famously banned from the sport for gambling died at the age of 83. known as charlie hustle he was a 17 time all-star and three time world champion retiring after the 1986 season with 4256 hits and a record that stands to this day. and the basketball hall of fame or, dikembe mutombo died after a two-year battle with brain cancer at just 58. he was named the defensive player of the year four times in his 18 year career and also known for his humanitarian work in the nba's first global ambassador. a lot of people knew him for his famous line, not today. and on that very sad note, i wish you all a safe night and kiss your kids, hug your family. be grateful for this day. but for now i am signing off from all of our colleagues across the network at nbc news, thank you for staying up late

with me. i will see you again tomorrow. thank you for joining us is our and this is one of those news days where everything is busting out all over. there is a lot going on. and a lot of the big news in the country in the world right now is still developing tonight. i have to tell you, tonight, we are keeping our eyes trained on the middle east with a significant escalation and expansion in the conflict between israel and hezbollah in lebanon and hezbollah is the iran backed militia group based in lebanon who are a key ally of hamas and hezbollah and israel have been trading fire for months across the border of those two countries since the hamas attack in israel last october. you will also recall earlier this month israel sort of opened a new area launching

attacks in lebanon that killed people including civilians in israel ramped up airstrikes across lebanon which killed hundreds of people and displaced hundreds of thousands. they then killed the leader of hezbollah . earlier today the israeli troops were seen amassing on the ground near the lebanese border. now, israel has reportedly launched a ground incursion over the border inside lebanon and this is a big deal. two u.s. officials tell us that an israeli ground operation has, in fact begun tonight. this is inside lebanon. united states officials have been blunt about the fact they fear that operations like this could think the whole region into further and more widespread fighting and chaos.

again, the news tonight and a developing story that we are keeping our eyes on is israeli troops are on the ground inside of lebanon tonight and we will keep you posted as we learn more. here at home tonight news of every imaginable shape and size and tomorrow is the vice presidential debate, which is always an interesting point but always an unpredictable wildcard in any presidential election because of these two particular vice presidential candidates this year and i feel like this time and at least i submit for your consideration this time that it may be worth thinking little bit harder than usual about this particular debate in advance before it happens. as i mentioned at the top of the hour, i do have a lot more coming up on that later on in the show this hour. in particular it could be something you may not know, something you may have heard about but something you may not know about jd vance in

particular. we have been working on this story for a long time and i have to tell you i debated with myself a long time about whether or not to do this story, but it is time to do it and we are going to do it and that is still ahead later on in the show tonight. we also have major news from the fbi today which just released its report on violent crime in america for the first half of this year and according to that new report, violent crime is significantly down in the country for the first half of this year and down more by 10% and down by every metric in the report with aggravated assault down 8% in robbery down 13% and rape down 17% and murder down more than 22%. as donald trump and jd vance campaign for president and vice president by saying america is a crime infested scape because of joe biden and kamala harris, this new report may play a role in the debate tomorrow or play a role in the campaign in general. regardless of the politics, it is just good news for the country,.. we are also watching the ports right now on the east coast and

on the gulf coast where the longshoreman's union has a contract that expires tonight at midnight. that is really important for the whole country. there is about 47,000 longshoreman in that union. in a lot of ways, they are a linchpin in the american economy at large. the ports along the east coast and gulf coast that ring goods into this country, they literally can't operate without the longshoreman. it has been decades since this union has gone on strike. if it happens and if it is prolonged, it has a real potential to cause serious chaos and disruption in the american economy and potentially leading to very visible consequences for americans doing their everyday shopping and shortages in the stores, price increases. that would be happening a few weeks before the presidential election. if this strike happens, it is estimated it will cost the united states economy about $4 billion every day that goes on.

