i think it's a much smaller group of people than we believe. in 2016 one in six family members stop talking to each other because of the election. and at the same time after the screening on monday, i know four families that reunited and found each other again. there is a way back and a way through. and i think when we assume people don't want to engage, we assume the worst of them and we can't imagine loving them and imagine they can love us. but that possibility of staying in relationship is what it's all about and what we are about as a country, and what this film is about. good morning. it is saturday, october 5th. i am alecia menendez with symone sanders-townsend and

michael steele here in washington, d.c. rolling out the heavy hitters . the support vice president harris is receiving from president obama on the campaign trail. plus, the quote, depravity on the campaign trail. the dark, dangerous lies republicans are spreading in the aftermath of hurricane helene. north carolina gubernatorial candidate josh stein is here to respond. grab your coffee, settle in. welcome to "the weekend." we are now just 31 days from election day. 31! and there is still a lot to do. that is why former president barack obama will hit the campaign trail for vice president harris next week in pittsburgh. this is the start of a battleground to her that he is launching. as for the vice president, she held events in detroit and flint, michigan

yesterday. while there, here is with motors from the muslim and arab communities. her campaign is also ramping up for the latino and black voters. here is nba legend magic johnson, urging black me to show up for the democratic ticket. >> kamala's opponent promised a lot of things last times 10 to the black community that he did not deliver on. and we have got to make sure we help black men understand that. >> joining us now is msnbc hat. political analyst and former medical maryland congresswoman, donna edwards. do you think some people could read what magic johnson said in the wrong way? i don't want them to read it the wrong way. i think he was coming from an authentic place, he, himself. i say that because, i heard some folks yesterday after this and aired, you know, the clips came out, why is magic johnson trying to tell black men what

to do? and i did not read it that way. >> if you are taking the defense of a posture, that proves the point i am about to ask, because there is a black male problem right now in this race. and i'm just going to put it on the table and go there. there is a tension between black men and black women in this country that no one is really interesting, and it is manifesting in this way in that is concerning. i am curious, because i have been talking to a number of black men and black women about this race, and they all agreed that this tension is there, because it doesn't make sense the excuses that are being made by some black men, a lot of black men by not supporting her over donald trump. and i think, that is what magic was getting at. how do you see this playing out in that context? because i think there is something, the elements that are not being addressed, symone

addressed it in her special a little bit last week . everybody is kind of coming at it, but they have not nailed it yet. >> such a big question. look, i think there is probably a tension there between black men and black women, and some of it has to do with the perception, i don't think the reality, but the perception of lack women's achievement. more black women going to college, more black women successful to focus on the black woman vote. that has created in itself an understandable tension. but look , i think that-- i believe in what shirley chisholm said, not so much about race as it is about gender. and i don't think what some black men, and it is not a lot, because kamala harris has actually done an awful lot to bring blackman home. if you look at the polling numbers, they suggest that while joe biden was not drawing

in black men, kamala harris has closed that gap. and now, she just needs to put a wrap on it. i think bringing out people like president obama, like magic johnson, and others, is a way to do that, but it doesn't cure that's understandable tension. i think it is a reason kamala harris is focused on small business creation. i think it is the reason she is focused on building and strengthening communities, because those are things that appeal to black men. i view this as more of a gender problem that a race problem. >> your special is a vote. >> i was like, floor, we are starting off heavy! [ laughter ] >> going up before the show just changed everything. >> okay, look, our special touch on this a little bit. and i think what moore said,

the chair of the 2020 democratic convention, she said, we have to actually dispel the myth that men, especially black men, are not going support a woman candidate, a black woman candidate. yes, and i agree with her. she said, you have to create-- people need to be able to see her as commander in chief, and that is the work of the campaign has to do, in addition to policies, people want to see policies. she says, she believes that the campaign is doing that work. you know what, maybe this is a radical thing. i am not mad that black men, younger voters, latino men, even some black women are saying , you know what, i need to see more because people need to earn my vote. because for years, one could argue that the consistency at which black voters pacifically, and some other demographics, have supported the democratic party apparatus to me that consistency sometimes could be taken for granted. and i think

