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tv   Chris Jansing Reports  MSNBC  October 7, 2024 10:00am-11:01am PDT

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good day.
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i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. a day of terror, fear, and pain continues to multiply. as we speak, the war that began with the hamas attacks on israel one year ago today shows no sign of ending, with thousands dead, millions more suffering. among them, the parents of an israeli-american hostage still being held, omar nutra. they will join me later this hour. plus, the shockingly powerful storm bearing down on western florida. hurricane milton surging from a tropical storm to a category 5 in the span of just 24 hours. now, as residents race to get out of its path, emergency officials already stretched thin by hurricane helene scramble to be ready when it hits. and the supreme court back on the bench today. its first time hearing cases since dropping that huge decision on presidential immunity back in july. how this term's cases from transgender rights and ghost
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guns to flavored vapes will impact the lives of americans. a lot to get to, but we begin by marking one year since the horrific events of october 7th, the lives that were destroyed on that day, the tens of thousands that have died in the bloodshed that's followed. it has been, in the words of one u.n. official, a year of unimaginable suffering with no end in sight. the raw emotion was evident early this morning at the site of the music festival where the hamas massacre began and where a moment of silence was broken by the sound of one woman's grief. [ screaming ] >> 1,200 israelis were killed that day, 250 more were kidnapped, with roughly 100 still being held hostage. and the war that has unfolded since in addition to the israelis who have died, nearly
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42,000 people have been killed in gaza, according to the palestinian government. and the situation continues to escalate today with new israeli strikes against hezbollah and new evacuations ordered in both northern gaza and southern lebanon. nbc's erin mclaughlin is in tel aviv. nbc's ali vitali in washington. and david ignatius is "washington post" foreign affairs columnist and an msnbc contributor. thank you for joining me today. erin, a line in "the washington post" today said that in israel, quote, war has become the background noise of whatever future is coming. i wonder how you would describe the experience of being in israel today, such a solemn day? >> reporter: well, chris, what happened on october 7th remains an open and gaping wound that for many israelis only deepens with each passing day that the hostages are not returned.
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today, we saw a number of ceremonies across israel, thousands gathering despite wartime restrictions, including where i am now at hostage square in the heart of tel aviv. thousands here to listen to the counts of family members of those that were left behind there in gaza. many openly weeping at the memory of what happened on october 7th. now, at the weekend, we visited kibbutz near oz, the hardest-hit of the kibbutz. nearly a quarter of the residents near oz were either kidnapped or killed on october 7th. there we met rita lipschitz, a resident. she gave us a tour of the homes still standing, abandoned, many of them charred. she talked to us about her father-in-law, 84-year-old oded, who was kidnapped and taken to gaza. she does not know if he's dead or alive. she tells me that there can be
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no piece until oded and the other hostages are returned. take a listen. >> before talking about peace, we need our 101 hostages back home now. the center now is to bring back our hostages. we can -- it's very difficult to start a life without them. we cannot forget them there. >> reporter: now, earlier today, here in tel aviv, sirens sounded once again, sending people to shelters. hamas, according to the israeli military, had managed to fire a barrage of rockets, despite yet another israeli offensive that they announced over the weekend in the north, evacuating some 300,000 palestinians from their homes. the missile fire this morning, a stark reminder that this war is far from over, as israel presses on, not only there in gaza, but also now in lebanon.
