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good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. an unthinkable tragedy on every level, with communities torn apart, with the death toll from hurricane helene rising almost by the hour, the focus shifts now to the basics. food, water, gas, power, as tens of thousands plead for help that for many still hasn't come. the president says that help is on the way, but how long can people hold out? plus, after killing hezbollah's leader, israel issues a stark warning to the rest of its enemies. you can run, but you can't hide. now the u.s. secretary of state claims that diplomacy remains the only path to peace. and the path towards the second largest voting bloc in the u.s. at a whole new level. kamala harris blasting donald trump as he doubles down on his anti-migrant messaging and his attacks on her. a lot to get to. a very busy monday. but we begin down south, where residents are facing a
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mind-numbing level of devastation left by hurricane helene. lives and homes lost, futures upended. roughly three and a half days after the hurricane first came ashore, these are the headlines today. officials still trying to get their arms around what one north carolina city councilman described as post-apocalyptic. this is what he was looking at. the area of lake lure and chimney rock, where a wall of water ripped through the area and left this behind. an hour north outside of asheville, homes in swanonia were carried away or torn in half, all but erasing that town from the map. at least 116 deaths have now been blamed on the storm in six states. and that includes a mom and her 1-month-old twins. they were altogether in a bed in their bed in a mobile home in georgia when it struck. a pair of sheriff's deputies were swept away by floodwaters in north carolina and a veteran fire chief in south carolina
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died while responding to the storm. hundreds more have been reported missing, although the hope is that many of them are in areas that just haven't been reached yet. and with cell service down, they can't call out to say they're okay. roughly 1.8 million people are still without power in florida, georgia, and the carolinas, and basic necessities are in short supply, pushing residents to their emotional limits. >> there's no gas, there's no stores open, it's cash only. the atms that's down. there are little babies that have nothing to drink. >> i haven't seen my kids. i'm tired, i'm hungry, still have no power. i have no gas to get to my kids. and i don't know where to get gas. so there's that. >> priscilla thompson is in irwin, tennessee, and nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the white house for us. priscilla, there are 150 people missing just in tennessee. and i know you spoke to some of
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their families. what did they tell you? >> reporter: yeah, well, chris, they are growing more desperate by the day. they have been showing up with photos of their loved ones at these official press conferences, hoping for answers. and what we heard from officials today on day four of their operations is that this is no longer a search and rescue mission, is that this is now a search and recovery mission. and so, these families are looking for closure and there are also a lot of questions. we spoke to the families of two families who were missing loved ones, and they say that their loved ones were working in a factory when the floodwaters began to rise. and they have questions about why it is that officials were able to evacuate the local hospital, but were not able to make it to those folks who were working in this factory. i want to play a little bit of what one of the translators on the ground was able to translate about what these folks were saying. take a listen. >> he says that the last
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communication that he had with her, she said, the water, you know, the water's coming up. it's rising. and we've been trying to call 911, but they already told us that their priority is the hospital. and he says, i don't understand. there's a difference in the platforms. the trailer platform and the hospital. and why was that their priority? >> reporter: and these families say that they were out helping to search for their loved ones. they believe that their bodies were found, but that they still haven't been called by authorities to confirmed that. no one has called them to confirm that. it has been agonizing for them, knowing that they believe that their loved ones are gone, but not having that confirmation. now, at this point, the state of tennessee has only confirmed -- officials have only confirmed a toll of four deaths. but as you mentioned, there are more than 150 people who are still missing. and officials today saying that this is no longer a rescue effort, but that it is going to be a recovery effort now that the waters have fully receded.
