mayorkas. i know it's been a busy time for everyone. i appreciate you making time here. we were able to get some time for you as we wrap up this hour on msnbc. our coverage continues. our thanks to secretary for joining us. you've been watching "the beat" with ari melber. we urge everyone as we mentioned and tried to platform and cover to go to local authorities first, to keep an eye on the storm, go to government websites, if you have that kind of coverage if you're in an affected region and get official information there as well as from reputable, reliable national news sources. to everyone out there, we wish you the best with this difficult situation. "the reid out" is up next. ♪♪ tonight on "the reidout". >> my final message to the people of florida and all the impacted states, we got your back. we've got your back.

kamala and i will be there for as long as it takes to rescue, recover and rebuild. >> president biden sending a message of support to floridians as hurricane milton barrels towards the state with landfall expected in just the next few hours. plus, biden condemned the un -- the quote unquote, un-american misinformation about the federal storm response calling out trump and marjorie taylor greene by name for dispensing those lies. and trump's attempt to deny the bomb shell reporting that he sent covid tests to putin was unbelievably thwarted by the friends and the kremlin himself who said, yep, he did that. we begin tonight with hurricane milton barrelling towards the west coast of florida and set to make landfall in the next few hours. this is a nightmare scenario for more than 3 million people who live in the tampa bay area. which could see widespread destruction. 15 florida counties that are

home to more than 7 million people are under mandatory evacuation orders. local officials have been preparing for the worst. >> for those of you that were punched by hurricane helene, this is going to be a knockout. >> there will be trees down. there will be power lines down. it will be dangerous to move around. >> if you don't have a second story, you're going to die. >> there are 149 shelters open across the state, but the window to evacuate has closed. roadways are no longer safe to travel, and people are now being directed to shelter in place. emergency services have been suspended in at least five counties. the storm is set to cross central florida and will dump up to 18 inches of rain, which could lead to up to 15 feet and storm surges. the hurricane is bringing tropical storm force winds with wind gusts near ft. myers, hitting almost 70 miles an hour. many cities up and down the coast have spent the day racing

to collect and dispose of the 3,000 truckloads of debris left after helene because they could become projectile dangers once the wind picks up. over 100 tornadoes were recorded throughout the state, a record number for florida in a single day. president biden and vice president harris spent the damon toring the situation as they received briefings from national emergency officials who are ready to deploy. late this afternoon, biden had his message -- had this message for floridians and those affected by helene. >> currently milton is a category 3, with wind speeds up to 120 miles per hour. but no one should be confused, it's still expected to be one of the most and worst destructive hurricanes to hit florida in over a century. milton still carries incredible destructiveness, can wipe out communities, can cause loss of life.

>> president biden sent the head of fema to tallahassee to assist governor ron desantis during the storm. however, every disaster response starts at the local level and ends at the local level. florida governor ron desantis deployed 9,000 national guard members, the largest in the history of florida, as well as over 50,000 utility workers and highway patrol to escort gasoline tankers to refill gas supplies that have dwindled as people evacuated. >> i've spoken to the president. we remain in regular contact with fema. and we are marshalling all available resources to be able to prepare and respond to hurricane milton. if there are a lot of people that do stay behind, unfortunately there will be fatalities. i don't think there's any way around it when you have storm surge that could be 10 feet. >> he joined the president and the dhs secretary in slamming the lies that are being spread about fema. >> the last few weeks there's

been a reckless irresponsible and relentless promotion of disinformation and outright lies that are disturbing people. it's undermining confidence in the incredible rescue and recovery work that has already been taken and will continue to be taken. >> we live in an era where if you put out crap online you can get a lot of people to share it and you can monetize that. that's just the way it is. >> we certainly do have all of the resources we are well positioned to continue to respond to hurricane helene, to respond to hurricane milton. mr. president, we are meeting the moment. >> i'm joined now by nbc news correspondent sam brock in ft. myers, florida. sam, i know this is a generic question, but it's important. what are you seeing on the ground right now? are people off the roads? are all restaurants closed? or are there still people sort of milling about, trying to get their last preparations together before the storm hits?