what you are hearing a swath of people say is look, not in hours initial we did not find a number of black women across the board that were trumped curious, as melissa would like to say, but they were just like, i don't know if i am going to vote at the top of the ticket. i believe, given the time left from a campaign perspective, you just have to meet the vultures where they are. if that is where they are, you've got to meet them and earn their votes. i do think in a moratorium post, we will see what the numbers look like, remember the stacey abrams race in georgia, black men did not vote for stacey abrams. that is a lie. black men did both for stacey abrams. that is not why she lost that race. black men have already demonstrated they are voting for kamala harris, and again, it really is about margins. i think for kamala harris, she has to maximize the black vote. she has to do it, obviously, by earning it, but there are a

couple of other demographics she has got to appeal him too. let's talk about white women. >> that is the biggest achilles that i see, alicia, white, suburban women are not-- it is not a guaranteed, let's just put it that way. i think a lot of folks assume a lot about that on the democratic side. i think donald trump in 2016 dispelled folks of that and again in 2020 dispelled folks of that. you have copies when pillars of challenge that i think go to the court what you are saying, it is not race necessarily as it is gender. how does america look at a woman, regardless of her race, a woman in the role as commander in chief of the united states armed forces, the federal government, to be the leader of the free world? you and i think that is the next level of challenge that the vice president has. i think

she is meeting that challenge, personally, and i think she has met it on a number of scales. how should we be looking at this election 30 days out? are we still in that-- does she really come off as a commander in chief, or at some point, do we start to focus on the big orange thing in front of you that wants to be a dictator? >> and i think her response and her campaign's response has been to show, rather than talk- - her to show up as commander in chief, rather for her to assume that position. i think her performance in the debate was a great example of that, part of the reason they would like to see another debate. to your point about why we are focusing on donald trump, i think in part, because what we are hearing from vultures, for people who donald trump is a motivating factor, there might has largely been made up in one or two directions. now, what they are trying to do is fill the void with the vultures to whom that is not enough. i want to take a listen

to an ad the campaign is running, particularly focused on black voters, i will argue, and we will talk about it on the other side, the message appeals to every electric. take a listen. >> i get it, the cost of rent, groceries is too high. here is what we will do about it, we will lower housing costs by building more homes and crackdown on landlords who are charging too much. we will lower your food and grocery bills by going after price gaucher's who are keeping the cost of everyday goods too high. i am kamala harris and i approve this message, because you work hard for your paycheck, you should get to keep more of it. as president, i will make that a part of my priority. >> that add we know is meant to target black voters, we know that because all of the people in the ad are themselves black, but you could grab that message and apply it to your point to white women who still need to be persuaded. that is the issue. when we get past style and

substance, that is what everybody is talking about. >> and to symone's point, meet the vultures where they are. they're concerned about the price of rosaries, rent, they're concerned about their family. you saw a family that was obviously in the suburbs in that ad. and i think to your point, it does have a broader appeal, it just puts black families, frankly, in the light that we all know. we are not a monolith. and we are just like every other family out there, concerned about the same things. >> and we do live in the suburbs. i just want to let people know. >> montgomery county, pennsylvania where we did the kitchen conversation was in the suburbs. liz cheney going to montgomery county this upcoming week. the same, black women are in the suburbs too. can i note, because there is still work to do, i am struck by the naacp, there has been a 3.75 million on a radio ad, doing all of this organizing work, there are some vultures

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donald trump was willing to sacrifice our capital to allow law enforcement officers to be eaten and brutalized in his name , and to violate the law and the constitution in order to seize power for himself. i don't care if you are a democrat, or a republican, or an independent, that is depravity. >> liz cheney isn't the only republican building a case against donald trump. in wisconsin this week, a local group of gop leaders endorsed harris and georgia leaders backing the democratic ticket ramped up efforts to reach those swing voters that are out there. and nikki haley's supporters launched a new ad aimed at convincing conservatives to ditch trump. former congresswoman edwards back with us in joining the conversation, my good friend,

