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due to come october 8th joined the canadian consulate general in new york for a conversation between my great friend and mentor canadian consul tom clark and me. registration is free but it is required but on wednesday october 9th dream in houston with the council and the harris county public library, the west university library. also in houston on thursday, october 10th, jenny at the sugarland center. tickets for both houston events are available on the counsel for the southwestern usa about right. i'll be back home in toronto on tuesday, october 15th, to be part of the ramsey talks. i will be joined by susan ormiston. tickets for that are available at the world conservatories website, rc music.com. i hope to see you any event. thanks for watching. the katie phang show begins right now. w.
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here is the week that was. >> the devastated is mountain one week after hurricane helene made death -- landfall. the death toll has a past 200 acrostic states. >> i hear you, i agree with you and i promise you we have your back >> around 200 i run a ballistic missiles from iran rained out across israel this evening. >> no one in beirut had a quiet night. building shook across the city as israeli warplanes carried out at least 10 strikes >> springfield, ohio, has a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status. temporary protected status. >> the rules were -- >> the economy -- >> did he lose the 2020 election? >> i am focused on the future. the kamala harris sensor americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation? >> that is a not answer.
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smith tailoring his criminal case to survive the supreme court ruling. writing that although trump was present during the charge conspiracies, his game was of fundamental the private one. >> i never voted for democrat but this year, i am proudly casting my vote for vice president kamala harris. ♪ ♪ america's economy continues to thrive in this biden/harris administration. the united states added 254,000 jobs last month, dwarfing august's number and beating predictions by 100,000. the unemployment rate fell to 4.1%, easing concerns about the labor market. for those of you who do not speak economist, myself
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included, these numbers are just fantastic. they mean more jobs are available in hospitality, healthcare, construction and government sectors. wages are going up while inflation is going down. all of that means more money in your pocket as we head into the holiday season and the new year. meanwhile a potential crisis has been averted as a major union for dockworkers struck a tentative deal, ending a strike that had snarled east coast and gulf coast ports since the beginning of the week after tens of thousands of dockworkers walked off the job. that strike threatened the united states apply of fruit, cars and other imported goods. joining me for more now is the acting secretary of the labor department, julie sue. secretary sue, in his honor to have you on "the katie phang show." we are month ahead of what might be the most consequential election in the modern era. we have received what i think is a different kind of october surprise. economic numbers that
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have smashed expectations. share with our viewers what is played into this major bump in jobs and wages. >> thank you so much for having me we are seeing an historic economic recovery. just to put it in context, let us remember where we were two years ago. october 2020. kids are going back to school but it was back to zoom. why? we have a president in office who was not only denying that a global pandemic was taking place but was trying to place the responsibility on anyone but himself to address it. passport to today, we now have two and 54,000 jobs as you reported, which brings the total under present biden and vice president harris two over 16 million jobs created. that is the most in the same time period under any administration for an appointment rate, many people predicted it would take years to get to 4% we have now had
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at, near or below 4% for the longest read and neil armstrong stepped on the moon. this is a strong economy by all measures. it does not happen by accident. leadership matters and the investments of this administration, the commitment that this administration to the american people and to putting workers first has been a game changer. >> we have set inflation is down. the gdp is up to 3%. unemployment is downward wages are up. why -- because this is festering because in receiving objective metrics, it gets frustrating for me because analyst and talk about an impending recession. more importantly, american want to know when do i feel the effect or the impact of these good numbers? >> a couple of things. one is that i am traveling the country. when i talk to people, people are feeling it. we are starting to see people say my economic situation feels
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okay but the economy as a whole is still a problem. i think that goes back to something you have suggested. some people feel like it benefits them, politically or otherwise, to say everything is bad nothing is going right. the reality is the numbers show something different but when you travel the country, people are getting jobs that did not exist a few years ago. there are communities where factories are being reopened that were closed in the last administration. that means more people working. more security for families. more communities being uplifted. another part of that is when you have an administration who cares about working people and are willing to stand by working people and fight for them, it is not just that the economy does well. it is people who have been at the bottom for too long get to share in that. i get the privilege of getting to talk to people about it. i think that the politics of our time make it hard for the story to break through. >> you should take all lap
