good day. i'm chris jansing live in new york city. the first day of the final campaign sprint. j.d. vance and tim walz both back on the road today with the last major one-on-one before the election, now in the rear view mirror. but setting the stage after what we saw last night. plus, are our worst fears of a wider war in the middle east now realized? as we speak, israel is weighing retaliation for iran's missile barrage even as tehran says it

is prepared to hit back even harder. where does it all end? and from the president to the pack mules, where does it end with hurricane helene? with hundreds still missing and more than a million without power, how long does it take? we start with the vp candidates, both on the campaign trail after a late debate night. tim walz in pennsylvania, j.d. vance in michigan. the question now, did the debate chock full of midwestern nice, move the needle even marginally in a campaign where margins are everything? >> walz was sort of like placating to the people. and vance was dancing around questions. my opinion on things hasn't changed too much tonight. if you were to say who won

tonight, i would say tim walz won would everybody say walz won this debate? a show of hands. no pressure. >> so now with votes already coming in, what does this mean for the final 34 days? to reassess any strategies moving forward? i want to bring in the host of crooked days podcast. mark short was chief of staff to vice president pence and is a contributor to "meet the press." and vaughn hillyard is here with me. what are we hearing from the campaigns about how they think this debate might or won't impact everything going forward? >> for the trump campaign, j.d. vance executed on what they wanted him to do. that was, mark knows better than myself here, having worked for the former vice president mike

pence, sometimes explaining a way for donald trump can be a little difficult. and will j.d. vance came back, he came back with actual facts. a lot of them were very distorted. >> or just not facts. >> or just not facts. but issues like health care and abortion, he came out with answers. so for the trump campaign's perspective, look, donald trump is going to be able to turn out the maga faithful. but some of the independent voters, j.d. vance came what he came to do. to make the case appealable, then perhaps donald trump sometimes is able to --

>> so governor walz was in many ways governor walz. he's a likable guy. and we heard a lot of that afterwards. he also seemed to leave some real openings on the table. he didn't travel about cat ladies, no mention of 2025. only once. but j.d. vance wrote the forward for that 900-page document. do you think there were missed opportunities? what does tim walz's performance mean going forward? >> for all the things tim walz said, he hit the nail on the head with that last question when he asked him, did donald trump win the 2020 election and j.d. vance did not answer. he obfuscated. he said he's looking forward as if january 6th didn't happen. he said he's looking for a peaceful transfer of power and that's something they've been

running on spliced with trump supporters attacking the capitol on january 6th. so again, there was a buffet before tim walz. but he hit j.d. vance directly where it hurt. that clip will be something that continues to circulate in chats. it will continue to be shared across dms, across social media. that is an issue that we know voters are paying attention to across party lines. when we talk about protecting our rights, that is something independents want to be shored up. even as the debate moderators posed the question, you called for alternate electors, there was no solid response. j.d. vance was performing for donald trump where tim walz was speaking directly to the voters. >> what folks just saw was vice president harris at joint base andrews. she's on her way to georgia to survey some of the damage from

helene. since she brought it up, let me play that moment where walz did press vance on january 6th. >> this is one that we are miles apart. on this was a threat to our democracy in a way that we had not seen. and it manifested itself because of donald trump's inability. he is still saying he didn't lose the election. did he lose the 2020 election? >> tim, i'm focused on the future. did kamala harris censor americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation? >> that's a damning nonanswer. >> i wonder, mark, what you make of vance's response. how many undecided voters prioritized what democrats and frankly your old boss have said that this whole election is about democracy and preserving democracy? >> i think reality is it is a tight election. even if that's not a huge number, it can be a persuasive

constituentsy. i think j.d. vance was very comfortable. he was able to tackle a lot of issues. he prosecuted a case against the biden-harris administration in ways that trump did not on the border security issues. on the economy. i thought vance had an exceptional night. to the last question, look, i've said this before. i feel that j.d. vance should ask for a refund from yale law school if that's what he believes on constitutional law. i think the reality is he seemed uncomfortable discussing that despite the rest of it being comfortable and i think that's an issue that still hangs over the election right now. >> so answer a question for me which i don't understand. which is, he knew it was coming. this is not a surprise, right? we saw him in the rest of the debate that he was prepared. but he did not seem prepared for that. is he thought that would work? >> i don't know.