and again, unless there is a last-minute agreement, the pardoning table is expected to begin tonight at midnight for that very consequential strike. like i said, news of every shape and size including a lot developing over the course of this evening. we do still also have eyes on georgia, specifically on a giant toxic gas plume in rockdale county, georgia, east of atlanta. you probably saw the news early yesterday morning with a fire that erupted at a chemical plant in georgia and that fire produced this giant poisonous flooring cloud. this isn't out in the middle of nowhere. this is in a very well populated area in georgia and in the immediate aftermath of the fire, interstate 20 had to be shut down in both directions. it has since reopened. more than 24 hours after the initial fire, there are still more than 90,000 people who are

still under stay-at-home orders as of tonight and people who are being advised to not open windows or doors or run the air conditioning, nothing to prevent exposure to these poisonous chlorine fumes. and that said, the order has just been lifted but it was in effect for most of the day today. a very consequential, again, chemical plant fire in toxic gas plume. >> on top of all of that we have been consumed with what has happened in the wake of hurricane helene which has killed at least 121 people across six different states and left extensive damage in its wake, particularly in beautiful western north carolina, the region that has endured what one local official described as biblical devastation. more than 300,000 people are without power in north carolina tonight and the epicenter of the damage

in north carolina appears to be a county and particularly the lovely historic city of asheville. at least 40 people have died there and more than 600 missing persons reports were filed as of last night and roads and businesses have been washed away and asheville's water system has taken extreme damage and that full restoration could take week and a place without water is pretty much uninhabitable. and the mayor has described powerlines as looking like spaghetti with power down and all of the other damage and knocking out self-service hampering recovery efforts.

roy cooper was on the ground surveying the damage and meeting with first responders in his assessment was grim. he said the devastation was beyond belief and even when you prepare for something like this, this is something that's never happened before and western north carolina. joining us now live is the governor of north carolina. i know you are really in the middle of it and thinking you to take time to be with us tonight to help us understand what is going on. >> sure, rachel, glad to be here. >> we have all covered a lot of storms and hurricanes and devastating inland flooding but even still feels like the scale of this is something different. can you tell us about how i guess the scale of it is and how this compares to other things that you have to contend with in your leadership? >> i have seen a lot of storms and aftermath but never anything like this. this is an unprecedented disaster. we are meeting it with an unprecedented response and we have 92 search and rescue teams out now rescuing people as we speak. we are working closely with

fema and they have been on the ground with me all day today and they delivered 1 million liters of water and 600,000 meals and hundreds and hundreds of pallets are being airlifted to communities completely cut off from the ground because they are surrounded by water. we know there are a lot of people hurting and you don't have power or you don't have cell phone service you don't have water, this is a catastrophic situation before you. we are coordinating federal, state, local, nonprofits into helping the western part of north carolina. this is rugged terrain on beautiful blue sky days. after these landslides and raging rivers like we have never seen before, some of our communities are completely wiped out and its emotional

especially for people in north carolina and people from all over the country who frequently go to see the devastation here. but i have talked to people today. there is a real strength here. nurses are sleeping in hospitals and restaurants serving free meals and hotels having rooms to first responders. there are people working in the parking lot passing out water at churches. people are pulling together. we will get through this. we have a lot of work to do in the short term and a lot of recovery in the long term. >> rescue comes before recovery and 92 search and rescue teams out tonight as we speak. is there anyplace that search and rescue teams are still having trouble getting to? are there places that they can't get to or resources that could help? again, the rescue teams that

you don't have that you need? >> we do have rescue teams from all over the country right now from over 20 states and the federal rescue teams and the national guard with 700 activated. we are taking phone calls from people who have not heard from their friends or relatives and are doing well checks on them to make sure they are okay. if you can't get to them by land, we are using aircraft and there have been a number of air rescues and actually hundreds of air rescues because areas have been cut off. we will keep pouring in the resources. this will have to be a sustained response, talking with the president a few times today and talking with the vice president, the fema director, who is on the ground, and will

stay in north carolina. she and i will be in the western part of the state tomorrow. we know this will require everything we have to get these roads open as quickly as we can and do get cell phone service up and power on to people and make sure people have food and water and people are working around the clock, real heroes who have damage to their own homes who are out there working giving medical assistance to people, working in first response and it is amazing, heartbreaking and encouraging at the same time to see everybody working together so well right now. >> north carolina governor, roy cooper, we know your state right now is extreme and good luck in getting things you need and let us know.

we do have word from the white house and you heard the governor say he will be back in western north carolina tomorrow and president biden is scheduled to visit the state the day after tomorrow on wednesday. up next, something that i have been debating for a few weeks now whether or not to do on the show. but i feel like, if not me, who? it isn't coming up in other places. i sort of feel like we all need to know it and now is the time. on the eve of the vice presidential debate tomorrow, i feel like now is the time. so we will do it. settle in. on the other side of this break i have a story to tell you. i have to consent -- confess that it's a story that gives me the oogs, but we had to do it.

