podcast. follow and listen for free wherever you get your podcast and find our content on youtube at msnbc.com. stay right where you are. the katie phang show starts right now. i'm katie phang live from telemundo studios in miami, florida and here's the week that was. >> hurricane milton slamming into florida's gulf coast overnight. a category 3 hurricane when it roared ashore near siesta key. >> they're offering people $750. >> for immediate needs. >> for the worst. she should be north carolina is bad. so bad. >> she was there today for three hours, i believe. >> it's bizarre. you've got to stop this. i mean they're being so un- american with the way they're talking about this stuff.

former president trump, get a life, man. help these people. >> i'm basically a truthful person. [ laughter ] no, but frankly. no, but frankly. >> in the final four weeks until the election, vice president kamala harris ramping up her media appearances. >> are we going to go on the path of somebody who is a sore loser and lost the election in 2020 and tried to have a violent mob undo it. >> do not just sit back and hope for the best, get off your couch and vote. put down your phone and vote. grab your friends and family and vote. we are just 24 days until the 2024 election and vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump

remain in a dead heat among registered voters. new polling from the pew research center suggests the election could come down to a mere 13% of voters who are still persuadable. of that 13%, 8% have a preference but are evenly split. 5% said they had no preference but when pressed 3% lean harris. 2% lean toward trump. so the take away, get off your couch and vote. joining me now is susan. the race is so close by skin of the teeth; right? so what's it going to take to nudge those undecided voters over to one side or another? >> it's going to be repeated contact. i don't think those voters will

decide until -- except how they feel that particular coin toss. you know, both -- well, the vice president's team is working to find those gettable voters. i think it's going to be really difficult. what she, i think should focus on is motivating her likely voters. >> so susan, the democrats as we've been hearing this week bringing out the big dogs. former presidents bill clinton and barack obama hitting the road for kamala harris. meanwhile, trump got nobody stumping for him and his lies about the weather, migrants, the economy, et cetera. they're having an interesting effect. republicans are now caught up in those lies.

i mean it's a startling split screen, susan, to see the overwhelming amount of credible support for a candidacy for the presidency of kamala harris and the crickets of silence we're hearing on the republican side for donald trump. >> on the republican side how do you if you're an elected official, especially from those states that have been affected by the hurricanes, how do you not take care of your citizenry? how do you not care for the people who are out there? donald trump looks at everything as an opportunity to get a vote and so it's not surprising that he leans into that ugliness, if you will, because he doesn't care that lives are at stake. and so we see him, you know, very consistently spewing a lot of false information and frankly, a lot of elected republicans can't even bring themselves i'll say they're supporting him, but they can't

be active for him. on the other hand and this drives trump crazy, you see a lot of celebrity and influential surrogates out there for harris. and i think seeing barack obama out there and magic johnson in michigan are actually really important things because one of her least motivating sections of her base is in fact younger men of color. for some reason, i think it's somewhat misogynist. she can't connect with them or motivate them. hopefully those two will help. >> so susan, some i call it breaking news is coming out though it's not really breaking. as we know kamala harris in full transparency releasing her medical records because obviously donald trump is the oldest person running for the presidency in this race. and trump's campaign responds to the request for donald trump

to release his medical records by saying he has voluntarily released updates from his personal physician, as well as detailed reports, again, not records, from dr. ronny jackson who treated him after the first assassination attempt and he then goes on to demean kamala harris. i won't repeat it for anybody's consumption. let's speak about this fundamental physical reality though; right? we actually know the physical health and the medical condition for kamala harris. she's totally fine. we have a totally amorphous black box of information or lacking information for donald trump. in fact, let's be exceptionally clear, after that assassination attempt on donald trump we saw no medical records that spoke about any of his alleged injuries, et cetera, that he had. how is it possible then that there remain any question when it even comes to the consideration of who can occupy the oval for four more years because i footnote have a concern about jd vance and the