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because you did some hard and good work alongside transportation secretary pete buttigieg in ending the port strike before it have any major consequences on americans. can you share with us -- maybe a little peek behind the curtain of how this deal got across the finish line. i read something you said which would resonate. this dealt with wage increases but of fear about automation. the idea that their jobs are going to be replaced by machines. you said, notably, machines do not have families. this deal is a tentative one that goes to january of 2025. what went into play to make sure americans were not going to be negatively impacted by the strike? >> this is proof positive that collective bargaining works. collective bargaining means that workers have a real voice at the table. unions can come and sit down with employers and say this is what we need. this is what this workplace should look like. this is what it would take to
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ensure that when we do well, everybody does well. that is what happened. i salute the ila, their present, the workers who who put themselves in bodies on the line to say that we deserve a share of the billions of dollars in profits that have been made in the industry. let us keep in mind the contract but just expired for the workers was signed in 2018. it was the last administration and the economy was different it was not as strong as it is now. the shipping carriers have made 100% profit. some of the many times that. when there is so much prosperity. when the whole pie has gotten bigger because the economy is strong, working people deserve a piece. that is what we saw. the workers are going to get an historic wage increase. these are jobs that are difficult and sometimes dangerous but they have been a good honest living for a long time. we want to make sure they remain a good and honest
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living. i was proud to stand alongside the union to help get to this point. now, the ports are humming again and the parties will come back to the table to talk about other issues, including the one you raised, automation. >> another great accomplishment for the biden/harris administration for everyday americans. julie su, it was an honor to have you on the show. thanks for being here this morning . we are 31 days away until election day and both candidates will be visiting key battleground states today. vice president kamala harris will be in north carolina serving the damage from hurricane helene. while donald trump will return to butler, pennsylvania, the site of the first assassination attempt against him. both campaigns are also working to shore support from the latino vote and will appear with two separate town hall before hispanic voters. the town halls, as the harris/walz campaign is investing $370 million in tv, radio and
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digital outreach, including this ad that will air across battleground states. sheep upper car wash workers, cheated out of their pay. >> she thought corrupt banks that kick families out of their homes >> we are ready to fight for it. >> she thought giant drug companies to lower the cost of insulin. and she won. >> for more on the rays joining me now democratic congressman in the great state of california, robert garcia. he is also a member of the house of affairs subcommittee. congressman, always good to see you. the latino vote is not a monolith when it comes to votes but it is worth something that was pretty reliable for democrats but the return show the number has tipped slightly from past election producing things like the ad that we displayed and upcoming town hall will turn out the latino vote for kamala harris in the final weeks? >> good to be with you.
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first, it is important to note that the latino vote is behind kamala harris. she is winning latinos across the country and in the battleground states but the job is not done. with every week that goes by, more latinos get behind the vice president and there is consolidation that is happening. it is also that you have to earn the latino vote and i have been in arizona, in nevada, back to las vegas. to talk to voters on the ground and remind them what kamala harris has done for the community. it is not public education and healthcare and lowering the cost. it is not making sure that latinos have access to the jobs. that is the message that needs to be told every single day. the vice president and governor walz are doing that. there is a lot of misinformation. you have donald trump and the maga right telling lies. they are demonizing our community every day all of those things will move voters but this is a real fight. like the vice president says, this is going to be a close
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election. we have to reach voters with this at at and other policies and other campaigns and talking to voters every day. >> notably, harris picked up some big-name endorsements this week in the entertainment world , bruce springsteen announces support. in the sports world have magic johnson who joined her last night in michigan. life on republicans, and i thought this was a real doozy. liz cheney gave her endorsement at a rally alongside kamala harris on thursday. your thoughts on whether or not you think these types of endorsements are going to move the needle with the groups that, harris needs to win over. >> i think there is an act. let us talk about this liz cheney endorsement. your talk that independence particularly in swing states. this is the type of endorsement that people listen to that moves voters. we have seen that and surveys. i have seen that in talking to folks on the ground.