political strategist lucy cardwell, she served as campaign manager for joe walsh's 2020 presidential run. so she knows a little about how all of this plays out. welcome. >> lucy, thoughts about this cheney joining vice president harris on the campaign trail. obviously, she had already endorsed-- we were chatting during the break and i said to michael, she walked out like, i am doing this. this is a big thing, this cheney did not vote for joe biden in 2020. she said, she had never voted for a democrat before. >> it is a very big thing. it is a big thing when you use this lens. a lot of people were saying on twitter and elsewhere, if you were abducted and dropped back to planet earth and you saw the screen of liz cheney behind the vice presidential seal, giving a speech, what would you think had happened? you would think, liz cheney had become vice presidents, since i was abducted, and had to come

back to planet earth, you would never think liz cheney, a present from a republican dynasty, a not like the bushes, conservative, crossover folks, the cheneys, she if you're standing arm in arm with kamala harris. that is really surprising, it is really great, really impressive, and really impressive brave. with 30 days out, we are in her mission season. we are in the season of creating permission structures for people who know fundamentally that there is something deeply wrong with donald trump. there is something deeply disturbing with the maga movement. there is something deeply troubling about the idea we could give this want to be dictator four more years. seeing people like liz cheney, think themselves and her image is something that between now and election day, between now and when they vote, may be days or weeks from now, will be in their minds when they make that choice. >> it has obviously really upset donald trump that liz

cheney has decided to come out and support kamala harris in such a public way. let's pull up this truth social. i won't review all of it. the part that really tickles me is quote, ever looked at the horrible statements she has made about lying kamala harris? have you ever looked at the statement your own vice presidential running mate has made about you, sir? shouldn't you know the power of a 180. ? to me, michael, this just proves the power of liz cheney. >> yeah, it does. i think to the heart of western for someone like liz cheney to make this statement, my hope is that those voters out there that we were talking about before, i called them intentional vultures voters, they may or may not have the intent to vote, and they may or may not have intentions toward a particular candidate, so they are in the space where you can feel kind of moved them, move them off of not voting, into

voting. now that i have moved you into voting, how do i get you to both for this particular candidate? >> that is where liz cheney i think plays a very important role, because that permission structure, which you guys know i have been harping on that since the very beginning of this campaign season, is important on the republican side, congresswoman, so that we have the visual of liz cheney and vice president harris on the same stage, and liz cheney along with joe walsh, along with adam kinsinger, along with a whole host of local republicans in communities across the battleground states, standing in unison around the idea that donald trump is a threat. and this is not about the policy. i mean, liz made that very important. oh my god, i don't agree with anything on the

policy side, but this is not the question before us. the question is, do we love the country enough to support the country in the face of a man who has told us he wants to be a dictator? >> and how do you move from partisanship. >> exactly. >> when liz cheney came into congress and moved into leadership, i said, oh my gosh, one day she is going to be speaker of the house, i could not have been more wrong. i think what liz cheney does, once she gets other republicans' permission, but it is difficult to hear her lay out the case against donald trump than to hear democrats lay out the case against donald trump. that is what democrats bring in. i thought it was a remarkable speech. we did have this moment, am i listening to liz cheney, am i listening to a democrat? it was a little bit confusing for a minute, but she laid out the case and it is also giving an opening for other republicans all the way down the ballot in all of these

battleground states to do exactly the same thing. >> on thursday, she talked about-- former congresswoman talked about her evolution, if you will, and the last time she was in this very place in wisconsin. take a listen. >> in 1976, when i was 10 years old, and i was feeling envelopes for president ford's reelection campaign, i cast my first vote ever in 1984 for ronald reagan. the last time i was here campaigning was 20 years ago, in 2004, when we were campaigning in wisconsin, and all across the country. we were campaigning at compassionate conservatives. what january 6th shows us is that there is not an ounce, not an ounce of compassion in donald trump. he is petty. he is vindictive. and he is cruel. >> liz cheney laying out that case, lucy. is liz cheney, then you also

have folks like cassidy hutchison, sarah matthews, alyssa paragraph and, the three of them worked for former president trump and his administration. they have all said that they are voting now for vice president kamala harris. they will be hitting the campaign trail with former congresswoman liz cheney actually on monday i believe in montgomery county, pennsylvania , to go out there and have a conversation about why they are participating in this election, and why they haven't made the pipit from trump. >> these are supercritical stops along the campaign trail for harris and for harris surrogates. i think going to a state like pennsylvania is certainly crucial. it is crucial to not only try to win over some of the disinfected republicans, disaffected independents, those that see themselves as the so- called tribe of the republican party, a lot of republican strategists are counting on those people ultimately coming home for donald trump. the next 30 days of helping people see, no, you don't have