25th amendment. how is that even just an issue when it even comes to physical condition to serve as president for any voter out there? >> let's not forget this goes back to 2016. he -- the doctor was a joke who he had release some information. he's never been able to fully release or has chosen never to fully release his health records. he cruises everything he can -- he uses every opportunity to flip the script to his supporters to attack harris. it's not surprising that he did that. it should be concerning especially to those undecided voters to look at trump's age and his mental acuity. listen to his speech. i dare anyone to listen to his speech of his for five minutes, just five minutes and i don't think you'll find a single coherent sentence. so i think that's actually it's gotten worse over time and it

is affecting him. >> i don't think you need five minutes for that. trump's going to sit down with fox news' harris faulkner for women's issues filled by an exclusively female audience. while trump may be clocking ahead with male voters he's got a significant lag when it comes to women. obviously this is going to be a friendly audience. my question is does this really matter? trump loves talking about the fact that he's responsible for the fall of roe v. wade. he talks about how he's going to continue to roll back rights for women. this seems like a colossal waste of time. >> it is. you're absolutely right on every single point. and the thing is when trump speaks it actually motivates those voters for harris when abortion and reproductive healthcare is their number one issue. so this is going to be a joke. you're right. he's going to do this town hall, what will he say? i'll protect women? i think that's what he said.

women don't have to worry because i'll protect you. i think it'll be a short town hall. more importantly, i think this will actually help harris. because it will highlight trump once again and his horrible record in taking care of women. >> i call it his mission of misogyny. susan del percio, thank you for getting us started today. joy reid hosted a podcast called kamala next in line. it explores then senator kamala harris' background as she made the rounds as joe biden's running mate. the entire series is available ad free for msnbc premium subscribers. you can find it in the how to win 2024 feed. scan that qr code to subscribe to msnbc premium now so you can listen to kamala next in line ad free. coming up next on the katie

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running for reelection in ruby red west virginia, every seat counts as democrats keep a fierce and watchful eye on several tight races in order to protect their slim majority. they're not going down without a fight. including having former president barack obama hit the campaign trail. >> no one is more humble and more honest and more rooted in it his community and has more integrity than bob casey. that's the kind of person we need to send back to washington. that's the kind of person who is going to help kamala get stuff done. >> joining me now is democratic senator bob casey representing the great state of pennsylvania. it's an honor to have you on the show. what's the energy like at that rally this week with former president barack obama in pittsburgh? >> katie, it's great to be with you. thanks for having me on.

it was a great night for our party and our commonwealth to have former barack obama come in to pittsburgh to campaign for vice president harris and to campaign for me. and in so many ways it was emblematic of the challenge of this race. i'm in a very close race right now. new york times has a poll today it's 3 points. probably a 2 or 3 point race. it's closed a lot because of a huge billionaire funded, literally a small group of billionaires funding a superpac that has spent more money in my senate race than either campaign or any entity has spent. so that's the reason president obama has been working so hard to help me because he knows this close senate race could decide the majority in the senate. i'd ask folks who want to help us fight back against those billionaires to go to bobcasey.com to help us. >> you know, senator, one of the top issues for pennsylvania voters continues to be economy at 47% followed by threats to democracy at 12% and immigration at 11%. how important is it to make

sure that you end up back in washington to remain as a united states senator to make sure that those in pennsylvania and then even at large across the country that americans that they have the type of protections that need to be given and the assistance that needs to be given to make sure they cannot worry about kitchen table issues like the economy? >> katie, it's a critically important issue for the people of pennsylvania but also beyond. i think for the nation. and one of the issues that i've spent a lot of time advocating about and trying to pass legislation to direct more help to is the issue of greed- flation. big corporations that have been benefiting from huge corporate tax breaks that republicans passed, those same corporations jacking up prices. their profits going up 75%, five times the rate of inflation. and if you listen to my opponent, he wants to excuse them from any accountability for price gouging.

we need to do three things. point out this problem of corporate greed and the price gouging that comes with it. secondly, to pass price gouging legislation to hold them accountable and thirdly to roll back their big corporate tax breaks that they obviously didn't need because they were gouging people during the pandemic and thereafter. when we do that, we can hold them accountable. we also have to help families with the cost of childcare, that's why the child tax credit is enormously helpful to pay for food, child care and rent. we have to continue to fight on this front. >> in your debate last week with dave mccormick your opponent, mccormick called abortion rights as quote, something that we need to get past. how out of step is he with voters in pennsylvania when it comes to reproductive rights? >> he's way out of step. a lot of pennsylvanians were insulted when they found out