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it is not just liz cheney. think about all the former trump administration officials. we are taught about high- ranking military officials. members of his administration. members and leaders of the military throughout republican administrations that have come out in strong support for not just of kamala harris but opposing donald trump. they recognize and have set up multiple times that donald trump is a threat to our national security. he is a threat to world peace and does not have the capacity to serve as president. he surely does not have the respect of military leadership and it is also -- it has been clear not just what is happening hurricane recovery, but tom and time again donald trump has proved he is unfit for office. we went later today the vice president will tour storm damage area in north carolina. donald trump has launched partisan driven lies about the administration's disaster response. i did want to ask about california because we have just learned that then a president trump in 2018, initially
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refused to give aid to the state of california in 2018 because it is a, quote, blue state. but then he changed his mind when a senior director told him that some of the victims were actually trump reporters. once again, it seems like ada for me but not for the. >> it is not a surprise but we know that donald trump likes to punish whoever he perceives are his enemies. he views america and to macworld for those that support him and those that don't. those that don't should be punished and should not receive support and not receiving federal aid. what he is doing right now and causing so much misinformation about fema, about recovery efforts. about what the biden/harris administration is doing, is not only shameful, it is dangerous. we have lost hundreds of american lives. we have people that are still missing. information is critical. the fact that some folks are trying to cause discord and telling people not to talk to fema or the recovery efforts
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are not going on as planned. it is something that ranks as one of the worst things that donald trump and his supporters have done and they continue to do. at this moment, i am so grateful that we have a responsible president and vice president who are actually managing this horrific disaster across the country and will continue to do so until everyone is saved and people can get back to work and take care of their families. you that campaign stop in georgia when they used the debris of the start of that building as the bricks for the wall was just -- that was a real one. robert garcia, thank you so much for being here. thank you. coming up on "the katie phang show" the find out part. how one election denier in colorado received a nine year prison sentence for her role in trump's big lie. keep it right here on msnbc . ... keep things fresh with febreze small spaces.
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your lies are well documented and these convictions are serious. i am convinced you would do it all over again if you could. you are defined as this court has ever seen. you are no hero and abused her position and you are a charlatan, you used and is still using her prior position in office to pedal a snake oil that has proven to be junk time and time again. >> on tuesday, november 5th, millions of americans will cast their ballots for the next presidents of the united states. the truth is president joe biden won the 2020 election. trump lost i will say it again. trump lost four years ago. cases relating to false claims of election fraud continue in courts across america. take for example we heard, tina peters, the former county clerk
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and mesa, colorado, was sentenced to nine years in prison after a jury of her peers found her guilty of four felonies after she orchestrated a security breach of colorado's election data in 2020 in an attempt to overturn the election results in donald trump's favor. this one day after judge tanya chutkan in washington, d.c. unsealed a lengthy motion from a special counsel jack's myth laying out in detail by donald trump is not immune from criminal prosecution for his attempts to steal the 2020 election. dreaming that is barb mcqueen the author of the incredible book attack with ferment in and how disinformation is sabotaging america. and in msnbc legal analyst. i love this filing and this motion for immunity. i tweeted that it kind of reads like a superseding indictment. i wanted to get into this with you. unlike normal motions, we do not see so much facts and evidence set forth.
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that was 85 pages of this 165 page filing. >> this was an x-ray filing but is exactly what the court has asked for. the supreme court in july ruled that a former president is immune from criminal prosecution official acts taken while in office but not an official or private acts. it fell upon jack smith to do exactly that task. and to layout all of the evidence in this case. each of the alleged facts and all the evidence they used to prove those facts. in an argument why those facts are private, campaign activity and not official duties of the president. those who are criticizing or throwing out all of the evidence , it is because the courts have demanded that he do so. >> more importantly supreme court's immunity rolling was amorphous. it was not clear in terms of how the actual process was supposed to roll out.