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chris? >> so priscilla, as you talk to people at the family reunion center win mean, we're all so used to this, right? we get not just phone calls and texts on this, but we get our information. i mean, is there a huge power vacuum? are they able to go into the center and get the latest? tell me what they're doing to try to an the many questions that they have? >> yeah, well, that is essentially what they have been doing. showing up for the press conferences that are happening, 1:00 in the morning, 1:00 in the afternoon. trying to glean what they can, even asking questions of officials here. and officials have said that one of the challenges with trying to get in touch with families and do a lot of this verification is the communication issues. and so they're really just trying to rebuild a lot of that fracture. you can see if you look behind me, this blue tent, they're currently building a mobile hospital here, trying to get generators connected and things like that, because the hospital
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here also flooded. they're deal with a lot of infrastructure issues, as folks are trying to get information, trying to communicate, and trying to deal with the sheer amount of devastation. chris? >> truly unfathomable. priscilla, thank you so much for that. the president has said that he is on top of this. he has been in constant communication with the many states that have been impacted by this. let me go to nbc's gabe gutierrez, who is at the white house. what are you hearing from inside 1600 pen? >> reporter: hi, there, chris, good afternoon. well, this is day where the president will have to fulfill his role as consoler in chief. and if you can excuse some of the music playing behind me, a band is playing out the olympians and paralympians who are being honored here at the white house just a few moments ago. but before that, earlier this morning, president biden spoke about the federal response to this ongoing disaster, saying more than 3,600 federal personnel were deployed to the
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region. and that he had already signed emergency disaster declarations for many states, florida, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, virginia, and alabama. let's listen to some more of what he had to say. >> i want them to know, we're not leaving until the job is done. i also want you to know, i'm committed to traveling to the impacted areas as soon as possible. but i've been told that it would be disruptive if i did it right now. we will not do that and risk diverting or delaying any of the response aspects needed to deal with this crisis. >> the president went on to say to hope to make it to the affected region by wednesday or thursday. but he's waiting for a time where his presence won't be so disruptive. the president also saying, quote, the nation has your back. however, chris, this is already becoming an issue on the campaign trail. vice president harris cutting her west coast swing short, coming back here to d.c., where she's expected to receive a fema
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briefing at fema headquarters later on this afternoon. former president trump, though, is in southern georgia this afternoon, where he has been criticizing the biden administration and his opponent, vice president harris, for not doing more over the weekend. and for fund-raising in california. we should point out that the former president also held campaign events over the weekend. however, this is already, as i said, playing into the campaign, chris. >> thank you so much for that. we also mentioned a at the top of the show, the devastation surrounding asheville, north carolina. george solis is there for us. what's the latest you're seeing and hearing? >> reporter: yeah, chris, it's really just a dire situation. we're in the river arts district, which is an area that is known for a lot of tourism. this time yesterday, this whole area was still underwater, by these waters that are slow to recede after tropical storm helene really ravaged this area, on top of all of the rain that fell before it. behind me, you can see the level of destruction here. some of these business owners
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are getting their first glance at the destruction here, and it is heartbreaking. as you can see the despair on their faces as they look and kind of ravage through and rubble through the -- look through the rubble, excuse me, for anything that they can advantage up-to-the-. they're also dealing with people trying to steal things from their belongings. it really is just a tragedy upon tragedy. and it's really starting to speak to the level of desperation and frustration that's happening here. a lot of focus really complaining they haven't seen that federal response. they're awaiting for any kind of update that says that these resources are going to be here. some of that information is starting to spread through some of those channels. the other big challenge here, and it has been for days, is the cell phone service. it is spotty, at best. you have heard from officials that they've set up cell phone towers that work in some areas, but a lot of people just aren't able to communicate with their loved ones. the bunkham sheriff updating earlier today saying they're getting calls left and right for people to do wellness checks. about 11,000 or so.