my sense was, he actually intended to say, look, i'm talking going the future, not the past. i know much of the rest of the focus was focused on prosecuting the case in the last four years so that's a little bit in contrast. he said, i would have sent it back. i would have asked to do something different. hospital in vice president in the history of our vice presidents has ever done. and nor will kamala harris say i will selectively choose which states i do not accept their certification and i'll send back. so it's not a strong argument. maybe the best thing to do is to say i'm focused on the future. overall, a i thought vance had a really, really strong night aside from that ending of the debate. >> let's talk about how it started. facts around the world probably changed what the first question was and it turned out to be about the middle east and asked where they would support a

preemptive strike. here's what happened. >> iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of donald trump's fickle leadership. when iran shot down the aircraft in international air space, donald trump tweeted. that's standard for donald trump. when iranian missile does fall near u.s. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, donald trump wrote it off as headaches. >> i think that's something governor walz should say is quite extraordinary. you just said iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been and governor walz, you blamed donald trump. who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years? the answer is your running mate. not mine. >> did that work? >> no. >> the look on your face. your face says it all. >> absolutely not. i feel like j.d. vance might need not only that refund from high school but go back to civics class. who they control is not the vice

president. i also think tim walz was explicitly smart to hit donald trump on something we know the world is watching. his leadership as commander in chief and the way he behaved in terms of diplomatic relations globally. so poorly. and the way that it reflected back on the united states because global powers and leaders are watching this election closely. and they don't want a return back to the diplomacy by tweet model. they don't want to return back to donald trump embarrassing them or attempting to embarrass them in press conferences or say the wrong thing about the direction that the united states should be going. so of course, that answer from j.d. vance does not work. we know who the control is, president biden, not kamala harris. she does not have those powers. >> let me ask you another question. tim walz, when he was pressed on explaining why he was in china for the tiananmen square

protests of 1989, which has been proved not to be true. here it is. >> look. my community knows who i am. they saw where i was at. look, i will be the first to tell you, i have poured my heart into my community. i've tried to do the best i can. i've not been perfect. i'm a knuckle head at times. >> the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? >> all i said was i got there that summer and misspoke on this. so i will just, that's what i've said. >> was that the kind of answer -- >> yes -- >> the best answer he could have given? >> i feel like he should have started with i misspoke and that could have been it. i don't think he needed to go into any kind of obfuscation about my community knows me. >> in debate prep, they knew that was coming. did they overthink it? >> it sounds like overthinking

with tim walz. sometimes he stumbles over his words. he gets a little anxious or uncomfortable in front of the lights and the big stage and this would have a very simple i misspoke and that could have been it. as simple as what we've seen the vice president do in response to questions, especially when it was outlandish things about her race as a asian woman. that slfb the play. >> on the democratic side, there have been some rumblings, they think that both tim walz and kamala harris need to be out there more, answering questions, press conferences. kamala harris will do 60 minutes but donald trump has decided not to. >> folks who recalled back to 2020, right before the election, he walked out of his "60 minutes" interview with leslie

staal. yesterday he was asked about his decision not to take part in the interview set to take place monday night as kamala harris is doing. and he said that he first wants an apology from cbs for that october 2020 interview when he says that the issue of hunter biden's laptop came up and leslie dismissed it during the interview saying they were not able to authentic ate its legitimacy which in part led him to walk out of the interview. fast forward, donald trump has been very reticent to sit down and do interviews. for all the brief that kamala harris, legitimate grief, that she's been given for not doing interviews. donald trump has only done two actual interviews. the cnn town hall in may 2023, and then with our own kristin welker on "meet the press" in september. so donald trump has avoided the one-on-one situations. i was at a press conference with

him yesterday. those environments are tougher to follow up with questions. and he is taking questions but they're not the same as doing a prolonged interview. donald trump making a decision, clearly. >> time will only tell. thank you for coming on. coming up, a region on edge after iran's missile attack on israel. why multiple newspapers say the dreaded war in the middle east is now here. in 90 seconds. is now here. in 90 seconds. nts move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪♪ at humana, we believe your healthcare should evolve with you, and part of that evolution means choosing the right medicare plan