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chutkan is relying upon what the supreme court told her to do and is doing the best she could do concerning the fact the supreme court made a big mess of it. i want to ask you something. the opinion that judge chutkan entered to have this unsealed for all of us to read, there is still a redacted portion of this big motion. she notes in this order that the court reserves judgment with respect to the government's propose redactions and the appendix that companies the motion. the appendix, that is the actual exhibits that were attached to the motion. do you think that we could see unsealed, public unredacted portions of the exhibits that constitutes the evidence of the motion? >> i do not know. the question will be whether the court can make a decision on this public record without delving into those items in the appendix. i imagine what that includes are things like grand jury testimony, verbatim transcripts of phone calls and emails and text messages.
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it may be that stay sealed until we get closer to the trial. it is a possibility and that is something that is continuing to be litigated. i think the court is trying to make sure there is transparency, which the public has a right to it is the right to a speedy trial but also not compromising the evidence in a way that could harm either of the parties, donald trump and his right to a fair trial or the prosecution and having witnesses be intimidated a some what they told the grand jury in secret. >> ironies abound. donald trump's biggest criticism is you cannot do this, it is election interference because it is on the eve of the election. putting aside the reality which we know he's delayed, delayed, delayed so it cannot go to trial before the november election. i want you to put this to bed because it is frustrating the lies that are being pushed by the gop and trump. this is not in violation of any 60 day rule where information that is done or comes out or
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action taken by the doj violates the 60 day rule before an election. you are absolutely right. the critics are turning that rule on its head. it is a policy and practice. here it does not come into play. it says that the justice department should not initiate action like a new indictment or a search warrant with about 60 days of an election because voters might wonder what the new allegations are all about and it could cause them to have doubt about a candidate. this is a case that was filed well over a year ago. we find ourselves at this stage only because of efforts to delay that were made by donald trump and rulings by the court that this factual finding needs to take place. jack smith is complying with court orders to provide the evidence that the judge can use to decide what is and is not immune from the idea that they
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have to sit on this and put under seal for another couple months because there is an election, not part of what the department of justice includes in its practice. i would submit it violates two principles, the public right to a speedy trial and the idea that facts should be public on a court docket in the interest of transparency unless there is some recognize case related reason to keep them under seal. >> barbara mcquade always battling that battle against disinformation. i'm so grateful to have you here today. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, katie. coming up, vote accordingly . j.d. vance is running to be the vice president of the oldest presidential candidate in american history. do americans really understand how extreme his positions are before potentially putting it in a heartbeat away from the presidency? that is next. ♪♪ ♪♪
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in some ways vice presidents are like understudies. you may never need them to step into the breach but they are there in case something goes wrong. consider the following. donald trump, who is 78 years old and regulate frequents mcdonald and loves his diet coke with end his second term as the oldest person ever to serve as president of the united states. in fact he would be 82 years, seven months and six days when his term at end in january of 2029 trump refuses to release the most basic information about his health. kinda makes you wonder what he is hiding. not to mention his rambling, meandering teachers have led to mental health experts going on the record concerned about potential cognitive decline. trump's history of outburst adjust that things are just going to go even further down hill from here. what happens if donald trump dies or becomes incapacitated and can no longer serve as
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president? section 1 of the 25th amendment states that in that event, the vice president becomes the president automatically. i will state it plainly. j.d. vance is a heartbeat away from the presidency of the united states. fans has polls number labeling him the least popular vice president candidate of the 21st century. unsurprisingly his extremist views on everything from childcare to the truth of who won the 2020 election. >> he is still saying he did not lose the election. did he lose the 2020 election? >> tim, i am focused on the future but did kamala harris censor americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation? >> that is a nonanswer. >> not admitting you're running mate lost the last election is a huge red flag that you have an issue with the truth. do not take my word for it. here he is in another life. >> i never support a national
