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it's happening. switch to reliable comcast business internet with security and get started for $49.99 a month. plus ask how to get up to a $500 prepaid card. call today! welcome back. i'm jose diaz-balart alongside my colleague ana cabrera for another hour of special coverage after last night's vice presidential debate. both contenders and their running mates are across the country today after last night's big event. >> which may have marked the last time we see candidates from the 2024 presidential ticket go head to head on a debate stage. both vp contenders brought with them a midwestern nice feel. at times agreeing with one another, despite their stark policy differences. >> i agree with a lot of what senator vance said about what's happening. >> and i think i agree with you. you want to solve this problem. >> much of what the senator said right there, i'm in agreement

with him on this. >> first of all, i agree with you. >> i agree with that. >> first of all, tim just said something i agree with. >> nbc's jacob soboroff is live for us in battleground michigan. also with us, symone sanders townsend, co-host of "the weekend" here on msnbc. and david drucker, senior writer at "the dispatch" and mark mckinnon, former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. >> jacob, how are voters there in michigan reacting to what they saw last night? >> reporter: oh, jose, ana, they are reacting, i can assure you of that. there is a reason for that. jd vance will be not far away from where i am today in oakland county, michigan, and when you talk to people at oakland university, they'll tell you, you know, it is not one, two, or three days before one of the four candidates for president or vice president will come through here. oakland county, not an exaggeration to say, will be one of most consequential counties in the swing state come election

day. it was 100,000 vote swing from former president trump in 2016 to president biden in 2020. and even next door, macomb county, which leans republican, the student body populous at oakland university made up of largely young people from both of those key counties in michigan, all of these issues that we talk about day in and day out are on the minds of the young people. michigan had some of the largest youth voter turnout in 2020 midterm elections. gun violence was one of the issues. particularly because of the shooting at msu and in the high school nearby here back in 2021. there was a young woman, jimena, the student body president here at oakland university who brought up that issue in advance of the debate. after the debate, i wanted to ask her and her fellow students about how they reacted to the conversation about gun violence during the debate. here is what they said. what did you think when you heard jd vance talk about that? jimena was talking about how what happened at a neighboring

school here, it is an issue that rings close to home. >> i thought it was ridiculous. the issue was guns, not better locks on doors. >> reporter: so, you know, that was a notable and i think memorable exchange from the debate when senator vance was talking about the solution to gun violence being better locks on doors and stronger windows. it was something that i think certainly resonated with the voters here and all kinds of issues from reproductive rights to immigration that i think there is a strong response and it wasn't just in favor of the harris/walz campaign, but i think here on this campus, which is, like i said, largely democratic-leaning area, it certainly did resonate with them. >> and i guess the big question that so many lines as we try to read the tea leaves of where this campaign and this election cycle goes next is after last night's debate, did it move the needle at all in terms of anyone's vote? >> reporter: i think so. and you know what, there is one person i should ask that, come on in here, marcus.

marcus was on with me last night. he's gone somewhat viral this morning. come over here, marcus. marcus, live on msnbc, good to see you again on campus. ana cabrer was asking do you think the debate last night moved the needle at all for your fellow students or they came out of it with their minds made up. >> people were pretty resolved when they came in. no one had opinion changes. if you saw with the flags how we were doing, nobody deterred an opinion as much. people were decided going into it and leaving. >> reporter: marcus, good to see you. now the people of america knows who marcus is. he made a big impression last night. >> we played his clip last hour that has gone viral, the one you mentioned. we thank him for bringing us his civics lesson that he brought to the country last night. good to see you. >> reporter: thank you for the

civics lesson. >> you're welcome. >> so what were your takeaways from this debate last night? >> well, the main job of any vp candidate is to do no harm. i don't think either one did any harm. but from just a performance level, you have to give vance some credit. he was very polished, very smooth, walz looked very nervous, very jumpy. but the interesting thing, it seemed more like vance was just trying to rehabilitate his image as a nice guy, very civil debate. i don't think he did what -- the real mission that he had to do was to attack walz and to make clear his record was much more out of step with the mainstream america, which he didn't do. so, i think he helped himself with trump, he helped himself with maga, i don't think the debate changed any minds in the country. the vp debates rarely do. the vp candidates rarely do. i think the race is the same. i think vance helped himself with the debate, but not with undecided voters.

