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good evening. tonight? a year since the day that changed everything in the middle east. on the eve of october 7. i have
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a lineup of special guest tonight including the mother of the israeli hostage. reporting from the ground in gaza battling a rising death toll for palestinians and journalists. sir richard branson on the movement he is back that could provide a path to peace. let's do it. >> october 7, 2023 hamas militants launched an unprecedented coordinated attack from gaza breaching the security barrier israel had built. the targeted and massacred israeli soldiers and civilians. mortared communities. setting fire to homes. killed and abducted women, men, and the children.
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as the sun rose rockets flew over the music festival. excitement turned into terror as militants on motorcycles and trucks approached mowing down festivalgoers who try to run those who hid in bushes and ditches were shot point blank. 40 were abducted. overall over 1200 people were killed that day. 250 taken hostage into gaza. it was the deadliest day for jewish people since the holocaust and shock waves of grief reverberated around the world felt until this day. the attacks prompted immediate questions for israel's security and intelligence services. how could this have happened? and yet before those questions were ever answered israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu vowed revenge. what followed was a campaign of annihilation. the systematic killing of men, women, and children by the israeli military. the erasure of hundreds of famu bloodlines per carting of schools and hospitals. slow and cruel deaths caused by famine and the withholding of
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lifesaving aid. the icc issued indictments against leaders of hamas and israel's prime minister and ministry of defense for alleged war crimes. international human rights organizations in leading scholars said israel was committing genocide against the palestinian people in gaza. the were quickly engulfed the entire region with yet no end in sight. as we look back on this past year it is important to assess what the united states role has been in all of this. new bombshell reporting this week sheds light on america's complicit this in the war. early warnings of potential israeli war crimes went completely ignored by u.s. officials according to internal administration emails from three key dates. on october 11 israel was intensifying its retaliatory bombing campaign in gaza and as horrifying images of lifeless young bodies were emerging sympathies began shifting from the victims to the palestinian people. the death toll had already reached 1200. they sanded the state department's top public diplomacy official warned in any multi-see administers
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officials the u.s. is lack of response of the humanitarian conditions for palestinians is not only effective and counterproductive but we are also being accused of being complicit to potential war crimes by remaining silent on israel's actions against civilians. two days later october 13 the israeli military dropped evacuation leaflets over goes ahead of its expected ground invasion. be the deputy assistant secretary of defense for the middle east in of the senior officials writing international committee of the red cross is not ready to say this in public, but is raising private alarm that is real is close to committing war crimes. the main line is it is impossible for 1 million civilians to move this fast. he said he would try to buy
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time with the israelis, but the military began its ground operations later that day. and then october 14 president biden's rhetoric shifted.>> the humanitarian crisis in gaza. innocent palestinian families and the vast majority have nothing to do with hamas. they are being used as human shields. >> that same day an israeli embassy official in washington emailed state department officials asking for a shipment of automatic rifles to be expedited. the request was sent to the state departments of bureau of democracy labor and human rights tasked with ensuring u.s. munitions aren't sent to militaries involved in abuses. after conducting a review the deputy assistant secretary recommended holding onto the shipment, but it went ahead anyway. these emails encapsulate the freedom u.s. officials gave to israel early on in this war. is starting point that permitted and longtime ally to
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act with impunity. in the months that followed the death toll climbed dramatically with 25,000 palestinians killed by early january. at that time two notable things happened. international court of justice ruled israel was committing possible genocide and is will drastically ramped up its requests for bombs from the american government according to new reporting from pro- public us specifically 3000 smaller and more precise munitions. the us investor to israel assured the state department israel had a decades long proven track record of avoiding killing civilians when using the american-made bomb they had demonstrated a willingness to employ in a manner that minimizes collateral damage. reporting while the request was pending the israeli military approved those assertions wrong. on may 26 an airstrike on an encampment of displaced palestinians north of rafah
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caused a raging fire leaving bodies in its wake. and one video that went viral on social media man could be seen holding up what appeared to be the headless body of a child. at least 45 people were killed in the strike including eight children according to the gaza health ministry . the bombs used in this attack. despite protests from the state department and its employees the request for 3000 of those bombs was not denied. in fact weapons requests from israel were virtually never denied. a steady pipe in weapons, deliveries made its way to the israeli military and on top of that a $20 billion arms deal was approved in august. just days after a strike on a school turned shelter: this from people in gaza city. no evacuation order have been given prior to the strike and by then the israeli military had previously bond designated safe zones. the biden administration expressed concern . the kind of