to do that. the fact, not only do they not have to do that, they don't have to even necessarily pulled the lever for harris. what we really need for them to do is not vote for trump. however they wind up on that journey, we hope they become harris boosters. we hope they tell all of their friends and family, gotebo for kamala. the most important thing we can sell to these republican the next 30 days, and i think people like cassidy hutchison, like my good friend joe walsh, is cheney, jim greenwood in pennsylvania, the list goes on and on, they are in every battleground estate, to say to people in their communities me you don't have to be a part of this, i am not a part of this, you know something is wrong with this, we can say no together in whatever fashion you want. >> i am waiting on john kelly, michael. >> we are waiting on a number of people. i thought it was profoundly important to have the statement made publicly in the first

birthplace of the republican party. and what i find interesting about having the conversation with liz cheney there, it's sort of the transition away from this form of the party. the party was born out of the party because there was disagreement over slavery. these republicans made the case for independence, for the independent freedoms of everybody, we are all equal. and to have liz cheney and kamala harris in that space, to me, is profoundly important. they are, they laid out the fundamental principles, which anchored the part-- i want you to listen to both harris and cheney talking about those fundamental vegetables in the birthplace of the republican party. >> i know the vast majority of us, regardless of your political party, agree, we must hold sacred america's fundamental principles from the

rule of law, to free and fair elections, to the peaceful transfer of power. >> vice president harris has dedicated her life to public service. i know, i know that she loves our country. and i know that she will be a president for all americans. as a conservative, as a patriot, as a mother, as someone who reveres our constitution, i am honored to join her in this urgent calls. >> i think that is an important message for the country here, in the birthplace of the republican party, to show that what's in front of them in the form of donald trump, that the party has been remade in his image, that is not what these two women were talking about on that stage. >> well it was a deeply patriotic message, and it was about a fundamental values system that all of us share, and forget the issues we

disagree with, liz cheney was laying out, and so was vice president harris, sort of basic, fundamental upholding the constitution, the rule of law, our shared values. and then, when we have got that as a foundation, we can argue about all the issues. i think for this cheney, her goal in endorsing kamala harris is saying, i want to get to a point where we can debate the issues, but we can't do that if we don't have a country where the foundation is one that is shared by all of us, and donald trump does not share that vision. >> shared value piece is the core of why this whole crazy experiment we call the united states of america actually works. former congresswoman donna edwards, lucy caldwell, thank you both for kicking us off this morning. still to come, jack smith strikes back. yes he does. what we've learned from his latest filing in the january

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harris fights for. >> i love that. >> that is what i said. >> again, same as the ad we were talking about me to reach out to black voters. you could take the messaging of that ad and apply it to any community. the thing that makes it different is the talent of it is sort of winking at someone like me and saying, yes, this looks like your neighborhood, this looks like your neighbors, may look like your family, but the message is universal. i think that is where they are hitting the market here, which is often where they would say, latinos want to be invited to the party, but they don't want to feel like they are invited to a separate party, they want to feel like they are invited to the same, main party. >> i think it cuts across the whole level of sorts of other ism that comes out of maga , and trump where they are looking at specifically black and brown communities through a very distorted lens than the one this ad shows you. what this ad

is showing you is everyday america. latino men and women serving in our armed forces, building our businesses in the community. a part of our educational system. i mean, latino individuals teaching our children. there is no separation. and the whole art of immigration is integration, where we all come in, we wind up in the same space, we find our corner of the room and we start to build out into the room. and that is what america does. we come here, we may land in new york, we may land in miami, somewhere in l.a., but we didn't build out from there across the country. and it stuns me how many people are afraid of that. >> well, some people do not want the change, but the change is here, whether folks like it

or not. >> it has been here since the country started. >> well, involuntarily, but that is another story now. come on now, mr. chairman! i do think these ads are important, and i think i said earlier this week and people were met and me, there are undecided democratic voters out there. look, it is okay if people have not made up there-- if people are still struggling if they are both matters now. the goal is to encourage them that their vote doesn't matter, their participation can change things, but the campaign has to speak to them. these ads and their engagement, what they are doing is speaking to them. >> you have that, so i want to do a quick shift, because you have that, and you have some of the work being produced by third parties, like the lincoln projects and others that are showing the other side of that. i think it is important to stress what you see in the here