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really just staggering numbers when you think about this area that was hit so hard by this storm. and no definitive timeline on when they are going to get water. that's really becoming a story line. residents are helping each other with bottles of water or anything they have. that's eventually going to run out. we have shortages of gas and no power in some areas. it's an issue that keeps compounding upon another issue, so people really don't know how much more they can take, chris. >> priscilla thompson, thank you so much for you and your crews for your reporting. with just 36 days before the election, the aftermath of hurricane helene is a new testing ground for the candidates and in kamala harris' case, also as vice president. harris cut her western campaign swing short, leaving las vegas a short time ago for d.c., to get an in-person briefing on helene's impact. on sunday, she spoke by phone to the fema administrator, and according to the white house, plans to visit impacted
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communities as soon as it's possible without disrupting emergency operations. donald trump, on the other hand, isn't waiting. after criticizing harris' initial response, he's going to hard-hit valdosta, georgia, to see the damage in person and speak with officials there. nbc's garrett haake is in valdosta for us, two of the states hit hardest by helene are also battleground states, north carolina, and where you are in georgia. and i understand that donald trump has arrived? >> that's right, chris. he landed at the valdosta airport a short time ago. you know as well as i from covering this kind of thing for a long time, disasters are opportunities for incumbents, be they governors or presidents to be on the ground and look presidential. here you see donald trump not the incumbent, trying to lean in and take over that spot here in southern georgia by being the first of the major candidates on the ground here, just minutes after landing in valdosta, he spoke to reporters and hammered the administration over what he says has been a lack of federal
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response to this hurricane so far. listen to this. >> the federal government is not being responsive, but they're having a very hard time getting the president on the phone. he won't get on. and of course, the vice president, she's out some place campaigning, looking for money. so they have to be focused over here. it's too big. this is a really bad one. >> reporter: chris, i don't think there's any reason to believe that the president isn't reachable on the phone. the president is president everywhere they go, but here you see former president trump, essentially trying to take advantage of this, to cast a light on his opponent for being essentially on the wrong coast, when this storm hit. i expect we'll hear a lot more of that when he gives remarks a little bit later today after touring a command center here. you mentioned, two of the hardest hit states critical battleground states, georgia and north carolina. there'll be opportunity for a
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long tail here of how this storm might affect the campaign, who's able to go to those states and when. of course, it's worth remembering the context here. all of this talk about donald trump and his security, he now has the same secret service apparatus around him as would a sitting president making a stop in the disaster zone, very closely thereafter. exactly the kind of thing you hear the president and vice president talk about not necessarily wanting to do to take up local resources. chris? >> garrett haake, we'll check back in with you as we hear more and see more from the former president. appreciate it. coming up in just 90 seconds, new threats against israel as it expands its operation in lebanon. iran is vowing the assassination of hezbollah's leader will not go unanswered. we've got that, next. t go unanswered. we've got that, next i don't have to worry about a mortgage payment every month. it allowed me to live in my home and not have to make payments. if you're 62 or older and own your home, you could access a portion of your equity to improve your lifestyle. a reverse mortgage loan can eliminate your monthly mortgage payments
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there's no safety anywhere, that's what one lebanese man told "the new york times" after israel bombed central beirut for the first time in years, killing three palestinian leaders. a hamas commander was killed in a separate strike, the latest on a rapidly growing list of militant leaders taken out by israeli leaders in recent days, including the powerful leader of hezbollah. more than a thousand people have been killed in all, according to lebanese officials. and as many as a million displaced by israel's ferocious air campaign. and now, israel is launching special forces raids in southern lebanon, ahead of a potential ground offensive. that's according to an israeli official.
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nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from haifa, israel. also with us, retired army colonel, jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient, and nbc news military analyst. aaron david miller with international peace. it's good to have all of you here. and i know you've got some new reporting on these israeli raids. what do we know? >> chris, an israeli official tells nbc news these are small-scale operations being carried out by israeli commandos, who are crossing the border into southern lebanon. we're just about 15 miles south of that border right now. and this official says that the goal of these raids is one, to gather intelligence, and two, to probe hezbollah's defenses to see where hezbollah sources are positioned, where they may be weak. and we are learning of these raids as every sign appears to indicate that israeli forces are preparing for a ground offensive into southern lebanon. israel's defense minister was here in the north of the country
