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welcome to prime time weekend. nicolle wallace. it's the right to the week's top stories. and what is undeniably a heart pounding white knuckle type type type presidential race, and i can mean one thing. it's time to bring in the closers. it's time to unleash the democrats singular political talent to make an urgent case for this moment. >> what i cannot understand is
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why anybody would think that donald trump would shake things up in a way that is good for you, pennsylvania. i don't understand that. tand t. because there is absolutely no evidence that this man thinks about anybody but himself. i've said it before, donald trump is a 78-year-old millionaire who is not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his golden escalator nine years ago. you got the tweet in all caps, the ranting and the raving about crazy conspiracy theories. the two hour speeches, word
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salad, just -- it's like fidel castro. constant attempts to sell you stuff. who does that? selling you gold sneakers, a $1000 watch, and most recently, a trump table. he wants you to buy the word of god, donald trump edition. right there next to matthew and luke. i mean, you could not make this stuff up. if you saw it on saturday night live, you'd say, that's going too far. no, he is doing that. it's crazy. and the reason he does it is
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because all he cares about is his ego and his money and his status. he's not thinking about you. do you think he cares about you? >> president barack obama at that rally last night in pittsburgh doing what he does better than just about anyone, shrinking donald trump way down to size, puncturing trump's toxic divisive self-centered nonsense by laying out the facts and using humor. president obama didn't just deploy humor, he also did something rather rare for him, showing a flash of anger and frustration that is deeply relatable. here he is talking about trump's lies about hurricane relief efforts. >> the idea of intentionally trying to deceive people in their most desperate and vulnerable moment. and my
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question is, when did that become okay? i'm not looking for applause right now. i want to ask republicans out there. you know, people who are conservative. who didn't vote for me, who didn't agree with me. i have friends who disagree with me on every issue. when did that become okay? why would we go along with that? >> you know who he's talking to. when did that become okay, guys? what president obama did last night and what he will continue to do as he campaigns, as he bonds for kamala harris in the coming weeks is to rally enthusiasm and support for
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campaign, yes, but to also give voters a permission structure to do what he did -- to shrink trump down to size. a permission structure to callout what is been going on for years now, of trump's pathological need to, as president obama puts it, deceive moments in their most desperate and vulnerable moments. as only a political athlete of his caliber can do, president obama went in for a surgical political strike. he had a public event directly to african-american men in pittsburgh. >> we have not yet seen the same kinds of energy and turnout in all corners of our neighborhoods and communities, as we saw. now, i also want to say that that seems to be more pronounced in our brothers. on the one hand, you have
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somebody who grew up like you. knows you. went to college with you. and overcome. on the other side of you, someone who is consistently shown not just for communities, but for you as a person. you are coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses . i have a problem with that. because part of it -- and i'm speaking to men directly -- you
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should start feeling the idea. were coming up with other alternatives and reasons. these are not ordinary mentions. i'm sure of that. >> straight talk. a direct call to action from president obama to black men. a call to action to anyone who cares about the truth, empathy. from a messenger who is second to none in terms of rallying a winning coalition and speaking to the conscience of our great country. it's where we start today with democratic strategist and president of brilliant corners research, cornell belcher. and with me at the table for the hour, president of the national action network, host a politics nation, the reverend al sharpton. what did you think? >> i thought it was great. i really think that president
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obama spoke directly in both settings that you showed. and i think in a way that only he can do it. let's not forget that he was the president during the good times, or better times, that donald trump tries to take credit for. he handed donald trump a stable economy that he undermined. so all you have to say to black men is, look at what unemployment had gone down to under obama. look where it went under trump. look where criminal justice was. trump was president during george floyd. all of this. what did he do? what did joe biden and harris do when they got in office on cases? so if you look at the facts, they clearly can't say that there's a reason to go it donald trump or sit this out and let a guy who has been antithetical. central park five wanted to have people executed
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that were innocent and never said anything different. he says he stands by it now. on and on, as late as yesterday, saying if harris was elected, the whole country would be like detroit, which was racial overtones then. so i understand blackman young men that fueled disaffected, but you're going to be disaffected again somebody that has done everything but call you the n-word in public? yeah, there's got to be some massage neither. there has to be some are you against women? i think the president obama was the right one to bring the message. the other thing that i think we keep missing here is that donald trump is not a newcomer. why do you think he's going to do now what he didn't do in the four years he was there? i mean, he is telling blacks he will do -- you had four years to do it, and you did nothing but call us names and ignore george floyd and others until
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you went in front of a church with a bible and lectured the protesters and never said a word about the police, who killed a man unarmed. >> cornell, if i could just sort of -- just try to turn this over to both of you, because i have a problem whenever it falls to -- and maybe this is my own status as a political refugee of the coalition, but it shouldn't fall to black women or black men to save the country from donald trump. when you look at where this contest is, it might. and i want to get you to speak to -- with your knowledge, how big of a political problem this is right now, that president obama did that so publicly. he knew exactly what he was doing. he knew exactly where the cameras are, and exactly what he was saying, and it felt like he invoked michelle at a strategic moment as well. but just to lay out what this strategic exercise is over the next 25 days. >> thank you for that.