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okay. this is one of those stories. are you ready for it? here we go. his name was charles r walgreen and moved illinois and is young man he worked at a shoe factory but at an accident at the factory he got injured and lost a finger which is a terrible thing that because of that he had to give up the shoe factory job so we started working instead as an assistant pharmacist at a drugstore in his hometown and he had to go off and fight in the spanish- american war in cuba and while there, he got malaria and yellow fever neither of which is any fun but survived both of them and he came back to the united states after the spanish- american war and came back to the chicago area and decided he would keep going with the pharmacy stuff so he opened up his own drugstore. it wasn't just a drugstore.

his big retail innovation was that, yes, he operated a pharmacy, but his pharmacy would also sell stuff other than drugs. they'd be a place where you could get a sandwich or a milkshake or by other stuff you might need for your house. and with that model, mr. walgreen was wildly successful. by the 1920s he had over 100 walgreens drugstores and by the 1930s, he had hundreds more walgreens drugstores and by the 1930s he was also very freaked out about his niece, specifically about his niece lucille being exposed to freelove and communism. charles walgreens niece lucille had gone off to the university of chicago, great school. when she came home from school, she and her rich uncle walgreen apparently started having what he called frequent arguments.

here's the new york times, april 12, 1935. you see the headline, charles r walgreen takes needs from college. the head of a national chain of drugstores has caused his niece to withdraw as a student at the university of chicago and has written a letter criticizing institution for its communistic influence. his letter was sent to the president of the university with copies mailed to the university's trustees. this actually turned into kind of a big famous thing at the time. there is a whole bunch of newspaper coverage of it at the time. you can see some of the headlines here, walgreen answers university of chicago asking facts, promises proofs of communism. here is another, university of chicago had demands data on charge of radical teachings. attack is called a vague, legislative inquiry thought.

here's another, legislators here walgreen charge. he asserts university of chicago taught communism. freelove is also alleged. oh no, not freelove. the actually did hold a hearing in the state legislature in illinois on this scandal of the walgreens guy taking his niece out of college. the drugstore guys niece was exposed to freelove and communism so the state legislature had to the hearing was dominated by walgreen's expert witness, who he had called to testify on his behalf. her name was elizabeth dilling, and she really took over the hearing and turned it into a big spectacle. she demanded that no one be allowed to silence her. she said she would continue her testimony on the radio if they told her time was up in the legislative hearing.convene a hearing. >> she said she knew she knew and she had less of all the communists at the university of

chicago and also mentioned that she had lists of senators who she knew were communists as well. she said the president of the board of trustees at the university of chicago, who was like a millionaire meatpacking guy was not only a communist but she said he was a communist quote of the creampuff type. a meatpacking millionaire creampuff communist. yes. that was elizabeth dilling and it was sort of wild and they described it as fist swinging, hooting, cheering and heckling and her husband was there and actually punched out a guy from the antidefamation league in the middle of the hearing and it was crazy. the whole thing went from 0 to 100 and charles walgreen arguing with his niece and going from that to a full-blown state legislative hearing on whether the university of chicago should be shut down by the state as a subversive organization. and even though that crusade by

uncle walgreen did not work to shut down the university of chicago, the crusade sort of caught on. after the walgreens university of chicago thing, the same expert witness got a call from henry ford of the ford motor company and he paid her to come to michigan to expose all the evil communists at the university of michigan and try to get the university of michigan shut down as well. and that it was california and the los angeles chamber of commerce paid her to come to southern california where she assured everyone that she had confirmed the ucla was a hotbed of communism, presumably also freelove. she did the same thing at cornell. she did the same thing at northwestern, trying to get all of these university shut down. they wanted all of these universities shut down as evil, subversive, communistic institutions.