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ban. i surely would like abortion to be illegal nationally. >> politicians lie but then there is his extremist stances, like this. >> if any of us want to do the things you want to do for our country and the people who live in it, we have to attack the universities in this country. the universities do not pursue knowledge and truth. they pursue deceit and lies and it is time to be honest about that fact. >> the best way to pursue a good and fulfilling life but yale educated j.d. vance want to overhaul the education system. limiting the department of education, privatizing k-12 and dismantling the collegiate system. dance is a threat to everything americans hold deal. if something happened trump the job ago to j.d. vance. that guy who refuses to acknowledge that trump lost the 2020 election. the guy who promotes anti-
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immigrant hate rhetoric and supports a national abortion ban. let us be clear. 40-year-old j.d. vance is fully aware that trump is an old 78. you are kidding yourself if you think that vance did not consider trump's is a cool and mental health issues when he contemplated his career advancement and upward mobility prospects as a republican vp nominee. any vote for donald trump is a vote for a potential and automatic j.d. vance presidency. so vote accordingly. coming up, my conversation with seth rogen and lauren miller rogen on how their nonprofit is supporting caregivers to loved ones with dementia and bring a much- needed light to alzheimer's. do not go anywhere. oh... stuffed up again? so congested! you need sinex saline from vicks.
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one of his most important roles is one you have never even heard of. he is the cofounder along with his wife lauren miller rogen of the nonprofit called hilarity for charity. it brings awareness to alzheimer's and dementia and provide support and education for caregivers. given my late father's history with alzheimer's and dementia, is important topic that is near and dear to my heart. when i really have the chance to sit down with seth and lauren, i was excited to share with all of you what i learned. about how they are using comedy to care for affected families and activate the next generation of alzheimer's and dementia advocates. >> dementia was a part of my life since i was very young. my mom's father had alzheimer's. they did not clearly diagnose back then. and then my mom was diagnosed just before her 55th birthday, which was just before my 21st birthday. we were shocked, scared and terrified and did what many people do. which was flailing
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around in fear but then ultimately realizing that we wanted to take that energy that we were feeling and to do something about it. >> how does it work for someone who does not have the parent or the grandparent that is directly going through the disease but you have to be a part of the life? you have to be a part of the circle of family and you have to figure out how to navigate the support two >> something like this. just aging naturally can be something that completely debilitate a family and completely up and is their ability to just live day today in any sort of functional way. >> seth and i had started dating early on, we started dating when we were 23 this was in the background of our relationship as it was growing. my mom was advancing in her disease. being caregivers was a huge part of our relationship. and we saw firsthand the burden that is put on caregivers to provide care and to always be
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there and show up and that it can be 24/7 job >> i was just trying to be supportive. i told lauren to go to therapy to speak to someone who was much more equipped than myself to actually help her and give her the tools to deal with some of the staff. it was very eye-opening. if you cannot afford 24 hour day, seven day care but one, you have to leave your job. it is very -- it is not a good system. >> it is not easy to navigate or figure out where you get the help. at the same time, you almost feel like you are cheating yourself a little bit when you try to get some therapy or find a support group that i know hilarity for charity, you are doing this. you have got community groups that are able to meet to share this experience because it is a
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unique experience. >> it really is. early on, i felt so alone. i felt like i was in my, you know, mid-20s just sort of starting out and i am the only one dealing with this. obviously, that was far from reality. unfortunately, there are millions of people dealing with it. so many young caregivers as well. as we created from hilarity for charity, we really wanted to be really deliberate, i would say, and how we were helping people who were going through the situation. which is how we decided to focus on care and caregiving and supporting caregivers and ultimately also helping people care for their brains. it is a tool get and road map all in one of for people to go to. it is like a resource. >> it really is. we really tried to create a number of resources. we do a virtual convention we call care con every year. we have different panels. seth hoses the economy -- comedy
