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we are just a little more than three weeks away until election day, and as of today, the ritz has become a dead heat spread new nbc news polling released today as the race tied with vice president harris and donald trump both at 48% nationally among registered voters but it is a noticeable drop from last month's poll that had harris leading trump by five points. the comparison couldn't be more stark compared to the last time an incumbent vice president ran for the top of the ticket. at this point in 2000, then vice president al gore at a 60% approval rating compared to harris's now 43%. and while gore won the popular vote, the supreme court allowed bush to win the electoral college. so, how did we get here? how is the race this close? after all, trump has been in favor of interviews with podcast boroughs, ranting nonsensically about circles,

even appearing at coachella yesterday, of all places, in his last-minute hail mary strategy for blue states. meanwhile, harris has been acting like a presidential candidate. she has been holding townhomes with voters, she has spent all of last week going on a heavy- duty media blitz. but what if that is part of the problem. what is adhering to presidential norms is the thing that is hurting her campaign? after all, hers as positioned herself as a new candidate for the future. >> we have heard tonight two very different visions for our country but one that is focused on the future and the other that is focused on the past. it is time to turn the page. america is ready for a new way forward. i believe in my soul and heart, the american people are ready to turn the page. >> absolutely. it was a message anxious democratic voters needed and wanted to hear after joe biden finally caved to pressure and dropped out of the race. but since then, she hasn't

distanced herself from joe biden, she has held on tight to him and his policies. in fact, he or she is in just two different interviews in the past few days. >> would you have done something differently than president biden during the past four years? >> there is not a thing that comes to mind, in terms of -- and i have been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. >> what were the major changes be and what would stay the same? >> sure, well, i mean, i'm obviously not joe biden. also, i think it's important to say, with 28 days to go, i'm not donald trump. >> i am not joe biden, but i am not donald trump. the problem is that distinction may not be enough for voters. the closer she has kept herself to biden's unpopular policies, especially on gaza, the more harmful it has been for the campaign. and instead of meeting with the leaders of the uncommitted movement for example to ease their concerns about israel's

assault on gaza, to create daylight between his stance on the war and hers on the war, paris is instead touting the support of republicans like liz cheney. she has even promised to convene a bipartisan group of advisers, including republicans, on policy, should she went. comparing her position today to a complete political novice, donald trump back in 2016, eight years ago when voters didn't know how he would govern, they still voted him into office. today, voters know exactly who he is and who he will be as president. so much so that according to usa today's david jackson, trump is falling better today than he was back in 2016 and 2020. now, this poll should serve as a wake-up call for democrats. there is one silver lining here, that same nbc news poll shows abortion is the top motivating issue, at 22%, above immigration, protecting democracy, and the cost of living.

it is an issue harris has been able to successfully campaign on, making her a clear and concise messenger for reproductive rights in this country. with trump, we know what we are getting. he stands for fascism, authoritarianism, mass deportation of immigrants. so much so that his former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, retired general mark milley, has referred to him as fascist to the corporate so, the question for democrats in the last stretch remains what are you for? what is vice president kamala harris for? and will that be enough to stop donald trump's authoritarian vision for this country? we have an all-star panel to break this down for us. ameshia cross, democratic strategist and former obama campaign adviser, nichols, and the co-host of democracy-ish, and the book go back where you came from and other helpful recommendations on how to become american. it is great to have all three of you with us. i will start with you, what is your understanding, how do you decipher the fact that this race is as close as it is, when

we know who donald trump is, what he has done, what he represents, and what he is promising to do? >> i think it is explained, because the voters know all those things as well. we are in a culture that is buoyed by disinformation and misinformation on a regular basis, specifically those who are utilizing social media and things like youtube as their top reliable news source. we are also seeing more and more people who are latching onto this anti-immigrant, xenophobic sentiment. that isn't something that is holistically just american, we saw it with brexit in europe as well, we are seeing time and time again that some of these very dark, categorically ridiculous commentaries about immigrants, migrants specifically, are being touted by the right, but are also being eaten up by individuals who showed, quite frankly, no better. but in addition to that, i think it is also because, again, america's original sin is racism. america has a habit of going

