says he could not ignore. but prosecutors originally said eric and lyle killed for money, and their mother's brother, milton anderson, says they deserve to remain behind bars, writing they planned to murder their parents only after they learned their dad was taking them out of the will. their motive was pure greed. while the district attorney's office hasn't said exactly when they'll make a decision, they are set to formally respond to the brother's putigds for release next month. back to you. >> laura jarrett, thanks. and that does it for us today. we will see you back here tomorrow same time, same place. don't forget you can catch our show online, around the clock on youtube and other platforms. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart, and we

begin with the state of the white house with only 20 days before election day, we have brand new polling this morning show aing a close race between former president trump and vice president harris. a new poll shows the vice president up for 5 points, within the margin of error. and a marquette university poll shows them tied. this comes after he went after a moderator there for questioning trump's plans to impose tariffs on foreign goods. >> i know how committed you are to this, and it must be hard for you to spend 25 years talking about tariffs as be negative and then have somebody explain to you you're totally wrong. it will have negative -- i'll go a step further. >> 14 million jobs is a lot of jobs to rely on -- >> they're all coming back. >> meantime vice president

harris will make a campaign stop in battleground pennsylvania before traveling onto wisconsin. she'll also sit down in her first interview with fox news that is set to air tonight. it comes one day after the vice president set down with radio host charlamagne tha god for an interview in which she talked about the danger of another trump term. >> it's two very different visions for our nation, one mind talking about progress and investing in the american people, investing in their ambitions, dealing with their challenges. and the other, donald trump, is about taking us backward. >> i think it's about fascism. why can't we just say this? >> yes, we can say that. >> with us now nbc news correspondent garret haake who covers the trump campaign, and nbc news white house correspondent monica alba in washington, crossing pennsylvania. garret, donald trump appeared before the economic club of chicago yesterday, he taped a town hall with fox news and

doing another town hall tonight with univision. has there been any focus on trump's messaging or lack of messaging with these town halls? >> yeah, jose, leading into these last couple of days trump has been in a cocoon. he's essentially been talking to conservative media, doing rallies and town halls that are hosted by trump surrogates, essentially, who try to keep him on the campaign messaging and talking points. some of these events that we're seeing now are pushing him a little bit farther outside of his comfort zone and they're showing perhaps why it is outside of his comfort zone. he tends to speak in a way that, you know, makes a lot of sense to the people who follow him very closely but not to the general electorate. and he has not been substantively engaging on some of these key issues including in several questions that were presented to him by this bloomberg news moderator yesterday really trying to drill down on him on economic issues like for example should the justice department break up google or alphabet. tell me where do you hear a

substantive response to that question. listen. >> should google be broken up? >> i just haven't gotten over something the justice department did yesterday where virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes, and the justice department sued them that they should be allowed to put those bad votes and illegal votes back in and let the people vote. >> jose, this is kind of how trump approaches interviews and questions like this. he's going to seize on the element of your question that he wants to answer, not necessarily the question itself. but it speaks to this idea of if he's still doing events like this, still talking to crowds like this, vanning sly small percentages of the electorate, are these helping or hurt something and we're going to find out in 20 days. >> garret, the criticism that candidates for office, politicians are not giving

substantial answers to questions is i think something that we see across the board but in this case far different. monica, what will the vice president be focusing on when she speaks in pennsylvania today? >> well, it's telling, jose, to really let you know about where we are here in critical bucks county, pennsylvania. and the vice president is going to be holding an event today that's different from a large scale rally. she's going to be here with a couple hundred people with a very, very tailored message, and that is to continue her outreach specifically to some republican-leaning voters and to some of those independents that could be critical on the margins of a race in a commonwealth like this one. so she's specifically coming here to an area known as washington crossing, where george washington famously crossed the delaware river during the revolutionary war, to try to convey this message of country over party. now, that's something that she started to lay out a couple of weeks ago in a very stark manner