they did not get the university shut down. but a lot of very rich people working on this is what they thought was a mainstream political project. as weird as it sounds, this is a thing they really put at the center of their agenda. and the expert who they had work on all these campaigns, elizabeth dilling, she was a piece of work on her own. not to put too fine a point on it but she was a huge fan of nf hitler and the nazi party. before we got into world war ii, they paid her in germany expenses for her to repeatedly visit germany and then go back to the u.s. and praise the nazi party and hitler's leadership. the german press had a nickname for her. they called her the female furor and she wrote a whole series of wildly anti-semitic books about how jewish people were plotting to destroy the world and everybody needed to rise up against the juice. she was put on trial when the trial dragged on for months and the judge allowed her to trach

breaks from attending the trial so she could go back to her day job and player bills -- pay her bills which was helping to organize rallies for the america first party where her specific job was leading the crowd in anti-semitic songs which she did writer self. and elizabeth dilling was bananas. at this crusade to shut down the universities and expose universities subversive institutions that have to be shut down if we save america, this is been a recurring thing on the far right for a long time and that all happened in the 30s. but when barry goldwater was the republican nominee for president in 1964, one of the minor scandals in his campaign, which had a lot of scandals, is his campaign employed a full- time campaign worker who was organization had been shut down by the us government during

world war ii because it was an american fascist organization. the guys name was allen zoll . he then reorganized himself into something called the national council for american education, which investigated american universities for a subversion and tried to shut them down for being communist or whatever. he put out pamphlets with titles like "they want your child." allen zoll almost somewhat famously testified in congress that felix frankfurter shouldn't be approved as a supreme court justice because he was jewish. he said that was the grounds on which he thought he shouldn't be confirmed. the shut down the universities thing has been an obsession the far right on and off for a very long while. and its most famous proponents have just not been the best people. they objectively have mostly

been associated with not just the far right but literally with fascism. the organization of allen zoll was banned by the us government as a fascist group. elizabeth dilling was a fascist hitler enthusiast who spent her life crusading against jewish people and the shut down the university thing doesn't have a good pedigree on the american far right. but it comes up in a recurring way. and we do have a some new proponents of it now. which i think we should all be aware of, particularly ahead of tomorrow's vice presidential candidates debate. >> i think if any of us want to do the things we want to do for our country and for the people who live in it, we have to honestly and aggressively attack the universities in this country. ladies and gentlemen, the universities do not pursue knowledge and truth. they pursue deceit and lies, and it is time to be honest about that fact. of course i imagine i don't have to convince any more of you that this is preposterous

in the universities in our country are fundamentally corrupt and dedicated to deceit and lies. our universities are so committed to some of the most per spotá-- preposterous dishonesty's in the world. >> jd vance is now the republican nominee for vice president of the united states. this is a speech he gave not that long ago where the title of the speech was the universities are the enemy. he gave this speech less than three years ago in florida. but the theme of this speech, and this is a recurring sort of the thing for him. >> you come to america, you learned that america is an evil place. you go to harvard, you put your preferred pronouns in your biography and you learn to hate the people who live in the american heartland, right? harvard university endowment, $41 million of money, a lot of that is going to aggressively promote left-wing radicalism. .harvard university endowment

funds some of the most radical anti-american stuff that's out there. harvard university endowment pays a zero percent tax rate. maybe it's time to tax that endowment, seize the endowment, actually penalize these endowments for being on the wrong side of some of these culture war issues. conservatives have got to wake up to this reality. so yes i think there are ways for us to seize the endowments. we just have to be willing to actually do it. >> right. i like that answer. >> i like that answer. this is a podcast interview that jd vance did, again, not that long ago. elizabeth dilling didn't succeed in shutting down the university of chicago or the university of michigan or ucla. the fascist activist allen zoll didn't succeed in getting harvard shut down when he tried -- tried it in 1949.

>> here he is saying they have to do really really radical things including the businesses in both jd vance and his interview are both clearly find this exciting. >> look, capital money itself is increasingly taking a side in the culture war. and i hate to say, it's not our side. it's not the side that i want to win. and unless you're willing to make these people feel economic pain, there's no serious way to fight back against it. the only way to push back against this stuff in a real way is to make these companies feel economic pain. and so there are a lot of ideas out there for how to do it. but if you're not recognizing in this moment how crazy things have gotten and how outside the box we need to think, then i think you're ultimately not really serious about taking back the country.