back, and unfortunately, we have seen with this do-nothing congress as it has been touted, but they have done something republican congress has done a lot when it comes to the house specifically, they worked strategically to dismantle civil rights. they work to strip people of their community, specifically people who look like me and you are brown across this country. i think we have to understand who we are as a nation and where we are going. a refusal to accept the multiculturalism that exists here, and i think that is represented very strongly in somebody like kamala harris running, she represents that multiculturalism, she represents diversity, she represents and obviously is a woman. and there is a healthy bit of misogyny that is really unfortunate going on across the country as well. all of those things come to bear this election cycle, and i think that's why the polls are extremely tight. >> tom, same question to you, but before i get you to answer, let me play for you michael tyler, the communications director for the harris

campaign, he was just on with my colleague, the reverend al sharpton, earlier to react to this new poll, here is what you said: >> this is going to be a margin of error race down until november 5th. for us as a campaign down the final stretch year, it is about using every tool that we have at our disposal to reach those voters that are ultimately going to decide the pathway to 270 electoral votes. >> so, the word that i am interested in there, tom, and feel free to take this however you want, is reach voters, as opposed to activate voters or mobilize voters or inspire voters, and i'm wondering if that is the right strategy at this point, so close to the race, trying to appeal to undecided -- if there are any undecided voters, i don't believe there personally are any left in this country, but trying to reach people who don't know who they're going to vote for, as opposed to really energize those who want to vote for you. >> yeah, the notion that you have got to reach these voters, and somehow there is one more thing kamala harris says that is finally going to press the lever and change the outcome.

and i think part of the problem is that there are millions of voters who just -- who are still thinking that this is just a normal election and that the outcome isn't that serious. and that includes, i think, people that know donald trump is dangerous, they know he is terrible, but still can't bring themselves to think about not voting for the republican candidate. i also think that problem of energizing voters is something that, you know, the devils the democratic party. i mean, for example, if you have the youth vote, if you had reliable kind of turnout among typical democratic constituencies, the election would be over. but this is always the problem, that democrats go through, where people say i'm not excited about and i haven't

really been paying attention. republicans are always excited to vote, they're always motivated, they pay close attention and they vote every single time, and that is how we end up with minority rule in this country, because we have a majority -- donald trump will not win a majority of the popular vote again, he is going to try to thread the needle through two or three states, and we are going to end up with minority rule, because so many democratic voters just can't bring themselves to get organized and go vote and that is really a tragedy. >> tom brings up such an important point about the energy factor here and republicans have it, democrats don't have it. it was one thing to say people didn't know who donald trump would be as president back in 2016, he has only gotten worse since then. here he is today on fox escalating his dangerous rhetoric, watch: >> i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. we are some sick people, radical left lunatics. and it should be very easily

handled by -- if necessary, by national guard, or if really necessary, by the military. >> i mean, sick, sick stuff, talking about the enemy from within, we know what he means by all of that. he is pulling better today than he did in 2016 and 2020. how do you explain that, and is it a mistake for democrats to move to the center, try to win the center, as opposed to mobilizing and energizing those that are watching and wanting more from the vice president in her campaign? >> white supremacy dies hard in america, trump has gone full fascist, full races, it is a is been this way, people just didn't pay attention because they wanted to talk it up to economic anxiety. it is not economic anxiety. we have seen much of his cruel, hateful, xenophobic, misogynistic, anti-semitic. just in the past month, what happens, is based adores him. we cannot normalize it, or establishment cannot or

normalize it. when general millie calls him a total fascist, pay attention to him. they don't pay attention to me or ameisha, we are just people of color. listen to the general who called him a total fascist. i think for democrats, they have to be -- stop being timid. call him out on this, call him a fascist. quote other people, quote jd vance who called him america's hitler. bring it back up. this is a man who will take away your freedom and rights. when it comes to healthcare, he has no plan, he will take away your social security. this man is an authoritarian and uses his own quotes against him. and they will bear hug liz cheney and they will drop kick her if she tries to leave but i think they should be in and, expand by going for a bold, progressive message, and compare and contrast openly. don't bear hug to anyone. there is no need for tim walz to say, jd vance, i agree with you. no, go against them, say this