is add, but also, what it looks like if she doesn't win. because that is the other side of the coin here. everyone is, i don't know, i don't know. well, let's share, just looking around the globe and show you what it looks like if a man decides he wants to be a dictator and you give him that power, this is what your life looks like. it is not the integration. it is the separation. it is the calling out individual. and that is not what the country needs to be about right now. i can see that being difficult. too this is not a theoretic conversation, for sure. next folks, president biden addresses the middle east and the conversation relationship. you are watching "the weekend." live

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east, israel's military lost the new airstrikes in lebanon. a series of explosions were reported in beirut saturday. the iranian backed militant group hezbollah says, it was encased in crashes along the southern border. it on friday, president biden answered questions about the conflict. reporters asked him if he has limited influence on israel's leadership. take a listen. >> our teams are in contact 12 hours a day, constantly in contact. i have already had my presidential daily brief. we've already had interface between our military, the diplomats, in constant contact. they are trying to figure out, holidays as well, they will not make a decision immediately. we will wait to see when they want to talk. >> joining us now is mccain institute executive director evelyn vargas, foreman deputy assistant secretary of defense

and former ally advisor, senior advisor in europe, also michael froman. the president was also asked,-- first of all, he popped up in the briefing room for the first time since he has been president. the reporters did not stand when he came in, i thought that was problematic, so did michael. the president was asked about benjamin netanyahu specifically and whether he would agree to a cease-fire, let's play and see what he said. >> none. none. none. and i think maybe you should remember that. whether he is trying to influence the election, i don't know, but i am not counting on that. >> michael, what do you think? >> i think, as the president said, there is constant dialogue going on between the u.s. and israel, but we are not calling the shots.

there is a lot of different and israel to make a decision about security and the u.s. limited impact over the tactical decisions that israel might be taking. >> and what do you think the iranians might be thinking? mac the iranians value hezbollah as a second strike capability. meaning, if israel were to strike hezbollah, that could deter them from attacking iran in the first place. israel has now created, seriously, hezbollah's capability. it has destroyed a lot of inescapable and military leadership, a lot of its military capacity. that means, a lot of iranians may be looking to say, they don't have a second strike capability anymore, it is significantly degraded. that may push them over the threshold of trying to acquire a nuclear capability, because the one thing that israel, the u.s., and others have said they will never permit, the risk here is that iran may have evidence to nuclear, the rest of the world make want to stop

them from going nuclear. negotiations don't appear to be on the table, there is a real risk of negotiation. >> that is a big question right now in terms of, where do we go next, how do we get there? you particularly, when you consider some of the thinking and musings out there. for example, a "new york times" where they talk about how joe biden lost his grip on israel's war for total victory. biden's overriding concern was preventing an all-out conflagration in the region. yet, as he thought a path for long-term peace and stability for israel, biden was undermined at every turn by netanyahu 's concept of the work. that has always been from a negotiating standpoint, the rock that seemingly could not be moved. now, you have this sort of upscale escalation with iran now, sort of playing out a role. how does the administration move

that piece with the netanyahu government , particularly given where the president is on his-- i hate to say it, but it is true, his lame duck, he will not be there come january, a new administration is going to come to the table. what more can the president do between now and then to sort of set up hopefully a peaceful resolution for the next administration? >> michael, i think i have to echo what michael froman just said, the reality is that you need to use the levers of pressure on the israeli government, obviously on iran and hamas in the context of gaza in particular. our government has not effectively pressured the israeli government to do the one thing that we wanted more than anything else, which was a cease-fire in gaza and release of the ostriches. let not forget, during this

jewish holiday that there are americans and israeli jews being held hostage by hamas, which is another way of saying being held hostage by iran . iran is controlling, not 100%, their proxies in hezbollah and lebanon. israel has weekend them. i think the real question now, is what can we do? you using the levers of pressure we have, to get all of the players to de-escalate, and frankly, i think we also need to be thinking about the nuclear threat. i will add one other quick thing. nick kristof and his "new york times" piece, he also highlighted the fact that every president has used pressure on the israeli government, meaning, has threatened to withhold weapons, or has withheld weapons, or has slowed weapons, and we know the biden administration tried to do this a little bit, but that is one part of the equation where i