>> reporter: yeah, it's a simple question, jason. it's a great question. far too late right now for folks to be first hitting the road to try to get to those shelters. where we right now in lee county, there are 13 of them. we got an update from lee county officials today the day before, it had been 1,600 people populaing their shelters. as this afternoon, 7,000. good thing in the sense, they have been pleading with a lot of the residents to not stay in the low-lying area. where i am in ft. myers to orient you, over my shoulder is the river and bridge there that takes you to north ft. myers. this is still inland, jason. if you go 8, 10 miles out, there's a cluster of barrier islands, exactly what people sort of think about in their mind's eye when they envision paradise in florida, long beaches, glistening water, thousands of people that live on these clusters of islands, ft. myers beach, tragically two years ago suffered a huge hit from hurricane ian. but there are so many others.

right? the storm surge, you talk about the primary factor right now of concern, is 8 to 12 feet. that's the projections out there where there's some images right now we need to confirm them, from specifically ft. myers beach and times square the heart beat of that area, where you're already seeing the water, jason, come up to the point where, you know, there's buildings, coastal businesses that are sitting right there that have all been rebuilt, it's already rising and early reminiscent of what we saw a couple years ago. i'm not saying it will be to the same extent at all. the river other my shoulder right now, we were reporting for "nightly news" a second ago, that was rising to street level. high tide isn't until 8:00 in the morning tomorrow. so, you just wonder what the next few hours are going to have in store for people here. in terms of just the total population, 800,000, 416,000 are under mandatory evacuation. here is the key right now for those folks that did not listen, our desk has been doing an amazing job reaching out to all the different governments and municipalities to find out what

their first responders are doing. in sarasota, manatee county, charlotte county, they are no longer providing emergency response right now because they have exceeded their threshold of 45 miles per hour sustained winds. they don't want to risk their lives to try to save people the middle of tropical storm conditions much less when they deteriorate beyond that which is to say the folks out there now in these low-lying areas in their homes, sadly they're on their own for the next day or so. that's the latest on the ground. getting back to your question of where things stand. >> sam brock, thank you so much for that detailed analysis. please stay safe out there. >> reporter: thank you. appreciate it. >> i'm joined now by nbc correspondent jesse kirsch in sarasota, florida. jesse, same question. i know this sounds generic, what are you seeing on the ground? how are people preparing? are folks still milling about or is everyone sort of locked in for the night? what's on the ground? >> reporter: yeah. well, first off, jason, we're

actually not on the ground. we're multiple stories up explicitly the concern of storm surge. just beyond me, that's sarasota bay beyond the buildings. we're looking at potentially as much as 13 feet of storm surge sweeping inland. there are barrier island areas out along causeway that have been shut down or i should say were shut down. we saw police lights flashing throughout the day. i don't know if you can see that. we're getting green flashes of light, an indication of an issue with a power transformer here. as i'm looking back, i'm actually yet again seeing a car coming over the causeway, back to the inland -- to the mainland from this area that officials had told people should be evacuated and they have been blocking off access to even cut off the water. but if you can believe it, i have actually seen multiple vehicles heading out on to that barrier island area and we are at this point within hours of landfall. and it's, of course, a bit of a guessing game in the timeline has been accelerated. i'll now point this way. i don't know if you can see because it's starting to get

darker. there's a series of palm trees pretty tall, pretty wide palms right here along this side street. and we've been seeing the winds ripping individual palms off of those trees. and they're scattered around. i'll ask my photographer, david, to pull out a little bit. and you can see a wall right next to me. we are inside of a parking garage. typically we go out even in these conditions and frankly far more deteriorated conditions, but we are explicitly spending time in a more covered area for this storm because of the concern about debris. we've been talking about that for days now. we are less than two weeks since hurricane helene made landfall in the same area. that means people have been ripping things like mattresses, furniture, floor boards, ruined picture frames, all of that and more has been placed on people's lawns. and according to the governor of florida, only around 50% of that debris was able to be retrieved, even with crews working 24/7 in recent days. if you can imagine, all of that becomes projectiles in the high winds and a battering ram for