man is an extremist. and this is why. and what is common to us is not common to most people, folks, so this is why they need to make that case, because ameisha was right, we are dealing with disinformation and a right-wing ecosystem that is beholden to these lies, while republicans right now are willing to kill themselves because they believe donald trump and his conspiracy theories during the hurricane that is killing the republican base, that is what we are dealing with, an extreme fascist movement, thank you for coming to my ted talk. >> [ laughter ] ameisha, democrats should take solace that reproductive rights is the top-rated issue for the nbc poll that we showed earlier. the vice president has been a great communicator and advocate on that issue. to his point, what do democrats need to do to capitalize on that in these last few weeks to make it front and center, to mobilize people within the left and the right to vote on this issue? >> put names and faces to it, bring out women and families in the battleground states who

have been affected, those who have had to travel to other places, those who could not travel to other places. they have got to be able to name and shame the conservatives who are leading this movement, they have also got to put a cork to it. i say that in full recognition that the message of this affecting black women and women in poverty at greater rates than anybody else, because those are the people who can't afford to leave, are not always going to be moving those middle- class white women voters. what will move them is other middle-class white women voters who are going through this at the same time. those people who have to understand that when you say there are exceptions, you know who is deciding those exceptions? an elected official, not your doctor. that means you could risk losing your reproductive organs or reproductive capacity completely. and the person who is making that decision was not comfortable doing so what have been your doctor, because now they criminalize that dr. and he is possibly getting a felony charge for trying to save your life. make it plain for people in real time to get the young

people who have been victims of rape to be some of your spokespeople as well. they have got to paint this picture in a way that showcases exactly the detriment that these antiabortionists are causing, up to and including trying to get rid of all forms of birth control, because that is the republican strategy. >> tom, you are a former republican, i'm sure it is important for the vice president to embrace republicans like liz cheney. but do you think that [ inaudible ] the younger democratic voters who are not a problem with any of these key figures of the republican party? >> i'm going to maybe start a food fight here because i disagree with a lot of this. the last thing the democratic party needs is more rashida tlaib. and i don't think it is bad that harris is embracing liz cheney. i do agree, however, especially with tim walz and vance, trying to show that common ground during the debate. the problem is that harris was running really well by not taking the bait from journalists

about you have got to show how you are different from biden, you have to tell us about your housing plan, you have to give us all the wonky details, and you notice that trump has wisely just faded out. look, adopting another debate was smart, because debates hurt trump. and as a result, we end up talking about what is harris's strategy, why aren't young voters more energized? well maybe because we are not talking about the fact that donald trump this morning talked about using the national guard and the united states military against the american citizens, that is why. and that message needs to come out. that message, along with all the other things we have talked about here, needs to be delivered by the candidate instead of this constant demand to say, well, younger voters want to know what you're going to do about school costs. you know what? let's save the constitution first, then we can figure out the other stuff, but i think -- i mean, maybe in a sense, a full on progressive agenda or

centrist agenda, neither of them will really matter either way if people have not really internalized how dangerous donald trump is. then it is just arguing on the margins at that point. >> thank you so much. ameisha and tom, please stick around. up next, disinformation about the hurricane still spreading across the country. ask [ music ] [ laughter ] and families can save 20% every month versus the other big guys. [coughing] hi susan, honey? yea. i respect that, but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin, with real honey & elderberry.

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pay, even in trump country. alabama's highly respected meteorologist james spann received an onslaught of threats after he told his online following not to fall for the lies. he said some of the worst threats came from people with bible verses on their profiles, which as the atlantic points out, would be laughable if the lies weren't taken by many people as gospel. back with us is ameshia cross, democratic strategist, and tom nichols, staff writer for the atlantic. tom, what does this tell you about where we are as a country, that instead of believing the moon is still up there and the science, you send a threat to your local meteorologist? how is that even maga? >> it's not, and it is not a left or right problem, it is that people have become psychotic. i mean, there is kind of a national psychosis that has been overtaking us, this didn't just happen in the past six

months. i think there are a lot of reasons for it, including people simply wanting life to make sense. they want their lives to be interesting, they want to be part of a great drama, but i will always add, if you are sending death threats to a meteorologist, it is not because you think he is wrong, it is because you are worried that you think you are wrong. it is this deep insecurity that maybe the weather is unpredictable and maybe hurricanes just happen and when a meteorologist tells you that, you want to send him bible verses, because you believe there is a big sort of pattern and there are people responsible and that somehow it can be fixed. and this is common to all conspiracy theories. what is unusual now, what has really happened that has changed things in the past few years is that you have an entire political party, an entire media ecosystem around