>> i agree we are in the late republican period. if were going to push back against it, we have to get pretty pretty wild and pretty far out there and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with. >> indeed, i got to say among some of my circle the phrase extraconstitutional has come up quite a bit. we have to take a much more aggressive muscular stance. were going to have to become a little bit more robust in our behavior. >> yes, that's exactly right. and, look, i think that what's so difficult about this moment for conservatives is that we love the country so much that we don't want to admit to ourselves how far gone things are, right? and i hear this from a lot of conservatives. look, it is still the best country in the world, but we're accelerating very, very quickly to a place that none of us want to go. and it's really time to wake up. >> keep talking about extraconstitutional. yes, yes, we're accelerating to a place we really don't want to go. we're in a late republican period. they keep talking about this.

he does it mean capital our republican buddy means were at the end of us being a republic. jd vance says not only do conservatives need to, in his words, wake up, but what they need to wake up to is the fact that most of american life and culture should be, in his words, ripped out like a tumor. those are again his words, not mine. watch. >> our leaders right now are so corrupt and so vile that, if you assimilate into their culture, you're assimilating into like garbage liberal elite culture. you're not assimilating into traditional american culture. and so i -- this is a tough, tough pickle for me. i don't even know what the right answer is here, because you can't just teach these things. you can't teach that we live in a great country if the leaders are actively aligned against it. so almost the thing that you need to do, step one in the process is to totally replace, like, rip out like a tumor the current american leadership class, and then reinstall some sense of american political religion.

>> we need to rip it out like a tumor and then install political religion. the man who is interviewing jd vance here gets very excited about this idea. and it leads, this is important here, it leads jd vance to explain sort of influences on his thoughts, where he gets his ideas on subjects like this. >> you said something that i would like to zero down on. how do we effectively quote rip out the disgusting leadership class? >> oh, man. i mean, you know >> because let me expand on that just a second. and i am going to give you a

little cover here. because it's not just, i mean, obviously elections, that's one thing, okay? but unfortunately this evil leadership class is already taken over all of our institutions. the current pipeline is to turn them into those people that we just called evil and disgusting. how do we, aside from elections, how do we rip out this leadership class? so these institutions are corrupted and rotted to the core. this elite ideology is everywhere and in all the things. what other options do we have besides voting them out, which we are seeing is ineffectual. >> yes. so again this is like a tough question. but this is maybe the question that confronts us right now. there is this guy curtis garvin who has written about some of these things. >> there's this guy curtis whose

written about some of these things. you're asking, hey, we don't want elections anymore. voting is ineffectual. we want to destroy the whole thing. we want to destroy not only the system of government but the whole american system like we are ripping out a tumor. how we do that specifically. whereupon vance says, gets, it's palpably uncomfortable, busies himself a little time -- bisons a little time and then says yes, there's this guy curtis who writes about the stuff. knowing chuckle from the interviewer. this is courtesy arvin -- -- curtis yarvin. >> so i have reduced this very complicated problem to a simple four letter acronym which is rage and it stands for retire all government employees, very very very simple. now, the problem with this is,

why have you never heard this before? why has no one ever suggested let's just get rid of this thing? you have a government in washington. you're either for or against it. what is a government? a government is just a corporation which owns a country, nothing more, nothing less. it so happens that our sovereign corporation is very poorly managed. and there's a very simple way to replace that, which is what we do to all the corporations that have failed. we simply delete them. we haven't been able to do that with our government for 200 years. so it's gotten a little bit stale. >> we should delete the u.s. government because it's stale. it has been around for too long. we haven't been able to do that, meaning delete, our government for 200 years, so it's gotten a bit stale. it's been around too long so what would that entail, deleting the u.s. government?