that in the aftermath of the dobbs decision overturning roe he said that decision made him quote very, very happy unquote. and he manifested that in the answer he gave the other night about getting past. he wants us to get past his extreme position. he wants us to get past this reality that in state after state these abortion bans are aren't theory, they're in place. you have stories like the story in florida plenty of stories in texas as well, but in florida a woman bleeding out hemorrhaging so much that she had to be put on a ventilator to save her life. that's what he wants us to get past. i don't think the people of pennsylvania want to get past that. they want to make sure we pass the women's health protection act. but we can't do that without a majority and we can't do that without my race being successful. hope people go to bobcasey.com to help us win this race. >> senator bob casey, thank you

for joining us today. i appreciate your advocacy as always. >> thanks, katie. for the record we did reach out to senator casey's opponent and we did not hear back from him to join us. tomorrow president joe biden heads to florida to survey the damage in areas affected by both hurricanes milton and helene. recovery efforts are underway after milton tore through the state earlier this week causing heavy rain, high winds and devastating flooding. storm killed at least 17 people and more than a million customers remain without power. as florida continues to assess the toll of two major hurricanes, one of the state's congressional races is getting new attention. it's a race that could determine future control of our house of representatives. florida congresswoman and trump ago lite ana paulina luna is being challenged by whitney fox. luna demanding fema funds weeks after voting against a bill

that would put $20 billion into fema's disaster relief fund. joining me now is whitney fox democratic candidate. i'm glad to see you. i'm glad to know that your family is safe. you did evacuate from hurricane milton. the district you're running in and that's part of the reason you evacuated, that's part of st. petersburg and pinellas county that was devastated by hurricane helene. what can you share about the conditions there? >> thank you so much for having me, katie. you are right, we've seen two historic storms hit our district head on in the past two weeks. it's been pretty devastating. hundreds of people, thousands of people have lost their homes. have lost everything. some have lost their lives. it's been devastating to say the least. and this is part of why i decided to run for congress. i'm born and raised in the tampa bay area. raising two little girls of my own. a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old. this is our home and i've

worked throughout my career to do whatever i can for the people of this district with democrats and republicans to get things done. and that's what we deserve, especially in a time of crisis like this is leaders who are going to put the people first. unfortunately we do not have that at the moment with anna paulina luna. she voted to shut down the government the day before hurricane helene was coming towards florida. >> i'm going to stay on that for a second. luna posted on x earlier this week that she wanted vice president kamala harris to free up fema dollars despite the fact that congress controls fema's funding. isn't that something that somebody like luna should know if she's a congresswoman? putting aside the fact she voted against actually making sure that fema had funding. >> this is what she does, katie. it's infuriating. the lies to distract from the fact she voted against it.

she's told people illegal immigrants are getting fema funding. she's been on stage in north carolina at a presidential town hall saying fema is not helping districts just because they're red. this type of disinformation is dangerous. and it's infuriating to our district when they so desperately in a time of crisis need help. they need to know where they can turn. what kind of help they can get. this is is a crisis that we are facing in our district and we deserve a leader who is actually going to help people and give them the correct information that they need. the fact that she has been spreading disinformation and lies in a time like this when our district is so vulnerable is infuriating to so many. that's why this is one of the most competitive races in the country. the democratic congressional campaign committee has put us on their red to blue list. the first time in six years a florida congressional race has been put on red to blue. we know that we have a chance to unseat one of the most extreme members of congress. >> and when it comes to being an extremist i want to pivot to

an issue that i think is incredibly important and that is reproductive rights. anna paulina luna has declared herself a pro life extremist. as abortion rights remain critical in this election, we have abortion on the ballot in the amendment 4 that is in the november ballot in florida as well. how are you drawing a contrast with luna when it comes to reproductive rights? >> we could not have more stark contrast on this issue. like i said, i've got two little girls i'm raising when are currently growing up with fewer rights than i did. anna paulina luna support as national abortion ban without exception for rape, incest or the life of the mother. this is a serious issue. we're seeing doctors leaving the state of florida. a gentleman told me a few months ago that his daughter is pregnant with his first grand baby and he told her to move to massachusetts where they have family because he didn't feel like it was safe for her to be in florida during her pregnancy. this is an issue that we are hitting her hard on because people care about it in my district and in florida.

