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vice president harris is working to solidify her support with latino voters. this week she participated in a town all with spanish-language giant univision. latino support harris by a wide margin but according to national polls she is underperforming joe biden's levels from the 2020 election. >> literally, having a choice as the american people about choosing a path, either that is about rule of law, democracy, or something that is about admiring dictators and autocracy. ♪ ♪ >> josi deas, we heard him on our air yesterday on he really made the case there is not a latino vote but there are

latino voters. i just wanted to repeat what he said. >> and the thing you both constantly remind me is an electorate is always in flux. the electric we are seeing today, as we see barack obama on the trail, only 50 percent voters who were registered to vote today were registered to vote in 2008. you talk about latinos, only 30% of registered latino voters today were registered to vote in 2008 so this is not that electorate. i know we have to compare because we are looking for benchmarks, but that is where becomes very complicated. i thought it was really smart the campaign chose to go to univision, to have this town hall and speak directly to latino voters. part of it is the message, part of it is the message sent sybil money when you say in the last 30 days in my campaign i am

making you a priority. i'm carving out the time to speak directly to you, to share my empathy and my policies on everything from price gouging to immigration because i understand you are important. >> here is where i just get all knotted up. you know, that is work. that is conscientious work that is saying to latino men and women, to black men and women, which we just had this conversation, and yet, donald trump just basically sit there and demonizes communities. he goes after immigrants and migrants to this country. leveling up the ugly side and the needle seemingly doesn't move, you know? she is still under water. yeah, to your point, i think it is an important point, this electorate is not the 2020 electric, comparatively speaking, she is underperforming where joe diet -- joe biden was in these communities. the next question in the next 21 days is going to be how do you solidify that conversation in a way to convince that voter? symone, you're absolutely right

with what josi said. this is not some constituency you just pull off the shelf. these are blended americans. they are part of the fabric of this country. they are schoolteachers and firemen and, you know, scientists. they are not a set-aside community you just kind of go back to. yet and still the conversation kind of boils down that way. so donald trump levels of some ugly and everyone sort of, what's the response of the latino community? the response should be, what is the response of the american people, all of us, collectively coming together to say this ugliness shall not stand and, as a member of our community, we got your back. >> well, i mean, yeah.

>> i'm just saying -- >> yes. yes. >> that is what this should be. she can't, i mean, everyone doesn't give her credit for making that case. >> i guess i was like, caught up with my words because two months ago, maybe 2 1/2, vice president harris was not the top of this ticket. so part of the gaps, i think, we are seeing isn't that voters have wrapped their head around the new democratic candidate and this is something, had she become the nominee at the top of the year or if this were a regular primary and she had become the nominee earlier, they would've had time to close these gaps already. i do think it is remarkable what the campaign has done thus far. i think they uniquely understand there is still work to do. there are gettable voters out

there. you just have to meet them where they are. we used to talk about going to places that people read, watch and listen to. i am watching this media blitz and saying go everywhere the people will listen to you and meet these targeted voters where they are and hope you are getting the vote. >> i hope it's six. 24 days. 24 days. >> counting down. americans who live abroad and voting. you are watching "the weekend" . end" . helps keep your digestive system moving so you can feel lighter and more energetic. metamucil keeps you movin'. and try fizzing fiber plus vitamins. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention.

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for this, military members. state election officials and voting rights groups are pushing back against the losses. joining us now from germany the president and ceo of the u.s. vote foundation and founder of overseas vote. >> susan, welcome. it is so good to see you. and for our audience, i chair the u.s. vote foundation, a nonprofit, a nonpartisan organization that is solely focused on getting voters information about their rights to vote. susan, this issue around voting here at home, it is crazy and gnarly and difficult, at times. we see that. people often times don't realize we have a lot of americans who live abroad and who work abroad, our servicemen and women are serving on foreign soil. there is an estimated 4.4 million u.s. citizens that lived abroad in 2022 and about 2.8 million of them were 18 years or older. the u.s. vote foundation's work to voters abroad informed and engaged and reassured their votes will count is an

important part of that work. how does that play out, particularly in this environment, where seemingly the republican party, my party, unfortunately, are out there attacking overseas voters? >> well i guess it's no surprise that this information would sweep up new groups of voters this year. i guess i was a bit surprised to see it would actually extend to our u.s. troops and their families, they vote when they are away from their dumb assign -- domicile and some are overseas citizens. let me reemphasize the fact we are u.s. citizens and we do carry the right to vote. it is codified into law and we

plan to vote this year. there has been a lot of attention on the overseas vote this year because it is completely unoptimized. there are so many overseas voters out there and military voters and their families to have the right to vote who actually haven't taken advantage of that. the turnout rate is less than 8%, even in the best of years. so there has been concerted effort on it to bring out more the overseas vote. we welcome the attention. i need to thank you for covering this very important topic that has brought with it some scrutiny and we are ready. >> susan, i just want to give folks some of the numbers you just mentioned. absentee voting deadlines for troops and their families. this specifically about three

fourths of the 1.1 active duty members are eligible to vote by absentee ballot because they are stationed away from their voting residence. in addition, their families can vote by absentee ballot. then you have this reporting from newsweek saying americans living abroad could actually swing key states. it notes joe biden won jordan in the 2020 presidential election by only 11,779 votes, we all know that number. a substantially smaller number than the 18,475 overseas votes counted for the state. they cite arizona, biden won the state by over 2000 votes and then 18,435 overseas votes never counted. more numbers from north carolina. so this is, i think they increased attention is because there are some in this country, i want to be very specific, the disproportionally members of the republican party apparatus who feel as though more voters means they could potentially not do as well. but i just, i think that, you know, there are republicans that are registered abroad, right? there are independents and yes, there are democrats. this effort to essentially disenfranchise these voters isn't just hurting one particular party. it is hurting voters across the political spectrum. >> that is such a good point. we are as diverse a population as the u.s. based population.