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many here in this square tonight, chris, are concerned that with all of this violence, the hostages will be forgotten and left behind. chris? >> erin, thank for that. it is a day for remembering. it's also a day, arguably, for assessing. and i wonder as we look back across the last year where you think israel is or at least benjamin netanyahu is on his goal of making sure that october 7th never happens again? >> reporter: so, i think, chris, israel has after a very painful slow start after being shocked and unprepared, begun now to reestablish deterrence. they are taking down iran's network of proxies. hamas is basically hiding underground. it's been crippled by this war. hezbollah has been decapitated in lebanon. so you would say that israel has
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reestablished the conditions of security, even though the war continues. what haunts me after a year of so much suffering, so much loss of life, is whether something that's going to be different is being built. whether we're going to have a day after to use the phrase that was so common, in which there's more stability and security for israelis, but also for palestinians and lebanese. and i think that's an area where the united states can take the lead. it's something that's been very difficult for israel to do during this year, but it's essential. if we don't look back on this as just a period of terrible, terrible bloodshed and tragedy, we won't look back on it as the beginning of something more secure. >> you know, david, the question is what does victory look like if you can speak to victory, when so much horror has been
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inflicted? do you think that benjamin netanyahu is on the same page as the israeli people or the majority of israeli people, when it comes to an end game. what constitutes victory in this conflict? >> so, i think for this year, netanyahu has struggled just to get back to a sense of a strong israel that can take -- put down its enemies, on all of these different battlefields, that can strike at iran and its proxies. i don't think netanyahu has thought adequately about what comes next. he is a tactical thinker rather than a strategic thinker. and that's the vexing issue at the heart of this war, as we think back, what did this year mean? it meant reestablishment of israeli security, it meant terrible loss of life for israel's adversaries, but did it
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mean building something different? and that's not the case yet, but it must be. >> you know, i know you spent a lot of time in israel in the '90s, and i was there quite a bit in the late '90s. i think often of two children who were getting on a bus and told me how they -- and they were little, i think they were 8 and 11. how they looked for people who might be dressed in a way that could hide a bomb. and they said it very matter-of-factually, that was a part of their everyday life. and i wonder if we look at the everyday violence, the fear that people in israel now have to live with, are we in a place where this way of life is essentially normalized? not just for israel, but for the entire region, david. >> so, chris, you're right, people have grown used to living under the threat of death,
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wherever they are in the region. israel's done, i think, its best to end those days, when people look at everybody in a bus. i remember that as much as you. and just think, who's the suicide bomber? those days have pretty much passed. but people in the north, 60,000 people can't go home, because they're afraid of hezbollah rockets. is that going to end soon? what about the people in gaza? 90% of the population of gaza has been displaced. 90%. where are they going to go? what kind of homes will they live in? most of the housing in gaza has been damaged. i mean, those are the -- i just hope after a year, we begin to think about those questions. how do we rebuild so people don't go to bed frightened every night, in israel, in lebanon, in gaza? >> so, ali, talk to me about the events in washington and what
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people there have been telling you. >> reporter: chris, we're seeing a variety of events here. on the other side of the white house from where i'm standing, there's a vigil being held throughout the day by the families of people being still held hostage by hamas. of course, the pressure and the desire for a cease-fire and the return of those hostages looms over all of the events and commemorations being held today, but here you can see, as i stand here, a bit of the security posture that looms over this as well. i'll have our cameraman, tracy, turn to show you the line of fencing that goes around. of course, you can see, we're standing in the shadow of the washington monument. secret service are also here, because in the next few minutes, you have senator j.d. vance, who is going to be speaking here. the highest profile politician to address the rally on this side of the white house. you can see a little bit behind me, you can see the stage, but you can also see the heavy black fencing that's being put around this event, a reminder, again, of the high security posture and
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the tension around both the commemoration of 10/7 itself, but also the political climate happening right now in the united states, when it comes to those who are at the top of the presidential ticket. of course, vance being here means that secret service is involved in the posture of this event, as well. he's set to get on stage, i'm told, at some point in the next few minutes. but the politics is part of the security posture, is part of the larger posture here on the ground for the commemoration of this day. i have seen people going into this event wearing pro-israel t-shirts. there is a mood here of almost a quiet rallying cry. i know that where erin is and where she was speaking to people, it was a much more somber tone, certainly. that somberness is here, but there's also been moments during this rally where we've heard speakers elicit cheers from the crowd, a tone of defiance in such a somber moment for people