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earlier. he told the heads of local towns, local villages that the next phase of the war begins soon. he was also meeting with israeli ground troops, telling them that they will be expected to go into combat at this stage. no indication of exactly when a potential ground offensive could come. but i can tell you, this is a country right now on high alert. you drive the highways of northern israel, you are seeing many, many military vehicles, some of them on your screen right there, israeli tanks, artillery, moving, it seems, into position so that if the order does come for them to cross the border into southern lebanon, they can carry that out. chris, just a little bit of the broader context here. if israeli forces do invade southern lebanon, it would be the first time that they go in in large numbers since the end of the last war between israel and hezbollah back in 2006. that was a brief, very bloody,
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but inconclusive conflict. israel left without really pushing hezbollah back. but then you go back to 1982, when israel invaded southern lebanon the first time. that was supposed to be a limited operation and israeli forces ended up staying there for 20 years. that was a decision that re-wrote the history of the middle east and it seems that similar decisions are being taken by prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his government tonight and an israeli official tells us that israel's security cabinet will meet at 2:00 p.m. eastern time, 9:00 p.m. local. we expect the top of their agenda will be any decisions around this ground offensive. and of course, chris, this would be a major, major escalation. we have talked for 11 months about the war in gaza spilling out into an all-out regional conflict. this would be a very significant
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step. we have already seen major escalation with some 1,100 people, including nearly 100 children killed in lebanon over the last two weeks, as israel has stepped up its bombing campaign. among the dead, hasan nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah. a man who for decades has been feared and hated by israelis, for the attacks that his forces have carried out, and hated across other parts of the middle east for his force's involvements in israel. i'll tell you, chris, people here thought that that assassination would lead to very widespread hezbollah rocket fire. so far, that isn't something we've seen. but people here are on high alert. chris? >> well, and understand apply so, aaron david miller. now that there is a meeting coming up in just 40 minutes of the security cabinet in israel about the potential for a ground offensive, what are the discussions like and what's the role, if any, that the u.s. has in terms of influence.
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>> as i've said, the israeli experience in lebanon when barak withdrew to recognize blue line, even though there are disputed points was a very, very, very unhappy experience. i don't imagine the israelis are considering a military deployment, either in '78 when they initially went in and set up a security zone, or in '82, when they essentially went to beirut and beyond. i think the objective will be limited, basically to destroy infrastructure aboveground and below ground, and to clear that area of the elite hezbollah military group, assuming they are still there. the real issue here, chris, is how do the israelis tether their brilliant tactical and
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operational successes over the last ten days with the objective that they say they want, which is a return of the 78,000 israelis who have been forced to relocate from those northern villages and border communities. that's the key. and i don't see any quick way. there's no military objective, until the israels are prepared to stay in southern lebanon in force. and that would expose them to an insurgency, that would probably help hezbollah regain some of the currency that it's lost. >> so, colonel, what will you be looking for out of this meeting and from israel? do you believe that israel wants a war now? and is, i guess, prepared to do what needs to be done to win? >> well, nobody wants a war and you have to define what "win" means. netanyahu is under intense
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domestic pressure to make that border area safe so these people can return to their homes. that's the first thing. and they did something that focused not just on that, but focused on the strategic objective of eliminating hezbollah's capability to repopulate the area north of the border and to continue to harass israel by eliminating command and control nodes, the leadership, ammunition stores, and so on to make it difficult if not impossible for hezbollah to re-constitute itself in any meaningful fashion over a reasonable period of time. the terrain up there is extremely difficult for an attacking force. it favors the defense, cross-compartmented into the extent that any enemy seizes the high ground, it makes it extremely difficult to move in any further than just a little ways. and so the objective is clearly
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to clear a zone close to the border to make it safe for israelis to return to that area. chris? >> aaron, it's estimated that a million people have been driven from their homes in lebanon. about a hundred thousand, it's estimated, have crossed into syria, and that's a country that has its own serious problems. what can and should the international community be doing right now to prevent an escalating humanitarian crisis? >> i mean, i think we're beyond that, with chris. what did the international community with respect to the last ten minutes of gaza? the israeli response -- events are in charge now, chris. and events are beyond, i think, america's control, let alone the control of the international community. >> aaron david miller, raf sanchez, colonel jack jacobs, gentlemen, thank you so much. donald trump ramping up his anti-migrant rhetoric in the final weeks until election day, as new polling shows vice president harris losing ground with latino voters.