with former republican congresswoman liz cheney, who endorsed her. and today she's going to be appearing with some republicans and people who have left the republican party and who collectively have all spoken out against donald trump. and that is the exact kind of messaging that she's going to try to speak to today. she's going to continue on what we've heard over the last couple of days of why she views, in her opinion, donald trump as somebody who is in her words unhinged, unstable, and really question his fitness for office. and there is a theme to that today because after she wraps up this event here, she is going to be sitting down with fox news, as you mentioned again, trying to really put into action this media strategy where she is trying to go and sit down with some more unconventional audiences, perhaps than you would expect a democrat to be doing in a the final weeks of an election. and that is by design according to campaign aides who say they want her to be pretty much everywhere, speaking to everyone

and trying to really push this in the final days. so today there's a very clear theme and approach, and she's going to continue that to see if she can peel off some of these people who they've used actually in campaign ads who voted for donald trump maybe in 2016 and 2020 but who are saying this time around they won't be doing that. jose? >> monica, you have new reporting when we can see former first lady michelle obama on the campaign trail? >> yeah, this is a time where really high profile surerates good out on the trail for vice president harris. you saw former president obama last week. he is really going to be stumping in several states. you saw former president bill clinton in georgia. he's going to have a bus tour in north carolina, and we're told that's going to continue. there had been an open question about the role michelle obama will play in these final days because she's someone who's never run for elected office, famously says she doesn't like politics, but she enjoys some of the party's highest favorability ratings, and she's essentially

the most popular democratic surrogate that you can have, and she hasn't been on the campaign trail so far. and it was her own message at the democratic national convention of do something and trying to really implore and urge democrats not to get complacent that led some people to think she'd be doing a bit more travel or out there. instead she's been working behind the scenes on the aspect of voter turnout and just a week before the election for the when we all vote initiative, which is technically nonpartisan, to again, try to drive up some of that voting especially for first time voters. and then we're told she will have some events specifically for the harris campaign in that closing stretch, but nothing has been finalized yet. jose? >> garret haake and monica alba, thank you both so very much. , you know, in the battleground state of georgia over 300,000 voters shattered early voter turnout records yesterday, more than doubling the numbers in 2020.

meanwhile overnight a georgia judge blocked an order for ballots to be hand counted at the close of voting on election day. joining us now a senior advisor to the harris campaign, a former mayor of atlanta, keisha lance bottoms. always a pleasure to see you. these first day early voting numbers are just huge. what do you make of them? >> it's very exciting. it is the momentum that we want and we need going into early voting, and i am glad to see that people are turning out, but i also want to remind people in georgia we've seen high numbers before on our side only to be overtaken on election day, so it's important that we keep these numbers high, but i'm just reminded of the words of our congressman john lewis, who said our vote is the most powerful weapon that we have. and people recognize what's at stake in this country and the role that georgia will play this election cycle.

>> and that judge in georgia blocked yesterday an order that would have required election officials to hand count ballots on election day. what exactly is that? and what's your reaction to it? >> well, you have to remember back in 2020 we had nearly 5 million people to vote in the state of georgia. record turnout then. and of course we see that those numbers are likely to be higher. so the thought that election workers would have to hand count ballots is pretty absurd, but that's what we've been getting from the state election board that's gone rogue. and what's interesting, jose, is that even in georgia we've had our republican governors, secretary of state, and attorney general, and the chair of the state election board say that this board has gone too far. so we've had the courts to step in. and also judge macbernie who's made some decisions related to this election, i'd like to remind people he was appointed

by republican governor in the state nathan dill, so once again i'm very proud to see that in georgia people are stepping up and trying to do the right thing as it relates to us having a free and fair election. and it's unfortunate that the courts have had to step in, but this is last minute interference, and it's all about donald trump trying to cede seeds of doubt into this election cycle. >> and keisha, speaking of trump, he was on the campaign trail in georgia yesterday. take a listen to a little bit of what he had to say there. >> and i'll tell you what, any african american or hispanic -- and you know how well i'm doing there -- that votes for kamala, you got to have your head examined because they -- they are really screwing you. they are really screwing you. right? >> what's your reaction to that? >> well, that's pretty rich from a man who took out a full page