they believe that women should have the freedom to make their own healthcare decisions without the government telling them what they can and cannot do with their bodies and that's why we're going to see women and men who support them showing up and voting on this issue. if you go to whitneyfoxforcongress.com you'll see other priorities we're running on and join our campaign and fight to unseat anna paulina luna. >> there was an interesting op- ed piece about your race and it said that if you can win this race it would be much bigger than you winning, it may be a sign that the maga brand of political theater is on the wane and an exhausted moderate majority is ready for politics to be competent and normal. that struck a chord with me. i've read in other media reporting that republicans are supporting you locally as well because you take the time to sit down, be present in the district and to talk about the issues that apply to all voters. what's the message you want to send to voters in these final

weeks before election day? >> listen, that's exactly right. my father is a republican. we've had many long conversations at the dinner table about many issues and we don't always see eye to eye. at the end of the day we empathetically listen to one another. we respect each other. that's what people want in their leaders. that's why even republicans are supporting me. they are tired of luna's extremism. she's getting nothing done fur our district. they want someone who's going to do the work and someone they can trust. that's why we have cross party support by having republicans supporting us. that's why we're going to flip this seat in november and unseat anna paulina luna. >> whitney fox, my thanks to you for joining us today. glad to know you and your family are safe. >> thank you so much, katie. for the record, we also reached out to anna paulina luna to see if she wanted to join us but we have not heard back. coming up after the break, pardon power. what the supreme court's recent decision on presidential immunity could mean for

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the recent supreme court immunity decision has reignited questions about the president's pardon power. a power that lacks any clear restraints and is ripe for abuse. my next guest's new book investigates the executive power and details how accountability is needed in order to help preserve our democracy. she writes quote, the trump administration showed us that in the wrong hands the president's pardon power is poised to become a devastatingly sinister tool of corruption and abuse. it's time for the pardon power to shrink, possibly into

obscurity. democracy will no doubt be better for it. joining me now is kim wehle. author of pardon power. it's an honor to have you on the show. i'm so excited about your book and i can't wait for everybody to get their hands on it to read it. let's start with the foundational how. let's start with that basic premise. how can a president pardon him or her self? >> the how is really leads to the question of if they were to do that what's the pushback? and the issue in this moment and it's just strengthened i think by the court's immunity decision is whether there are any checks and balances on the presidency any more. if the president were to pardon him or herself, who would stop them? who would push back on them? that's really the question. even a pardon for bribes i think that is a probability now that the supreme court has put

the presidency above the law. >> your book traces the origins of the pardon power going as far back as the english monarchy. that idea of investing that type of power in the executive branch stems from the english monarchy. we left the monarchy; right? we left the idea of having a king and putting aside our opinions about that immunity decision. >> well they really seem to believe at least madison and hamilton carried the day on the idea that there needs to be some person of judgment that can exercise mercy if the criminal justice system goes awry. remember, in common law england there wasn't a constitution with constitutional rights for defendants. there wasn't even a criminal jury system until the 1200s and appeals and all those measures of fairness. that whole apparatus didn't exist when the constitution was

ratified either. frankly i think the framers didn't foresee the kind of corruption we've seen lurking around the oval office. they sort of knew each other back in 1788 and trusted that whoever would have that kind of power would use it judiciously and fairly. >> um, until somebody named donald trump comes along and shows what he's capable of doing when he holds office of the presidency. you know, you said here -- excuse me. there is a cbs poll that found 62% of americans, kim, oppose pardons for the january 6th rioters who forced their way into the u.s. capitol. donald trump promised to pardon them if he comes back into office. he said he's going to pardon quote, a large portion of them. i wanted to ask you, um, we always talk about the pocket pardon. this idea of a president pardoning him or her self. there's also the ability for the president to pardon others. in this instance, what kind of

long term consequences could we see if we see somebody like donald trump back in the oval pardoning the january 6th insurrectionists? >> well, might have been that poll or another one over the summer where people were asked why are you against pardons for the january 6th insurrectionists and this was republicans and democrats i'm paraphrasing, we don't want to encourage or green light political violence around elections. that if a president were to come in and say, you know, you are patriots i'm going to wash away all of the implications of the criminal justice system, the statutes that congress enacted, the work of juries and judges and let you walk on the theory that you're a patriot, that encourages that kind of behavior. even more concern could be what donald trump will do for himself with a pardon now that the supreme court said you can use official power to commit crimes you'll have to get people to execute your orders to commit crimes. those folks are not covered by

immunity. but if donald trump were as he did with some of those who engaged in the 2016 election interference. if he were to pardon cronies if they commit crimes on his behalf, we not only have a president above law but we have those around a president above the law if they're willing to commit crimes. the pardon in it connection with that immunity decision is extraordinarily dangerous in the wrong hands. >> so i have to ask is there an expiration date on a pocket pardon? let's say donald trump pardoned himself. the fact he hasn't used that pardon signifies to me the fact maybe he didn't do that. it is there an expiration date on a presidential pardon? >> no. the pardon power is very vague. something like that would have to be established through precedent or supreme court ruling. i mean i tend to agree with you he dangled this pocket pardon while he was in it office.