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who are on the pro-israel or the pro-gaza side. and we have seen people showing up trying to show their support for israel physically on their signs or on their t-shirts, but in the mood of the event and the speakers we've heard from so far. i imagine that senator j.d. vance will only continue with that rhetoric and that kind of pro-israel posture, chris. >> thank you for that, ali. so david, where do we go from here? where does this go from here? >> so, wars end when the combatants are exhausted. israel is on a roll in lebanon. it is taking apart an adversary it's feared now for decades. at some point, it may go so far that hezbollah is just a shadow of itself and the lebanese army, an army that the united states has supported now for several decades, trying to build up their strength, that lebanese army can regain the sovereignty of a lebanese -- they can go all
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the way to the israeli border and allow the israelis to withdraw with a sense that hezbollah won't come back in and fill that void. that's the outcome that i would most want to see in lebanon. in gaza, it's a question, i think, of finding the arab partners -- they're there. they're willing to help -- who can work with palestinians to build security with hamas' hold on gaza broken. hamas isn't -- that ideology won't disappear. but hamas led gaza and palestinians into a tragedy and they know it. and i think with wise leadership and with american help, we are essential in this. we may think we're kind of, you know, not playing, not lifting our weight, but we're essential in the future of gaza. only the united states can organize the coalition that will bring some kind of new life to people there. so i hope we begin to move into that job, thinking on this
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anniversary of so much pain, so many deaths over the years, we begin to think about how to build conditions where people can live. >> david ignatius, thank you. and still to come, parents of an israeli-american hostage will join me here. 366 days after he was taken by hamas. and in just 90 seconds, florida residents are getting out with milton now a category 5 hurricane and threatening areas already reeling from helene. s already reeling from helene. has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. speaker: my little miracle is beckett. [christina perri, "a thousand years"] i have died every day
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in florida, some residents are already packing up and moving out. the first wave of what's expected to be the state's largest evacuations in seven years. hurricane milton is officially a category 5, and it's now a race to clear away debris from helene before the place is still reeling from that deadly storm or hit by what the national hurricane center calls multiple life-threatening hazards. here's governor ron desantis and the director of fema this morning. >> we need as much of this debris picked up as possible. this creates a safety hazard. it's a 24/7 round-the-clock mission. you should assume that there's going to be some form of evacuations. that is going to happen when you have the potential for storm surge of this magnitude. we also have a storm that's already very powerful. >> they need to evacuate if
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they're told to do so, because these storms are bringing more water than they ever have. and so while we have the wind risk, it's the water is what's killing people. >> more water than they ever have. what is looking to be a gargantuan challenge comes as we're learning that fema is running short on critical funds needed to help. but house speaker mike johnson won't commit to calling back congress for more aid, even as he criticizes the federal response last week as a massive failure. nbc's bill karins is here, nbc's antonia hilton is on the ground in north carolina, and i'm joined by political analyst, and former chief strategist for the bush/cheney campaign, matthew dowd. all right, bill, let's start with the obvious question. how bad could milton be? >> a major hurricane hitting one of the most populated areas on any u.s. coast. i mean, that's as bad as it gets, as far as number of people that could be impacted and the amount of financial damage that could occur because of the storm. i zoomed in here on the eye, just to show you, because it's pretty historic. it's a category 5.
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we've only had ten in our history in the gulf of mexico. and this one rapidly intensified, as fast as any storm we've ever watched. it went up 100 miles per hour in 24 hours. you can thank the deep, warm water, record-setting warmth in the gulf of mexico for that. you can see, there's that pin eye i just showed you. the storm actually is relatively small, especially compared to helene, right? helene was a huge monster-sized storm, and intense. right now, this one's just intense and on the smaller side. but that's going to change. even though it begins to -- the max winds, which is only the eye, begin to weaken as it approaches florida, the actual size of the storm goes from a little button to a big old ball. and that's going to have winds that are going to be very strong all through the florida peninsula. the storm will be going through an evolution in the next 48 to 60 hours as it makes landfall. and it's actually going to get more efficient at pushing water towards the florida coast, which means a storm surge is actually going to be worse, because it's going to be a bigger storm, even though it's going to be slowly weakening, we think it's going to make landfall likely near the tampa area, sarasota, as a