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panel. and there is a fair amount of it . >> there is a saying that laughter is the best medicine. >> i think that you have to keep from crying. >> fake it until you make it. i laugh until you cry. seth, you have the special in 2018. are there plans to do it again? >> we had a sold-out show for the hollywood bowl, justin made we have continue to do big live events and things like that. we had snoop dogg and post malone and bill burr performed. it was as fun as subversive of an event as you can have in many ways. we have continue to try to put it forward. i think we have seen a difference. in the time we have been doing this it is so much more privilege in society. i personally feel like i have thing the stigma lifted through
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things like our events and other people coming for ensuring their stories. other famous people who, you know, their family members or they themselves are dealing with it. >> i think that you would hear stories decades ago. people would whisper cancer. i feel like that is how alzheimer's was. i don't think that is the case anymore. >> it is like john wayne, essentially died of cancer. he did not tell anyone about it. it was a secret, basically. in the following decades people started -- if a celebrity had cancer, it was not a dark secret. people started to talk about it. with people like bruce willis -- the fact that is a part of our culture. there is a major celebrity who is admitting they have some sort of dementia. it is a part of the conversation, that is something i think would never happen when we started doing this. >> the conversation around brain health is where we get
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our optimism and we get such great energy. scientists and smart people say that potentially 40% of cases, four out of 10 cases could be delayed or prevented by living a brain healthy lifestyle. we know at this point that alzheimer's and dementia can start in your brain 2230 years before using a symptom. therefore, the obvious thing is to start living a brain healthy lifestyle. and that has become a huge part of what we do at hfc. teaching people to care for their brains. we found that young people really gravitate towards that. they want to take action. we teach them how to sleep properly and exercise. emotional well-being and mental fitness. >> we have created a whole program to teach younger people. the funny thing is that we prove that young people -- we published a study -- >> in a scientific journal. >> people learn better from celebrities than they do from
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doctors. >> really? >> they retain and process information better when it was told to them by a celebrity and someone who actually knows what they are talking about. in the wake of that we recruited celebrities to teach our coursework. that is what we did that. should we have doctors who are famous people do this? the answer was we should have famous people do this. >> there are very few people that have not been touched by dementia of some kind to someone they know or love. that is something we also found along the way and people are so, luckily, very generous and giving of their time because of that. it was about laughing in the face of darkness, sf kind is it already. alzheimer's is dark enough. if we are going to have an like to raise awareness and raise money to help people, let us laugh. let us not live in the darkness that people deal with every single day. >> my thanks to seth and lauren for taking the time to talk
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with me. you can catch the full interview on youtube by heading to msnbc.com /katie. it is definitely a conversation you do not want to miss. historical coming up, flipping the florida the democrat running to and state senator rick scott in the sunshine state which would give her party a chance to hold the u.s. senate in november. debbie powell joins me next and how she plans to do just that. t.
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the fight for the white house will be top of mind for most americans over next month but we cannot forget the battle for control of the senate. right now democrats hold just a two seat majority in a state where they could gain some ground is in florida. public polling from the sense i think gives rick scott just a slight tiny edge over democratic challenger debbie mucarsel-powell. but not by any huge margin. she still has an uphill battle. democrats have not won a gubernatorial election since 1994. they have not won the electoral college and 2012 or won a senate race since 2012. joining me now is former congressman from florida and current united states senatorial candidate debbie mucarsel-powell. congresswoman, it is an honor to have you here but you just got endorsement from president barack obama. you have to flip florida. you got to do this. this is not a purple state.