>> how do you see governor walz's performance? did he do what he needed to do for kamala harris and their campaign? >> i think two things can be right at the same time. i personally walked away from last night's debate thinking, okay, the strategy that the campaign had going into the debate about how, you know, when david said something that i want to counter, like, i agree with some of what david said, but instead of saying david made some interesting points. you can disagree and not be disagreeable. i think there was a little too much i agree with what so and so said. >> you think governor walz was doing that too much. >> i think there were too many niceties on both sides, from both of the candidates. jd vance, he stood up on the debate stage and he was building a platform of policy in real time. there were things he said that when it comes to child care, for example, that is not donald trump's plan. he articulated a housing plan i've never heard from the top of the ticket and vice presidential debates, that's not what they're there to do.

i do think that governor walz, he had some very strong moments. i think he started off shaky. but got stronger and the tim walz that people had seen out there during the veepstakes, he showed up on that debate stage later on and the clip, they're not going to watch it straight through like many of us did, the clip shown, the contrast of governor walz is great. so, i think that's good. i think if the campaign had taken one of them better at exchanges and flipped it into an ad, that january 6th exchange at the end, that's going to be important because there are some voters out there that need to hear more, they need to be reached, not just independent voters, democratic voters too. >> i don't recall ever a debate where one of the candidates describes himself as a knuckle head, unusual use of terms, but it was so much more civil. regardless of what the issues were, it seemed as though there was a lot more civility in the

discourse. is this a benefit for one side more than the other? >> i don't think so. but that's because, i think, you know, mark laid this out and so did symone, when you have a vice presidential debate, the only thing that matters is can people live with you being president for a couple of years should a tragedy occur and you have to assume the job. and walz got battered all around the stage for most of the night except for some good moments he had at times later in the debate. but when we look at the snap polls that occurred afterwards, voters actually thought better of him than we did. and there wasn't a moment or an extended period at all where people said, oh, no, no, no, no, this guy can't get anywhere near the oval office, that's one of the problems sarah palin had in 2008, it wasn't she was more conservative than john mccain or that she was young, younger, or a young governor, it is that

people looked at her and said, oh, my god, you couldn't do the job, not do it in a way i would disagree with, you can't do it. that's what tim walz and jd vance had to accomplish. jd vance accomplished that a lot better than tim walz, but i wonder if jd vance did himself a really big favor for 2028, whether or not he runs for the presidency. >> you're talking 2028. last night they were talking 2020, which the harris campaign turned into a campaign ad. let me play this for everybody who may have been sleeping and not watching last night. this is an exchange about the 2020 election and democracy. >> did he lose the 2020 election? >> tim, i'm focused on the future. did kamala harris censor americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation? >> that is a damning nonanswer. >> mark, i'm curious to get your take on that. how much would that exchange, do

you think, moved the needle as early voting gets under way for this election. mark? >> i'm sorry, i just had a dog incident here. the january 6th answer, i think that was -- i think that was the biggest moment of the debate. i think it is a disqualifying moment for vance. at the end of the day, he made it clear that his only -- his ultimate fealty is to donald trump and not the american voters. and if you can't -- walz's line about the fact this is why mike pence isn't here was a big moment of the debate. >> and jacob was speaking with the students about gun violence, et cetera. there was another interesting moment last night at the debate, governor walz recounted his son's experience with witnessing gun violence firsthand. take a listen to this. >> well, i think all the parents watching tonight, this is your