that political party that is devoted to actually pushing these things, making them seem legitimate, and getting people to believe them by just mainlining it into them through their eyeballs and through their computers and their screens 24 hours a day. that is the part, i think, that we couldn't see coming, that an entire party would be devoted to lying just to gain power. >> ameisha, trump has helped amplify lies about the storm's response, among others. what does the harris campaign do with this? >> i think they have been doing it, they have been calling out the lies, they have also been amplifying, quite frankly, the republicans on the ground in many of these southern states, who are actually elected officials, either locally or at a statewide capacity, who have also call these things out as lies. people are just getting $750, the democrats aren't somehow creating hurricanes and targeting them to hit southern states, this is not a thing. and i think we have to understand -- to a point that

was made a few moments ago, this is not a new thing for conservatives, quite frankly. the anti-science, the anti- legitimacy, we don't believe in institutions, we don't believe in educated individuals or people who have the background and certifications to have these conversations, this is something that they had been chipping away at for a very long time, whether it was anti- vaxxers, the people spread the lies during the covid-19 pandemic, the people who put a target on anthony fauci's, the same people are back again threatening urologists and threatening to the fema director. we have seen time and time again, a push away from science, a push away from intellectual capacity, a push away from things that are honest and true, into something else. and it is dangerous because people's lives are at stake. and what we have seen from kamala harris and joe biden when they have toward these areas is bringing people back to the norm that says we should all come together in times of crisis, we should not be latching onto crazy conspiracy theories. science exists for a reason, there is an explanation for

much of this. we do know that that national disasters are going to come, and if you believe in climate science, which i do, which people who follow this do, and they're going to come faster and at stronger rates and higher capacity. we have known that for years now. this is putting truth in action. we also know that republicans are fighting to take away the money to protect individuals caught up in these disasters. congressional republicans have been doing this for a while as well. including what we have seen from project 2025, which basically dismantles fema and continues to take away money from climate science, and pushes the more antiscience wing and factions of this country. we cannot afford to do that. >> we are going to have to leave it at that, but before we leave, i thought this was a very interesting cbs news poll, 90% of paris voters believe relief funds have gone to people impacted, compared to just 35% of trump voters. it is not surprising, but it is ultimately a sign of just how much disinformation we are dealing with right now in the final weeks of the election. ameshia cross, tom nichols,

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in over a dozen states, that is according to a new york times analysis of data compiled. republicans clearly believe that these ads will help galvanize the maga base, but that strategy of bashing democrats support for transit rights hasn't helped them in the past, including the 2022 midterms. the president of one of the country's leading lgbtq advocacy groups says it shows that republicans are desperate right now. instead of articulating how they are going to make the economy better or schools safer, they are focused on selling fear and chaos. those were the words of kelly robinson, president of the human rights campaign. she joins me now. kelly, it is great to have you back on the show. elaborate on that quote for us i just shared. what are these desperate anti- trans ads from the trump campaign saying about their putting in the race just weeks before the election? >> this is all smoke and mirrors, they do not have a plan to offer the american people about how they're going to move us forward and move us

forward together, so instead, they're going back to a tired, old playbook of selling fear and trying to create chaos. and look, it is like you said earlier, these anti-trans ads do not work. just ask andy beshear, who is sitting as governor of kentucky after defeating them. just ask the voters in ohio who enshrined abortion rights into law amidst anti-trans laws that were coming from the opposition. they just don't work. voters are looking for real plans, not just concepts of plans to move our nation forward, not people who are going to attack communities who are already at the margins, or attack our basic ability to make personal healthcare decisions. x you mentioned a while, these ads are not just coming from the trump campaign. i want to play an ad from the senate leadership fund, a top gop super pac that has been airing in ohio against democrat sharon brown. >> it is just common sense. sharon brown talks about common sense, but brown voted multiple times to allow transgender biological males to participate in girls sports. brown supported allowing minor