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muted rhetoric that had become its go to responses to these massacres. it did however draw a much more blunt assessment from a un official. as israel is genocide in the palestinians one neighborhood at a time, one hospital at a time, one school at a time, one refugee camp at a time, one safes on at a time. over the past 365 days as the united states about israel with what it wanted it also claimed that it was brokering a cease- fire deal in an effort to stop the killing of innocent palestinians and to prevent a wider war in the region.>> my hope is by next monday we will have a cease-fire. >> that starts with a cease- fire that we have been working on. >> that deal never came to fruition and soon became clear that president biden was being played by his israeli counterpart who has been accused of not wanting to end the war. warnings against regionwide escalation also fell on deaf
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ears because they were was already widening. rebels had been attacking shipping vessels in the red sea since november in what they called a campaign of solidarity with palestinians. israel attacked targets inside syria killing a senior iranian general. militias attacked israel. is relaunched a full-scale assault on and then an invasion of lebanon. forcing all of this while iran is currently bracing itself for an israeli attack. we are in dangerous and unpredictable new territory. as "the washington post" puts it president biden has lost his grip on israel's war over benjamin netanyahu desire for total victory in gaza. there are several ways to evaluate this past year. it is will achieve its stated objective of destroying and freeing all hostages? the answer is no. 97 hostages remain held in gaza
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and hamas as an organization although diminished is still operational. are the u.s. and israel and its allies in the region safer today than they were last year? not if we are on the eve of war with iran. is the war in gaza contend? not with 2000 lebanese dead according to the health ministry and 1 million more displaced and oil tankers being blown up in the red sea. the gaza strip has been reduced to rubble and is virtually uninhabitable. the israeli military destroyed near 60% of all buildings in the enclave according to an analysis of satellite data by oregon state university. the gaza health authority says 42,000 people have been killed including over 11,000 children. thousands more still missing under the rubble. numbers like these are hard to grasp. there are many who look back at this and question whether the u.s. and world powers were ever genuine and using their leverage to truly end the war. we may also want to look back
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at this year and realize the biggest mistake the u.s. made by allowing israel to act with impunity wasn't just the destruction of gaza. but the destruction of international law and the rules- based international order that we claim to have cherished for so long. i have some incredible guests joining me tonight. starting us off. diplomatic correspondent. also a survivor of the october 7 attacks and wrote a book about his experience called the gaetz of gaza. history of betrayal, survival, and hopes . he joins us tonight . great to see you. i know that we have been in touch over the last year, but it is great to finally speak to you. i know that a year ago today your life was very different. you have written extensively about how your family survived the hamas attacks on your community. you and your family survived the witnessed atrocities firsthand and it seems like an of this will sound like an
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impossible question, but when you reflect back on this past year how has it changed you? >> good evening over there. it is impossible to sleep on a night like this when we are about to mark a year since the massacre that happened on october 7. and open the door to all of the atrocities and tragedies of the past year. for me just coming from the little place where i lived until october 7. it was a community of 450 people located half a mile from the border with gaza. is civilian community that was attacked on that day. we lost 15 people. that is basically 3% of the population that was murdered on that day. the neighbor and the house in front of me was killed . the neighbor in the house behind me. a woman. an 80-year-old. was murdered.
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seven of our neighbors were taken hostage into gaza on that day. the oldest was an 84-year-old woman. the youngest was an eight-year- old girl. five of our hostages were released in november of things to the deal orchestrated at the time by president biden including all of the women in the girls from our community. sadly we still have two friends in the hands of hamas. both of them fathers of young children were kidnapped in front of the eyes of their children, and if you had asked me on october 8 almost a year ago would they still be in the hands of hamas on october 7 i would have told you no way. we would have a deal by then. all of the hostages would be back. the war would be over. and yet here we are. >> i know you wrote a piece highlighting some of the failures over the past year. writing that benjamin
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netanyahu's claim that hamas is stopping a deal is a testament to the failure of his strategy. if there even was a strategy in the first place. he said he needed to take over and then rafah. after all the above the bottom line remains the same. our hostages are supplying a slow and terrible death in the tunnels of gaza. talk about the strategy and why you think it has failed so far and whether there are concerns that it has caused radicalization among more people. >> first of all, in terms of blame. of the blame for the situation rests with hamas. i write about responsibility. those are two different terms. this is a crime that never should have happened.