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category 3. rule of thumb, always prepare for one worse. category 4 is no joke. that's why's there are already evacuations orders going out now and those will be expanded in the next 36 to 48 hours. the thing we're running from is the water. this is the fear. the max from helene, which was record-breaking in many cases was 6 to 7 feet and we could go up to 12 feet. that's a lot of new additional damage. even those houses that have been hit, you get to 12 feet and the wave action on top, then you're not just talking about water going in the homes, you're possibly talking about homes just being destroyed and demolished. that's the difference between 6 feet and 12 feet. here's a zoomed in map of tampa pay, in this 9 to 12 feet, anywhere in red, that's where you can see that may be under water. that's a huge area surrounding the bay. that's why we're going to focus a lot on that. of course, clearwater beach down to st. petersburg, very vulnerable too, on all of those barrier islands. max winds, if you get a category 3, you'll have roofs come off, extreme tree damage, that's what
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you would expect. you wouldn't see houses completely destroyed from the wind. and as far as the size goes, this is the size now, it's about 160 miles across. by the time we get landfall, tropical storm force winds are going to extend all the way from south of naples to the georgia border. this will be about 360 miles wide. so i want to give you that example of, just because we're going to get the extreme winds here, we could see power outages all through here. and for my friends in the orlando area, universal complex, disney complex, all the way up i-4 heading through sanford back to daytona beach, if this storm rides i-4, we're talking about a category 1 wind damage threat, almost like charlie was, which had people with blue tarps on their roofs and trees down for weeks all the way back in 2004. and then additional flash flooding. but, chris, this is not helene in the mountains of north carolina, the rainfall from this is not going to be its legacy. that storm surge, you know, we just -- can you imagine. we just got a record-breaking storm surge from helene, and now following it, we could break
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that. that is just -- that's incredible. you know, people are already trying to figure out how they're going to save their homes, and this is just another layer of misery. >> unbelievable, bill. thank you so much for that. you know, matt, look, first of all, let's just state the obvious, which is, saving lives is the single-most important thing. but storm response is a major test for government, period. in the final month before a presidential campaign, what are the potential stakes here, politically, as well as for lives and property? >> well, to re-emphasize your first point, my heart goes out to all the people there. i have a 90-year-old father who list in sarasota. >> oh, geez. >> so he's deciding what he's going to do in the course of this. so you're right, that that's the most important thing, the health and safety of all of those people there. these are one of those things where it's hard to really, to really guess what the political dynamic of this be. because it all depends, i think, on the response. the response to helene, no matter what the internet rumors and lies have been, has been
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fairly good. the people have suffered, but the response by the federal government has been fairly good. we saw a good response in 2012 to a hurricane, to hurricane sandy, actually helped barack obama in his re-elect. we saw the same thing in 2004. there were three hurricanes, i think, in the time leading up to when george w. bush, who i worked for, was running, there were three hurricanes, three or four, leading up to that race and presidential election. he handled it well and i think it helped him in the course of that, showing the federal government. but we know what happened to hurricane katrina. that was a horrible incidence of government mismanagement. and it hurt george w. bush even though he no longer faced a re-election in the course of this. and so, i think it depends a lot on the federal government response, which so far, i think, has been very good. the other part that i don't think we can underemphasize is that this raises the stakes of climate change as an issue. and that will impact and have an effect on voters not just in florida, but throughout the united states, because there are people that worry about it, but
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don't place it as a top five issue. but as these hurricanes intensify, as the problems become worse and worse because of climate change, the residents of climate change as an issue could rise in the course of the next 30 days. and that, i think, could be a dynamic that affects a lot of different states. >> so, antonia, all of this as matt rightfully points out on the heels of helene, and republican lawmakers in north carolina have been echoing fema's calls for an end to the disinformation about disaster relief. what does that disinformation look like? what can you tell us from there on the ground? >> reporter: chris, i think it's important to put this into sort of two categories. the first is that here on the ground, and i'm in burnsville, a small rural community that's about 40, 60 minutes away from asheville. and there are people who are rightfully frustrated, of course, heartbroken over all that they have lost. and they want to see more support here. they believe that there should be more fema representatives available to them. they would like to see a better