ad to call for the death penalty against five innocent young, black men. donald trump is not the one to lecture people of color about how we vote, and it's going to be important for us to continue to remind people exactly what donald trump has not done for people of color in this country. that's the reason we've seen the vice president rollout her policies. we saw it this week, speaking directly to african american men. and the reality is that we aren't a monolith. people are getting their information in various ways, so it's important we keep reminding people what's at stake during this election cycle. just yesterday i did a press conference with senators warnock and ossoff and the family of amber therman, a young mother who died because of complications of an abortion, because care was delayed for 20 years, leaving a very young son. and just her family is devastated. these are the things that are at

stake for us in this election cycle. >> keisha, do you buy into this narrative that we see over and over again that black and latino men are turning away from harris in record numbers? >>ia you know what, i've seen it and i have young people in my household. my youngest son, 14, just said to me the other day he's getting his youtube channels flooded with ads from donald trump. he said, and mama, you can't even skip the ads. and he said they're all terrible things about kamala harris. so what i see is people have been getting a lot of misinformation, disinformation. but also we have to make sure we are making our case. we can't take for granted any one group of people. reminding people what kamala harris has done for people of color in this country, what she has said she will do when elected, we can't make assumptions about how people will vote. so i believe that people have

options this election cycle, and we have to go out and we have to earn those votes and not make assumptions that people are going to be with us because they look a certain way. >> keisha lance bottoms, thank you so much. it's great seeing you. appreciate it. still ahead, a feisty debate in one of the most closely watched races this election season. we'll talk to texas congressman colin allred as he tries to unseat senator ted cruz in a tight race. plus migrant families separated under the trump administration, sharing their gut wrenching stories during a harris campaign event in florida. we'll talk to a father separated from his son for 45 days. and overseas, the biden administration's new warning to israel. we're back in 90 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. n.

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15 past the hour. new overnight, for the first time in a week israel carried out air strikes in lebanon's capital. meanwhile, the white house says if the humanitarian situation in gaza does not improve within the next 30 days, the u.s. may restrict military assistance to israel, according to two u.s. officials and a defense official. and we're getting a new view of the reality inside gaza. a new nbc documentary highlights the last functioning maternity

ward in southern gaza and follows a pregnant mother bringing a new life into a war zone. here's a portion of that story. >> joining us now from tel aviv is nbc's erin mclaughlin. erin, what more can you tell us about the situation on the ground in gaza? >> reporter: well, jose, we're just hearing from cogat, which

is a division within the israeli military responsible for humanitarian aid to gaza in a tweet on "x" posting that they did deliver aid to northern gaza, which is hard hit today. they're writing 50 trucks carrying humanitarian aid including food, water, medical supplies, and shelter equipment provided by jordan were transferred today to northern gaza through the allan b. bridge crossing and west crossing as part of our commitment to deliver humanitarian aid. we are working to confirm this information. it would be the first aid to arrive in northern gaza where there is an israeli military operation under way in some two weeks. earlier i was speaking to andrew miller, the former deputy assistant secretary of state for israeli and palestinian affairs. he left that post back in june. i asked him about the situation in gaza, and he called the

humanitarian situation, quote, a catastrophe. take a listen. >> the humanitarian situation in gaza is catastrophe. at the least 90% of the population, which is 2.3 million, is internally displaced. that alone is going to create a humanitarian problem because of the level of dislocation and the absence of appropriate facilities to care for people. when you add onto that the fact that assistance is not coming in reliably, consistently, that's just exacerbating the humanitarian conditions. it really is one of the worst humanitarian situations that, you know, we've seen in the 21st century. >> reporter: and i asked him why the biden administration has been unable to ensure a constant flow of humanitarian aid to all parts of gaza, and he pointed to two reasons.