biggest nightmare. i got a 17-year-old, and he witnessed a shooting at a community center playing volleyball. those things don't leave you. >> tim, first of all, i didn't know your 17-year-old witnessed a shooting. i'm sorry about that. >> i appreciate that. >> christ have mercy. it is awful. >> how do you see that moment? >> first of all, i thought it was -- jd vance did something that donald trump never would have done, empathy, that is absolutely awful. i think what was important, the moment after that where jd vance is, like, this shouldn't be happening, we should be able to do something. yes. and yet policies put on the table by one of the candidates on this -- one of the tickets, the democrats, and then there is what republicans want to do, like, this is the rhetoric i think -- i think jd vance got a lot of foul points for the rhetoric. if you came into this debate or you -- maybe you're watching the clips and you don't know much about jd vance and don't know

much about governor tim walz, i think you walked away from seeing some clips saying, i like governor walz. like, well, jd vance is the same -- they say democrats and other folks say he's kind of an extremist. didn't seem that way on the debate stage. is that going to win or lose the election? no. but this is a point on a timeline in a story that is being told. and voters are going to have to make a decision and i do think that a number of things that transpired last night, they matter. how the campaigns and candidates use the clips coming out of that debate, how they amplify the messages, it matters. >> one thing that jd vance kept coming back to, so forget about -- let's talk about substance, david, he kept on bringing everything back to being a problem with immigrants or migrants, whether it was housing or issues with school resources, or crime, obviously, the whole springfield part of

the conversation. why did everything come back to immigration? >> because it registers with voters. you talk to voters left, right and center, in the battleground states, especially in battleground states that are not border states, which are most of them, and they look at the situation at the border and whether you agree with them or not, they don't like what they see, they have not liked president biden's management of the border. and it is a very good issue for republicans to run on. in fact, donald trump has done his own effort and disservice by getting caught up in springfield, and the dogs and the cats and all that crazy stuff, because he has a case to make that the management and security at the border were better when he was president, and if he could get out of his own way, there are voters very, very open to that, and that's why jd vance did that. it is a huge vulnerability. >> the lack of donald trump telling republicans not to sign a deal is something i think -- >> which is another way in which he couldn't get out of his own

way. if he would have said, sure, sign it, we'll do the best we can now and come back for more, the number one way in which vice president harris has been able to undercut the president, the former president's argument on the border is how republicans and him handled that border security bill and it might end up being the thing that loses the election. >> i want to re-emphasize, if i could, that when we're speaking about the haitian community in the united states, it is a hard-working, honest, comes to contribute and only gives pluses, no minuses. it is important to always state that. >> there is a reason why senator rick scott in florida has had nothing critical to say about what is going on in springfield. and about the haitian community. they vote in florida. and florida republicans are very aware of that. >> thank you very much. symone sanders townsend, michael drucker, thank you. the middle east on edge after a missile attack on israel. what an official told nbc news about plans for retaliation.

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ballistic missiles at israel yesterday. most of those missiles were intercepted including by u.s. forces in the region. >> overnight, israel launched new strikes in lebanon, israel says it is targeting hezbollah. and right now u.n. security council holding an emergency meeting on the middle east. >> joining us now, richard haass, president emeritus of the council on foreign relations. with us, retired admiral james stavridis. so, richard, i heard you earlier here on msnbc say you see this as a turning point moment in the middle east. can you explain what you mean? >> up to now, most of the focus recently has been on israel and its relationship with the palestinians. for the last 50, 60 years, most recently over the last 12 months with hamas. now we have seen things spread to the northern border, very intensely with hezbollah, and obviously state to state conflict between israel and iran, that's a qualitatively

different thing. >> admiral, i'm wondering, is israel needing to respond to this massive missile attack, nearly 200 missiles yesterday. it is almost like is this one other step on the ladder of escalation? >> unfortunately it is. and let's start with those 200 missiles, those were all ballistic missiles, super high speed, they go from iran to hitting in israel, in ten minutes, 12 minutes, very difficult to defend against. iron dome doesn't do it. it is a hard air defense problem. so, israel is exactly right, is going to respond, the agree to which they respond will determine whether this is in fact a turning point or whether there is still a climbdown available here. if you ask me to put odds on it, i think there is a 25% chance