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israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is vowing iran will pay after the missile attack. that means as "the new york times" puts it, the wider war in the middle east is here. moments ago, president biden spoke to reporters about what is next. >> we made it clear that things would have to be done. obviously, iran has gone, i mean, is way off. >> all of this as netanyahu is coordinating the country's next move, meeting with the security chiefs at military headquarters. reporting from just outside tel aviv, also with me, the council

general. i know you're right next to where one of the iranian missiles landed. nobody was injured as a result of the attack. there was a palestinian man in the west bank who was killed by shrapnel that came crashing down. the question now, how, when, at what scale will israel retaliate? as up, prime minister netanyahu asked the defense ministry earlier today, he was meeting with the head of the israeli military, the head of the mossad spy agency, they were discussing this response and israeli

officials tell me the israeli retaliation will come swiftly. this is a question of when, not if. it is a matter of days, they are saying. one slight complication to the calendar here, the sun is already down here in israel. we are into rosh hashana, the jewish new year. there are several other jewish holidays coming up in the next week or so. the israeli government would prefer not to create a situation where there is high tension over the holidays. but at this point, they are figuring out how and when to respond and you can bet that there will be potentially quite difficult conversations with the united states. the biden administration has said that israel, that iran, rather, needed to be held accountable for last night's attack. at the same time, president biden has been very clear, he does not want to see that all-out regional war that you described and is likely to be counseling restraint. especially given the fact that

no israeli civilians were killed during the attack. >> as those decisions are being made, is the sense on the ground that that long-feared wider war is now here? >> reporter: you look at the map of the middle east, this war that started on october 7th in israel and gaza has spread and spread and spread. israeli forces have launched an offensive into southern lebanon against hezbollah. eight israeli soldiers killed earlier today. those are the first casualties of this new israeli assault designed to end 11 months of hezbollah rocket fire into northern israel. you've seen the israeli air force strike well over a thousand miles away in yemen against the houthis in responsibility to missiles fired from there. the occupied west bank is aflame. lots of violence there including against palestinian civilians. against israeli civilians.

you saw seven israelis killed in tel aviv last night by two gunmen who came from the southern west bank. and then on top of that all, this wave of iranian missiles coming into israeli air space taking just 11 minutes to cover that nearly 1,000 miles from iran to israel. and the region truly on the brink as we wait to see what that israeli response will look like and whether it will tip the middle east over into all-out war. >> thank you for that. ambassador, as we talk about a swift response, perhaps in a matter of days, the "wall street journal" suggested this. this is an act of war against a sovereign state and it warrants a response targeting the military and nuclear assets. this is iran's second missile barrage since april and no country can let this become a new normal. if they were to strike nuclear facilities, could that potentially tip this conflict out of control?

and in fact, ultimately be more dangerous for israel? >> absolutely. not only that, chris, but it would probably drag the u.s. into this. and i already saw a statement by assistant secretary of state kurt campbell saying that the u.s. is preparing a response. now this is something that the biden administration has, for the last, for the better part of last year said is prime interest, preventing or averting a conflag rags and an escalation. it seems that everyone here is caught in an escalating spiral. israel is saying that it would retaliate against a retaliation that iran said it would retaliate against an israeli retaliation. >> where does it end? >> where does it end? what are the political goals? what will you achieve or will we devastate each other? two, three nights down the road,

we'll find ourselves in the same place. i know the u.s. is trying to prevent that. the u.s. until now has been very unsuccessful in doing that. just a few days ago, if you recall, and i'm sure you do, the the u.s. was proudly bragging that the 21-day cease-fire in lebanon is imminent. well, it's not. >> so you heard raf talk about quite difficult conversations going on between the u.s. and israel. you've been inside these conversations before. take us inside what you imagine they're like right now. >> well, president biden is pissed for lack of a better and more elegant word. he's been disappointed and disillusioned by his constant, what the americans called, deceit and manipulation for the better part of last year. it was about the use, the employment of force and certain munitions in gaza. it was about the operation.