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nicole, first, i want to level set, because there's a lot of ridiculousness out there. i actually do want to level set. if you go back to 2008 and 2012, i was a part of the obama campaign. and what you saw was -- she knows this better than anybody, that you saw for the first time in our history that black voters became the most likely voter in l.a. black turnout actually outpaced that a black turnout, which was historical, with a shadow of the anniversary of the civil rights. the voting rights act. african-americans actually turned out in 2008 and 2012 and was higher than that of whites. in 2012, it was three points higher. what is happened since then? go to 2016 and drop back down. you know, three or four points below that. go to 2022, it's 11 points. so you do have african- americans pulling back from
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turnout. what did we do in 2008 and 2012? we actually need to give these people something to vote for. i hear that donald trump is horrible and he's racist, but nicole, i can tell you right now i sit and focus group sometimes and i hear undecided or african-americans were still on the fence going, yeah. this is not about donald trump. i'm never going to vote for donald trump. i'm hurting economically. and what i would simply say is, just like any other voting group, you know, the african- american men, i think it's more than just men. i think it's sort of more than the younger african-american soto cohort, because that's where turnout has dropped off the most. they need an economic argument for why to vote for her, right? give them a forward, inclusive,
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economic message that speaks specifically to their angst and their hopes, and the challenges that they have in their life, which is different. i think you will move those voters just like you move any other voter. to your last point, yes, it's going to come down to the african-american voters because michigan and pennsylvania, and wisconsin, because if you tell me what the african-american turnout is on election day, to be tell me that african- american turnout in wisconsin, in milwaukee, which is seen the most dramatic drops in turnout, if you tell me the black voters are turning out in milwaukee at the same rate that white voters are turning out, i'm going to tell you she's going to win. she's gonna win in wisconsin. is a majority of voters are not going to vote for her. we seen this, what did -- what did biden get? biden got roughly 42, 41% of the white vote. the vast majority of white voters voted
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against him, but we have a browning electorate, which means those black and hispanic and asian voters are more and more important to the coalition and can define what states we win or lose in. >> still ahead for us today, policy and empathy on pole display yesterday on a town in nevada vice president kamala harris, where she was seeking to strike that balance before vitally important hispanic voters. we will play some of what she had to say last night. night.