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tell us what is going on. >> first of all it was wonderful to receive his endorsement. florida voted for barack obama in 2008, 2012. we are a swing state. people do not realize that. what republicans have been doing for the past year and a half is to send this message that we are red state because avon purging voters off the rolls. they drew maps that were so gerrymandered that it affected one of our congressmen that lost his seat because of the gerrymandered maps. the electorate, we are independent. we are people that -- in florida, people vote both ways. it is not the candidates and issues. i think that under ron desantis and rick scott, they have gone so extreme, so extreme maga trying to take away medicare and social gerty. something that rick scott proposed. wanting to raise taxes on the middle class. was he doing now two rick scott is spreading disinformation about fema after
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we have been affected by hurricane helene, people want leaders that are going to work for them and offer solutions. it is likely what we have been trying to do to provide accurate information on fema disaster relief we had a town hall just in the tampa bay area talk about climate change, the impacts and what we can do to lower the cost of living for the state of florida. rick scott is not hiding he knows this is a competitive race. i need everyone to support me right now. he is putting in $10 million against me right now. if everyone watching were to support the race, we would have the resources to defeat him. he is a danger not just in florida but the country. debbie for florida.com. if you're watching, i need you. >> let us know that we do not want to put the florida voters in a box for we have amended four, which is the abortion amendment. the ability to have women and people be able to decide what happens to their own bodies. rick scott voted against ivf federal protection.
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supports a six-week abortion ban in florida. he is definitely not friendly to reproductive rights. >> he does not respect women or doctors. he says, you know, he would've signed into law the six-week abortion ban. a band that is so dangerous that has hardly any exceptions. we are, right now, hearing stories of women that are being turned away right here in miami and an area in coral gables where a woman -- her pregnancy was not developing lost almost half of her blood and really was in danger of losing her reproductive organs. why are we having this discussion when it should be between a woman, her doctor, her family, her faith -- free of government interference. including weird politicians, like rick scott. he has been spreading disinformation about crushing baby's skulls. there is something wrong with this man. he is intent and going back
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into the senate and becoming senate majority leader. he wrote the preamble to project 2025. he is completely aligned with the heritage foundation. he will do what ever the maga movement tells them to do. vote against disaster and says he wants a fema funding for florida and he is a fraud. we cannot allow rick scott to go back for another six years in the senate. he met debbie, you take the time to talk about the issues. you have been willing on three separate occasions to do a tv debate with rick scott and he refuses each and every time. just recently, you went to an elections class and he would not show up and be in the same room with you. what is he trying to hide from the voters ? >> he knows his values do not align with the values of floridians. he knows very well that if he is in a debate next to me, a woman that understands the issues that are facing floridians, he is the first
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latina at the top of the ticket. which should not be that way. we should represent who we are in the state of florida. it is dereliction of duty. for him to turn his back on the florida voters and not explaining why he thinks he deserves another six years -- for that fact alone, he should not be re-elected. he needs to face our voters and talks about what he plans to do. but he does not plan to do anything but he's finding it back in there to continue to use the seat for his own self gain. he oversaw the largest medicare fraud in the history of the country. i wrote this down because it was well pretty had to pay $1.7 billion to settle an insurance fraud case. >> exactly. he talked about reducing the deficit. maybe he returned from the money he took for medicare fraud we could start to reduce the deficit. he puts money behind saying he is going to protect ivf and then vote against ivf. he is dangerous. this is our opportunity to stop him.
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he has been in government for 14 years. he had slid his way into the senate using money he took for medicare fraud. he barely won. he has never run in a presidential election but he only won by 10,000 vote. florida is in play. we are working to make sure that we are in front of floridians having the conversations to understand. i will go to the senate to protect voting rights and protect a woman's right to choose. to make sure we protect medicare and social security. these issues are the issues that are important for floridians but the issues that rick scott refuses to answer to on a debate. >> you have served in congress. you are a united states senatorial candidate from florida. thank you, debbie mucarsel- powell, for being here. thanks for joining today picking catch me back and et cetera at noon eastern. follow us on social media using the handle at katie phang show. catch clips of the show on youtube by going to msnbc.com/katie listen to
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