he said, first, a lack of consistent consequences for israel. and he's also said that the biden administration would often get bogged down in the minutia and lose sight of the big overall humanitarian aid picture. jose? >> erin mclaughlin in tel aviv. up next breaking news, new filing of january 6th. and we'll go to arizona where they're on a high stakes mission to bring voters who skipped 2020 back to the polls this year. and fireworks at the one and only debate in a race that could shift the balance of power in the senate. we'll talk to congressman colin allred who's joining us on set with ted cruz. >> you can't be for the mob on january 6th and for the officers. you can't. it's not funny.

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22 past the hour. now to breaking news from washington, where special counsel jack smith has responded to a claim by donald trump's team he bears no factual or legal responsibility for the events of january 6th. nbc legal analyst danny suvoleose is with us. danny, good morning. what's in this new filing? >> essentially this is just the government's response to donald

trump's team's motion to dismiss the case. and one of the key central arguments is based on a supreme court case called fisher they asked the question is this a general obstruction. so any way you obstruct a congressional proceeding is that enough? or does the language instead mean you have to effect a document or a thing? and i'm paraphrasing here. and essentially is it generally obstructing or is it interfering with a document or a thing? and the government here responds that this supreme court decision didn't complete eviscerate this federal criminal statute. it didn't completely do away with the pleading requirements. and most importantly, trump, they say, ignores the fact he did in a sense interfere with documents or things. most notably the slates of fake electors and the vote it.

. there are some documents and things involved. so the government argues the attempts to get the case tossed is without merit. >> so what's the next step here, danny? >> the next step is the judge has to decide this motion. and i have to setup the atmosphere here. this judge is deciding a case or issues in a case that no judge has ever really had to deal with because of the supreme court's immunity decision, which gave a general set of principles, but it really left the lower court wide open as to how it's going to have evidentiary hearings, how it's going to decide these motions. make no mistake about it, the supreme court decisions of the last couple of years are major factors in the trump team's defense's effort to get this case tossed. and that's what they're doing right now. they are making that motion based on changes in the law and arguing that trump should -- trump's case should be dismissed in its entirety. the government says since we issued -- since we got our

superseding indictment, we've pleaded around the issues on the supreme court on the immunity case, and trump is still on the hook. >> danny cevallos, thank you very much. and turning now to a rural county in the battleground state of arizona where early voting is also underway, our own vaughn hilliard spoke with several voters there about what's driving them to the ballot box earlier than ever before. vaughn hilliard is with us this morning. vaughn, great seeing you. you spoke to several trump supporters. what did they have to say? >> reporter: right, jose. we're looking at the early ballot returns here in arizona, and one week into early voting we have seen republican voters turn their ballots back in by mail or come to early ballot locations by a nearly 2 to 1 margin by democrats. it was flipped that in 2020 where democrats one weekend were outpacing republicans 2 to 1. a large part of that has to do with donald trump this go around urging folks to vote by mail or early voting.

if you're looking at arizona whichever way maricopa went, the state went. but in 2020 donald trump lost maricopa county but effectively won the state because he was able to juice places like here in 2020 which he won by 75% of the vote. a record number of republicans turning out. we went to a couple of early voting locations, and sea lengthy lines. during the lunch hour 30 people waiting in line. we should note we did not find a single person who told us audibly they would vote for kamala harris. these are trump supporters getting out to vote early. take a listen to some of our conversations. >> well, the difference is going to be that everybody's coming out early. and everybody that we talked to has made a special effort this year to vote. and it's -- you can see it here in the parking lot. you know, this library usually got five cars in it.

a ton of cars in it now. >> reporter: so you voted early for the first time. >> for the first time. >> reporter: why did you vote early this year? >> honestly, because donald trump told me to. he keeps saying it and i've been thinking about it, so here i am. >> reporter: we met one man who did not vote in 2020 but he said he was horrified by the state of the country so he's voting here in 2024. we met three other voters one who moved from california, one who moved from oregon, blue states who said they moved here and were eager to vote in a state -- it's those sense of voters that not only republicans are watching come to the polls but also democrats have a close eye understanding they really need to win the maricopa county area to understand they need to reduce any juicing of turnout in places in arizona, jose.