the storm surge, which again is expected to be well above my head if i was standing on the ground at where it crashed on to shore. jason? >> wow. thank you so much, jesse kirsch. please, please, please be safe out there. much appreciated. i'm joined now by nbc news meteorologist angie lassman. angie, this is horrifying. and i can say both not just in watching the news but having family that are fleeing the area, going as far north as charlotte, many people have evacuated what they think is going to be the main path of the storm. what are the people who are either incapable or refuse to leave the area, what are they potentially facing tonight? >> yeah, jason, i like you have lots of family and friends and people i care across that live across this state. unfortunately, you're right. it's a wide area of people that will be impacted now through essentially early tomorrow morning. and the conditions haven't improved a whole lot. we kind of have our forecast set

in stone for some storm surge. the heavy rainfall, of course, the strong winds, all of those will be baked into this forecast here from now through the rest of the night. as we get closer to landfall. we still got a category 3 hurricane. notice it's not looking as healthy as it did if you were watching maybe earlier this morning. it's north loaded, it's front loaded. all of the heaviest of the rain, all the strongest of the winds are on the north side of the eye wall and points north of that. we have unhealthy looking structure to the south of that eye wall, but that doesn't change the fact that we've got really strong winds on the backside of that that are going to shove a bunch of water up towards the coast. but south of where that system comes on shore, where the eye comes on shore, we still got the winds at 120 miles per hour and it's moving northeast at 15 miles per hour. so we moved up landfall time. if you haven't been paying attention over the past 24 hours, we expected it to be a little later. but this thing just didn't slow down like we thought. so we're going to see probably landfall here in the next couple of hours somewhere around the sarasota to venice to up to st.

pete area. here is what we're dealing with right now. really deteriorating conditions across the tampa bay area. we have heavy, heavy rain, torrential rain happening from tampa to points south of that. sarasota not quite as heavy of rain. notice, you're only 30 miles away from the center of that system. but this is essentially you know you're not seeing a whole lot out of the window if anyone did stay in this area. we're only going to see it deteriorate more and more as the night goes on. one thing that we're going to watch closely is where exactly the center of that comes on shore. as i mentioned, it's the right side of the system where all of the worse of the storm surge is expected. so, whether we have 9 to 13 feet of storm surge for the sarasota area and points south of that, lito, key, i know a lot of people love to visit those spots, that will be -- if we see the center of the system come on shore right about here. if it's a little farther to the north, which we know it has taken those wobbles all day long, a little north, a little south, if it goes farther to the north and crosses in the mouth

of tampa bay, that would mean we would be looking at more of that kind of impactful storm surge for folks across the tampa bay. we still have a little bit of time until that kind of comes into better focus, but we're going to be keeping a close eye over the next two hours as we gear up for landfall. the wind field is more confined than what we saw with helene when it comes to hurricane force winds. they extend 35 miles out from the center. notice the tropical storm force winds across the entire state at this point essentially. we've gotten 66 miles per hour wind gusts already in st. pete. this is going to be something we see continue to worsen, jason, as the night goes on. 127 mile-per-hour winds are possible for sarasota. we'll know that wind damage will come with that and on top of that we have the flash flooding the heavy rainfall and, of course, those tornadoes that we'll be watching through the night as well. so multi-impact event. >> angie lassman, thank you for breaking down what the dangers are that people are facing in florida right now. thank you. >> of course. i'm joined now by michaelman, presidential distinguished professor of earth

and environmental sciences at the university of pennsylvania, director of the penn center for science and author of "our fragile moment" how lessons from earth's past can help us survive the climate crisis. professor mann, i'll start with this. i am not a meteorologist. i don't often watch the weather channel, but i know danger when i see it. i have been paying attention to the news. i have family and friends affected by this. what are we looking at in context right now? the term storm of the century gets thrown out from time to time. is that what we're looking at? are we looking at something that we have not seen before and could have consequences to lives, to infrastructure, to the environment that we've never seen or haven't seen in a life time of those people watching? >> yeah, hi, jason. good to be with you. and what we're witnessing is tragic and is the consequence of our on going burning of fossil fuels and the warming of the oceans. that extra heat in the oceans

means that there's more energy available to intensify these storms. the peak winds speeds increased by about 12% for each degree celsius, that's like nearly 2 degrees fahrenheit. each 2 degrees fahrenheit of warming you get roughly 12% increase in those maximum wind speeds. and the destructive potential of the storm actually scales as the third power of the wind speed, which means that 12% increase in wind speed corresponds to a 40% increase in the destructive potential, the power that is dissipated by this storm, the damage that's done. and so there's the intensity of this storm, there's the storm surge, which is a consequence of the intensity of the storm, the size of the storm. the fact that it was a cat 5 storm out there for several days, built up a very large storm surge. so don't be fooled by the fact that it has weakened a bit by the last 24 hours or so.