it was israel's defiance to engage gaza. then it went to the de-escalation in lebanon which to be fair is hezbollah's 100% responsibility. nonetheless, the u.s. is unhappy with the level of defiance that mr. netanyahu is showing. furthermore, in the last three or four months, there's been a realization amongst some in the administration that mr. netanyahu is trying to drag this and turn this into a wedge issue in the u.s. presidential election, attempting to somehow benefit his friend donald trump. >> is it also possibly, he believes, strengthening his hand domestically? >> absolutely. the farther he gets from october 7th, the calamity and the debacle of october 7th, 2023, he feels better. you have to understand, we don't have time to develop this as it

warrants, but in netanyahu's mind there is some kind of a parallel universe and a parallel narrative in which this is not about hamas attacking on october 7th but this is a civilizational war. what he calls a 360-degree circle and puts it in an existential threat. this is iran and the west bank and hamas and gaza and hezbollah in lebanon and militias in iraq and militias in syria and the houthis. for him, of course it serves his political survival instincts. >> thank you so much. i do want to let people know, right now at the state department in washington, d.c., matt miller, our spokesperson for the statement, said if there's any question about this, we said this was an unprecedented escalation by iran. israel has a right to respond. we'll continue to listen in to

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within the next hour, president biden and vp harris will both visit communities reeling from hurricane helene.

the president waited so his visit wouldn't complicate the initial disaster efforts, and now recovery services are up and running. everything from planes dropping supplies to emergency outdoor hospital tents to this pack of mountain mules trained by the marines and now traversing damaged roads to carry insulin to diabetics. every disaster is a test of confidence for an administration. never more so than in an election year. msnbc's sam brock is there. how are things looking today? what does that community need most right now? >> as you said, we're about 15, 20 minutes outside of asheville. this is a working class community. affordable housing is generally in this part of the valley and what you're seeing is complete disruption. let me give you a snap shot of what the president will be looking at today. when he's having conversations with local officials, people are

being told their water may take between weeks and up to six months to activate running water. electricity, days for some people. we're seeing poles being pulled out. it will be way longer than that. you can see this car. you've covered so many disasters. it's been it indicates there's no one inside. there's a shed, it is just stacked together from the velocity of this water. on the other side of that, you can make it out on the utility truck. that is just one little portion of a side of a home looking into the streets on one block. as we keep going down this direction, the mud was all the way up to, honestly, roof level. you can see this entire car is covered in mud. there is a couple just living inside. most things are not salvageable. they're looking for birth

certificates, pictures of loved ones, marriage licenses. these are the things they're trying to recover. 175 people now killed across six states. that's is what is confirmed. it has risen from 40 to 57 in one county. the water right now on the ground, such an urgent problem. here is a bit of my conversation with a couple folks about how they're dealing with it. >> you don't realize how thirsty you are. you get home and you put your faucet on, brush your teeth, you have to spit in the sink. you have to use your good water to rinse your sink out. it's very critical. >> we've got a baby. he eats oatmeal, you know. he's a priority for us. >> is it a life line right now? >> absolutely. >> one of many questions that fema is facing today as the president comes to town, the amount of time that has elapsed between when the storm really

struck and the response. we're talking about things like water which was first available on monday about 48 hours after. we've learned that president biden headed right to the state department to activate 22 helicopters to reach the really remote treacherous areas where there were private nonprofit disaster relief companies flying their old planes to get supplies in. these are the things. where are the resources the community wants answers to? >> sam brock. we now know that climate change likely strengthened hurricane helene, now one of the deadliest, costliest storms in u.s. history. climate change made this storm 20% wetter. another found it brought 50% more rain for the region. helene's death toll now stands at 175. hundreds are still unaccounted for. one man told our tennessee station that he's trying to keep up hope in the search for his 60-year-old father. >> a complete feeling of

helplessness. i don't lose hope very easily. i'm still holding on to it a little bit but it's starting to dwindle. his father one of 46 people currently missing in tennessee. up next, what the white house and pentagon are doing right now behind the scenes to try to de-escalate the situation in the middle east. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. on msnbc. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd, things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improvement, and reduced flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis.