he's smart about things like this and if the supreme court at some point doesn't continue to give him win after win in these federal cases, it's not inconceivable he will pull out a pocket pardon he gave himself during his last term in office and that would be another constitutional crisis triggered by donald j. trump. >> kim wehle, this conversation needs to be longer an i need you to come back so we can talk about it more. in the meantime, folks need to go out and read your new book. not only is it historically just tracking what happens with this pardon but it does talk about the dangers that can happen with the pardon power. kim wehle, thank you for the privilege of your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you, katie. it's been terrific. >> coming up next, the nation's natives. we'll go inside the harris-walz effort to shore up support among indigenous communities nationwide in the final stretch effort to combat over 100 years of native american voter suppression. keep it right here. ssion. keep it right here.

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and i strongly believe that the relationship between tribal nations and the united states is sacred and that we must honor tribal sovereignty, embrace our trust in treaty

obligations and ensure tribal self-determination. >> vice president kamala harris in phoenix on thursday underscoring her commitment to native american voters. prior to her rally the vice president met with native american youth leaders from around arizona. the move comes amid fears that some states are actively oppressing native americans right to vote courtesy of a recent uptick in restrictive voting measures. joining me now with more, senior staff attorney at the native american rights fund. jacqueline, it's an honor to have you here and to see you again. let's start with this. a 2020 report by the native american rights fund found more than 1 million native americans were not registered to vote which means only 66% percent of the eligible indigenous population can vote. what do you attribute to this number? >> it's too hard to register to vote. across indian country native americans do not receive

equitable voting services. registration, early voting and polling sites can be 20, 30, 40, 50 miles away. when you're having to travel these distances, these issues are compounded by structural barriers. roads on native american reservations can be poor. impassable in october or november. native american houses don't have addresses on them really often. as a result, it's difficult to fill out the registration form and often native american registrations can be rejected. native americans don't receive residential mail. that means they don't have the ease of going in and popping a registration form or even a ballot in front of their door and having that delivered. native americans have to overcome incredibly difficult logistics in order to register and to vote. >> in order to overcome those logistical nightmares, native americans in montana, for example, have filed a lawsuit against state and county officials requesting more

accessible voting sites on their reservation. how helpful would it be if there were satellite voting offices that would provide equal access? >> i think equal access is key here. sometimes states say we do provide satellite locations. those are in no way equitable. they can be one day on a tuesday from 9:00 to 3:00; right? that's not equitable access. certainly not in states that have large periods of early voting periods. so satellite offices sometimes don't exist at all. what we need is the native american voting rights act. that would set federal minimum standards that requires on reservation equitable registration, early voting and poll opportunities. >> in 2021 president joe biden ordered a study on native american voting rights which included several recommendations for state and federal lawmakers including a push to pass the john lewis

voting rights advancement act which included a provision specific to indigenous voters. what kind of legislation needs to be passed not only on a federal level but on state levels? we talk so much about how democracy is local sometimes for a lot of people, but especially for the tribal lands. >> we need a voting rights act. the attacks on the voting rights act are relentless. nay tiff americans are at the heart of that claims. at the end of october we are having a oral argument in a case that will determine whether or not private plaintiffs can even bring voting rights cases at all. we also need as i said, you know, the navetive american voting rights act at the federal level and state level. states can pass their own that would mandate on reservation access. we have to take the power

outside of just county officials that say it's too difficult to offer registration services. guess who it's also difficult for. it's difficult for the nay tiff american voter that has to travel those distances. >> according to census data the native american population grew by almost 12% between 2010 and 2020. such a tight general election coming up, how critical is the role of the native american community this election year? i mean we've seen that sometimes that vote has made the difference in some of those swing states. >> native americans poll hold a tremendous amount of power. the number of eligible native americans are larger in states like arizona, wisconsin, nevada, michigan, minnesota. native americans can swing the presidential election if they were given a fair opportunity to vote. >> i always love spending time

with you. it was an honor to spend time with you at a panel we did together with peggy flanagan lieutenant governor of minnesota. i urge everybody to go and check out your website. thank you for being here and spending the time with us. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. appreciate it. >> thanks, jacqueline. coming up, a hurricane of lies. the battle between scientists and charlatans as some elected officials use social media to weaponnize recent hurricanes for political gain and why it's making natural disasters deadlier for all of us. that's next. that's next.