the storm surge that threatens the west coast of florida was built up over several days. we're going to see nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, maybe 14 foot storm surge in some locations along the west coast between tampa, sarasota. so, this is a tragedy that's unfolding. and it's a tragedy that was created in part by our continued burning of fossil fuels and the warming of the planet that's caused. >> professor mann, i'm old enough to remember when we talked about global warming when i was a kid and turned into climate change and i think a lot of people didn't understand that climate change didn't mean that things were automatically going to get hotter, it also meant more extreme weather. talk a little bit about what the consequences are of the increased frequency of these kinds of storms, because the fact that we are two weeks away from helene, the fact that there

were over 100 tornadoes reported in one day in one particular state, if this becomes the norm, what kind of world are we looking at in vast swaths of land in the united states? >> yeah. and i'll tell you, you know, what we're witnessing now we're sort of stuck with. we're stuck with this new normal. that's a best case scenario. that's a scenario where we stop burning fossil fuels, stop warming up the planet further. then we're sort of stuck with this extreme weather events that we have seen summer after summer, these devastating, stronger, more flood-producing hurricanes. we're sort of stuck with this. but we can still -- we're still within our adaptive, you know, capacity. we can adapt to the changes that we've witnessed thus far. it's going to take, you know, quite a bit of investment. and there's going to be suffering and harm that's done. we're seeing that play out. this is a level of warming we can probably adapt to. but if we continue the warm up

the planet even more, pretty soon we're going to exceed our level of resilience. so that's really the problem. these extreme weather events become more extreme. these hurricanes become stronger. the flooding becomes worse. helene produced 50% more rain fall than it would have if we hadn't warmed up the planet. there was a study that came out just last week that demonstrated that. and we know hundreds of people died from that interior flooding, flooding in various states of the southeastern u.s. that means people are dying because of the warming of the planet that is exacerbated these events. we're already seeing catastrophic consequences. >> michael mann, thank you for that sobering but very important message about what we're facing as a planet. much appreciated. >> thank you. coming up, harris national media blitz is striking a major cord with the former president. who has taken to social media to complain and lash out at the vice president, the networks and

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without asking. you asked for miller high life. i'm just curious -- >> okay. the last time i had beer was at a baseball game with doug. >> cheers. >> cheers. >> there you go. >> that was vice president kamala harris last night, having a bore on the "late show" with stephen colbert, wrapping up her 48-hour media blitz where she appeared on a variety of traditional and nontraditional outlets from the "call her daddy" pod cast to howard stern and "60 minutes" donald trump dropped out of his "60 minutes" interview. her interview was sliced and diced he is now adding cbs to the long list of entities he has grievances against and claims he will investigate should he get a second term. this includes abc news for daring to fact check him during last months debate and goggle

for only showing the bad stories about him. in the meantime, some of trump's former employees and fellow republicans are in pennsylvania right now. liz cheney, cassidy hutchinson all of whom worked for trump and his administration are hosting an ent in the philadelphia suburbs making the case against their former boss. joining me now to discuss the jonathan allen, nbc news senior national politics reporter, maria coumar, msnbc contributor and rick tyler, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. so excited to have all of you at the table today. i'll start with this because i think for people who don't pay attention to politics, right, they're listening to podcasts. they're listening to howard stern. they care about things like what's happening with stephen colbert. rick, i'll start with you. how effective do you think it is for the harris campaign to have done all of this in 48 hours, right? this wasn't spread out through

the week. it was a massive, massive blitz at the beginning of this week to get to all these sort of nontraditional outlets. >> look, i think it's enormously effective. these are where the people are. the media will complain and i'll complain about the media a little bit here, she's not going on the substantive, hard news, answering the hard questions. but as a political operative, i'm not putting my people out in front of the hard news, hard -- in the last days of the campaign to mess it up. people have an instinctive nature about candidates whether they like them or not. when you have a beer with stephen colbert, it's a fairly likable moment. i think it's very smart and very effective. the other thing the media likes to do, they like to do these debates and say at the end of the debate, there was no substance. i'm sorry, you can't give a substantive answer in two minutes with one minute responses. have a lincoln douglas debate and let them talk for two hour. no, that won't get ratings.