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>> you and i have something in common. we both lost our mother. and i'm an american citizen born to mexican parents. they were here before i was even born. they worked their whole lives. with the way immigration laws change over time, i was only able to help my dad through his legal status squared away, but not my moms. my mom passed away just six weeks ago. >> oh, i am so sorry. >> she was never, ever able to get the type of care and service that she needed or deserved. >> take your time. take your time. >> my question for you is, do
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you have plans to support that subgroup of immigrants living here their whole lives were most of them have to live and die in the shadows? >> i am so sorry for you. >> thank you. >> you must remember your mother as she lived. i have enough of a feeling about your strength that it probably comes through her to know she would want you to remember how she lived, and not as she died, okay? >> you don't get to rehearse for moments like that. politicians go to town halls not knowing what they are going to face. not everybody would react like that in the face of someone's unbearable grief. who lost their mother six weeks ago. and it was an important thing for everyone to see and really take in, and an incredible
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moment last night the vice president harris at the town hall with univision. the unscripted questions to take whatever came at her. from undecided latino voters, the intense and emotional questions she faced gave her a chance to do all sorts of things, to share her policies, to show her empathy, and her humanity while making her case to a vital block of voters ahead of this election. we are back with alecia. i had read it, but i hadn't seen it. it is -- what people are dealing with is so much more important than anything that donald trump is offering. and i understand the conversation. i understand there are people who don't feel spoken to or reached. we are not talking to the microphone. but what people are really dealing with deserves -- i got back to the vice president's line in her commencement
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speech. he is an unserious man. >> to see that moment, it happened early in the town hall and it really set the pace for what would be the rest of the town hall. re-thoughtful and considerate. she talks about a lot of policies, including immigration, talking about inflation, price gouging, things that latino voters care about. what i found so interesting beyond the empathy that donald trump would never have been able to communicate when faced with a similar question was, this was a reminder that the entire conversation about immigration has shifted to the u.s./mexico border, and that is in fact an important issue. there are a lot of voters who care about what is happening at the u.s./mexico border, but there are also millions of immigrants on the interior of this country like that young woman's mother who have lived here and made their lives here. and to me, it sort of reflected how fraught our discourse around immigration has become in this country. that sort of extended answer
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that the vice president gives beyond connecting, and she pivoted to the bipartisan border deal, she talked about prosecuting cartels in her former role in california. but she chose not to lean into the things that the biden and harris administration has done for immigrants just like that woman's mother. she didn't talk about protecting daca recipients at a time when republican ag's ours doing to rescind. she didn't talk about the effort to allow undocumented folks were married to an american citizen to stay in this country legally. she didn't talk about the designation and project 2025 which wants to get rid of. she didn't talk about the fact that the republican national convention had a sea of people holding up signs that said, mass deportations now. those were homemade signs. they were signs that were produced and paid for by
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political party in the image of donald trump. this was a beautiful moment. and i think a reminder of where we find ourselves when it comes to talking about this incredibly complex issue. and also a reminder that we slipped into their frame. immigration is not just about what is happening at the border. it's also about the people who make this country alive and vibrant. >> what you think shouldn't talk about any of those other things? >> i think she's afraid that there's a political price, that she is not able to maintain her strength on the border while simultaneously saying, we can be a nation that is totally warm and welcoming. >> three words. ronald reagan, john mccain, and george w. bush. they were all for amnesty and they all failed -- is an opportunity to show extremely radical the republican party is. what mccain and bush were foreign '04 and '05 was
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copperheads of immigration reform which at that time, there were 11 to 17 million people, as her mother was living in the shadows. is it your feeling that the politics are to sound to be shallow? >> yes. correct. and i think she knows that she is walking a tight rope here. i also think the polling around this gets very wonky. i think we have sat here at this table or talked about that number, asking people if they want to see a mass deportation, an alarming number of americans say yes. i don't think we are being specific enough about whether or not we are talking about 11 million people on the interior of this country because they live next door to you and your kids go to school with them. i happen to feel differently even than those folks about the desperate people who are coming to the u.s./mexico border. but i think we have misunderstood what a lot of american voters are trying to tell us when they are asked that question about immigration , and they want to see people