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federal response. and they're not engaging in conspiracy theory. they're just concerned about their own community. and then there are people spreading willful misinformation. a few examples. one is that fema is capping their aid to families at $750. that if you accept that aid, you're actually entering into a secret loan and you'll be forced to pay it back. none of that is true. $750 may be something they initially give you to help you get medication or some emergency supplies. but then through application processes, you can get all kinds of other funds for your home or other losses. and it's not a loan. they can't come back and ask you for that money later. some people believe that they're seizing peoples land. fema is not capable of doing that. and so i think there is, you know, of course the pain and confusion that those rumors cause. and that keeps people from seeking help that they very much need. but then there is a need to recognize that some people, you know, we're 10, 11 days into this. they are saying, hey, fema, please come to the hills in
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burnsville. we would like to see you here. and i think it's important to make that differentiation and have empathy and understanding for people who, you know, right now, they're sharing supplies, they're cooking meals for each other. it's about to get cold here. people are going to need more than just water bottles. they're going to neat blankets and winter coats. they lost everything in many cases. there's that level of need here. so while the federal government is making its way through all of these communities, i think people deserve to have their voices and concerns heard, too. >> antonia, thank you for that. so, matt, look, disinformation is very real and you put it in the vacuum of what we're seeing there, which is, first of all, people are occupied with other things besides trying to track down what is and isn't true. but then you have the second part of it, which is lack of communication, right, some people lost communication they have, they're still -- not
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everybody has it back. anyway, i want to play some of what donald trump has been saying about helene. >> they stole the fema money, just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season. this is the worst response in the history of hurricanes. >> uh, how does that play? how does that play in a very real sense? and how does that play in a political sense? >> well, first of all, it's just -- the lies that come out of donald trump's mouth on a daily basis is as much as you and i breathe in the course of this. so, but, the problem is that there's 40% of the country that seems to think that he -- that listens to him and thinks that he tells the truth on many things. here's the problem with this misinformation. and as antonia related, this is the problem. is a functional democracy depends on the ability to get to
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the common good through a common set of facts. and our health systems depend on it, as we saw during covid. and our natural response -- fema depends on it, when we're responding and government response. so the functioning of government depends on the ability for us to share a common set of facts and then to deal with it and act accordingly. when we have these conspiracies and all of this playing, and not only does it have a political effect and effects sort of people's perceptions of politicians in a right or wrong way in the course of this, and donald trump is playing on those fears through telling those lies, but it actually really, in a real way, affects the functionality of government in responding to this. if people believe a conspiracy and believe if they take money, somehow their land is going to be taken or they're going to owe it back, then they make decisions that actually could hurt themselves or hurt their neighborhoods or hurt their communities. the same exact thing that we saw when the spread of misinformation happened during covid and health crisis, people made decisions based on bad
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information. and actually many people in many communities were hurt by it. so that to me is, while, yes, there is a political effect, and yes, it broadly affects our democracy and people's ability to get to a common set of facts, more importantly and poignantly, it affects our actual ability to respond as a government to crises we have. >> matt dowd, first of all, love to your dad. >> thank you. >> we'll keep our fingers crossed for him. >> and you're sticking with us. >> coming up, speaker mike johnson refuses to acknowledge that former president trump lost in 2020. why that's raising questions about 2024. you're watching chris jansing reports, only on msnbc. g chris reports, only on msnbc it's what my family is all about. i thought i knew a lot about our irish roots. i was surprised to learn so many more things from ancestry. 1892. oh and here's the boat they came over on. there was a julie healy, a mary healy,
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with just 29 days until the 2024 election, for some republicans, 2020 is still in dispute. >> can you say unequivocally that joe biden won the 2020 election and donald trump lost? >> see, this is the game that is always played by mainstream media with leading republicans. it's a gotcha game. you want us to litigate things that happened four years ago when we're talking about the future. >> for the gop looking forward includes filing lawsuits, more than a hundred of them so far, tied to the upcoming election. it's one reason the harris campaign is warning that donald trump won't have aides keeping him in check for november. they've launched a new digital
