i did not want to congratulate the baltimore ravens on beating the washington commanders yesterday, but in one minute it will be the birthday of the maryland governor and because it is his birthday, i will say

nice win, ravens. i hope the commanders get you next time. on that night -- note i wish you a very good night and from all of our colleagues at nbc news. thank you for staying up late. i will see you tomorrow. i am really happy to have you tonight and today the stock market closed above 43,000 for the first time in history and that is the dow jones industrial average hitting an all-time high and the s&p 500 hit its all-time high today as well and this isn't a flash in the pan and we just hit two years of this bull market in this year the s&p 500 is up almost 23% in one year. inflation is where it was when trump left office and economic

growth and the first three years of the biden/harris administration we now know is higher than economic growth was under the first three years of the trump administration and the trump people don't like you to count the fourth-year and they don't like you to count the economic catastrophe we all experienced under trump and his fourth year in office and they say the pandemic and is fourth- year it means that it shouldn't count or anything that happened under his watch then which is frankly pretty weak sauce but, okay even if you take him on those week terms and cut out the real lived economic catastrophe on his watch during the pandemic other than that, mrs. lincoln how is the play but even if you cut out the fourth-year because of covid, we know economic growth under biden and harris is better and in their first three years and it was under trump in his first three years. economic growth is up and wages

are up. retail sales are good. interest rates are dropping. we have record highs on wall street and biden and harris and said ministration has produced the best job growth numbers of any presidential administration in american history by a mile and unemployment numbers are profoundly low in a sustained way and the best unemployment figures we have seen in decades. a few days ago the new york times summed it all up begrudgingly with this. " the economy is robust and by many measures the job market is as healthy as it has ever been. " as healthy as it has ever been in the history of the united states of america and right now we have the best job market that we have ever had as a country as long as we have existed as a country. and at the washington posts

they had a headline "this is a great economy. growth is strong and unemployment is low. inflation is back down and many americans are getting sizable pay raises with middle-class wealth surging to record levels. the united states has nearly 7 million more jobs than it did before the pandemic. and we have the largest share of adults ages 25 to 54 working in more than two decades in the largest share working in 24 years. americans in the bottom 40% of income have experienced the fastest of all the wages and growth in the largest surge in wealth since the end of 2019 has gone to the bottom 50% in income. the bottom line is 2024 is shaping up to be one of the best economic years of many

americans lifetimes. and, regardless of what your priorities are for the election, the economy is generally seen as the most important issue for the most important voters. and because of that and because of that preference among voters and that interest among voters and what you see in the economic news, you now see the political press, sort of begrudgingly admit that it turns out the biden administration is leaving in its wake a fantastic economy. when i say begrudging, the sort of subtext for all of it and sometimes the overt text of all of it in the political process is, yes, it is a really great economy and historically great but surely can that and if it kamala harris? i know you have seen headlines like this and here's a typical one from a few days ago from politico saying "harrises

riding a dream economy into the election. it may be too late for voters to notice. it is a dream economy and the unemployment rate stands at 4.1% with the s&p 500 stock index and gdp growing at a robust 3% pace and middle-class americans are more optimistic about their financial future with gas prices falling in the economy added one quarter of 1 million jobs far higher than expectations. it is a dream economy. that is being left by the biden/harris administration but harris can't benefit from that politically, can she? i do have a question for business people, business minded people or even for people who say that business and economic issues are their maine concern , and that is what is driving them as they think about this election.

i feel like even for those of us who don't think of ourselves as business minded people or business people or for people for whom this is our top priority, a lot of us have respect for people who define themselves that way and it's a respectable serious way to look at the world. maybe vicious -- business issues at my top thing or economic issues or not, i don't know but if they are, credit to you and i am interested in how you make those decisions on that basis and it's a respectable approach to those kind of difficult questions. this issue of making a business decision about this votes or election, it comes up all the time when you look at real- world support for donald trump or why relatively normal people say they will vote for him. yes, he tried to stay in power by sending a violent mob the cry -- congress and he's been convicted of 34 felonies and awaiting trial on other charges

and he told americans they could inject disinfectants for covid and made it government policy to take the kids away from their moms and dads and gave pardons to all his friends and got impeached twice. he is now running for reelection by talking about people with bad genes poisoning the blood of america and how we use the military to build gigantic camps and roundup tens of millions of people in america and put them in these huge camps. yes, there are things about him that are not appealing maybe in things about him that sound nutty. but you do hear this all the time. but his policies. if you are just an economic minded person or a business minded person, then you are big enough or above it all enough to not really care about or think about stuff like that but just in it for the policies. and like georgia governor kemp said last week this is the same