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do something. >> she pivots to the bipartisan border deal as it was an opportunity to do something and an opportunity to be serious, and donald trump -- he likes this is a political issue. >> it's also donald trump bragging in the deposition about being able to grab women between the legs. it is still his position today as we eat breathe and live. in 1 million years, that's what famous people can do. to alisha's point, he is going harder and darker because he thinks the shallowness -- it is dehumanization. he thinks a dehumanizing legal -- residents living in springfield, ohio, and he is targeting communities all over the battleground states, is a winning political strategy. what, in your view, is the best response? >> i think the best response is to lay out exactly what he
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saying and whites against the interest of american people. let's also talk about the cost. how are you want to pay for that? who's going to pay for it? the guy who was going to build a wall that mexico was going to pay for that is still not there? you need to be able to take it down, but take down his arguments, take down the absurdity of what he is saying, and then deal with the humanity of what he is saying, which is what this young lady's question was. i would have an ad out tonight if i was in the harris campaign showing her compassion for that young lady, and him throwing paper towels at people in puerto rico after a hurricane. i mean, he literally threw towels and people like you couldn't touch him. you got to show the reason that policies are so bad if they don't care about the people, and they don't care about any people and how empathy came through. i think you are right. you couldn't rehearse that. kamala harris not only has a policy message and a track
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record that, do they play into the right wing? and fox news just taking a clip saying she said this, that, or the other. but they also have empathy. >> bombshell new reporting about the disgraced ex- presidents bizarrely intimate relationship with vladimir putin. it comes from bob wilburn's new book with donald trump sending covid test to vladimir putin for his personal use in 2020 while the people he led a scramble to find them. that really happened. there's more where that came from. the latest examples of trump's inexplicable obsession and affinity with one of the world's authoritarians leaders. don't go anywhere. like you know to check the sign first, before parking. oh! aww, man. think you can pay a parking ticket in heirloom tomatoes? so check allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. ( ♪♪ ) my name is jaxon,
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and this guy who is president of the united states is sending them to russia to a murderous dictator for his personal use? the point being, that is just the most recent stark example of who donald trump is, that he secretly sent covid test kits for the personal use of putin, of russia, an adversary to the united states when he was talking about americans should be putting bleach in their blood. >> that was vice president harris today reacting to this unbelievable surreal new reporting in the forthcoming book by bob woodward. at the height of the coronavirus pandemic, while donald trump was the president of the united states of america, and 2020, he's secretly sent putin some
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abbott point-of-care copy machines for his use. it was a favor to the murderous dictator of russia who was infamously terrified of contracting covid. but his vice president, harris pointed out, americans here are struggling to get access to tests themselves, as there was a shortage of the time. woodward writes that putin was worried about how this revelation would damage trump politically. putin telling trump this, quote, i don't you want people to tell anybody because people get mad at you, not me. and the personal relationship between the two, donald trump and vladimir putin, has persisted and may be deepened over the last four years with woodward reporting that donald trump is secretly spoken to vladimir putin as many as seven times and sleeping office. while the trump campaign dismissed woodward's book in a statement today, he did not address any of the specifics reported in it by woodward. running our coverage, and be seen used chief international
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analyst, former supreme allied commander of nato, admiral james is here. he's the author of brand-new book, the restless wave, a novel of the united states navy. also joining our conversation, former under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs during the obama administration. seven times. i don't think has appeared seven times in public. >> i have kind of two immediate reactions. one is, this sounds immodest, but i have received 50 metals over the years. 28 from foreign nations. the decoration on the proudest of them is being sanctioned by the kremlin. so i back up to nobody my loathing for vladimir putin. and, you know, i just published this novel.
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it is impossible to think about the fictional element of this. you have to really struggle to come up with a plot like this. and outrageous doesn't begin to get added. >> you know, you spoke to him second times in the four years since trump took office. donald trump was charged with stealing classified documents, and vladimir putin publicly planned a war against ukraine. you have any security concerns? >> of course. let's back up and examine, who is vladimir putin? he is a murderer. he is someone who has absolutely used every tool to suppress his own people. he has kidnapped americans and effectively held them for ransom. it is an absolutely loathsome individual. so why a former president of the united states would be in frequent communication, yes. i have national security concerns, let me close with
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this -- let me tell you for sure, the russians have recorded every bit of that conversation. i vowed my good friend rick stangl in terms of the public relations of this, but can you spell compromised -- compromise the ability of russia to potentially blackmail a former and possibly the next president ? it is quite shocking. >> well, we are back to -- i guess a '16, it was a take, but we are back to the question. you used that word. it is something that is hung over donald trump since he stepped into public life. >> i have often tried the thought experiment that goes as follows. donald trump is an agent of vladimir putin. prove the opposite. i mean, there is no evidence. >> i usually go with useful idiots, but keep going.