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i see aug failure on behalf of my government and releasing them. it is true that hamas is the negotiating partner . we are talking about a murder and terrorist person who has no regard of human life whether it is israelis or palestinians, but he is the person holding our hostages right now. he is the person and hamas's organization we will have to make a deal with to release them. when i wrote that article what i was trying to say is coming and saying they do not want a deal and that is the end of the story. that is not a real strategy. that is not a real answer to families of these hostages. because what they need to do if that is the calculation is to
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find ways to change. it can be applying more pressure on hamas. it can be a by offering a more sophisticated deal. the same thing that can actually get the approval. right now it seems that nothing is happening on that front. there is no negotiation. this is the analysis of the intelligence community. he is happy about this becoming a regional all-out war. that was his aim since october 7. to draw the entire middle east into this and set the region at self on fire. a year later we do not have a solution to the issue of 100 hostages still being in the hands of terrorists. >> i have to ask you really quickly. can israel win this work? do you think they will ever feel safe again with the current government? >> you can see the
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achievements that they have had recently in illuminating the leadership of the hezbollah. making it more difficult for them to fire rockets into central israel. those are real military achievements. without a diplomatic strategy to build on those achievements and to create a better reality for israelis or the people in gaza we will be stuck with hamas and we will be stuck with some kind of dysfunction . it is not clear what is the long- term strategy behind all of this. you can have great military achievements and eliminate your enemies, but a year later the hostages are still there. what we need is a policy to change that. >> great to see and thank you so much for joining us and reflecting on what a difficult
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in israeli airstrikes since the war began. despite the very real threats journalists remain in gaza committed to the reporting while the us a community of international journalists are barred from going inside. one of them has been reporting on the ground since october 7 and was able to join me today to reflect on the past year. >> thank you so much for joining us today. and a for the past year not only have you been covering this war, but you also have been living through it. let me just start by asking you how you are doing? how have you managed to get through this year and make it to this moment? >> that is a very tough question. i think i have been very drained and exhausted and actually numb. this is not just a year of war, but it has been
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a year away from my family. away from my friends. my home. and everything i used to have before october 7, 2023. at this point i feel that i may be emotionless let's say. >> what have you taken away from this year when you look back and reflect at what you have survived and endured and what your people have survived and endured and the price they have paid? what have you taken away from this year collectively? >> this year was tough on all levels. i think the hardest part is leaving everything you had or owned and not only that. also the fact that you lost a lot of people. your friends. your family members.
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see in gaza turned into a makeshift shelter full of tense. that gaza would never like this. has always been a beautiful city despite the fact that we have been under a blockade since 2007. this didn't only start after october 7. it has been an ongoing conflict. talking about blockades in 2007. another were in 2012. and another in 2014. it has been constant like this. i think that we all lost everything. every single person in gaza has lost a lot. >> i know that in the midst of all of this that you just
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described you have still been miraculously and courageously reporting. boston 26 were killed per 100 injured in central gaza. there was video verifying of abc news that shows a school on fire before the sound of an explosion. that sent another journalist holding the camera back. tell us about what has happened in the past 24 hours and what continues to happen on a daily basis. >> last night was a tough night. not only for the people in central gaza, but also for people in the other parts. especially where there has been intensive airstrikes. and also a ground invasion. last night the israeli forces bombed a mosque that had displaced palestinians. they were actually vendors on the entrance. pastries and food
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and they use to seek refuge in this mosque. they were killed in the blink of an eye. today when we were in the hospital it was very sad because all of my colleagues used to go and see those vendors every single day and talk to them, and they felt so sad. they told them good night and the next day they did not find them. this is been our life in gaza. you literally don't have any guarantee that you are going to see a person you love the next day for example. it is not only that but there was also another strike on a school. targeting schools and mosques and shelters and makeshift tents . shelters. camps. also residences where people are living. this all has been a target for israelis. while they are saying they do not target civilians or journalists, but yesterday
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civilians were killed and a journalist was also killed. >> let me ask you about the journalist killed. many of them your friends and colleagues you have worked with. last night we learned of the killing. his colic posted that his remains are now in pieces literally in a plastic bag. i'm curious to get your thoughts on western journalism and how they have been covering this conflict and solidarity that they have or not expressed with posting journalists that have been killed in going through this. what you make of how the western media has covered this war? >> definitely the western media has been complicit about this war. not only that they have been choosing what to report on and they always have been using things like they were killed. what happened?