brian kemp that trump tried to force out the election results from his state and he said he is voting for trump this time anyway and he said last week, "look, you may not like donald trump personally, but you like his policies. it is a business decision. you are making a business decision. that is mostly what i want to talk about tonight. tell me, what is a business decision in this case? is it who will do a better job handling the economy? because, as we come to the end of the biden/harris administration now, here is this special report just put out today by the economist magazine and the title is, the american economy, the envy of the world and this is a multi- day special report coming out now from the economist and here is the first installment in this multipart series out today. the american economy has left

other rich countries in the dust. and that is the american economy at the end of the biden/harris administration. if you are making a business decision about who does a better job handling the economy, the biden/harris economy has not only left every other rich country in the world in the dust but left the record of the trump administration in the dust. literally what they call a dream economy, the best job market in the history of the united states. that is what the biden/harris administration has done in their management of the u.s. economy. is that what you base your business decision on? maybe it isn't the broad question of who does the best job with the economy or who has shown that. maybe your business decision when it comes to this election is more specific. maybe it is about the deficit. maybe you are a fiscal hawk, and that is the basis of your

business decision. but here is the headline today at the wall street journal. economist say inflation and deficits will be higher under trump than harrison according to a quarterly survey by the wall street journal, most economists think inflation, interest rates and deficits would be higher into the policies former president trump would pursue in a second administration then under those proposed by vice president harris. 65% of economists see trumps proposed policies putting more upward pressure on the federal deficit then kamala harris's policies and the committee for a responsible federal budget estimates trumps plans would widen federal deficits by more than twice the expected increase under harris. so if that is the basis for your business decision about the selection and if all you care about you say is fiscal

responsibility in bringing the deficit down, trump doubles harris and he lapsed harris in terms of what he is planning to pile on to the deficit. and similarly, let's say your business decision on the selection is on inflation. well, that is also a business decision about this election that should point you in one direction. of the economists who responded about inflation, 68% said prices would rise faster under trump than harris. 68% of economists don't agree that today is monday or the patriots suck this year but 68 percent agree that trump is proposing really bad policies if what you care about is inflation. so what are you basing your business decision on when you think about this election? maybe your business decision is less about data and policy but more about the kind of person you want the candidate to be and you hear this all the time

from people who describe themselves as making a business decision about how to vote. they say they want somebody centrist and moderate, sensible and somebody in the middle which is good for business. somebody who can appeal to reasonable people in both parties. if that is your approach to your business decision about the selection, there is a candidate in the selection who is a lot of very high profile support from people in the other party. and just today the harris campaign released the latest advertisement from another republican endorsing harrison and in this case the republican mayor of an important conservative city in swing state arizona. there is like a campaign trail tour group and a former trump administration official doing swing state events to tell people to not vote for the man they served under in the last

presidential administration under trump but instead touring the swing states telling people to vote for kamala harris and notice there is no equivalent to that on the other side or a group like former biden officials for trump or former obama officials for trump and there is nothing like that but there are a lot of officials from former republican administrations and from trump's own administration who are publicly baking americans by the dozens and publicly baking americans to vote for harris and not for him. so not just on the facts but if your business decision is economic performance broadly, that breaks for harris and if your business decision is the deficit, that breaks for harrison if your business decision is inflation, that breaks for harris. if your business decision is on whether the candidate is bipartisan seeming and can appeal across both parties that is clearly harris. but maybe your business decision is more petty or at

least more personal. maybe you are making a business decision based on sociology and which presidential candidate seems to have better relationships or more solid mutually respectful relationships with actual people in business right now. and that is of course a little woolly or and less of a data- driven thing but here for your consideration is a new york times major feature today and a feature based on interviews with more than two dozen campaign officials, policy experts, donors, lobbyists and business leaders. this is all about how the harris campaign has carefully courted business leaders organizing a steady stream of meetings and calls in which corporate executives and donors offer thoughts on tax policy, financial regulation and other issues. and now, again, personally, your mileage may vary as to

whether or not you like that but people who are supposedly making a business decision about the election along these lines will presumably love it taking a carefully courting business leaders organizing a steady stream of meetings and calls with executives to hear thoughts about tax policy and regulation. if you want a president who is a mutually respectful or has an ongoing relationship or consulting a different relationship with the business community, you must love that right down to the spokesman for harris saying if she wins ms. harris would continue to listen to the business community as she pursues a bold capitalist vision for the economy and as president kamala harris will be open and pragmatic about how to deliver that vision for the american people. said the spokesman. again, this may or may not be your thing. but business people cite this thing all the time and the talk