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ad, using trump's own words from the most recent jack smith filing. nbc's dashya burns covers the trump campaign. matthew dowd is back with us. so, dasha, speaker johnson was pushed -- we only played a little bit of it -- repeatedly whether he agrees with trump's claim about the only way democrats will win the election is if they cheat. johnson wouldn't do it. he says, again, he's focused on the future. trump makes that same claim regularly, including yesterday, even this morning. what more can you tell us about this? >> yeah, chris, republicans who go on these shows and who get asked this question are really in a pickle, because they say they want to focus on the future, but it's former president trump that keeps making these claims about the 2020 election over and over and over again. and the reason is also tied to the future, because there's a direct line between his claims about 2020 and the election
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being stolen and his claims about 2024 and november and the election being stolen from him. he says this, makes these claims, i think, at every rally that i can recall, so far. and here's what he said in just the last 24 hours, listen. >> they're going to cheat, they cheat, that's all they want to do is cheat. and when you see this, it's the only way they're going to win. and we can't let that happen and we can't let it happen again. we're going to have no country. >> these guys go into an election and their first meeting is getting mark elias and all these people that they have and figuring out how to cheat. how do we cheat? that's all they think. >> reporter: at the same time, chris, he's been encouraging, as recently as just this morning, his voters to vote by mail and vote early, which are the methods that he himself has for a long time claimed led to the
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cheating of 2020. so there's a lot to unpack here and there's a reason that when republicans go on these shows, that they're asked these questions, chris. >> thank you very much, first of all, dasha. but he does call it gotcha questions. but how concerned should voters be that a man that holds such a powerful role in his party and led an attempt in congress in 2020 to overturn election results and keep battleground states still won't say, "donald trump lost"? >> it's amazing to me, when you watch that interview and listen to it, and he describes it as a gotcha question, and their definition of a gotcha question is far different than my definition of a gotcha question. i actually just think that trying to establish a set of facts about what happened in the last election since their leading nominee won while he was president, questioned the results, and two, every single day afterwards questioned the results, but they somehow think that -- mike johnson, the speaker, thinks it's a gotcha question. that it's the mainstream media's
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question that they somehow can't actually acknowledge a set of facts in the course of this. this is a huge problem, related to our last question, about when this kind of stuff spins out. when you have losers of elections who don't accept the results of election, democracy is contingent -- to have a democracy is contingent on that fact. the ability to have a loser to accept the results and move on and leave office and move on from this. we no longer have that. and it's a complete and utter art of projection that donald trump thinks that the only way that democrats win is if they cheat. when lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit and press release and press release after press release after 2000, they made up a set of facts, they made up information, they made up things in order to try to overturn an election. and of course, all of which, 60-plus court cases, were thrown out in this. but this is a huge problem when you have, again, 40 to 42% of the population who seems to accept this. and when we have a democracy
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that's based on like the winner wins and the loser accepts, we no longer have one side of the aisle, the republicans, whose willing to say, we'll accept if we lose. and that's a major problem. >> matthew dowd, always good to see you. thank you. >> you too. thank you, chris. one year after being taken hostage by hamas, the parents of israeli american omar nutra are praying for the day they'll see their son again. they have a message for both benjamin netanyahu and president biden. i'll ask them about that next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc ed to prer respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over
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israeli american omer neutra is one week away from spending his second birthday, his 23rd, not surrounded by friends and family, but in hamas captivity in gaza. the new york native was taken hostage on october 7th while serving as a tank commander in gaza. a day before, he made a typical call home to his parents. his mother told "the washington post," she remembered he sounded calm. one of omer's friends, haden roth, describes him, as quote, a big guy in stature with a big personality, someone who doesn't take himself too seriously. remembering omer's smile and laugh, roth says, he can't wait
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to see and hear those again. with me now are omer's parents, ronan and roma neutra. and ronan, we were just talking about how omer in hebrew translates to first crop. he is your first-born son. i read a lot about him this morning. i was amazed by many things , including the fact that he was captain of his high school football, soccer, and volleyball teams. a born leader. >> that's right. >> tell us more about him. >> well, omer is a combination of a goofy guy, a big guy that comes into the room and just welcomes everybody, and he has that leadership position that, or character that people are just gravitated towards him. he takes leadership position everywhere he goes. he was the captain of all of three sports team, but also he was a leader in his youth group.