>> vaughn hillyard, thank you so very much. now to texas which has become a battleground in the race to control the united states senate. democrat candidate colin allred is hoping to flip the seat from ted cruz. recent polls show cruz with a slight lead over allred. last night the two candidates met for their first and only debate, and there were no shortage of intense moments between the two candidates. >> when the lights went out in the energy capital of the world, he went to cancun. on january 6th when a mob was storming the capitol, he was hiding in a supply closet. and when the toughest border security bill in a generation came up to the united states senate, he took it down. >> colin allred is kamala harris. their records are the same. i've served with both of them. they voted in favor of open borders over and over and over again, and now they are desperately trying to hide that from the voters. >> congressman colin allred joins us now from dallas. we should note we reached out to

senator cruz's office if he was available today. not received a response as of right now. i thank you for being with us. this is your first and only debate with senator cruz. what were your main take-aways? >> well, thanks for having me on, jose. listen, i think lying ted was back. i don't know what else to say. he's been trying to change his image now in an election year after 12 years of being one of the most extreme senators really in the history of the senate, but we're not letting him get away with that because texas is singularly responsible for the abortion ban we're dealing with in the state, that he wants to cut medicare and social security, and i'm glad that i had a chance last night to make sure texans saw that and folks across the country saw it. >> and congressman, there were a lot of questions and comments about the humanitarian crisis and the southern border. you were very clear on your

criticism of senator cruz for not supporting that bipartisan border bill that trump killed, let's be clear on that. how would you have voted on that bill if you were in the senate? >> yeah, well, i immediately came outlet and put out a statement saying we had to do this, this was the bill we had to take up. listen, i wanted us to act sooner even, but folks should no know that no state could have benefitted more from that bill than texas. and a 1,000 border patrol agents would have been much needed in texas, and more immigration judges, more technology to stop fentanyl. these are things texas needs. and when ted cruz when he was told to jump asked how high and said we don't need a border bill. we have a long tradition in texas of independent leaders who look out for texas first. and that's what we're going to get back to when we beat ted cruz here. so i hope folks will go to colin

allred.com to help us do that. >> just to be clear, you would have voted yes on that border bill had you been in the senate? >> yes. >> that bill as you say includes tons of money for more border patrol agents, allocations and orders to build the wall, and also dramatically changed how asylum is carried out in our country. what do you think are the immediate needs on immigration and migration and the humanitarian crisis at the border? what are your immediate priorities there? >> i think we have to have short and medium long-term plans for this. in the short-term we need more personnel, more technology. we need to have the policy changes to address the asylum backlog we're experiencing. as you know, jose, most of the folks who are seeking asylum now are going to be denied. about 90%, a little less are going to be denied. but it's going to take five,

seven, eight years for that to come in because our backlog is enormous. our border patrol is being stretched incredibly thin with a more complex assignment dealing with more complexity from the cartels, from mexico and their fentanyl trafficking. that's all important. in the medium term we have to have reform of our immigration system because it's broken and it contributes to what we see on our southern border. in the longer term we have to work to stabilize those conies driving much of this migration whether that be venezuela or haiti or some of the tribal countries. we know we can do this and something wave done in the past around the world, institution building, trying to make sure we address some of the biggest drivers. we can't eliminate all of them. that is how you have a serious conversation about border security, not just taking down important bills that will provide much needed resources. >> yeah, and i'm so glad that you mention this because there's oftentimes talk about push factors and people don't mention