that this turns into a wider war, that being one that involves iran moving even more force against israel, israel striking directly against iran in the distinct possibility of the united states getting pulled into it. one in four. that's uncomfortably high. >> yes, it is. i want to bring in raf sanchez from northern israel. you have new reporting on a potential response by israel. what do you know? >> reporter: yeah, we're actually at an elementary school in central israel and i just want to start by walking you through the scene here. one of those 181 iranian ballistic missiles came crashing down right here. this was a 10-foot crater. israeli crews have since filled it up. but the force of that explosion blasting through the walls and windows of this classroom. and i just want to walk you through this frankly kind of ghostly scene. you can see along here are the

faces of the children who studied in here, 8, 9 years old, along the back wall, some of the pictures still, white boards where they were studying, english lessons going on here. as you walk around, just the crunch of glass under foot, which makes you think if this iranian missile had come down when there were children in here, what could have happened. the strike happened late at night. this classroom was empty. miraculously almost the israeli government is saying there are no reports of anyone killed or injured in israel as a result. there was one palestinian man in the occupied west bank killed by part of a falling missile. the question now how, when, and at what scale will israel retaliate. prime minister benjamin netanyahu today meeting with his military and intelligence chief, making very clear israel will respond and israeli officials telling me a little earlier today this response will come swiftly. it will be a matter of days and

israel is determined to make the point that this kind of attack will not go unanswered. >> the achievement of a country protecting itself from 180 missiles as the admiral was saying, these are missiles that are shot and ten minutes later reached their target, how extraordinary is that? how is israel able to do this? >> well, a lot of help from the united states as it was u.s. intelligence that first attacked, that iran was preparing to launch this attack and then there were u.s. navy destroyers in the greater middle east that helped intercept some of the incoming. but you're right, what there was a major attack back in april by iran on israel, they fired 300 ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones, those drones are very slow moving. israel had about nine hours heads up that this attack was under way, that was not the case

yesterday, about ten minutes, 11 minutes in between those missiles being fired and entering israeli air space, a lot of this was the iron dome, missile defense system taking down some of the incoming, the israeli warplanes in the skies taking out others, but, jose, classrooms like this are the most visible aftermath of this strike. what we do not yet know at this point is how many of those iranian missiles got through and hit sensitive places like israeli military air bases. guys? >> all right, thank you so much, raf sanchez, for that reporting. that 12-foot crater, that really does give you a sense of how powerful these weapons are. so, what can bring down the temperature at this point, richard? we know diplomatically there has to be talks happening behind the scenes. we know israel came to the aid or u.s. came to the aid of israel in this particular attack to defend israel, but the u.s. has been adamant, escalation is not going to de-escalate the

situation. so who is israel listening to? anybody? >> the goal may not be to de-escalate the situation. israel has real strategic concerns with hezbollah. they don't want an iranian-backed army on its border, making it possible for tens of thousands of its citizens to live in their homes. and israel doesn't, shall we say, want to continue with an iran that pressures israel to its proxies with impunity. and now is attack israel directly for the second time. israel is going to respond and it should respond. the united states potentially can shave some of its choices about the scale of the response, the nature of the targets as if the nuclear, energy targets, this is just conventional military targets where they make and restore various missiles. the u.s. can have influence there. israel is going to respond in order to essentially tell the iranians you attack us at your peril. and you can -- you're going to now pay an enormous price and

deterrence needs to be resorted. >> what does the iranian regime have in its arsenal? >> it has first and foremost this is a huge country, its population is about 90 million. just there is a little bit of tendency to think of israel, correctly, as the strongest military power in the region. but over time those demographics are going to be very weighty on the side of the iranians. in terms of military capability, thousands more ballistic missiles in iran, over 100,000, probably 150,000 various service to service missiles staged in lebanon, 40,000 manned army as richard says on the northern border. that is hezbollah. the iranians have a capable navy, submarines, they have aircraft that can really deliver a punch. all of that, together, mounts a