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why won't you mention the full story? another thing we have been seeing is how different the ukrainian war coverage was and how the cause of the war has been to we know that journalists have been fighting to report that we were literally fighting to report. risking our lives. not only that. we are talking about the bare minimum of tools and equipment and communications blackouts. we have been struggling and challenging and putting our lives in danger to report. some palestinian journalists were born in gaza. they all have always been in gaza. they were born and raised here and went through everything and never left the gaza strip, but they still have amazing talent to report this war. that is why we are talking about people on the ground
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spreading a voice and everything they can. and documenting as much as they can. the western media are still using them as tools to take some photos or videos or reports from them. at the end of the day they are choosing what to publish and choosing the language they are using. process palestinian journalists know that this is happening. we are trying our best be that is why we are using our social media channels and our own platforms to report as much as possible because we know that there is an editor at the end of the day that is editing what they want to edit.>> you and others have been putting on a master class of bravery and courage for the rest of the world to see, so thank you so
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over the summer on his birthday his family and hundreds of supporters marched through the streets with blue balloons. that night they also led a protest outside the government headquarters in tel aviv. they believe he marked his birthday in captivity after being held hostage by hamas october 7. employed by the mid- that harry just two months early. a year later the family protests are big sometimes even nightly in israel calling on benjamin that and yahoo to ricky -- they also traveled putting pressure to force benjamin netanyahu into a deal. here is the father speaking
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just days ago. >> the on the way my son -- along with cease-fire. yes we want cease fire. the only one who is delaying it . the only obstacle is benjamin netanyahu. our prime minister. >> earlier i spoke with the mother and asked what she wants the world to know after one year of not being able to see or speak to her son. >> thank you so much for joining us. we just played a clip of your husband speaking about your demands to the u.s. and israeli government. in that same speech he talked about the need to shift the narrative from the call to bring them home to a cease- fire. can you explain the shift in messaging and how you think it might help release your loved one?
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>> it is not only my husband and my family, but the majority of the population in israel. they think the only way to bring the hostages back home. my son and of the other hostages. is only by stopping the war and a cease-fire and a signed deal. of this must be the decision of our prime minister. for so many months he missed opportunities on purpose. tonight to seal a deal. this is why we are shouting, and that is why we are talking about it. >> just to understand what you are saying. is it your understanding when he said the majority of people in israel. do you believe that the prime
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minister and his cabinet are ignoring the will of the majority of the people of israel who now are demanding a cease-fire, as you said? >> yes of course. the prime minister does not think of what is the best for the society and the population in israel. the only thing that matters is to stay prime minister. only by continuing the war he can get this. it is the only way. after the fighting stopped the war in the north. we do not see when it will end. and when it will be possible to bring the hostages back. we are very worried about this. >> your family has been protesting consistently. even traveling to the united states to put pressure on
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officials to use their leverage against the prime minister. how do you feel you were received by u.s. officials and why do they tell you they are not putting more leverage on the prime minister to do as you are requesting a cease-fire to release the hostages? >> we met some representatives of a jewish organization. trying to convince them to speak aloud and save the hostages not only have to come back home and we must bring them home, but how. only by stopping the war in signing a deal. this is the only way my son can come back. it is important that the jewish communicated support. the population and israel.
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>> you and your husband to have said that benjamin netanyahu is prolonging the war for political purposes. you also suggested that he is catering to those in his far right base or cabinet who saw october 7 as an opportunity for israel to reoccupy gaza. do you believe that is the intention of this current government? to reoccupy the gaza strip? >> it is not a secret. there are some ministers that are very extreme in their wishes. this is their dream. that is why they won't let benjamin netanyahu start the war. they put pressure on him. he cannot do otherwise.
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that is why we came to this situation. >> are you word with the were expanding that the priority to secure your son to release your son through negotiations in a cease-fire is diminishing with each day?
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>> how do you hold onto hope after one year? >> my hard is still at october 7. i miss my son so much and want him back. i am worried. i am frustrated with the situation. still trying to be optimistic and to believe that someday there will be a deal and he will return back home. this is my wish. >> we are all praying for you. thank you so much for joining us. in the midst of so much violence it is hard to envision
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as we near the year mark since the terror attacks in gaza is hard for many to see light and that this darkness, but there is one movement that could hold an answer. a movement called a land for all that pushes to recognize both can live separately and together entering five independent states that share one homeland. i had a chance to talk with richard branson along with two of his colleagues. >> thank you for being here. richard, i will start with you. if you can explain to us why you decided to support a land for all and this particular
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vision for a solution. what compelled you to speak out so publicly now? >> i think all of us have been looking for the vision of what could be if the right people came together. i met this group of palestinians and israelis. avenue and for all is their vision, and i think it is a the good vision. at the end of the second world war it felt inconceivable that germany and france and britain could live together in harmony for 100 years. and he said let's form a european union around the country's and let german people live and work in france, but they can still be germans. french people to live and work in germany, but they would still be french.