think president biden might have been a little too lenient when it came to giving netanyahu full freedom . >> mike, what do you think about that? to understand, i think people should understand, president biden's relationship if you will with president netanyahu goes back 40 plus years. they came up in politics at the same time together, when president biden was a young senator, by minister netanyahu was making his way through the ranks in israel. the difference is that now, the bb netanyahu 40 years ago, even 25 years ago, is not the man many would argue sits in the prime minister's seat today. >> sometimes, we run the risk of making this too much about netanyahu. i think the u.s. and maybe the rest of the world underestimates the collective trauma the israeli society with through a year ago on october 7th. i think that eliminated the ability of anybody to really

influence israel's ultimate decision, whether it was netanyahu, his cabinet, or is really society more general in what to do with his response to that. suddenly, i think iran has estimated, it has been very effective in isolating israel nationally and really marginalizing israel in the eyes of people around the world. from the israeli perspective, they have very little to lose now in terms of international public opinion. going after that the they have always cared about, which is securing the borders, eliminating hamas as a military threat in the south, and significantly reducing the threat that hezbollah poses from the north. the question is, does that spill over into iran itself, or not? again, we make this about netanyahu, when indeed, the brought me broad-based support, securing a border where people can return to the north, 80,000 israelis that have been displaced from their homes in the north, people in the south that can't live near gaza and they want to go back as well. >> how do they get their?

what is the piece that needs to move on the chessboard to open up the legs for what you just described? i get that one day-- you know, remembering and commemorating what happened a year ago, the horrific killing and taking of lives there in israel, but how do the israeli people then move , influence the leadership to do what you described, if in fact, it is not the leadership that is at the focal point of moving those pieces? >> i think at some point, declaring victory over the military objectives in& hamas has been eliminating a military force, can never be eliminated as a political force, but is really saying, enough is enough, we need to work on the day after in gaza, that means, who will rule gaza, palestinian authority that is, will provide security in gaza, maybe a multinational force of moderate arab states, and begin to rebuild life therefore the guidance, so that they can return home and have some prospect of living productive

lives there in gaza. and in the north, i think the question is, what defines success? israel has a long history, a terrible history of being involved in lebanon, not always to its to fit. it wants to push hezbollah away from its border, significantly create its capability to pose a threat, not just to the north, but the rest of israel. if it is able to do that, will it be able to declare victory and say, we have secure borders, let's get back to the normalization in the rest of the region. >> let's get back to the sound we started with president biden in the briefing room, we asked about meeting president netanyahu, or if he was influencing the election, i don't know, but i am not counting on that committee want to address that? >> people. if they look at their trajectory, u.s. israel relations, and what netanyahu has done, the members of his cabinet and objectives, it is a

far right government . when president trump came into office in 2017 and i traveled to israel at that point and i was recently in israel this summer. when you talk to israelis, of course not the ones closely allied with the far right, regular israelis, and of course, moderate, they say that president trump gave the far right way too much leeway. meaning, netanyahu and his far right allies who are the crux of the government who relies on them for his power and to maintain his coalition. so, there is every reason to believe that if president trump came into power, he would continue to provide wholehearted support for netanyahu and his far right policies, which by the way, don't include moving toward a two state solution. actually quite dangerous to israel and to the objectives of the united states and security in the middle east. i think that the question the report opposed to president biden was a good one. netanyahu is not a fan of the democratic party per se, or the

two state solution right now. he may very well be interested in him is certainly not helping kamala harris. i will not say he is interfering with our election, because the dynamics are the dynamics and he is doing what he thinks he needs to do frankly for his survival. u.s. elections are a secondary component of that. >> thank you both so much for being with us. next, the mixed for the memphis police officers charged in the death of tyre nichols. you are watching "the weekend." weekend." oothpastes quit working in minutes. but crest pro-health's antibacterial fluoride protects all day. so it stops cavities before they start... crest. ♪♪ ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need.

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