real threat to israel. i think the germain question is what should the israelis do. they got to continue the fight to the north, take apart that clear and present danger, get their civilians back in that border region and then the deterrent piece of this is going to require israel doing long range strike, probably a kinetic operation, might be some cyberinvolved, might be some special forces, but i think the heart of it will be long range strike against a nuclear program. i'm less inclined to think they'll go after energy because of what it will do to global energy markets. we'll know more as raf said in a matter of days when they show the degree to which they want to go to. >> thank you for being with us. still ahead, what we're expecting when vice president harris heads to georgia to see the damage from hurricane helene

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31 past the hour. the death toll from helene is up to 175 people. making it the second deadliest hurricane to hit the u.s. in 50

years. the crisis is still unfolding in at least ten states, millions of people as we speak without power, access to water or cell service is almost an impossibility. >> later this hour, president biden will head to the carolinas to survey the storm damage there, while vice president harris will go to georgia. in tennessee, the desperate search for those missing is growing more urgent. >> marissa parra is with us from irwin. what are you seeing there today? >> reporter: jose and ana, i can tell you right now we're sitting in front of what was a church, still is a church, but part of it is completely ripped out by what is now a very small and peaceful looking river over to my shoulder. so this river grew to such a large size and with twice the speed of niagara falls. it was that power and intensity that did the damage that you see behind me.

clearly that recovery, that cleanup, just beginning here, but, remember, as this is happening here behind me, there is still active search and rescue and recovery happening around us. our crews spotted rescue teams, search teams just down the road from where we are. it was in that building that we have done a lot of coverage, impacts. this is a factory. there has been a lot of coverage of the people that were inside, the stories of the workers inside, clinging to a pickup truck, some of them lost their holding on that pickup truck and got swept away and they are among so many who are missing and unaccounted for at the moment. and so, this is something that is so hard to illustrate because there are so many stories just like this one down the road, and you're looking at pictures of some of those who remain missing from that factory and, by the way, the tennessee bureau of investigation has begun an investigation on this. we just got confirmation from the attorney general, because

some of the survivors, there is a lot of anger from survivors and the family members of those who are missing because they say workers were forced to not only continue to work, but they weren't given the proper notice. i think there is a lot more that will come out on what happened at this specific factory here, guys. but the devastation is felt everywhere you go. here on the ground, you can't escape it. even people whose homes are untouched or feeling it, they're out here pitching in, they're donating water, donating their time, and so i want to take you to what we heard from the pastor of this church. here is what he told us not long ago. >> the heart of this community, and all communities, people just want to pour in and help. and it is amazing. there is still people that are hurting, missing, people unaccounted for, not just in our community, but others. and so just prayer. it is a hard time, nobody is ever going through anything like this. showing up is the most important thing. letting people know that you care. because that's -- when everything is gone, people, that's what we have. >> i can tell you, i have spoken

to local emergency management here in tennessee, fema is on the ground here in the state, but i can tell you, i'll echo what some of my colleagues have been reporting, that frustration on the ground, that they're not seeing what they feel is the proper help that they need. a lot of small mountain towns, i've spoken to so many people who tell me, a friend, a cousin, an old neighbor still needing help at the top of some remote mountain somewhere. i have also seen and heard the stories of so many people, locals, even across the state, someone from kentucky drove down to donate their time. there is a lot of locals pitching in to help. asking for anyone who is watching, if they can donate, whatever it could be, whatever it might be, whether it is money or time, asking for the help however you can. >> thank you for that eloquent and important live shot, really appreciate it. >> sounds like such a nightmare there. thank you, marissa. what donald trump says he'll do about a national abortion ban if he's elected. l abortion ban if he's elected.