media, you can't have it both ways. >> i understand. when people want policy substance, there's a website for that. you can find out that information if you care about it. maria, this is the other thing that strikes me about these sort of soft interviews, et cetera, et cetera. i remember in 2012, one of the most important surveys and polls that i saw was asking the question whether you have barack obama or mitt romney baby sit your kids. which one do you think would be more likely to stop their car and help you if you had a flat tire and which one would you rather go on a road trip with. and believe it or not, obama only one two out of the three. >> which one did he lose? >> believe it or not, people thought that romney would be slightly better baby sitting. >> barack obama were around in a wagon in high school. i want to go on the road trip with him. >> i thought so as well. >> they hadn't heard about the dog strapped to the roof of the car. >> that had not come out yet. so what do you think the voters -- the supposed skeptical

voters we have of harris, what did they get from her drinking a beer? to me, most of these questions have already been answered but there are still people affected by this. what do you think they're picking up? >> they're the low-information voter who is not turning into the mainstream media talking about these really tough interviews that people who are watching the main, tough interviews, they've already decided. what she is trying to do say, yes, i'm drinking a beer, by the way, don't forget that i'm going to lower your cost of healthcare. don't naergt you're drinking that beer and i'm giving you a $6,000 tax credit for your first beer. i'm drinking that beer. she is weaving in her policies to folks not tuning in because a lot of these folks are saying, politics is getting too icky. she is going where they are and weaving in her policy and making her likable. >> and drinking a union beer. look, there's one thing that kamala harris has nailed. she knows exactly who she's talking to. and she needs to win back voters that the democrats lost to trump.

and you see them. you see them in the rural areas and the signs are out, people don't have two nickels to rub together, they lost -- she needs to. >> she has two folks. she also needs to grow the youth vote. >> right. >> because it's the youth vote that overcompensates for the folks that are saying i'm not quite sure. i would actually say that she's -- the chunk of the independent white voters she has already won. her job is to focus on the youth voter. >> that's what i was thinking of. when i hear there's a slew of republicans in suburban pennsylvania, suburban philadelphia, that's fine. these are all your nice people. they're going to go home, watch this, watch "the view" like "abbott elementary," the real question is working class white guys who are uncomfortable with

voting for a black woman to be president of the united states. is this kind of media blitz talking to them? because it doesn't seem like any of these shows that she's been on the last 48 hours are speaking to that group. >> well, look -- >> go ahead. >> i apologize. >> no need to apologize. first of all, i want to say drinking a miller highlife is implicit contrast because she's trying to suggest to people that trump is a low life. >> that's pretty good. that's deep. that's a multi-level chess there. okay. >> but in terms of -- look, if you're talking about working class white guys who don't want a black woman president, she's not going to reach them. >> right. >> but if you're talking about people who are open and in that demographic, then i think that matters a lot. and somebody -- is this somebody who relates to me. >> she is currently advertising on talk radio, in pennsylvania. >> right. >> right wing talk radio, sean hannity. she's advertising on those things. that's very significant. democrats don't usually do that.