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right now the biden white house is desperately trying to turn down the temperature in the middle east. the challenge, an israeli official telling nbc news that they will, quote, retaliate swiftly. the devil is in the details. we have just a short time ago shown matt miller at the state department right now and he said that this is an unprecedented escalation and israel has a right to respond. but what is the u.s. actually saying to israel? >> well, i mean, there is a huge spectrum of how the response could be, right? if you talk about things that get at the kind of core stability of the iranian regime, you know, strikes on their nuclear facilities, strikes on their oil facilities. then i think you're talking

about an even further dramatic escalation. and we've seen this tit-for-tat escalation. if you're talking about a strike on some iranian revolutionary guard position inside iran or other parts of the region, that is a more proportional controlled escalation here. i think the bigger problem is that where is this all going? and we could talk about what is this response to that response to this issue that took place. the problem i think for the administration is, all that has happened is escalation. and at some point, absent the cease-fire in gaza, the anchor of what has been this entire conflict, you'll be living with a tremendous am of risk. >> that is a fact. i was just talking about this with ambassador alon pinkas. israel has called for a cease-fire and the release of the hogs. does the white house have any power in this? >> right now it doesn't feel

like they have a lot. candidly, they have made a decision over the course of this conflict to not really use leverage, substantive leverage on the israeli government to try to compel that cease-fire deal. to say, for instance, they're going to be some conditions on military systems. you have the u.s. taking positions in diplomacy and private channels. sometimes it comes out publicly. we don't want to see an escalation in lebanon west want to see a cease-fire for a hostage deal in gaza. but what prime minister netanyahu knows is, that assistance will keep flowing and therefore, he's the one in the driver's seat. the administration is kind of along for the ride. and that is just the dynamic. right now, the people driving events are principalbly the

iranian government. the u.s. is trying to persuade more than it is prying to push the outcome. that is just the status quo that we've been in for a while now in the middle east. >> there are a couple of things going on that could influence what happened. potentially. for example, hezbollah hasn't provided any details about the funeral of its leader, hassan nasrallah. but diplomatic and military sources in the region are suggesting that timed with that, there could be violence. how and where that would manifest itself, we don't know. is that something that the u.s. is watching closely? >> what i'm watching closely is the vacuum in lebanon. so hezbollah, it's not clear who he will replace. it's not just nasrallah who was killed. the entire leadership cohort was largely decimated. so who is even making the

decisions for hezbollah? some people talked about negotiating, the administration was talking days ago about negotiating a cease-fire in lebanon. i'm not sure who is answering the phone for that hezbollah, given that all the phones blew up. and so in the meantime, you have no government really, you have lebanon that has been pretty absent. you have people who hated lebanon inside lebanon. there's the potential question around how succession happens in hezbollah. what hezbollah is in a post nasrallah era. and yes, i think you look at events like the nasrallah funeral. what i worry about for israel's security is not just things like the ballistic missiles but we saw the terrorist attack yesterday. i think as this becomes more of a violent situation across the region, the potential for approximaties and other parts of the region to be activated.

nasrallah had ties in iraq. maybe target u.s. diplomatic facilities or u.s. forces in iraq. do you see more one-offer terrorist attacks into israel? as well as this state to state escalation in iran. there is a lot of uncertainty now. a huge vacuum. and all too often, when that vacuum gets filled by different kinds of violence. >> always good to have you on the show. thank you so much. and coming up, what young voters are saying about last night's vice presidential debate. we have a live report, next. te we have a live report, next. wrinkle repair. it has derm-proven retinol... ...expertly formulated... ...to target skin cell turnover... ...and fights not one—but 5 signs of aging. with visible results... ...in just one week. neutrogena

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of young voters motivated for everything from abortion rights to housing costs and even taylor swift could be the difference in this election. jacob spoke to young voters near detroit which helped swing the state to joe biden in 2020. jacob joins me now. hello, my friend. what did these college students tell you? >> reporter: they tell me all kinds of things. you talk about an influx of young voters, there is no state with higher voter participation amongst young voters than the great state of michigan. and why oakland county, you might ask? steve kornacki told us to come here. oakland county is literally what

tipped the scales to president biden from former president trump in the 2020 election. 100,000 vote swing. right next to macomb county as well. we came here to oakland university to talk to some of the students about how they responded to the vice presidential debate. here's a little of what they told us. >> i felt like j.d. vance was worse. his other public appearances have been awkward. why can't he be normal? >> that's how you felt coming out of here? >> i thought he did a lot better. >> you said the high school civics class. why did you say that? >> if high school civics class, why did you say that? >> if anybody took high school civics case they would know what the vice president can't do and what the vice president can do. neither candidate on that stage talked about what executive action they're going to take on day one to do what they want, nor were they asked because they know that they can't. that's not how the vice presidency works. you don't get to do what you want, you do what the president