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cares more about solving problems than playing political games and demeaning people full-time. >> that comes after trump targeted harris at rallies all weekend, posting on truth social, after that, should be impeached, prosecuted, or both over the administration's handling of the border. our latest nbc news telemundo cnbc polls shows harris leading the former president among latinos voters, but democrats' advantage is shrinking. david noriega is reporting from clark county, nevada. also with us welcome all of you. there's a new article out today in the "wall street journal" that says that trump and j.d. vance are blaming a broad array of the nation's ills on immigrants, betting that doing so will help them win over
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voters. is that a pretty good bet? >> i think there's a couple of inconvenient truths here for former president trump and j.d. vance. the first that violent crime is down in the united states, to the lowest in nearly 50 years. border crossings is also -- illegal border crossings is also down significantly. and so there's some facts here that are getting missed in the story. it's no surprise that what they're doing is stirring up racism. they're actually making these arguments that they're making about crime and immigrants, it's making it more dangerous for americans, because it is going to stir up people who are targeting folks, folks who live here, have come here illegally as well along the way. this is a very dangerous game they're playing, but it's not a new one. >> so nbc news ask five voters in montana about trump's remarks, how undocumented immigrants are infecting our country. take a listen. >> i call things as i see them,
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it is an infection. >> infect, desecrate, whatever. those type of words that are really inappropriate. and that's one of the reasons that i'm no longer a fan of donald trump. >> it's pretty disgusting. >> it's really hypocritical and rude to hate on immigrants. flost reason that someone can't come here and get a job and contribute to society and help make our country better. it's just racism. >> i think his rhetoric is pretty horrific and purposefully meant to evoke these feelings of disgust in people. that otherwise shouldn't be there. >> now, montana, of course, has a very competitive senate race, but steve kornacki, let's look at the big picture. we have this new national poll of latino voters and some of the results are surprising, particularly on immigration. tell us what we found. >> you showed it at the beginning. a 14-point advantage overall. among latino voters in our poll. that's low historically speaking for a democrat. take a look at some of what is
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going into that. we asked on a range of characteristics and issues here, which candidate would be better on, and the big advantage for harris is on abortion. this is on latino voters, on being a competent and effective commander in chief, a sizable advantage for harris. but take a look, trump's advantage on the economy, we see this overall with voters, continues to see it with latino voters, on inflation, nine-point trump advantage, there it is. and on the border and on immigration, trump among latino voters with a 13-point advantage over harris. on the question, who would deal better with the issue on the immigration, latino voters by double digits are saying donald trump in our poll. estimate to a shift on broader attitudes on latino voters, here's the topic on immigration. here's a baseline question. do you think that immigration helps the united states more than it hurts or hurts the united states more than it helps? we asked this eight years ago, back in 2016.
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69 said helps more, 16% said hurts more. these numbers have changed a bit. now down to 62% of latino voters who say immigration helps more than it hurts, and up to 35%, a little bit more than 1 out of 3 who says it hurts more than it helps. and one other thing to put this in some perspective. the other shift we're seeing is broadly philosophical. which party do you identify with? we asked latino voters? right now, it's the democrats 39%, the republicans, 37%. but to show you how this has changed. 2016 was the first trump election. when he beat donald trump, look that the, by three to one, latino voters identified more than as democrats than republicans. as trump has come to define the republican party, in 16, 20, and 24, look at that. that number has ticked up from 20%, now to 37%. that democratic number among latino voters was at 59 when trump came on the scene and is down to 49 today.
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the movement among latino voters has been toward trump in the last eight years. >> it's so interesting to me that now that that number hurts more than it helps is rising. does that say, should it say to the harris campaign that the trump messaging is getting through in a way that hers isn't? >> a couple of things are going on. first of all, folks are getting to know harris in this race. she's working very hard to get out there and talk to people. >> she doesn't have a lot of time. >> she doesn't have a lot of time. what she does have is better numbers than biden did with latinos. what she's also showing is a lot of movement with latinas. young latinas under 40, she's winning by 14 points. battleground states, she's winning by 60% with latinas. and latinas are one of the fastest growing segments of, and
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over the last 12 years, and these latinas vote at a higher rate than latinos. i think she has room to move with men, with white men, with latinos, but when you look at where the latinas are on these issues, and you just saw it with steve's chart, on the economy, on abortion, on these kinds of freedoms, this is what's guiding these elections. i know that the republicans and donald trump want it to be about crime and immigration, but there are other issues that are animating this election right now. >> david, you are in the critical swing state of nevada, in las vegas's predominantly latino east side. what are you hearing from folks there? >> reporter: talking to voters here on the east side, a couple of things that i have taken away. almost universally, when i affect the issue they care about the most is unanimously something that has to do with the economy, pocketbook issues, but beyond that is a community that is torn between these two candidates. more torn between the candidates
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than they've been in several election cycles, as our polling now shows. i've heard a couple of peoples say, rent it comes to the economy, they're inclined to support donald trump, but they're turned off by his antipathy towards immigrants. we've spent some time in different parts of las vegas during this weekend. for example, we went to a local part, not far from where i am now, with some youth soccer leagues happening. asked what they're worried about. i want to play you clips from a couple of the people that i interviewed. take a look. >> i love what donald trump did. i don't know what she has to offer, because she's new. so that's kind of like taking a chance on her, you know.