>> the other thing about getting rid of your government is you can't just say, well, the limits of the government are the limits of the formal government. you have to say, well, what is the system actually? and it includes a lot of things that are called ngos, things that are called universities, things that are funded by the state. it's a very, very large system. and it all needs to be destroyed. fortunately, there's a lot of talented americans who actually know how to run things and make things work and are generalists. and you can just get these people, put them in a position of responsibility, and have them do their thing. and, finally, you need a ceo. and a national ceo is what's called a dictator. it's the same thing. there's no difference between a ceo and a dictator. if americans want to change their government, they are going to have to get over their dictator phobia. >> "if americans want to change their government, they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia." so the vice presidential candidates debate is tomorrow.

tim walz, the democratic candidate, has been a governor, is currently the governor of minnesota. he's been a long term congressman, high school teacher, football coach, a soldier for decades. j.d. vance, the republican candidate, is a different kind of cat. forgive me. aside from a brief stint in the marine corps, where he served with a public affairs unit, he has spent his entire adult life working for or by working for or being financially supported by eccentric right-wing tech billionaires, specifically ones who have devoted themselves to the political teachings of this guy. >> finally, you need a ceo, and the national ceo is what's called a dictator. it's the same thing. >> i have debated whether or not to talk about this on the show because i feel like it like it gives me the feelings.

but i also feel like this is an important thing to know about the republican's vice presidential nominee and what he has to offer and why he was brought on to the ticket, despite his palpable lack of political skill or likability, his lack of any track record in politics whatsoever, and after he spent less than two years in the only public office he's ever held, which is a senate seat, that he only barely won thanks to one of those eccentric tech billionaires giving him the single largest senate campaign donation in the history of this country. i mean, he comes wholly from this very very obscure eccentric right wing subculture of tech billionaires. and his relationship with this eccentric silicon valley pro dictatorship philosophy has been pretty widely -- widely discussed in print. these are a whole bunch of articles that have discussed this at one level or another. it's been discussed in print, but i don't feel like it's widely understood by the country who is paying attention to this guy as a candidate. but this is where j.d. vance's big ideas come from about where the country is heading for -- quote -- "vance

is friends with curtis yarvin, whom he openly cites as a political influence," yarvin the main political influence on all of the people who have supported j.d. vance throughout his career, including paying to install him in the u.s. senate. when j.d. vance says stuff like, "we're in a late republican period," which is something he says all the time, he doesn't mean anything about the republican party. he means we're at the time right before the roman republic collapsed. and what happened after the roman republic collapsed? well, whew, a dictator, caesar, came in, and wasn't that better? he talks about being in a late republican period all the time. that's him channeling this guy, yarvin. when vance says universities are the enemy and they should be seized, he's not only channeling elizabeth dilling and allen zoll and all the weird far right crusaders against the universities from the '30s and '40s. that would be troubling enough. he's also channeling this guy yarvin, who says that, while we are firing all the government employees, we should do the same to the universities, because they're all part of the bigger system that all needs to be destroyed. he says -- quote -- "retire their employees and liquidate

their assets. universities in particular have lovely campuses, many of which are centrally located and should be quite attractive to developers," meaning let's put somebody in to be a, what does he call it, ceo, a national ceo, which he says is indistinguishable from a dictator, and then the dictator should take over all the universities and sell them off to developers. this is literally a pro- dictatorship, pro-monarchy philosophy that is not just about ending the u.s. system of government, deleting the u.s. government, but then using the power of a dictator to dismantle universities, dismantle businesses, to dismantle all of civil society, to instead install a whole new system controlled by the state that serves just the desires of the dear leader. tomorrow, at the debate, it is going to come up that j.d. vance wants a national abortion ban. it's going to come up that he has told and continues to tell horrible lies about immigrants. it is going to come up that he has said his running mate was america's hitler, his phrase, and cultural heroin, and that trump's presidency was a failure.

it's going to come up -- his involvement in project 2025 is going to come up, his proposal that people without children should be taxed more and should have their votes count less. it will all come up at tomorrow's debate. but what do you do with this stuff? >> the thing that you need to

do is, step one of the process is to totally replace, like, rip out, like a tumor, the current american leadership class. republicans, conservatives, we're still terrified of wielding power, of actually doing the job that the people sent us here to do. >> finally, you need a ceo, and a national ceo is what's called a dictator. it's the same thing. >> we have to get comfortable with wielding power. >> there's no difference between a ceo and a dictator. if americans want to change the government, they are going to have to get over there dictator phobia. >> going to have to get over there to tater phobia. what you do with this level of radicalism trying to take over washington right now and try to convince the far right that they have to stop being afraid of wielding this kind of power this way? what you do with this at the debate tomorrow, in the campaign in general? i don't know, but we have to do something with it. watch this space.