children to receive sex change surgeries. >> as you watch these ads, kelly, i mean, what strikes you about how trans people are presented here? >> first, these are lies. i mean, the fact that they are running straight misinformation and lies to build on -- to create more harm to a community that already is experiencing it, is just foul. look, i work in the community every single day, i'm in the suburbs of atlanta right now talking to lgbtq+ votes, and what is clear is we are a community that is already under attack. the fbi just released a new numbers that said hate crimes against our community are increasing. by contributing to this kind of fear against a community that is already small and unknown in so many places, it is dangerous. we saw with their blatant lies against the immigrant community ohio did, i'm very concerned for every child watching this, for every community member that has got an lgbtq+ member of

their family. i want them to know that there are people that are standing with them and these ads will not work. they haven't worked in other cycles and they won't work this year either. >> there is a recent new york times siena college poll that found 56% of likely voters in arizona, georgia, north carolina believe society should accept transgender people as having the gender they identify with, compared to 35% who are opposed to that idea. what does this tell you about progress or the lack of progress? >> i think this is a really powerful thing, because what i see from donald trump and jade events as they are fighting for a future that has already arrived. 30% of gen z identifies as a member of lgbtq+ community, many of them identifying as trans and non-binary. more americans than ever support a quality in this country, including the poll you just showed, the majority of americans support trans people being able to identify is exactly who they are. in this moment, we need leaders who actually plan to drive our

community forward and have us heal as a nation, not so more division. and i think that is what we see from kamala harris and tim walz. two people who have stuck with our community over decades, and now it is our job to stand with them. >> certainly trump/pence weaponized the trans issue, going after the vice president, as well as her presidential running mate. do you see that being a tool of weaponizing against the democrats, because we were talking about this in the earlier segment, what do democrats need to do to energize and mobilize more of their base, should they be leaning more into these issues that appeal to more people on the left of politics? >> we have seen some incredible work from democrats across the board, but especially from kamala harris and tim walz. these are two candidates who have decades of experience supporting our community. kamala harris officiating some of the first same sex weddings in california. tim walz protecting healthcare access for transit folks.

we actually saw this week even more investment from the campaign in our community. the dnc for the first time in its history launched a six- figure ad. here's the reality, there are 75 million voters across this country who prioritize lgbtq priorities. we are a powerful constituency, and not only that, we are growing with the number of ls and people that support our issues. the campaign understands that it is not just the right thing to do, it is also the thing to do that is most politically powerful. >> kelly robinson, thank you so much, always a pleasure to have you on the show. up next, a concerning case of deja vu in gaza. one year into this war, and that includes what we are hearing from u.s. officials. >> [ music ] >> [ music ] and 5g solutions from t-mobile for business. t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees. powers tractor supply stores nationwide

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more than a year into israel's war on gaza, as global attention has shifted elsewhere, the israeli military's fresh evacuation orders in northern gaza had triggered a particularly brutal a few weeks for 400,000 trapped palestinians. even hospitals supposedly protected as mandatory evacuation zones were spared. staff and patients were given just 24 hours to leave. in a statement, the palestinian ministry of health said they were threatened that otherwise they would face the same fate as the al-shifa hospital with the destruction, killing, and arrests. many doctors put their own safety on the line, choosing to stay behind to care for patients that were in no condition to evacuate. just days after reportedly making those threats, israel struck a different hospital in a refugee camp that was meant to be a safe zone. the attacks there killed over 20 people, including nearby doctors and humanitarian workers with little to no warnings, according to doctors without borders. that same day, an air strike also destroyed the northern

gaza's last functioning bakery, supported by the world food program. these are just a few examples of the horrors from the past week. social media was flooded with videos showing families, children, and babies pulled from the rubble, along with the victims of the wreck shootings by israeli forces on the ground. we also saw the relentless targeting of those exposing these atrocities, journalists. just four days ago, a cameraman was filming the aftermath of the bombardments and the ground offensive, something he did every day as part of his job, and then this happened. wearing his press vest, he was shot by a sniper in the neck in front of his colleagues. he is now in critical condition and left paralyzed with little access to care, according to the committee to protect journalists. he is really military has yet

to comment. to those of us following this war, it all feels eerily familiar, because we have been here before. in fact, one year ago today, the israeli military issued its first evacuation orders for northern gaza, displacing over 1 million palestinians from their homes. a few days after israel began its attacks on october 7th, we saw similar headlines. 24 hours for civilians to flee, patients being forced to leave hospitals, and journalists getting killed. hospitals across gaza, not just in the north, are trapped in a year-long cycle. evacuation orders are issued. israeli forces destroy the facilities, and staff and patients flee. there then told that it is safe to return, only for the process to repeat itself months later. something else that is similar to one year ago, where palestinians are being told to go. this is what we heard from the israeli ambassador to the uk last december. >> the place where they all can