about what is important to them about making their own business driven decision about how they will vote in which candidate they support. right? i mean, on the other side, here is trump a few days ago bizarrely posting online that he is very happy to have the endorsement of the ceo of j.p. morgan chase and very happy to have the endorsement of him. jamie diamond endorsed me. he made that up. he is not endorsed him. but trump went out and said he did. presumably hoping that nobody would notice that he just made it up? i mean, if you are making your business decision on the election based on the perceived relationships between the candidate, healthy consultation between the candidate and business leaders, it's not just a theoretical thing. you do have stuff to go on. and a track record like trump's

big meeting with ceos that was organized for him by the business roundtable this summer and remember how that worked out. the ceos that trump meeting say the x president is meandering and doesn't know what he is talking about. former president trump failed to impress everybody in a room full of top ceos this week with multiple attendees telling cnbc. one ceo said trump doesn't know what he is talking about in several said that trump was remarkably meandering and couldn't keep a straight thought and was all over the map. but may be that isn't how you make your business decision about the selection. maybe you make this business decision in a pure simple straightforward sense that you just won a good business person in the job. you do hear this again for people say the way it is approaching the election and that would be great in a politician, somebody who has

shown real savvy and skill as a player in the business world who has that experience. it isn't just the business company he keeps, although it is that as well but it is also his own business good track record and good business judgment. you have stuff to go on here as well for making that kind of decision about the selection. one of the stories i think that has been most underplayed in this whole campaign because there has never been anything like it before is what is going on in trump's business life right now. the history in trump's business life is all very obvious and well-known in terms of his own record and just even in the

last few years and even in his years since he has been a public figure and a candidate for office. his foundation was shut down as a scam and university shutdown is a scam and his family business which he inherited was criminally convicted on tax fraud and owes hundreds of millions of dollars in civil fraud penalties with the company implicated as essentially a laundering entity in his own 34 felony convictions for which he will be sentenced in november. he could go to prison and the company cfo has done two recent stints at rikers because of his criminal behavior and that is all the recent history of trump in business. that is before this remarkable campaign season he is having right now in business. trump as a businessman is happening before us selling the commemorative silver coins with a cross between him and the chucky doll on the face of them and he is selling his creepy gold sneakers and digital trading cards. he is selling his bibles. he is selling his watches including the hundred thousand dollar watches that nobody has ever seen but he does promise they don't get one if you send

him the money some day. imagine if kamala harris did anything like this in her presidential campaign. hello, organized crime leader. would you like to pay me a million-dollar bribe while i am here running and on the precipice of becoming president? if you want to bribe me, by 10 of these watches. i will never send them to you but i will keep you -- your million dollars and pay you back when i am president. imagine if kamala harris was doing this. anyway. if you are making a business decision and selection and it is because you like the idea of somebody savvy and connected in business being there in the oval office, let me ask you this about your business decision about the selection. are you as a business minded person, are you positively inclined toward the very latest adventure he has launched literally weeks before the election? do you think this is an impressive move in business?

headline, trump teams up with pick up artist for new crypto scheme. his business partners and his new cryptocurrency scheme are number one the founder of date hotter girls llc and number 2 and ex-con previously involved in a scam: cleanse product advertised on facebook whose owner is known prison. the business partner for trump number two and i am sorry to call them that with the whole: cleanse thing. nevermind. he calls himself the dirt bag of the internet and here we are back to the: cleanse calling himself the dirt bag of the internet starring on podcasts like from broke to millionaire in 14 days. these are his business partners in his new crypto venture and in terms of their most recent ventures before teaming up with trump's new business partners founded recently and only

fanscompetitor in puerto rico that reportedly crashed on launch day and lost subscriber information and has already gone out of business. they also founded another crypto company before this new one with the donald trump called doe finance and you may call it that but the one thing it is famous for is losing millions of dollars of its users money because the computer code that was used by the dough finance guys had a gigantic flaw in it that let thieves walk away with the money that people had invested in dough finance. they left the door open. and the money was taken because the code allowed thieves to do that. according to the industry publication coin desk, that same code from dough finance appears to be remarkably similar to the code the trump crypto company will use for its

