trump has different issues. he obviously still in his energy and he obviously is loud and bombastic. that hasn't changed. if you watch the speech patterns and you can see some differences. >> it such important work and you and i have had conversations many times about why joe biden drew so much attention for his age and his verbal missteps, shall we say, and donald trump seemed to avoid that. you correctly note part of this is because donald trump project such volume. it's easy to assume that he is more with it. let's talk a little more about the rhetoric itself in terms of the call -- we talked about it this morning. these calls for violence and these dangerous claims about hurricane response is, or even as we heard over the weekend, this idea with no evidence whatsoever that democrats were behind or inspired the assassination attempt against him. the impact of this really can't

be overstated. >> absolutely. there's no filter here. it used to be that politicians knew they had to be careful what they said, because they went too far and there would be a price to pay. there would be a blowback. and there doesn't seem to be that in the case of donald trump. now why is that? it's a good question. i mean, in the end, a lot of democrats turn their eyes away from bidens problems for an awful long time until they had to confront it because of his debate performance, and then decided it is not tenable. we can't have a candidate for president who -- he would be 86 at the end of his second term. republicans have not had that moment with trump. they have not decided this, and this is a problem. if they need to replace him on the ballot, not likely to happen at this point. so part of it is that the democrats decided to deal with

their aging candidate, and the republicans decided they are perfectly happy with her aging candidate. and also, part of that is because there are so many other issues with trump that we tend to follow. his criminal issues. he has been convicted of 34 felonies. the threats do not recognize the election. there are so many issues that, you know, are involved when you talk about trump's candidacy, at his age doesn't often get to the top of the list, but has been a concern of voters for a long time. about 51% or so think they are concerned with his age, he is 78. he will be 82 at the end of his second term. >> coming up, a fixture of republican politics just cast a vote for kamala harris. al kyle dennis explains why just ahead morning joe. e runnil business takes a lot. that's why we're the "think outside the box" store. the "help protect your privacy" store. and the "give your business a real street address" store.

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>> for those not as familiar, just simply saying he's the chairman of the florida gop is an understatement. i mean that. al was the florida republican party for decades, and i remember -- you giving your life to promoting republican ideas. i remember seeing you in walton county, in santa rosa, all the counties. and you are tirelessly working,

but now you've made a decision that cheney, liz cheney, kim edelman, over 100 people -- bush 41, bush 43, and even the trump administration have made. it's so important, i believe -- tell me why you did it. what move you to make such a dramatic -- dramatic step? >> will thanks, joe. i will give you two recent examples. one, i knew i wasn't going to vote for donald trump. in addition to the intellectual diminishing with a previous speaker on your show, it was pretty obvious that he's just not a good person. i had made that decision. but actually voting for the harris/tran17 may be doing it with -- both of which i am very familiar with. one is national disasters.

that has always been a bipartisan issue. both democrats and republicans have worked together to assist people in harms way. you know, the white house asked congress to pass a bill -- a supplemental bill to really help people with these disasters, because we may be running out of cash. all of a sudden, well, they are giving that money to illegal immigrants. not true. there are various parts of fema that are funded separately, and natural disasters is one of them. when andrew hit florida, which has been one of many, i worked hand-in-hand with george h.w. bush's administration and the democratic governor. he's always had bipartisan spirit. everyone wanted to help those in harms way. well, the trump operatives are already lying about fema not having resources, about fema not going over. the white house asked congress

to meet before a supplemental bill, to pass a supplemental bill for fema. call us after november 5th. the second one was, with immigration, they have a bipartisan bill put together in order to stop the intrusions. but oh, no. trump had to tell the republicans not to pass it, because it was not in his best interest. so we have a porous border now. there's nothing that's important to our citizens that trump doesn't weigh in terms of his own illness. i just can't vote or support someone like that. and i feel like harris and walz might not be my ideal ticket, but they're not going to put america and hall's way . i made a decision for me, and there are many others. i'm sorry that your dad is not

around. our country could really use him. >> me to. i think about that all the time, especially on the world stage right now. it is really great to have you on the show and have you as an example of choosing country over party, like liz cheney did. i think for some very high- level republicans, former and present, in terms of service, it might be a difficult decision. maybe even deeply personal and it may be complicated. are there some republicans that are really well-known that you wish would step up and make the choice publicly, country over party? >> sure. my good friend, mitt romney, who is a moderate by and large but well-liked, a republican presidential nominee would be one. a lot of our leadership in the house and senate i know feel the same way i do.

many who have retired have retired because they could not work with, you know, a trump administration, or with trump supporters. this whole idea about, you know, embracing -- you know, these platitudes that we now have with trump, it's a world of hate. in america, we have always found opportunities to have bipartisan unity whenever it is crucial for the country. that will not exist if donald trump gets elected. we are going to run into a period of time of great risk for america globally, and a lot of challenges domestically. i don't think that our country can survive four years of donald trump being oblivious to the constitution, king oblivious to the word of law, beating oblivious to the importance of our institutions. i am very confident with my vote and i think it's a vote to preserve american values. >> it is the antithesis of reagan. the personal hatred that is spewed.

