems, i think he's just trying to pick up those

voters in the margins. >> liz, your thoughts. they're making a connection between trump, vance and andrew tate and when it comes to their rhetoric. how does this fit into trump's twisted world view on women? >> yeah, thank you for connecting those two issues. so often we talk about women in one block and we talk about masculinity maybe later. these issues are really connected, right. there's a lot of men who are suffering. there are a lot of men who feel alone, lost, disaffected in this country. young men are more likely to be living with their parents than women are. young men are more likely to take their lives than women are. there's a real problem. to molly's point i do think that women are an afterthought for trump. i think that men are an afterthought sometimes for democrats. i think democrats are not the

reaching out to men who are shifting toward the right. trump is painting himself as a protecter but the democrats have to have a message. there's a huge opportunity for democrats to own this message. and to speak to men and boys the way the right is doing to the nose. they're pouring money into this. >> how do you counter if you're the democrats because we're starting to see some ads about it. there's an ad i believe funded by george conway's pack. we'll watch it and then we'll talk about it. >> in 2005, i went to interview donald trump at mar-a-la tpw- rbgs o. at one point melania went upstairs to change her clothes for the next photo shoot. at one point trump says i want to show you this beautiful

picture, in this beautiful room. he started pushing at me. he had his hands here against my shoulders. i felt sick inside. >> how effective are these ads. and should we be seeing more of them. >> yeah, i mean george conway. these are these audience of one ads. they are meant to make trump crazy. i mean i think this one is also to speak to trump's past. all of his accusers. but i think they are working. i do think you know democrats i just want to get to this idea of masculinity for one second. i do think that democrats have been trying to offer an alternative vision to this very sort of, destructive masculinity that we're seeing on the right being advertised. and an example of that is walz. right. tim walz has been, he was in a michigan football game. he's talking to young men. he's trying to make the casement and also doug.

right. i mean, the second gentleman is trying to make a case for supporting your wife and how you can be a masculine guy. so i do think it is certainly not as far along as the republicans and their embrace of masculinity. >> donald trump is someone who's been on the scene in american political life for close to nine years since 2015, 2016. we feel at least and i don't know if it's just us, we know his track record with women. we know what he's been accused of. we know what he's been convicted of, we know the accusations and the misogyny. is this still a message that resinates nine years of being on the scene. not just reducing into political talking point. people who know about it are either ignoring it and saying i'm going to vote for trump. i'm okay for with his behavior and i'm going to accept him for

who he is. or are there still people, this is not a guy you would leave in your room with your daughter, your wife or your mother. let alone be the president of the united states. >> yes, i think a lot of fathers would also choose the bear if it was about their daughter and donald trump being alone in the forest. i think it's still important to message it. i totally agree. it's egregious and this is now different from 2016 because he has been found liable for rape. it's a different scenario. at the same time i do think that as much as tim walz and doug are definitely, cool dudes. i don't know if they're appealing to the kind of men who are in the manesphere and are consuming andrew tate kind of content. i think the kind of message that will resinate with men is maybe the importance of protecting women from men like donald trump. or oáefpb even a lot of the

messages we see works is talking about trump's lack of discipline. his lack of masculinity. you know in a certain center. masculine virtues traditionally. it's a yes and. we have to continue this message of telling the truth about donald trump's past and present. and also i think the a little bit more savvy and a little bit more bold with the way we're not just reaching men sort of as a sub text but overtly. >> liz, molly stick around. we're going to discuss how pregnancy is now a crime depending on where you live in america. disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective

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in march of last year then 22-year-old amari march rushed to the bathroom in the middle of the night. she remembers screaming and panicking and remembering the restroom was full of blood.

march was charged with homicide by child abuse. she spent three months behind bars followed by three months of house arrest. and a new report out this week shows us that marsh's case is far from an outliar. in the first year after rowe fell the advocacy group advocate justice, 20 people faced charges. the charges range from alleged substance use during pregnancy to attempting to get an abortion or even researching it. prosecutors and police even argued that pregnant people's failure to get prenatal care was even a crime. and get this, they don't need

proof that harm was done to a fetus. but despite all ofl this, of this. trump says you don't have to worry about this after all, if he becomes president women won't even be thinking about abortion. pregnancy a crime now in some very vague circumstances. what do you think of where we are generally as a country when you hear about these cases of women put in prison because they have had miscarriages. >> yeah, i mean it's this is america right. where a man who's a felon can run for president but a woman can go to jail for googling the word abortion. in 2016 donald trump was asked if abortion is murder, should a woman be punished. he said yeah there should be a