delegates you to do. >> reporter: henry, the first young person we talked to of course was pleasantly surprised by senator vance, marcus, on the other hand, now an internet celebrity, trending at about number 13 on x was making a point about what the vice president can't do and came down in support of the harris/walz ticket. at the end of the day, it's going to come down to enthusiasm. it was interesting to see how fired up folks on the ground were. as i said, they made the difference in 2020. they very well could make it again in 2024, chris. >> quickest question, how many minds were changed? >> reporter: >> i think about one or two. not very many, chris. they were set going in and set coming out. >> jacob soboroff, it's always good to see you. on x, with a bullet, let's bring in the chair of the michigan democratic party, lavora barnes and the chair of the wisconsin republican party, brian shimming. good to see both of you. you have just heard a couple of young voters in oakland county.

talk about the places in your state where this election will be decided, and how much has your ground game focused on the many college students in michigan. >> chris, it's great to see you. i have to tell you, i loved seeing those kids in oakland county. oakland county is going to be a place where we are working hard and expecting large turnout with democrats, working hard in oakland county. kent county is another place we pay close attention to what happens on the ground. everyone knows how much we work. we're an ad 3 operation. we have folks on the ground, on the doors, on the phones, in every county of this state because we know there are good democrats and republicans who can vote for democrats. we are everywhere, talking to everyone to make sure we win the election in november. >> there's new polling from the cook political report. the race in wisconsin is

tightening. kamala harris had a four-point lead in august, down to two points now. of course that's well within the margin of error. interestingly, the senate race in wisconsin is tightening too. so i wonder what you're seeing on the ground? >> yeah, on the ground i was just on a nine-city trump tour last week. the president was just in last saturday. he was north of madison yesterday and milwaukee, and i just found out on the way over to your studio that he's coming back in here in about three days. so the truth of the matter is we're energized. wisconsin, about a 6 million person state, 72 counties. chris, we've had 12 elections in 24 years in wisconsin that have been decided by less than 30,000 votes statewide. all the numbers we're seeing internally and externally as well. it's a one-point race either way. >> that leads me to the obvious question. can your ground game match the

democrats? >> absolutely. we have over 40 offices statewide, dozens and dozens of people, hundreds, really, if you include third-party groups, knocking on doors, and making personal contacts. one of the things the trump campaign did this year which i think was very sharp, it's not about dropping literature and putting up yard signs, we're getting to know people at the doors with our trump program. we're talking to swing, low propensity voters who have never voted before. there are a lot of them. there are hundreds of thousands of people who think like us, act like us, believe like us, live like us, but our job is to -- the poll shows harris with a three-point lead in michigan.

i wonder how you see this race changing since we left, spoke with the dnc for both harris and your senate candidate, elissa slotkin? >> you know, our senate candidate and the top of the ticket, the vice president are all over the state, talking to voters. the vice president is coming back later to speak. they're working hard to ensure each and every vote, and, you know, the candidate from florida who is running for u.s. senate, republican in michigan, needs to be here, and i'm not sure how much he is here. i know that elissa slotkin is working hard, connecting with voters all over the state. she's moving voters to voting. people are, indeed, marking those ballots. i feel good about the work she's done, i feel good about her race and the top of the ticket. we're going to win these things. we have the message that resonates with voters. we have a candidate that resonates with the voters. you talk about the difference between a j.d. vance and a governor walz last night.

you had a guy connect with people in governor walz, a guy people can understand and nod and say i know that guy. he's familiar. he's like my teacher, like my coach. you look at j.d. vance, and see a slick guy. in michigan, running for u.s. senate in michigan, and folks will street for the good michiganers, mid westerners that they feel good about. >> great spokes people for your parties in races too close to call. i'm sure we'll talk between now and 34 days from now. thank you both. president biden landed in south carolina ahead of touring the damage from helene. he's been talking to the governor there, lindsey graham is there. what people on the ground are telling our reporters about the struggle to get in touch with their families. stay close, more "chris jansing reports" right after this. "chr reports" right after this. unitedhealthcare knows you've got your whole life ahead of you.

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