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he was the regional president of the whole metro new york. a lot of kids know him and miss him and pray for him to come back. >> orna, every day, i see both of you with us, you wear that piece of masking tape, and now it says one year marking the day that your son was taken. your youngest son wrote very movingly in a piece that he penned, half your heart is held in captivity. how do you stay connected to hope? >> we have no choice, you know, we pray that omer is alive and he knows and he's counting on us. just before he was taken captive, one of his very good friends shared with us, after the fact, that they spend some time and were discussing their plans for the future, and that omer had shared with her, you know, things about his family and he said, if anything were to happen to me, then i know that my parents would do anything for
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me. and that's been our charge since -- this was two days before he was captured. so, you know, we have no choice. and we must keep up hope. it's mandatory, as rachel goldberg, hirsch's mom, said. >> you have told me that you have spent half of your time on the road, advocating for your son, for the hostages. 16 trips, ronan, to washington, d.c. what do you feel you can accomplish? because i can only imagine that after a year, there must be days when you think, frankly, you're beating your head against the wall. the stress, the emotion of it. and yet, you persist. >> you know, we're just normal people from long island, you know? and all of a sudden, you are thrown into one of the largest geopolitical crisises of our lifetime, especially in israel. and we have a role.
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we know that when leaders see us and hear us, they have were or we can charge them with the mission here and they know that they have to do something about it. so, we just want to keep being in front of them, push them, and we're looking for that strong leadership that will say, you know what, we are cutting a deal with the devil. hamas is not a nice group. it's a terrorist group. but you've got to cut the deal with the devil, in order to bring those 101 hostages. among them, seven americans. and it's long overdue. we are one year in. we know they are dying. we just heard a month ago that six americans -- six hostages, one of them, a dear american for us, because we know his family so well, goldberg, was murdered, executed. our kid, all of those people over there, children, grandparents, men, they all have
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such a limited time. and it's so complex and so risky that we have to cut a deal. >> do you let yourself, orna, imagine a reunion, that he's released and i wonder what you would even say to him. >> i don't think we need words, you know. we just need to be together. we just need to hold each other and we'll be okay after that. it's been such a roller-coaster of emotion. you know, of hope and despair. and we are so craving a reunion. one thing we've heard a lot over the past year, unfortunately, is that one ingredient that's missing is political will. and that's very discouraging, you know? if that's what we're missing, then that should be possible. and our leaders, like ronan said, should be strong leaders and make the difficult decisions to bring them home.
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they are so missed. you mentioned his friends before. so many have reached out to us and shared things about omer, you know, parts of him that we weren't aware of. he's missed by so many. >> i'm sure there are many people who are watching right now who wish that there was something they could do and perhaps that is your message, they can. they can make phone calls. they can let their political leaders know that they want this, that they want your reunion for you. and after one year, it is extraordinary to watch the strength and resilience that you have on behalf of your son. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back. avins >> thank you >> and we'll be right back discrt absorbs up to a cup full. with up to zero wet feel and odor. so i'm not just dry, i'm jump squats level dry. we've got you, always. always discreet. ♪ i'm gonna hold you forever... ♪ ♪ i'll be there... ♪
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. breaking news. the georgia supreme court just reinstated the state's six-week abortion ban beginning at 5:00 p.m., one week after a lower court ruled the law was unconstitutional. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now. this did literally just happen.
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what does it mean for people right now? what's the immediate impact? >> the immediate impact is the law is back in effect. georgia's six week ban, if women in georgia had an appointment after 5:00 p.m., to have al surgical abortion, that's no longer allow. it freezes the lower court's injunction of the law until and through all appeals are extinguished with respect to the lower court ruling. >> through all appeals, so what does that mean if you're a woman living in georgia right now? >> if you're a woman living in georgia, you're back to square one, perhaps not in a situation unlike that of amber thurman, the georgia woman who pro publica featured in their reporting. she was just past the six week mark when this law first took effect in july of 2022. she tried to obtain an abortion in a neighboring state and when she started bleeding out, she was unable to get emergency care
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back at the clinic, went back to georgia, tried to get emergency care there, and even as her doctors felt her life was threatened could not get the care she needed and deserved, chris, and ultimately died. >> msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin, again, the georgia supreme court reinstating the state's six-week abortion ban. it starts at five o'clock this afternoon. coming up, moments ago, we got a new update on hurricane milton heading toward florida. the new warning experts say how this storm has explosively intensified. stay close, we have the detailing coming up on "chris jansing reports" after this. s" . when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd
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the music stopped. one year after the october 7th attacks, mourners hold a moment

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