>> and i also think that folks are trying to find a permission structure. by her going there, she's giving men and giving young people permission structure of actually trying to break those norms. we just came out of the field with a poll. one of the things that we found is that young latino men in places like pennsylvania and texas were holding on to conservative values. when we dug in deeper, it was more of like, well, can she balance the checkbook. but your mother balances the checkbook, right? how do you actually create permission structures for them to be open to the fact that her gender might be impeding her when she has actually been able to demonstrate she knows how to do the job. >> getting on talk radio, getting on conservative talk radio, radio often listened to across long, rural stretches of pennsylvania, the democrats have been trying to solve for a long time. the margin of their losses in rural areas. right? she's not going to win all those big county. >> you don't want to be blown out of the water. >> she wants to change that margin. >> counts a big deal. this is what campaign

strategists, we'll tluz. >> the votes you get are the ones that you win because they add up to the whole. >> and the problem they have is they keep making efficiency decisions, right? efficiency decision is always going to be let's put our ad in philadelphia. let's make sure that the candidate goes to philadelphia because there are more people. totally oversaturated. to your point, sometimes you have to go out in one rural area, this is a bill clinton thing that matters now, if you go out in one rural area, not only are you going to get the attention from that local media but people in nearby towns will also hear that you're there and they'll go, okay, this is somebody -- i might not agree with them but somebody who cares enough to show up. >> maria, i have to ask this really quickly because we're running out of time. what was the biggest take away from your polling out there with latino men. men of color is an area where the harris campaign really has to make a push. real quick. >> they need a permission structure. the moment we can demonstrate -- particularly important for young latino men that their mothers

are making these big decisions for they household every single day. just like their mothers on their side, so is kamala harris. that was all of a sudden -- was a game changer for them. they need to hear about the economy but through the lens your mother is strong, she was basically the one that was able to bring you up, so can kamala. >> hopefully they don't have any deep resentment towards their moms when it's voting time. >> no, no, no. >> thank you all so much. this was fantastic. coming up, the kremlin is throwing trump's denial back in his face. saying he did send covid tests to putin during his presidency and at the height of the pandemic. plus, we're continuing to follow the latest on hurricane milton, the monster storm slamming into the west coast of florida. stay with us. it's "the reidout."

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♪♪ you know you've reached peak absurdity when bob woodward reports that donald trump sent vladimir putin covid tests at the beginning of the pandemic. remember, back when barely any tests were available, causing a massive public health emergency? but now the kremlin has thrown trump under the bus by confirming wood ward's reporting. kremlin backing bob woodward, reminding us once again that donald trump really has no friends. wood ward's new book titled "war" reveals just how chatty

trump got with putin. claiming trump has spoken with putin as many as seven times since he left the white house, including as recently as this year. look, in any other campaign, this would have been an october surprise. but as we've learned, donald trump is perhaps the only candidate in u.s. history whose fondness of the putin is strangely dangerously no big deal to his supporters. late today, president biden commented about woodward's report that trump sent putin covid tests, saying trump was un-american. i'm joined now by ruth bin-gyat, author of "strong men" mussolini to the present. ruth, i'll start with you. i always like having these conversations, even though they leave us depressed and concerned, what does it say about donald trump that he is continued -- look, the idea of world leaders continuing relationships after they left office is not new. right?

tony blare and bill clinton continue to be friends. it's not that we haven't seen this before. but what does it say about donald trump's continued relationship with putin given the fact that putin has continued a war against ukraine, which is a u.s. ally, and yet trump is still texts with him back and forth? >> well, trump is somebody who is very personally tied to putin and has been tied to russia in general for a very long time. and if we look -- take a broad lens on this, you know, the kremlin, their propaganda machine is not just about getting people outside of russia to believe this or that lie, it's actually about getting foreigners to see the world in ways that benefit the kremlin. and to that end, putin has had various world leader partners, german, and now trump who is the most consequential because of the size and power of america. and many, many things that trump

does are actually benefit putin, such as withdrawing -- wanting to withdraw from nato. and you know, vaunting his personal influence over putin, even though putin has him regularly mocked on russian tv to show who is actually the boss. so this is a kind of -- the kremlin, you know, validating that putin was sending -- sorry, that trump was sending putin covid tests is puncturing donald trump's ego he's the big influencer of autocrats in the world. >> ruth, that's what sort of strikes me. to the degree that russia would like to see and putin particularly would like to see trump back in office, why would they confirm this? why would they basically say, yes, i got donald trump eating out of my hands, above and beyond the fact that domestically this is a former president who didn't want to send covid tests to blue states that didn't vote for him. wouldn't this work counter to