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so that's what i mean. but i do like how she is doing a lot of things for small businesses and how she has that decide for them. >> i vote for trump, just because, you know, the four years he was in office, we were doing good, absolutely good. kamala, she's already in office and ain't getting [ bleep ] done. and you know, i mean, there was more work, too. we were able to afford things. >> chris, that first voter told me that she's about 60/40 leaning towards trump. that second voter, fuly committed towards trump, but her husband is voting for harris. so divisions within households in this community. >> and i think that's like a lot of people we see in many places across america. do you see the results, for example, from the poll, but also from those conversations, signal a longer term-realignment of
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latino voters. is this more a reflection of the current political and economic climate. what's at play here? >> yeah, with the demographics of this country continue to change, they're going to continue to change. we've known that, seen that happening. and democrats have to get to work. we have to engage communities and meet them where they are, not where they've been. and there are real challenges, even on immigration alone, we know what's going to happen if donald trump wins. our neighbors and our friends, people who have been here, who have spent most of their lives here will be deported in mass deportations. this isn't a hypothetical. this is a thing they're planning and preparing for. i think we have to get real about how that will look like and feel like and how that will disrupt our own economy here at home. i think there's a lot at stake. but you're absolutely right. there's work to be done that goes well beyond november for both parties and reaching out to communities that are growing and evolving. >> jess o'connell and david
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just this morning, a lawyer for indicted new york city mayor eric adams filed a motion to dismiss the bribery charge against him, arguingt it doesn't meet the definition of bribery and doesn't amount to a federal crime at all. despite growing calls for him to resign, today aums remains defiant. >> i've done nothing wrong. time will prove that. the reality is, it's not about quitting. it's about stepping up and continuing to deliver for the city. the attorneys will handle the legal aspect of it. i'm going to stay focused. >> joining me now, former sdny criminal division, deputy chief, former federal prosecutor, and msnbc legal analyst, christy greenberg, and nbc's tom winter is here. walk us through the latest on this. >> today's legal filing was a direct attack at the bribery count. now, by no means is eric adams' legal team conceding guilt on any of the other things he's been charged with, but today was
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focused on bribery. and there was even a press conference held by his attorney to actually go through what they believe they found and why this case, specifically, the bribery count, should never have been filed at all, and now that it has, should be dismissed. let's take a listen. >> gratuities are not federal crimes. courtesies to politicians are not federal crimes. they do not violate federal law. we expect the bribery charges to be dismissed on the pending motion. the rest of this case is nothing but a campaign finance case. >> so, chris, the idea here, that they're saying is, look, from time to time, he received gifts or benefits or certain things from the turkish government. and this issue comes up with the turkish house -- >> for example, a very expensive flight. >> right, flight upgrades, talk about hotel rooms or upgraded hotel rooms. but he's saying, those are gifts they received over time.