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>> there's no evidence that is not a kind of oligarch out of the country for vladimir putin. the seven calls, i don't know why people are not talking about the logan act. the logan act -- when you're talking to the leader of a hostile foreign power about u.s. foreign policy, that is something that people should think about. but you know, this goes so far back. it goes back to the 1980s. it goes back to the fact that he married a czechoslovakian woman when czechoslovakia was behind the iron curtain. not only are they recording those phone calls, as joon said, they have been open to file for him back in the 80s. the time he was trying to open trump tower in moscow, when he brought the miss universe contest to moscow in the 1980s and said, putin loves me. i mean, it is really strange, and someday, you know, when some kgb officer defects, we will find out the true story. >> seven phone calls of vladimir putin. i mean, what are your -- if
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someone said you can listen all seven of them, what is your theory on it? >> it's funny. what we have heard from calls that he's had with foreign leaders like the zelenksyy phone call, and there was a terrific story in the new york times today about the hamburg conference. in 2017. and what you find about the conversations is that one guy is talking 97% of the time, and that's vladimir putin, and one guy is listening. what was so upsetting as he was coached to go in there to defend ukraine, you have to defend u.s. interests, and he actually asked putin the question, do you think i should be giving aid to ukraine? this is maybe the worst presidential negotiation in american history from a guy who claims to be a good negotiator. i think putin is talking his ear off, and he is listening. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence...
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>> up next, donald trump knows the importance of the state of michigan and the voters there. so we are wondering, why even insult the people of michigan who live there? well, they trashed the biggest city in the state. how the harris campaign is answering that and responding. . you mastered it! you fixed it! you nailed it! you did it! with centrum silver. clinically proven to support memory in older adults.
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>> the whole country is going to be like, it will be like detroit. our whole country will end up being like detroit if she is the president. it would have a mess on your hands. >> taken by itself, the comment is nasty and as undercurrents of racism. it's unnecessary and cruel. it is a massive political story and scandal. because it happened in detroit, and they are currently campaigning to lead the united states of america and went to a major american city, the biggest city in michigan, and disparaged that city to its own
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residence, and as expected, those who live and work and call detroit and michigan home snapped back with pride from the city's mayor, mike duggan -- detroit just posted the largest nfl draft in history. the tigers are back in the playoffs. the lions are headed to the super bowl. crime is down and our population is growing. lots of cities should be like detroit. we did it all without trump's help. michigan's attorney general said this, quote -- this guy is calling us ugly and then asking us out on a date. we all know that guy. in the state's governor, gretchen whitmer, stood by the motor city. quote, detroit is the epitome of grit defined by winners willing to get their hands dirty to build up their city and create their communities. something donald trump could never understand. so keep detroit out of your mouth, and you better believe the traders won't forget this in november. donald trump believe
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continuously criticizes new york city while he was here for his fraud and criminal trials, and this summer, he called milwaukee horrible right before the city of milwaukee hosted him and the republican national convention. at least that time he panned the city before you physically write in it. but his detroit attack makes no sense, even for him. given that we are 25 days from election day, the 16 electoral votes are key to clinching victory in the presidential race for both campaigns. trump knows how important this state is. he won by only 10,000 voice in 2016 and he lost it to president joe biden in 2020. right now, the polls in michigan show trump and vice president harris locked in a dead heat for that state. a new survey shows donald trump with a 3 point lead and another shows the two candidates tied. since this moment, every vote especially in michigan and even in detroit counts mightily,
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except to donald trump. vice president harris making sure trump's comments are not missed. this brand-new ad will air during the detroit lions and detroit tigers games this weekend. watch. >> they said we were dead. >> detroit waving a white flag, the city filing for bankruptcy. >> that our best days were behind us. that living here is like -- >> living in . >> you what we said? we said -- that. we rebuild ourselves. we look out for each other. got our hands dirty and put in the hard work. does this guy even know anything about that? we are a city of winners, of up and comers, a builders. the motor city. bigger and better. we don't bow down to nobody. and so what donald trump doesn't understand or care to learn is that when he said --