new venture, which he has just announced weeks before the election. it sounds like real savvy business stuff, right? real high-end stuff. trump has put both of his adult sons don junior and eric, the blonde one on the payroll as employees and he is put on the payroll his teenaged son baron. he's not only a job but a title at the company. barron trump is listed as the company's visionary and he is 18. that sounds like a really high- end prestigious business, right? that sounds like a good businessman, not at all a rekeyed tank shady making it up conmen business. the new york times reports that trump and his crypto business partners, their plan for this

high-end impressive new business they are building, their plan ultimately is to use this crypto venture they are finding to restructure the national debt of the united states. and that is the plan. i mean, surely anybody making a business decision about the selection will choose this kind of a big brain business thinking with the date hotter girls guy in the ex-convict and the national debt all taken care of because it will have the visionary of restructuring well and what was it that the governor of georgia said? he said you may not like donald trump personally but you will like's policies. it is a business decision. you are making a business decision.

but maybe that isn't the kind of business decision you are making. maybe you are not moved one way or another by trumps of personal business acumen and savvy and maybe you as a business person yourself want to be left alone to run your business and you want a leader of the u.s. government who will leave business alone and not mess with you or mess with the private sector. is that the basis from which you make that business decision in the selection? because, if so, have you met trump's running mate? >> unless you are willing to make these people feel this there is no serious way to fight back against it. google, apple, delta, they won't stop beating up on georgia for passing commonsense voter integrity measures because we complain about it or because the congressional committee man sends a strongly worded letter to their ceo but the only way to push back against this stuff in a real way is to make these companies feel that and there are a lot of ideas on how to do this but why did is to basically end the preferential tax treatment we give to google. >> and to use the government, to use the tax system to make

these companies feel economic pain so we can force them to do what we want for political reasons. >> we have to be willing to actually fight these companies with fire. we have to change that incentive and make these companies feel a little bit of pain for aligning with their enemies in the culture war. >> is your business decision about the selection about wanting to be left alone by the government? leave the private sector alone and leave business alone? is it based on a preference for small government? modest government that doesn't try to do too much? is that how you make your business decision about this election? >> i think the thing we have to take away from the last 10 years is we really need to be ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power. >> are you a small government person?

modest government person and leave the private sector alone person? if your business decision about this next election is about business being left alone and a small government, you don't have the hardest decision in the world to make here. there have been a lot of headlines recently about trump threatening to take media companies off the air and to use the government to punish abc, cbs, msnbc, nbc. use the government to punish media companies with airing an interview with kamala harris are airing criticism of trump or moderating a debate that trump lost against harris. trump recently said about the new york times, wait until you see what i am going to do with them threatening that if he is president and what he said would be three or four or five days since he has been president, he would do something to the new york times and he called it disgusting. maybe nobody cares about the media or news organizations as companies. if you make a business decision about this presidential election, do you think a president who says he will

destroy media companies for criticizing him, do you think he will only do that to those kind of companies? this summer he threatened to personally jail the head of facebook. he threatened to criminally prosecute google because he doesn't like the search results that google produces about him and when an online acquaintance of jd vance recently published some of his personal correspondence with vance in which he criticized his record as president, trump's eldest son, don junior the cochair of the trump transition team, he immediately called for the government to take punitive action against that man's employer, which happened to be deloitte. they had nothing at all to do with this employee making a personal decision on his own time to publish his personal private correspondence with jd vance. but the trump family said the power of the united states

government should now be trained against that company to punish them for having an employee who put out information that is critical of trump. if you are making a business decision about the selection, is that the business environment you are looking forward to on purely business terms? i guess i am really looking forward to talking about this tonight and somebody i am looking forward to talking to and i invite him in a moment but i give you one less thing here. in the current issue of vanity fair the reporter james polk is a profile of trump's former campaign manager steve bannon who you know is more influential than ever in trump world and by extension in the trump campaign even as he awaits the end of his federal prison sentence but he writes right now that if you have enjoyed what steve bannon has brought to trump politics so

far all of the destroy the administrative state stuff and we need a multipolar white world led by russia and take it as a badge of honor if you are called that and if you enjoyed that then you will love what his priority is right now for trump getting into the white house for a second term. the new plan and the new big idea we are getting from steve bannon and the whole wing of the trump movement which includes jd vance got a big no idea we are getting for the trump second term is the abandonment of the dollar. he wants to end the american currency. he is working on the end of the dollar empire. that would be quite a business decision. who in the business world is making a business decision about this next election thinks that the smart business minded

way ahead is to drop the dollar as the currency? as the world's default trading currency? doesn't that sound like an idea to you? right? the idea of making a business decision about the selection is honestly kind of a dumb one and we aren't shareholders or running a company and we are citizens. this is a country. but for people, and there are a lot of them, who say they are making a business decision about this election, what are they thinking? or is this all just stuff they don't know? a very special guest joins us next. stay with us. with us to make clothes softer, fresher, and better. downy. breathe life into your laundry.