form of punishment. there was such a backlash to that response. you weren't supposed to say that there's a punishment for the woman. you're supposed to say we'll support her and we'll help her and we'll heal her. but for him to say that that was saying the quiet part out loud. we have seen the consequences. if you say something is murder, something happens to murders in our society. there are real consequences. it makes this mystical language around abortion prerowe that republicans could get away with like we love life. and not filling in the details of what this means. we now know this is the reality of these bans. that's what has changed the opinion of abortion. that's why postrowe we see such a support for abortion and people not wanting it to be

legislated by the government. it's horrifying but not surprising. >> there is now a link between anti abortion laws and the prosecution of women in this country. so even if it was not done by design, even if it was something trump's blurted out on a campaign trail where he said women should be punished. that has come to fruition by design. >> yeah, and the two main states where you're seeing this are alabama and oklahoma. right. these are the states where women are being held responsible for miscarriages. where they're being criminally prosecuted for losing a fetus. i think the most important thing about this is it has while many voters don't like it, on the right it has energized the movement. now they're not satisfied with the embryonic bill.

an embryo is a person. >> person hood yeah. >> that means evidently it will mean no more ivf because you're killing people when you do ivf. no more birth control pills, no more morning after pills. these have broad sweeping consequences for all of us. >> their findings are actually an under count because they have continued to uncover cases that didn't make it into their initial analysis. we're more than three years out from the dobbs decision. and here we are with stats barely uncovering their impact. how much worse can this get? >> it will only get worse. to molly's point, person hood bills have this idea that a fetus is a person and just outlawing abortion in general. when i see people defend that, i want to say, tell me you

don't understand how women's bodies work without telling me that you don't know how woman's bodies work. miscarriage is unfortunately a part of the process of pregnancy. 10 to 20% of pregnancies do end in miscarriage. and even that number is under counted as well. many women will have miscarriages without knowing they were pregnant to begin with. to say that was a person is to open up a whole bag of worms which is what we're seeing with hundreds of women across the country already. being criminally prosecuted, right. and it just because, because testimony law just doesn't make sense and it's based on a premise that makes no sense. >> it is another troubling sign of what is playing out in this country and what's at stake in november in this election. liz, molly, thank you so much greatly appreciated adds as always.

i want to turn now to something that donald trump is doing. he's trying to distance himself from project 2025. to do that effectively one must read the far right dystopian play book. >> i'm going to take the department of education, close it in washington, let the states run their own education. >> what the hell do you have to lose, right. >> wouldn't you know it. trump's promise comes straight from the project 2025 play book which calls for the e lek elimination of the department of education. and j.d. vance is being prepped by one of the contributors of the project 2025. house democrats are taking that

reality and running with it. house minority leader jeffries and policy economy have held a campaign to expose the far right agenda it calls for. but to also spotlight trump's close ties to the heritage foundation's plan. congressman dingle was one of those democrats at that hearing. thank you for making time for us. let's start with this hearing that you and your colleagues held on project 2025. tell us what you did to expose trump's ties to it. >> what we were trying to do is to actually bring in every day people that are going to be impacted by what project 2025 recommends. the fact of the matter is, donald trump cannot deny he has nothing to do with it. more than 100 people that work for him helped write it. and to hear what's in the report whenever he appears at a rally you hear things that are

in it. from we just had a very stark discussion about a woman's health and her ability to make a decision. he wants to repeal the affordable health care act. which is in there. and there's nothing that's going to replace it. people are forgetting before the health care act people who had preexisting conditions could not even get insurance. i think one of the most disturbing things in there that people don't know about is the fact that he wants to eliminate overtime. that employers would not be required to pay overtime but could require people to work overtime 50, 60, 70 hour weeks. and then he says, we're not going to tax overtime. well you're not going to tax overtime because you're not going to pay it.