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welcome back, jd vance conceded republicans need to do a better job when talking about abortion and women. >> as a republican, who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, my party, we got to do so much better of a job at earning the american people's trust back on

this issue, where they frankly just don't trust us. >> while that accused democrats of taking what he calls a radical pro abortion stance, during the debate, trump posted on social media, quote, and in all caps, i would not support a federal abortion ban under any circumstances and would, in fact, veto it. >> joining us now, nbc's garrett haake and nbc's ryan nobles, who is in augusta, georgia, where the vice president will be this afternoon. >> so, garrett, how do you think this post from trump opposing now a federal abortion ban in all caps will sit with the base? >> well, look, i think trump supporters are just as eager as donald trump is to change the subject off of abortion. poll after poll has shown this is a losing issue for republicans. jd vance is right. the republican party does not know how to talk to women, does not know how to talk about this issue in a way that is uniting to the country, and they're getting clobbered on it, so i think anything they can do to

change the subject back to issues where they are more comfortable is where they want to be. the most conservative antiabortion groups have made very clear their frustration with donald trump over this issue. but they're also not going to turn their people out to vote for kamala harris either. so i think for republicans, the less they can be talking about abortion, the better, and i think that's what you saw from donald trump last night, an issue of saying, look, you want me to veto it, fine, i'll veto it and let's move on. >> he hasn't taken a position that he hasn't been changed. >> that's right. donald trump -- over the course of the political career, and prior to that, even his public career, if you will, donald trump has taken every conceivable position on abortion, he's been quite comfortable changing it with the times. recently he's landed on this idea of letting the states decide, he thinks that keeps his hands clean. democrats think that means he owned every state restrictive measures and they're trying to use it against him. >> let's talk about what the vice president is up to today. ryan, you're there in georgia, what can we expect from her visit there? >> well, we expect the vice

president to be here in the next couple of hours, visiting augusta, georgia, which is one of the hardest hit areas in this important state. and augusta was really not prepared for the onslaught that they received around hurricane helene. we will see the vice president make a number of stops here while in augusta, meet with the victims impacted by everything, get a briefing from the officials here to see exactly how the federal response is working to try and connect with the people here that need the most help. as you can see behind me, everywhere you turn there is devastation, houses that have had trees fall on them, there is spotty power outages throughout the state, and cell service is very difficult. and there is a sense as you had in your previous report from marissa parra that the federal response has been a little bit lacking in certain areas. and so i think what the vice president wants to do here and we see the president in this area demonstrate that the biden administration is on top of this, that they are connecting with these people that need their help the most. and, of course there is a little benefit to this as well, because

this has become an issue in the campaign, and both vice president harris and president biden want to make sure that the voters and what is really two critical swing states of georgia and north carolina that were heavily impacted by this storm, that their concerns are being heard and the federal government is taking action. >> i want to ask you about this weird back and forth we saw last night on x between 60 minutes and the trump campaign. we have been talking about debates and will there be a second debate. they're discussing if there will be this interview with 60 minutes. >> they said they interviews both kamala harris and donald trump as they often do toward the end of an election season. harris is still on, trump pulled out. "60 minutes" said this was something locked in and trump has backed out of. the trump people say, no, we never fully agreed to this, but an interesting twitter post, the one i think you're referring to here from steven chung, a spokesperson for the trump campaign, he adds this line about fact checking that cbs wanted to do that he said would be unprecedented and part of what they opposed here.

very interesting in the context of vance complaining about fact checking last night, donald trump complaining about the fact checking in the previous presidential debate. this is not something the trump campaign is comfortable with. they want unfettered access to viewers. they don't like the idea that anybody else is going to call them out on things that need to be fact checked. >> thank you, both, so very much. >> how dare we do our jobs as journalists, right? up next, as israel vows revenge for iran's missile attack, we'll dig deep near the earner workings of iran's regimes and the capabilities. mayor eric adams in federal court, is he facing additional charges? we're live outside the courthouse with the very latest. e courthouse with the very latest.

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