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you may know the billionaire businessman and investor marc cuban from the long-running iconic television show to shark tank where he invests in people's businesses and you know how messy owner of the mavericks basketball team and marc cuban is a self-made billionaire in a larger than life american character who epitomizes what we like to think of when we think of achieving the american dream through business acumen. and so in 2015 when fellow very famous businessman wrote down his escalator into a presidential bid, mr. cuban initially said he was very excited having a non-politician and a businessman in the race was heavily the best thing to happen to politics in a long long time and he said he had 10

to 15 conversations with trump as a candidate during which he tried to give trump advice or talk about policy and he even said at one point he would consider being his vice president and thank goodness he didn't given how that worked out the guy who did get the job. but then mr. cuban fairly quickly realized that trump was very much not the best thing to happen to politics and it has been a very long time since he said anything nice about trump and his political prospects. but marc cuban is a business guy. and no fan of politicians in general. that is why it is a big deal now that marc cuban has so loudly and enthusiastically endorsed kamala harris for president and said it isn't just because he thinks donald trump would be a disaster in a second term but because he thinks that harris would be a really good president and in particular really good president for the american economy. joining us now for the interview is investor and entrepreneur marc cuban and cofounder of the public benefit corporation cost plus drugs.

it is nice to meet you and thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me and call me marc. i don't like the mr. stuff. >> okay and you can call me rachel. let me ask about my overall premise. i am not a business person and i don't have a brain for business stuff and i would be the first to admit it. i have had a lot of conversations with people who say they make business based decisions about politics. i feel like that has been driving me more crazy this year than it has in previous years and if i said anything that i got the wrong way around? >> you didn't nail it. you took it line item by line item and laid it all out. there is really no good reason to vote for donald trump as the business candidate. in doing business, whether you are a small or large company, you want stability or not wake up one morning as the ceo of john deere and find all of a sudden you 200% tariff or be carrier air and find out that he is threatening you if you

move employees. those of the types of decisions that take years to plan and put together. so stability is the number one rule for a big business and for a smaller business, you want the opportunity. >> in terms of the targeting that he is talking about for a second term, and what we saw in his first term when he picked that individual businesses were sometimes individual business leaders that he wanted to use the government to punish when he did go after amazon and jeff bezos and when after saying he wanted to go after marc zuckerberg but he did other things that were targeting businesses that were perceived to be a political interest, i would have thought it would have made him radioactive in the business world because business people are too smart to think they could be on the right side of those calculations or they won't ever be the one in the crosshairs and once you have somebody who uses the government that way and with his friends. >> you don't hear a lot of ceos other than elon musk coming out

in supporting him for that reason. you don't hear them condemning him because they are worried about his retribution or vengeance. literally, there has been nobody other than i know then elon musk who has come out to support him. >> you recently said in an interview that some business leaders who are supporting trump with the caveat of what you described in terms of high level leaders which not too many are doing it how you said that some leaders supporting him are doing it because they think they can manipulate him and can you explain what you mean? >> it is transactional and for the right amount you can guide policy and we saw that with crypto. there is different type of crypto and i am a huge fan and i support that but a lot of large-scale bitcoin owners with many significant donations in

an effort to manipulate his perception of crypto to their benefit. i think that is the perfect example of doing that and be manipulated. >> what you make of his crypto venture? i saw headlines about it when he first announced it and the rollout was ridiculous but the more i looked into it and here is one of my most favorite details. he met these guys including the ex-con in the pickup artist guy through a real estate billionaire guy he knows. that guys crypto savvy was such that he called a mean coin a mimi calling and he was doing that to set up his company. >> it is all crazy. the only reason you saw commemorative coins and snow -- sell sneakers and put together

this project is because you need the money because you have to and that is the insanity of it all and people are looking at him as a good business person and he literally can't run his own businesses. you don't hear stories about his overwhelming success and outside of real estate and even you don't see how people really support him as a business person. >> marc cuban, i do really appreciate your doing this and i know your time is really valuable. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me on. >> we will be right back. stay with us. with us