have shelters, together with international organizations, we created shelters are the palestinian people, so you cannot say israel is not facilitating that. >> all right, take a look at those giant craters there on your screen. in them, dozens of melted, dead palestinian bodies. on multiple occasions, israel dropped a 2000 pound u.s. supplied bombs on this so- called safe zone. this is where palestinians and northern gaza are being told to go to once again. now, there is one key difference this time around, even though the images coming from the north seem even more violent and more disturbing, they are getting a lot less immediate attention now than they were one year ago. in the u.s., many of us are hyper focused on upcoming u.s. elections that are just weeks away. and for the rest of the world, the attention is now divided between israel attacking lebanon and the increasing tensions between israel and

iran. this lack of focus only enables israel to act with even more impurity than what we have witnessed already. but let's be clear, our politicians do know what is happening, which brings me more to another appalling case of deja vu. >> deeply concerned, seriously concerned about it. the president is concerned. absolutely, we are concerned about it. >> we are deeply concerned. >> we are certainly deeply concerned. that's of course we are, we are deeply concerned with >> deeply, deeply concerning. >> we have been greatly concerned. we are incredibly concerned with >> we are deeply concerned. >> there is that phrase again. a year later, the biden administration is still saying it is concerned. no, it is deeply concerned, while doing nothing to stop this. stay with us. ith us. om school, he's just there always. mash it up doofus. ever since we introduced him to the farmer's dog, his quality of life has been forever changed.

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>> yes, actually, it is the ninth day of a siege. [ inaudible ] separating northern gaza and gaza city. actually, [ inaudible ] coming to the hospital. that hospital in the north. we have to deal with [ inaudible ] coming to the hospital actually, and the kind of injuries are really complicated. dealing with these injuries that are a very difficult situation. and actually, there is also

many challenges that we face in the north at the hospitals in the north, we have a shortage of medical supplies and medication. [ inaudible ] they are coming to bring the fuel, but they're always stopping this mission, we are working in very difficult and hard situation. many we don't know how to do with these kind of injuries, because we don't have the specialists. now we don't have neurosurgery in the northern gaza strip, so

they have to die because there's nobody who can take care. also, vascular surgery is, so we are doing many of the amputation operations because we don't have these specialists. [ inaudible ] >> the let me ask you specifically, just really quickly, about the hospital, it is one of the three where people are being told to evacuate, but these areas were already in mandatory evacuation zones before, right? how are you and your staff handling this, do you plan on staying at the hospital, and what is motivating your decision? >> yes, [ inaudible ] working

for long years to help our people, and we work under conflict, so we have to deal with all the cases in the north, and whatever is needed, the services. seven days, they are warning gaza to evacuate, and [ inaudible ] our hospital is already out of service. then women will die. [ inaudible ] we are also providing services -- [ inaudible ] hundreds of thousands of people, where do they go?

we have to evacuate and it is impossible to evacuate the hospital, because [ inaudible ] 56 inpatient, they need operations, their complicated cases. if we have to evacuate, many lives we will lose. >> there was a united nations inquiry, dr., earlier this week, that accused israel of seeking to destroy gaza's healthcare system. what do you have to say to that, from where you sit today, do you believe that hospitals -- and have you seen evidence that hospitals are being directly targeted, including your hospital? >> yes, from the beginning of this, since the seventh of october, the israeli occupation forces are targeting the hospitals. the hospital was targeted eight times before. they are bombing, they are destroying our capacity of beds. destroyed our ambulances. they destroyed our management.

so, there really targeting the hospitals. and also, al-shifa hospital is out of service a month ago. and also, there are two hospitals that we have. it's out of service, [ inaudible ] we can't evacuate, and if even there is one person that needs services. so, because of that, the israelis are targeting the hospitals. they say there is a weapon, but actually, [ inaudible ] one time in december and another time in may, they're entering the hospital. they didn't find anything because we are a nongovernment organization, working with the w.h.o., and our partner, and

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