venezuela, people don't mention cuba, 64 years of dictatorship. almost 10% have been forced to leave the island just in the last couple of years. this is important, and it is a broader conversation. i'm glad that you mention this. i also want to ask you, congressman, because polling shows a very close race between you and senator cruz, but texas hasn't voted for a democratic senator in nearly 40 years. it was lloyd benson in 1998. can you change that? >> we're going to change it. and we are. and listen, i'm a fourth generation texan. i was born and raised here in dallas by a single mom. my family is from brownsville where my father was a customs officer on the southern border. that's where i spent my childhood. i went to baylor as captain of the football team. and we are not who ted cruz says we are. we're certainly ready to turn the page from somebody who goes to cancun when we need him most, who never shows up when we have legislation that will help our

state, and does worse than that, takes down important legislation. make a plan to help folks vote in texas if you're in texas. support our efforts. when we beat ted cruz here in texas, it will be a win for the state of texas. >> congressman colin allred, thank you very much for being with us today. appreciate it. up next, donald trump speaks to women voters hoping to win them over in one key battleground state. we'll tell you what he's been saying. plus, how the harris campaign is painting a picture of what could happen again at the border if trump is re-elected. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. e diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. oh! right in the temporal lobe! beat it, punks! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ you'll find them in cities, towns and suburbs all across america. millions of americans who have medicare and medicaid, but may be missing benefits they could really use. extra

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38 past the hour. new comments this hour from former president trump who sat down with an audience of women voters on fox news. joining us now sarah matthews, former trump white house deputy press secretary, who resigned in the wake of the january 6th attack and has endorsed vice president harris. susan, republican strategist, and a republican strategist and senior advisor to president biden's 2020 campaign. at the start of this town hall, trump was asked about democratic georgia senator rafael warnock calling trump, quote, dangerous for black men and communities of color. here's how trump responded. >> i will say this, we just got the endorsement of border patrol all over -- i mean all over the country border patrol, virtually

every sheriff's department, every police department, the fraternal order of police, 400,000 police, the biggest in the country. we have every -- we have every single -- i don't think they have a policeman or a policewoman, single, and we have the safest border in the history of our country. now we have the most unsafe border in the history of our country. >> you saw there he didn't really directly address the question just talked a lot about the border and security and safety. what do you make of that? >> he is trying to fear monger his way into the white house again. but the town hall was supposed to speak to his positions around issues that women care about. there have been polls that have shown abortion access and reproductive health care is a top motivator for a lot of women in this country and particularly even some republican women. and so the reality is donald trump has nothing to stand on when it comes to issues for women, and he has to go to his

talking points on the border because this is a man who bragged about the supreme court justices he appointed that overturned roe v. wade. this is a man found liable for sexual assault. this is a man who literally has said women should be punished for decisions about their bodies. i don't know what is more unsafe for women -- a donald trump presidency and the laws that he actually does support. because the smoke and mirrors he is pitting communities against each other, that's also what he is doing, he is using the debate around latino communities and immigrant communities and pitting them against our country, which is not what our country was founded on when we know he is a danger to women. >> sarah, how do you see it? >> yeah, i think that alensia hit the nail on the head he's trying to fear monger because he doesn't have policies to run on. it's really rich hearing him

talk about the border and there was a kris, yet we know he's the one who killed the bipartisan border deal that would have given the border the most funding in decades. so i believe we need to be funding the border and doing everything we can to keep it secure, but donald trump clearly doesn't care about that because he cares more about playing politics and he thought this would be an asset and something he could run on if the border remained in crisis. we know the biden administration has done everything they can from an executive level, but it's on congress to do everything to ensure we're securing our border, but donald trump doesn't want that because he doesn't care about solutions. he only cares about what can gain him politically and benefit him politically. i think they know they have a women problem. that's why he's doing this town hall, and we'll see if it's helpful to him in a state like georgia that's going to be key for him electoralally, but it's going to be really hard for them to make up ground with women at the very tail end of this campaign because they've kind of