and i am with john kasich, who -- you know, i don't hate donald trump. i just -- his policies are bad for america, and that's why he said he couldn't vote for donald trump. i've been reading some conservative things, that conservatives used always believe. the conservative mind always on my desk in congress. both the impulse to improve and the impulse to conserve are necessary. whether we join our energies to the party of progress or the party a permanent must depend on the circumstances of the time. and i think about the circumstance when david france and others like you take this bold decision based on the circumstances of the time. i ask you to explain this for americans who may not understand, for americans who may not understand, you are

looking through the lens of a man whose family fled a dictatorship. talk about the circumstances in these times and your fears. >> well, joe, when we joined the reagan revolution, it was based on policy. it was based on the fact that we believe in conservative policies. and so, you know, we had a revolution. we had a change, but it was based on policy. and now this cold, the trump colt, is not based on policy. it's based on fear mongering and based on appealing to our lower interest. it's based on diminishing the importance of what made our nation great. respect for our laws, respect for others. and you can't join a bandwagon that is based on separating our country by and telling your and hatred on the backs of americans. it's not healthy, it hasn't happened a long time, and it's very difficult and cancer is for our country survival. i, quite frankly -- even every

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cannot wait to talk about this book in just a minute. may i ask you though about unpredictability? financial markets don't like unpredictable leaders. what about allies of the united dates? >> they hate it. the saying in finance is, money is a coward, meaning it flows away from unpredictability and danger. and it's the same with alliance is. the less predictable you are, the more likely it is that your allies will start looking for other options. and potentially, the greatest comparative advantage for the united states is this glittering network of allies. not only nato, but japan, australia, new zealand, south korea. together, we comprise 65% of the worlds gdp. we don't want to scare them away. we want to be solid, steady, and reliable. >> what are you hearing from leaders around the world?

military leaders, and also diplomatic leaders about the possibility of donald trump returning to the white house? just on the question of alliances and predictability. >> precisely the concern. i will leave the political calculus to experts on morning joe, but in my wheelhouse, cyber alliances, warfare, all of that network, there is deep concern about specifically that. the unpredictability. let's remember north korea. one minute, it is little rocket man who is going to face fire and fury, and the next minute, they are exchanging the most beautiful love letters in the world. you can't run a foreign-policy like that. you can't maintain alliances, and you cannot be ready for the world that is coming. >> let's turn though to the middle east. you heard from president biden

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i mean, that's all i can think of. my favorite was nikki haley, who -- god bless her. her head was completely disagreeing with her mouth. it was. her mouth is saying vote for trump, and her head was like -- her head was like, what are you talking about? shut the -- up. >> that was comedian larry wilmore speaking on hbo's real time with hilmar back in offering his thoughts on this year's republican national convention. now let's get his thoughts on the election as it stands right now. larry joins us now. he's an emmy award winner and executive producer. what's going on in america? >> i try to make the distinction between america and -- i love america. i'm a proud patriot. i think most americans are good

people. and that's where you get the divisiveness. that's where you get twitter. that's where you get the squeaky wheel. america has all the problems that america is like -- come on. we could do better than this. that's kind of the distinction. >> i love that. tell us more about the show. >> a lot of people don't know that i do magic. >> i did not see that coming. >> exactly. i've done it since i was a kid. >> i normally do close-up magic, but i wanted to do so integrating. and a lot of things that people really can't understand. it's one of the shows where people are going, what i want to see? and mixing it with commentary about politics and culture. because i've never seen that type of mix of those performance. >> larry, i have known you for a while, and i will never

forget you at the white house correspondents dinner. i found out that night that you hosted. what do you hope people come out of your show with, other than relaxing, laughing, and remembering america? what do you know when they walk out the door that they have in there? >> it makes you feel so good to say, we have more in common than what is different. we have more that unites us than divides us. the divisive stuff is louder. i was very fortunate when i was in college, i sold books door- to-door back in rhode island. i got to go to many people's homes now and then. i found that most americans are pretty good people. most americans really just want to help you out. it's one of the things i talk about in the show. it frustrates me that your average american person, they are not loud.

it used to be the opposite. a lot of the divisive voices, remember the silent majority? the majority used to be different. used to be more of what has become the loud minority now. you know, those types of voices that speak out that are divisive voices and that sort of thing. now the silent majority i think is more reasonable. most americans -- the majority of americans are reasonable on abortion. >> men and women. >> correct. it's not a gender issue. most people know it's a private decision. most people don't want anybody else involved in something as complicated as an issue like that. >> that's all the time we have today. we are back tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. east to bring you more of the week's highlights. stick around for the weekend. that is up next. next. ♪♪