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happy monday, happy vice presidential debate eve. here is a sleeper issue i will watch for in tomorrow's debate. and the reason i bring this up tonight is because this issue is the subject of what i think is probably the best advertisement yet from the whole harris-walz campaign everywhere all year thus far. >> my husband and i are going through ivf treatments right

now. it could be our only chance to have a family, but donald trump's plan could ban ivf in some states. my husband is in the military. he volunteered to serve. we are patriots and we go where he is assigned. what if we end up in a state where ivf is no longer legal? what we do then? >> i am kamala harris, and i approve this message. >> what will be due then? despite trump claims the party is now totally cool with ivf and nobody has anything to worry about anymore, project 2025, the right wing blueprint created by trump allies for a second trump administration opens the door to banning fertility treatments and conservatives in alabama already tried it in the wake of that debacle in alabama and in washington dc in almost every single republican in the united states senate has voted twice against having federal legal protections for ivf and trump's running mate senator vance voted against it once and against protections for ivy up in the second time they voted on it he didn't even bother to show up for it and he called the bill ridiculous.

and for his vice presidential opponent, tim walz, he will face jd vance on the debate stage tomorrow. this issue is personal. tim walz and his wife gwen had their children after years of fertility treatments and it is something he has talked about openly and emotionally on the campaign trail and jd vance has accused him walz of lying about how his children were conceived and stay classy, senator. but i just want to highlight this and i think the harris- walz campaign has shown even with advertisements like this one, arguably their best out of the whole election so far, already showing that fertility treatment is deeply personal the so many american families and also incredibly potent as a political issue. so it is a sleeper, but one to watch for tomorrow night at the debate. we will be right back.

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but actually from the same courtroom, from the same judge at the center of both of these stories. the first one is an important abortion ruling. tonight, george's abortion ban was struck down. fulton county judge robert mcburney struck down george's six-week band after the conservative majority on the spring court overturned roe versus wade georgia started enforcing a de facto total ban on all abortions in the state, a ban on all abortions after six weeks. with this ruling again, abortion is now legal again in georgia. that man was in place long enough to lead directly to the deaths of at least two young women living in georgia, women who could not access the healthcare they needed to save their lives because of that abortion ban, so this milestone

ruling today getting rid of george's abortion ban, it is a really big deal on the facts and policy for the people of georgia. it is also just the first thing in what is starting out to be a big milestone week for that specific judge, for judge mcburney because tomorrow, at 9:00 a.m., he's going to oversee a bench trial which will be live screened -- live streamed, trial over new election rules that were recently passed by the maga majority of the county election board, one of which requires officials to conduct a reasonable inquiry before the certified and election result. the other one allows county officials to examine all election -related documentation before they certify a result. democrats behind the loss of that is going to be heard tomorrow say these rules could be used to upend the statutorily required process for certifying election results in georgia, but the georgia certification issue has been

off the rails ever since the pro-mega majority took over, of the state election board. that trial starts tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. it will be live streamed by the weight of fulton court.org, so that's going to be a really interesting way to start the day, the question, so much national focus on what george is doing essentially to mess with its own election processes before this allenport presidential election. we will be able to see those late changes to those processes get tested in a bench trial tomorrow live stream from the fulton county court. we will be watching that and then tomorrow night we will all be busy together. tomorrow night, join my colleagues and me here at msnbc for special coverage of the vice presidential debate starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern. our special coverage. the debate itself is hosted by cbs news but you can watch it here on msnbc with us. we will be showing the debate itself and have highlights in reaction and analysis right

after. coverage again starts here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we will all be here for the whole duration. >> rachel, the campaign it -- manager for the harris-walz team is going to join us to talk about the debate tomorrow. now, i know that jd vance was weird and i knew that even before tim walz told me that jd vance is weird but until i watched your program tonight, to say i didn't know the half of it -- i knew the tip of the iceberg, it turns out. i mean, the tip of the iceberg it's lot. it's rich, it's amazing. it's stranger than most politicians but what you reported on tonight is just stunning, and it left you, at a certain point, i noticed, i think it's fair to say speechless. it's like the commercial came just in time because like what else is there to say about this madness? >> i mean, there is a very traditional