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happens to miss south florida where all the democrats live. something strange is going on. >> you know it's largely a republican area so some people say they did it for that reason. i don't even think they're that bad. probably, maybe they are. >> republicans have always denied climate change but this is ridiculous and dangerous. just to set the record straight. democrats cannot and are not controlling the weather. there are currently 220 republicans in the house of representatives. two weeks ago nearly half of their delegation looking on your screen right there voted against funding fema. 11 of them were from the state of florida. the funding passed without their support. $9billion. nearly half the budget has been spent thus far on hurricane milton. joining me now is dr. james, the ceo of conservation

international. despite republicans denial, the climate is changing and you can see that change in the money we are spending. this chart we're putting up on the screen from the national weather service shows there were $28 billion worth of weather disasters last year. 2024 hasn't even made iten another chart yet but in the first seven months of this year there have been 20 separate billion dollar disasters that don't even include hurricanes helene or milton. is this the new normal and what does it mean that republicans claim democrats are creating these issues? >> thanks, katie. this is not the new normal. we haven't actually seen the new normal. it's going to get much, much worse. we're just starting to see the new beginning of this new normal. when i was in graduate school we had maybe one, two, three billion dollars storm disasters in this country.

today we have twelve a year. sorry, we have one every 12 days now. so the frequency and size of these very large storms is clearly increased. and meanwhile we're playing this game of whether it's happening or not. the reality it's happening. you know, you're right there are a group of people who just want to deny it either for clicks or for their own personal reasons or maybe for votes. national hurricane center still had something like 800 million views so i believe the vast majority of american people are going to the right sources for right information because their lives depend on it. >> but you know, doctor, it goes a step further. for example, meteorologists, they're being targeted with abuse and death threats by people who believe the conspiracy theories and the lies being perpetrated by trump and other republicans. did you ever think that the

weather would be the subject of dis and misinformation. >> i never thought science would be the target of this kind of abuse. i thought that was back in the time of galileo when he said we're not the center of the universe. i think that what we're seeing now is for narrow, narrow political gains. it's really about next few years that, you know, people are trying to position scientists as creating something that ultimately is going to affect all our lives. there's one part about this myth that is sort of true. we are actually impacting, you know, climate and thus the weather. so this idea that we're creating a machine making things worse, we are. it's called coal-fired power plants; right? so we are absolutely responsible for what we're seeing today on the coasts of florida and around the world. we have plenty of opportunity

to do something about it. invest in protecting the coastlines. invest in better building. replant mangroves and of course reduce emissions. because in the long run that's going to be good for the economy but most importantly it's going to save lots and lots of lives. >> yeah, let's be clear, it's not democrats that are the only ones contributing to our climate crisis, it's republicans as well. just quickly, doctor, project 2025 the conservative heritage foundation's policy blueprint would dismantle the national weather service and noaa. they say that the national weather service should quote, fully commercialize its forecasting operations by working with private partners rather than providing its weather forecasts for free as it does now for americans and the public. wouldn't that be a disastrous move to make? >> yeah, that's 800 million people who went to the national hurricane center to find out what's going to happen to their lives that will no longer have

a service that the government provides. the first responsibility of government is to take care of its people. today and into the future. in this case we are doing everyone, our country and the rest of the world a huge disservice. >> doctor m. sanjayan. go to fema.gov. hurricane rumor response and go and get the facts, people. democrats are not creating hurricanes. thank you, dr. sanjayan for joining us today. thanks to all of you for joining me today. you can catch me back here next saturday at noon eastern. follow us on social media. you can also catch clips of the show on youtube and listen to every episode of the show as a podcast for free. scan that qr code on your screen to follow now but please don't go anywhere. msnbc reports with my friend alex width is coming up next. n all winter for a better lawn next spring.

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good day to all of you from the new center here in los angeles. welcome to alex wood reports. we are beginning this hour with the vision 2024 with just 24 days to election day more than 4 million mail-in ballots and in person balance have been cast nationally. early voting is set to begin in georgia on tuesday.