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so there are no mentions of assault rifles in the bible. i checked. but there is a ministry in pennsylvania that calls itself the rod of iron ministries. in this case the rod is they say a biblical euphemism specifically for not just guns but ar 15 assault rifles in this for example is a wedding ceremony recently performed by the rod of iron ministries and have a golden ar 15 propped up on the altar because they think of it as a religious item. the gospel of this ministry is that assault rifles are divine instruments of god used to carry out his will and they say the rod of iron mentioned in

the book of revelation is the ar 15 so they need them all the time especially for religious purposes. for the past few years the rod of iron ministries has held a get together called freedom festival in the recent one was this weekend. you would be interested to know that it doubled as a a sickly a political rally for a certain republican presidential candidate. with a very surprised special guest turning up alongside and that story is next. is next air ? swim with elephants? wait, can we afford a safari? great question. like everything, it takes a little planning. or, put the money towards a down-payment... ...on a ranch ...in montana ...with horses let's take a look at those scenarios. j.p. morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools, like wealth plan to keep you on track. when you're planning for it all... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management.

welcome to the rod of iron. god bless you may god save america using president trump and every single one of you. god bless you. maga 2024. let's go, baby. >> that is the leader of the rod of iron ministries holding his golden ar 15 and wearing, yes, your eyes do not deceive you, a crown made of bullets and also in attendance at the

event this weekend in pennsylvania was naturally michael flynn the first national security advisor removed from the post and prosecuted after lying to the fbi about his secret contacts with the russian government and he spoke to this ministries event this weekend for over an hour and he also took some questions from the audience or perhaps in this case we should describe it as a proposal. >> is there any chance that should the election go with a positive result that you would sit at the head of the military tribunal to not only drain the swamp but in prison the swamp and on a few occasions execute the swamp? >> big cheers from the crowd there and to recap, would you go back into the military if trump wins would you go back into the military so in uniform you could sit at the head of

the military tribunal to drain the swamp and in prison the swamp and maybe execute the swamp? in the big chair for the executions and that is a hot one. what say you, general flynn? >> your sentiment is like a lot of people that i speak to around this country. but when people start thinking like that, all of us folks and when you hear other people talking about that because you will hear a lot of people this weekend and i always say that i speak like and never will be invited back. okay? so you will hear all kinds of stuff and people need to feel that way and all good and fine. not me. i am about winning. we have to win in these people are already up to no good. so we have to win and we went first and then bar the door. believe me.

the gates of my hell will be unleashed. >> my gates of will be unleashed. he was just ask if you would get back into uniform under trump so he could lead military tribunals to start executing americans. he said once we are back in there, by the door. general mike flynn wasn't the only former trump official at the festival this weekend in pennsylvania and he also gave a slot to the sky to speak. >> i have said 100 times that trump goes back, i come back. >> yes. that guys name is tom holman

and he was acting director of the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement better known as i.c.e. is largely considered the architect of trump's policy to tear little kids away from their moms and dads at the border. when he says if trump comes back, i come back and it isn't just wishful thinking on his part and trump said publicly that if he is elected he will bring him back on board to effectively oversee his immigration policy and the centerpiece of which is of course ordering the united states military to build camps capable of holding tens of millions of people in using the military to go into american homes and communities and extract tens of millions of people to put in those camps and deport them. one of if not the defining policy position of the campaign this time around is camps to hold millions of people and then deporting millions of people from this country which was in fact that he bragged about this weekend at the rod of iron ministries bullet crown freedom festival. >> i have said it 100 times.

if trump comes back, i come back. and i will begin the biggest deportation operation this country has ever seen. >> if you are wondering how the trump administration would go about this and how they would actually carry out this biggest deportation operation the country is ever seen, whether this is a real policy they will approach carefully and soberly, consider for a moment that the guy who trump said would be in charge of the camps and in charge of the deportations was a headliner at the assault rifles are god's will rally this week and where their leader was wearing a crown of bullets and mike flynn was

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enjoyed at your table. (♪♪) one last thing before we go, by popular demand my new documentary from russia with love which is about the first impeachment is going to air this weekend on msnbc. from russia with lev this sunday at 9 p.m. eastern on msnbc. set your dvr right now. that does it for us tonight, now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. the deputy campaign manager for harris and walz with only 22 days ago. here in the studio tonight, because bob woodward is going to join me to talk about his new book "war". and rachel, i'd like to apologize for this one. because as you can see, there is an awful