we are students studying abroad, traveling people, retirees abroad, working people, those who are serving our country in the military and diplomats, missionaries, aid workers. we are all over the map. the mistake made in the map there is to assume that the votes that come in from overseas or military members are from one specific party. they are not. i mean, it is nice to see we are all more aware of the fact that the overseas vote could come in in greater numbers, we have yet to see any proof of that. we hope it will be better this year because of the added attention given to it and the

increased outreach. that would be a first. i can understand some people have their knickers in a twist because they think, we are going to get an avalanche of ballots from abroad. but that has yet to be seen. i hope it does happen. again, wishful thinking. >> michael, i want to kick this over to you really quickly, i'm not sure if you saw this headline from media matters about a conspiracy theory spread from a website to trump and now to the macromedia infrastructure. it is following in with their many conspiracies and lies about how there is cheating that is on the brink of happening. >> that is exactly right. susan, speak to us, if you could, real quickly about the absentee citizen voting at which is at the center of donald trump and republicans' attack on overseas voting. what is it very quickly and what is the impact of these attacks? >> it's important to remember that voting absentee within the

military started way back in the civil war. it was first codified around the time of the second world war. and subsequent legislation followed in 1955, 1975 and then, under the reagan administration in 1986 the uniformed and overseas citizens absentee voting act, a big vocabulary word for some. that came into being. we still operate under it. it has been amended and even improved since then but largely, this is our large law. open season, i guess. let's just look at one really important thing. timing. timing is everything. it puts these lawsuits into, you know, question. it is a little bit suspect that ballots have already been requested from the military and overseas voters and continue to be because the deadlines have

not fallen in all states. ballots have started going out for overseas and military voters, as of 45 days prior to the election. that is specified as part of the law. that was september 21st. look at us now. we are in october. we welcome the questions. we would love more attention on the overseas and military voting process. let's save that for after our winter is declare. >> susan, thank you for taking the time to join us this morning. still ahead, former cia director john brennan will join us to discuss trump cozy relationship with vladimir putin after the pandemic. the entire 2024 podcast series is available for free for msnbc premium subscribers. joy reid will host center kamala harris's background as she made rounds is joe ride -- joe biden's running mate. subscribe and start listening today. ing today. hey, scott. this stuff's perfect for fall, right? yep! it feeds your lawn now to strengthen roots all winter for a better lawn next spring.

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is a talking point he put his finger in the wind and says now i can't win, i don't look good on this issue so he has changed 30 years of being unilaterally pro-life. >> she is still in denial about the 2022 election. i give you one minute, one minute. we you finally tell the people of arizona, did you win or lose that election? >> can i talk about water really quickly. >> i will give you 30 seconds to respond. >> if you wanted to be an independent, you should run as one. it did not opt to run as an independent. he ran on mitch mcconnell's ability to recruit the former governor because he believed he would get majority to the republicans which has huge consequences. ♪ ♪ >> our colleague, chuck todd, moderated that debate between former governor larry hogan and angela alsobrooks in maryland. this week was a very good reminder, there were so many debates, the senate is on the

line, the house is on the line, every single member of the house of representatives is up for reelection. when it comes to the senate, democrats are defending 22, 23. west virginia is gone y'all. this is just a good snapshot, i think, of why every single day between now and the end of voting, which is election day, matters. >> it does matter. one of the strategies i employed in 2010 was a bottom- up strategy. you don't win necessarily by focusing just at the top. there are a lot of voters out there who are not moved, as we know, and we already talked about, by the presidential candidates. they have doubts, they have questions, they are like, i don't know. down ballot, whether it is a ballot initiative on abortion or cannabis or a candidate for u.s. senate or some other statewide office, that may animate them. so the parties have to know that and really kind of understand how they move and motivate those voters to come out for that senate candidate. and while you are at it, could

you vote for a presidential candidate, too? so it really is, our elections are driven a lot more from the grassroots up then from the top down and i think it is going to be an important strategy for turnout this november because there are a lot of things that will drive the voters maybe not at the top but closer to the ground. when they are in that booth, yeah, okay, i will vote for president. so it is just the way we do things in this country. it is really interesting and very hard work for campaigns. >> let's take a quick listen to former president obama encouraging pennsylvania voters to vote down ballot. >> you realize having honest, competent leadership in government really matters. it makes a difference. and today i am asking you to

vote for some of those leaders, including some folks we need working with your outstanding governor, who you just heard from, governor josh shapiro. we need them in harrisburg. >> just a reminder, we focus a lot on federal elections because that is, you know, it is a presidential election year but also a reminder there are statehouses up for grabs. >> america's policy is made in state legislatures. this particular cycle, well, actually, 2022 is where i feel like i got the rush of excitement and funding. we saw a lot of infusion into state legislative races, republicans have been doing this for years and, you know, the chairman will let us know but the democrats have been playing catch up over the last

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