>> very effective tactic to raise awareness about what is happening. when you see congresswoman how project 2025 is polling so poorly with voters. i think it's safe to understand why trump and republicans want to distance themselves from it. how do you and your colleagues plan to keep project 2025 at the forefront in this final sprint to the election day with 37 days or so left. >> we plan on talking about it. we have very effective videos that help tell the story. in people's words take the words that are in there. have the experts talk about what the impact is. members of congress, among others will be hosting town halls throughout the states in the next four weeks telling the truth. just telling people, you know you talk about eliminating the department of education which he talked about doing today. he doesn't say he wants to eliminate head start. he opportunity say he wants to eliminate school lunches. there are so many things that are in there, that people have no idea of. and yes, he does have

knowledge. he does want project 2025 wants to eliminate the department of education but there are such critical things that our young children depend on that he wants to eliminate too. we're going to go out and tell people the facts. the facts of what's in there and what he wants to do. >> trump is trying to flip the script on project 2025 and create his own extreme agenda that he says democrats are trying to push earlier this week he posted this comical imagine of kamala harris' so called 2025 plan which includes a list of far right wing talking points. how do you combat what seems to be trump's i know you are but i am. >> donald is coming to michigan a lot. we have to give people the real

specific examples. he talks about the auto industry. when donald trump was president we lost jobs in the auto industry. he did not save it. and we, it is joe biden that has helped bring the supply chain back home. it is joe biden that has created more jobs. it is joe biden that supports working men and women. joe biden wants to give billionaires tax cuts. he's going to increase taxes on every day working men and women. and i've got the facts and figures that are going to show people as i go into union halls and i plan on doing it this month. >> let me ask you about michigan. donald trump is spending a lot of time in my kheu michigan. i think he sees the only path to win is going to go through michigan. what do you think the vice president has to do. it's a different set of challenges for her than donald

trump. the way it affects your constituents many of whom are lebanese americans. >> it's a very complicated time in michigan. we both know that. and both i have to remind, you talked about the second issue, you need to remind people that the first thing donald trump wanted to do was to deport a whole lot of people. i will never forget the spontaneous rally. people all around the state of michigan that came. but he's going to come in. she's going to come to flint at the end of the week. she's going to talk about the economy. people are concerned about how much grocery costs, how they can't find affordable housing which is one of the very first issues she tackled when she got the nomination. beyond that she's got to just get in there and talk about manufacturing. talk about keeping jobs here not letting china take those jobs. taking stalanis on for wanting to move jobs to mexico. she's one of the few people by

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? her village in the region of sudan. a one -day-old infant was thrown to the ground and killed and a male infant was thrown into a pond to drown.

mariann says a gunman rounded up women to rape. she was almost raped herself. she fled to neighboring chad. >> they beat her, they beat her very young children. they tried to rape her. they tortured her husband. and she told me in, you know, words i will not forgot. are we not humans. >> mariam is one of 10 million people who have been displaced from their home. half of the population are facing crisis levels of hunger. as many as 150,000 people have died from war related causes. the people of sudan had already been experiencing record levels of displacement. but over the last 17 months.

a bitter civil war hasbroken out between the sudanese forces and rapid forces. earl littlest today i spoke with a sudanese researchers who briefed the lawmakers. >> i want to begin on thursday the sudanese launched an operation to retake the capital. this is the largest operation i believe since the war began. what are you hearing from your sources about those conditions? >> we're hearing that a lot of people are happy to be taking the dominance in those areas. this is a large military escalation which means the death toll of civilians could

also see that rise sharply in the next few days. the war is definitely playing out. military hatz taken large pieces of land particularly strategic pieces of land. that will be the case over the next few days until we get a sense of what the lay of the land is. but this is a war of attrition. so we're going to have the military taking back certain areas of land. and really the key is that civilians are stuck in the middle while these battles are being reached. >> do you have a sense of how intense the fighting is. what the humanitarian conditions on the ground are. whether it be food, energy, medicine. what are you hearing about the humanitarian conditions. >> sudan's war started at the capital. the capital was hit first and hardest. every system, every type of

infrastructure that sudan has has effectively disintegrated in realtime. every kind of supply chain whether it's medicine. whether it's food have all been impacted by the war. the humanitarian situation is reaching everyone even in areas that are far away from the front lines. what we're seeing is while some markets have been able to open, reopen. hospitals are still largely closed. sudan has the largest population of people in the world who are out of schooling and out of education at least 19 million children. that's the kind of scale you have because this is mostly a war that started out in the center. >> i want to play for you and our viewers just a quick sound bite then i will get your reaction. >> with an attempt an attempt to seize power through force with time it's transformed into