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>> our whole country will end up being like detroit. >> that he should be so lucky. >> i am kamala harris, and i approve this message. >> mallory mcmurdo and michigan attorney general dana nestle. i start with you, your reaction. >> wow. it is just a really interesting tactic to try to get people from the state of michigan who love the city of detroit to try to come out and vote for him by disparaging a city that has been through some really tough times but is one that is really recovered incredibly. and i would suggest this. detroit unfortunately did go through a bankruptcy about a decade ago, it has really rebounded since then. trump on the other hand has been through six bankruptcies, and i don't think he's done nearly as well as we have here in the city of detroit. >> against every measure, he
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shrinks. madame state senator, your thoughts. >> i mean, what a tactic. i don't think any of us should be surprised at this point, but every day it still is surprising. it's like inviting a friend to your house, and they look around and tell you how much of a dump it is, and they expect to be invited back. what i heard here was dog whistling. and trump trying to divide americans against each other and michiganders against michiganders. this is a time when the city of detroit is thriving, and all of us, that no matter where you live in the state of michigan, are benefiting from it. the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of people come in for the nfl draft to experience the city for the first time and share how lovely and wonderful it is. you know, i think that donald trump is trying to lean into a time that no longer exists here in michigan.
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we all have each other's backs and we are not going to let him divide us against each other. >> let me ask most of you with your expertise and knowledge of bumper stickers and yard signs and having stood before the voters of michigan where you think the race stands right now . you first, madame attorney general. >> i think it is tight. you know? there's a lot of enthusiasm for kamala harris and a lot of enthusiasm for her. it would be interesting to see as the, you know, the early votes, the absentee votes start to come in, you know, where those votes are coming from. i will say this, i was in detroit all last weekend campaigning for kamala harris. and i think people are really energized to get out to the polls. but as senator mcmurdo indicated, trump is really trying to divide us against each other, and to some extent, in some areas, unfortunately, his continual lies and misrepresentations sometimes
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have an impact. and we just have to remember that in the state of michigan, it's a very purple state, there are more democrats than republicans. as long as people come out to the polls, michigan is going to continue to go blue in presidential elections. >> senator, it's the second time it's been set on the air that the outcome in november will be determined by who turns out. and so i view this just in the political malpractice category as a double foul. i mean, trump offended people in the state, and i feel like the city has sort of like your family member. where, you can tell them you don't like them how they done their hair, but nobody else can. so i want to show you how governor tim walz is using this and deploying it. >> just yesterday, donald trump was in detroit, and he said, our whole country will end up being detroit. would have a mess on your hands.
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well -- look. i know you don't -- that's not unexpected for him. that's exactly what he's going to do. tear down america. if the guy was to spend any time in the midwest, we know detroit's experiencing american comeback and renaissance. mebac look, i'm a twins fan. we know where this is. detroit is there. we know. the city is growing, to crime is down, factories are opening up. all they know about manufacturing is manufacturing -- every time they show up. >> this was as blunt as it is, and this was -- everyone loves an american comeback story. and senator, he seems to have missed -- he's missing a lot of that, and i'll show you that conversation as well, but this feels pivotal in a state that takes a lot of pride in its
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comeback as well. >> i think that is exactly right. to me, this is a really ugly example of what he is trying to do, which is, donald trump is actively trying to whip up white vote by convincing white people, maybe you don't live in detroit, that something nefarious is happening. we saw this happen in 2020 one donald trump pressured members of the michigan gop to descend on the absentee count extender in detroit, and you saw those visuals of largely white people not from detroit banging on the glass, intimidating largely black election workers. and he's trying to do it again. he's trying to dog whistle. but he's missing the moment. because right now, all of michigan is celebrating detroit's comeback. we are all rooting for the tigers, were all rooting for the lions, we are all rooting for our city and how beautiful it is because we understand that michigan does not succeed if detroit doesn't succeed. so he has lost.
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