russia's goal to make trump look strong? >> because just as trump, you know, does ritual humiliation of gop elites and embarrasses them and then they come back for more, there's a kind of chain that same dynamics happen among world leaders. and putin does this routinely to other world leaders, even if he requires their assistance. he makes them wait for hours before he sees them. and he does this with both democratic leaders and autocratic leaders. and so, trump -- he's telling the world that trump is his partner, but he is always going to be superior to trump and actually is exposing that he's using trump as a show of his dominance. that's the psychological and social mechanism here. >> this sort of public ego flogging and say doe masochism

is bizarre between these men. i want to play sound from vice presidential candidate jd vance about these conversations with putin and former president trump and get your thoughts on the other side. >> so, have i talked to donald trump about his calls with vladimir putin? no. i've never had that conversation with donald trump in my life. but if donald trump -- even if it's true, look, is there something wrong with speaking to world leaders? no? is there anything wrong with engaging in diplomacy? >> ruth, i've got to point out for the conspiracy theorists out there who say, no, no, no trump will get into office, we'll get rid of him 25th and jd vance is better. jd vance is an equal, useful idiot or bought into the same nonsense. what does it say that the vice presidential candidate is not only ignoring the significance of trump communicating with putin, but acting like the fact that he doesn't know doesn't matter.

>> yeah. this is like plausible deniability because, you know, the idea that trump is engaging in diplomacy, this is flattering trump, though. because one of trump's propaganda points that is also circulated by victor orban abroad is that he's the only thing standing -- not only against -- between america failing but also world war iii. there's this idea that trump must get into office to preserve peace and autocrats have a #peaceorban. every time he goes to see putin or xi jinping he shares social media with the #peace. autocrats will keep the peace and we need donald trump in office to avoid world war iii. and so, vance is kind of advancing this idea that donald trump is a great diplomat. >> which is absolute nonsense. ruth, thank you so much for joining us tonight on "the

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hurricane milton. the eyewall is now moving, is moving in now on the tampa bay region at florida's gulf coast. many in the projected path haven't even recovered from hurricane helene. the cities up and down the gulf coast still bearing debris. today president biden called out the offenders by name. >> former president trump has led this onslaught of lies. property is being confiscated. it's simply not true. there saying people impacted by these storms have received $750 in cash and no more. that is simply not true either. what are they talking about? it is outrageous, it's just not

true. the claims are getting even more bizarre. the congressman from georgia is now saying the federal government is literally controlling the weather, we are controlling the weather, it's beyond ridiculous, it's so stupid. he was director of florida's management from 2019 to 2021. thank you for joining us this evening. i'm going to start with this. is this true, this is nonsense you shouldn't believe any of this information. this sort of thing is spreading, what is the impact.

>> that has always been disaster politics the misinformation that we are seeing being put out now is very dangerous. that's really where it is headed, fema doesn't have money because we sent money to lebanon, that is a different department. the reason they had north carolina is that they sent it there i've never in my lifetime seen a hurricane develop, you're right, it happened over

100 years ago. there are aliens watching and looking at all of this, they can definitely confirm there is no intentional congress talking about a weather machine it's very dangerous, while people are trying to evacuate, making it best for their family. they are trying to cause more confusion amongst america. >> foreign actors involved in this, what is the benefit. marjorie taylor green, what is

the benefit of ensuing chaos in the middle of a natural disaster. is it just because people engagement online, what is the strategy behind lying and we are just going to make it disappear. >> i don't know if it helps a political party, does that mean donald trump use the weather machine and sent them to puerto rico, there is a stupidity benefit for her and people want to listen to her, it's really dangerous when we are trying to save lives and trying to not have an emergency personnel and having to get people out of the second floor of the house or off the roof because he wanted them to listen, we wanted them to trust government officials

who are giving them this advice, one of the things we are seeing is that people don't trust government institutions anymore. maybe don't listen to them anymore because you don't have any trust in government institution, that is what they are doing, when russia and china see that's what they're putting out, don't think they don't have accounts that amplify that, they are amplifying those accounts and so this is something the emergency industries had to deal with we dealt with it tremendously in covid >> i just wanted the public to understand the same government that is competent probably hasn't created a weather

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