a total war against the sudanese state and people. ethnic cleansing, forced displacement. and genocide. all of this has been committed by the rapid support forces. the rsf which should be considered a terrorist group. what do you make of general brohan's statement there. >> i don't think it's anything that's surprising in his speech. he focused on the role of the emirates and fueling the fighting as the rsf. spoke very little about the country supporting him in the gulf region. he highlighted the role of the rsf in sort of genocide. of course we know that both his forces, the sudanese and rnf have been leading the genocide 20 years ago. it was important for him to frame that this is really an issue of the rsf rather than something that was between two elements of the security states of the former president. it's important for him to come into new york in front of the

world stage and have this military offensive that was reasonably successful in day one. really for him to appear as presidential as he wants to be, we need to see him opening access to aid. and to stop the crack down on first respond -rs particularly those from mutual aid groups and others. >> what do you think the u.s. role is in this, you had president biden speaking out about the situation that has taken place there in sudan. you have this week, the united arab emirates designated the eue as a defense partner. american officials have linked the emirates to the rsf with providing military support. how do you square with what president biden is doing and what he's doing about sudan. >> i think they will find it

very difficult to frame themselves as an arbitrary. the meeting between bensad and biden on monday was very by people in sudan. they saw this as the u.s. effective live handing over their u.s. foreign policies on sudan to the uae which we know the un has said different media publy cases have all proven that they're supporting the campaign in sudan. how can the un reposition themselves as an entity that can bring both of these generals to the table and toward peace. it's really important here to note that it's not just the uae that the playing this role. we zoom out of sudan. we see them vying for power really trying to settle the strategic competition in the region in sudan. sudan is a theater of war for them in this current moment.

the resolution doesn't just rely on the generals in sudan coming to the table. it relies on their position. >> the many proxy wars playing out in the region. thank you we appreciate your insight. >> thank you.

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before we sign off this weekend we want to mark a very special milestone for us here on ayman. here is something our team put together to celebrate three years of hard hitting interviews, under covering stories and of course our worse of the week. >> welcome to our premier show, i'll be with you here every weekend. >> true red blooded american patriots will always remember what happened january 6th. >> elections aren't just every

four years or every two years but they're every year and that every vote matters. >> beyonce or megan the stallion. >> wow if i could add one more. the defining texan willie nelson. >> never did i think i would see my society recognize me. >> you shared a video from the city showing what appears to be a mass grave. >> mulvane was the one person putin feared most and this week he died in a siberian prison. >> if you don't think all of this could end in a gop led effort to ban abortion nationwide, you haven't been paying any attention. >> the climate of fear and intimidation that physicians are facing. >> i don't know why more men aren't speaking out. we all have mothers, we have wives and daughters and

sisters. >> it's a derangement syndrome that has infected the gop called the aauthoritarian bargain. >> former trump officials published something called project 2025. >> well extensively dismantle the federal government as we know it. >> his wife, 15-year-old son, 7- year-old daughter and grandson were killed by an israeli air strike. >> the pain was more than what i could bare. but at the end of the day, i came back, carrying out my tasks and job. >> this is 100% targeted every single protest that we have, there's a group of counter protesters that bring all of their items, their flags and things like that and they're not seen as having unsanctioned protests. >> the thing about young people is they don't like war. they don't like any war probably because they're the ones that are going to have to go fight the war.

>> how hard is it being a palestinian performer right now. >> it's definitely frustrating but that's why i like to, i like to depend on the people more than anything. >> it is time now for worse of the week. cruz is trying to paint himself as a reasonable republican. okay big guy. >> we have a returning and favorite worse of the week allumn, george santos. santos has made more on cameo appearances in four days than he would as a year in the senate. >> one of the state's most powerful figures. i say this with a straight face. a $45 office christmas cake he kept for himself. that is a lot of cake. >> donald trump did not appear in the debate. what do you think he was thinking. >> excuse me, you are such a nasty guy. >> thank you for making time for us this evening. >> have a good night.

an what a journey it has been. thank you for being a part of it and for making time for us each weekend. we're glad you are a part of this show. a reminder to catch ayman each saturday and sunday. follow us on x and instagram. until we meet again, have a good night. guess what? pair eyewear is available exclusively at america's best! pair eyewear allows you to customize your look according to your vibe. pick a base frame, a top frame, and click! get two top frames, a base frame, and an eye exam starting at $129.95 only at america's best.

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we begin tonight with breaking news. the death toll from hurricane helene has risen to at least 89 people. en