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they're using the case of robert mcdonald versus the united states. he's a former virginia governor, and the supreme court ruled and really defined when it came to federal program, bribery, exactly the types of hurdles that federal prosecutors need to hit in order to be ae to file and convict charges when it comes to bribery involving these types of politicians. what he's saying is, look, what this case needed, if it was an actual bribery count is for them to say, look, there needed to be some type of evidence where the turkish government or businessman went to eric adams and said, hey, we're going to give you "x" and we need "y" done. for example, if i said to you, hey, chris, over time, i might have bought a coffee for you at some point here in the building >> never happened, but okay. >> fair point, but if i bought a hat or a coffee or something like that and i came to you today and said, hey, i need an extra 30 seconds for my segment, i have important something to say, and you delivered that, would that necessarily
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constitute a crime. what they're saying is, i needed to do is say, hey, i put a $100 bill in your desk and i need more time on the show. he said, haas more specific, more to the point. that's what eric adams' attorneys and to some degree the supreme court has said, that' the standard that needs to be met in order for you to convict on bribery. that's what they're attacking today. >> so christy, does eric adams' lawyer have a point here? is he right that these charges do not amount bribery? >> well, so, the court is going to look at this, based on whether as alleged, it is bribery. there's a separate issue as to whether the facts will ultimately at trial back it up. just based on the indictment, have they made the allegation? and the answer is yes. they have said here that, adams pressured the fdny to open this building, even though despite there were safety hazards, in exchange for luxury travel benefits. they very clearly state, that is
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the quid pro quo. so as alleged, i think this will hold up. but actually, sdny does more than that. they provide some facts. you don't have to do that. they say, there's an exchange between an adams staffer and turkish official has said, turkey has supported eric adams, and now it's his turn to support turkey. that staffer went back and told eric adams, who apparently said, yeah, i know, and did it. and shortly thereafter, the luxury travel continued. so, i think they have alleged -- i think they've said what they've needed to say in this indictment. >> so christy, the first school chancellor got married over the weekend. the marriage had reportedly been planned for some time. does it mean that they can claim spousal privilege if they're called to testify in court, and could this influence how this case plays out. >> so, yes, it means that in
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terms of any testimony, whether they could testify against each other, yes, they can claim spousal privilege. however, for the period before they were married, where they were just engaged, where they were just dating, they don't have spousal privilege, as to those communications. and that's significant, because before they were married, their phones were seized. and so all of the messages that are on those phones, all of their communications back and forth between them, that potentially is evidence of a crime, that can still be used against them. so that, i think, is very significant. whether either of them would even testify in a trial seems to be pretty rare that the defendant, if they were to be charged, would testify. i think that's less significant. and what's more significant is that the evidence that the prosecutors have so far of their communications, no privilege would attach to. >> kristy and tom, thank you both. coming up, new details about the toxic chemical plant fire
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former president donald trump who is of course running for president and has made an appearance in valdosta, georgia, one of the places hard hit by hurricane helene, the vice president, who he's running
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against has said she will wait to see where she can go, given the level of security these candidates have where it is not disruptive, but we're continuing to keep our eye on the former president there, and any remarks he will make. he's going after the podium. we will keep an ear to that. elsewhere in georgia, more than 90,000 people have been warned to close their windows. shutter their businesses and shelter in place. because it's unclear where a plume of hazardous smoke could go next. the epa says chlorine has been detected in the air after a chemical plant fire east of atlanta shot huge dark gray plumes in the sky that could be seen for miles. priya sridhar is in atlanta with more on this. what do we know about how this happened and the potential risks right now? >> reporter: this happened at a place called biolab, they are a manufacturer of pool and spa cleaning treatment products.
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a sprinkler malfunctioned and the water ended up mixing with chemicals that are resistant to water and that's what caused the fire. it was difficult for firefighters to contain it because they were trying to fight the fire with water, which was making matters worse. they were eventually able to contain it. then it reignited it. it went on for 12 or 13 hours. the shelter in place warning was supposed to expire at midnight. early this morning, residents in the area received another warning and it said it was going to remain in place until further notice. in addition to that, about 17,000 people who lived in that area had been evacuated and now people as far away as atlanta, by the way, which is 25 miles away from where this fire took place, they're saying that they're also reporting the odor of chlorine in the air and the same kind of haze. mayor of atlanta did dispatch atlanta firefighters to do testing of the air there. so far, there hasn't been any reports that chlorine has been detected anywhere outside of the
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evaluation zone. >> priya sridhar, thank you for that. and coming up, secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas will join us to discuss the recovery efforts throughout the southeast, following the devastation left by helene. and tomorrow night's vice presidential debates, hot mics, and two campaign strategies. we've got more "chris jansing reports" right after this quick break. jansing reports" right after this quick break. iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast.
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