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and it has worked. i think that is the essence of this plan. >> the rest of my conversation with sir richard branson and a board cochair of a land for all . right after this break american healthcare workers send a powerful message to president joe biden and vice president kamala harris about what they witnessed on the ground inside gaza. start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. when we started feeding bogie the farmer's dog, he lost so much weight. pre-portioned packs makes it really easy to keep him lean and healthy. in the morning, he flies up the stairs and hops up on my bed. in the past, he would not have been able to do any of those things.
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whose life has been forever altered by an israeli airstrike. her mother said she woke up in a hospital bed and said mom, extend my feet. she did not know that she had lost both of her legs. her mother did not know how to tell her. this is the devastating new normal for the children one year into the war. annual report says more women and children have been killed in gaza by the israeli military than in any conflict in the world over the past two decades. reporting over 6000 women and 11,000 children have been killed, but those are a conservative estimate because they don't include tens of thousands of children who remain missing. this comes as nearly 100 american healthcare volunteers who traveled send a letter to president biden and vice president kamala harris urging an immediate and embargo to israel. they say we wish you
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could hear the cries and screams . our conscience won't let us forget. we cannot fathom why you continue arming the country that is deliberately killing these children. thank you so much for joining us. you also wrote in that letter we wish you could see the nightmares that plague so many of us since we have returned. does it feel maddening to you to see this level of devastation and not see anything significantly change in terms of how the u.s. treats israel? >> it is horrible. the united states is responsible for 80% of the bonds that have dropped on the innocent palestinians. we are conflating anti-semitism with anti-zionism. every time the students protest or anybody protests we are told
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this is anti-somatic. when in fact what we are witnessing is a. israel the right-wing government landgrab of innocent palestinian land. we are enabling that by buying 2000 pound bombs that were meant to penetrate granite in afghanistan and bunkers and they are dropping them on tent cities killing untold numbers of human beings. innocent human beings. this is not israel looking for the isolated soldier. this is deliberately killing the palestinian civilians. >> you and your fellow coworkers also wrote the death toll is far greater than the numbers we have from the palestinian health ministry currently around 41,000 people. you estimate it is closer to or more than 118,000. that is about 5% of gaza's total population. had explained that huge gap?>> that was calculated by researchers that published it recently.
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they just have to look at the early figures after the haitian earthquake or the earthquake that was also recent. the numbers it climbed exponentially. those are bodies that were recovered from excavation of the rubble. there are hundreds of millions of tons of rubble that have never maybe decades before excavated in gaza. most americans don't appreciate this. we dropped the equivalent of not just a bomb that fell on like a sake, which is bigger than the gaza strip. we dropped the equivalent of the atomic bomb that fell on both hiroshima and naga sake and the equivalence. the amount of destruction that american tax dollars have paid for it is immeasurable. >> >> the number of people that will never be counted for is huge.
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i myself have seen people that were brought to the er that were shredded like paper. there is no way to identify them . >> i wanted to ask you about that. a point that you made in this letter. that everyone of you who worked in an emergency room, intensive care, or setting treated children with shots to the head and chest on a regular basis. we have heard accounts like this of course from other doctors who volunteered in gaza, but i wanted to ask you specifically about her own experience but tell us about what it is that you saw that made you believe these young children were targeted with shots to the head and the chest. >> everybody that was with our team has experience with high velocity bullet wounds. there is a distinct difference between a pistol and high velocity bullet wound up your we had children that were hit with such high velocity bullet wounds. exactly where i would
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put my stethoscope. when we rolled them over the entire chest cavity is missing from them. everything between the shoulder blades, spinal cords, lungs, and heart is never even brought into the operating room. and then they were shot perfectly in the temple and their brains are missing. no child gets shot twice by mistake by a sniper. one child was ripped out of his father's hand as he was walking . he went looking for them. 10 meters away he founded the child. as they looked over for him he was shot the second time in the head. he did not even know he was shot in the chest at 1st, but he saw the had hit and then he was brought to our er. >> cannot even begin to imagine the horror that you have seen. thank you so much for your time and sharing your experience and insights with us. thank you. thank you. ooh, yes!
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elon musk is now a maga cheerleader. trump is going all in on lies and aggressive attacks. how does that help him win. more of my conversation with richard branson on his vision of the land for all.

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