largely ignored women. they've been seeming to double down on their strategy of going after low propensity voters, particularly young white men and men of color as well. and so now in the homestretch they're trying to make a pitch to women and it might be too late. >> susan, how do you see these next 20 days of campaign going? >> well, i'm not sure this event was about pitching to women and looking to them as much as it was an in kind campaign contribution from fox news to give donald trump the background and the women around him who were hand-selected per trump voters and let them cut it into a ton of video clips for ads because he didn't like the headlines of the polling. they kept saying what a deficit trump has with women, 18%, 10%, 15%. and he wanted to try and change the conversation. donald trump is going to continue, in my opinion, not to fight to win the election in

going after women voters or swing voters but rather fighting to contest this election. he is trying to get his supporters riled up so if he loses, which i think it's quite possible that he will, he will have basically an army behind him to contest it. that's why he was going after changes in georgia to the law, which thankfully a judge overruled, but look for more of this. i wish he was being just a smart campaigner. i think it's much more dangerous than all of that. >> and sarah, trump was asked about his remark on sunday when he called democrats the enemy from within, suggesting democrats are just as dangerous as america's foreign adversaries. he doubled down saying, quote, it is the enemy from within, and their vore dangerous. they're marxist and communist and fascist and they're sick. what do you make of this kind of talk? >> it just shows you what kind

of president donald trump plans to be. he's not going to be a president for all americans. all he wants to do is divide us further, and that's what a second trump term would mean. whereas, you have kamala harris who's building what i would say is the largest and most diverse coalitions. when you have everyone from the aoc to the cheneys endorsing you, i think that speaks volumes. but donald trump is making clear that he views people who are on the other side politically from him as the enemy from within. and so we need to take that seriously and ask ourselves is that the type of leader that we want running our country, someone who will further divide us rather than unite us? and i think that a lot of americans who are on the fence right now, i know that it's crazy there are still people who are undecided, but for that very small fraction, i think those people need to ask themselves do you want a return to normalcy where the people that might vote differently than you, we don't view them as our enemies but just as our neighbors, our friends, and do we want to get

back to where we can actually debate policy rather than have this division in our country? and to move on from that division, i think it requires us turning the page on donald trump. >> yeah, i mean just the whole tone of things, and we just started with senator warnocks comments about the danger that donald trump would pose according to him. it's just like there is very little room for policy discussions, it seems. and it's just too bad. but sarah matthews, susan del percie, and alencia johnson. up next thousands of children separated from their parents at the border. and we spoke to a father who spoke at a harris campaign event. i came to the united states with my dad here. we didn't know we were going to suffer the pain that we did. suf.

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50 past the hour. just in the last hour in florida, the harris campaign held a press conference with migrant families separated under the trump administration. marissa parra joins us. what did we hear from the families? >> reporter: i will point out, it has been a busy political day. we have later tonight mr. trump is going to be part of a town

hall that's here. this morning, we saw this political event. it's for the harris-walz campaign. this is a heavily venezuelan population. it's geared toward the latino vote, specifically in the miami-dade county where we are. what we heard today, they brought out children from families who had been separated under the trump administration, including a young boy named billy who described his own experiences being separated from his family years ago when he was just 9 years old. take a listen. >> we didn't know that we were going to suffer the pain that we did. we thought we had a better future planned ahead of us coming to this country because we -- all we heard was good things about it. i was held in a place, a cold room 55 or 54 degrees. i had no bed, no nothing. after the three days, i was lied

to. i was told that my dad was going to court and i would get to see him the next day. after that day, i never saw him again for 40 days. >> reporter: two quick things. they were asked by people who were in the room, reporters, how even administration with harris would look different than the last four years. while harris was not here to answer, her team, while they sidestepped some of it, pointed out some republican efforts to block their larger vision for what immigration in this country would look like. they said that was an example of why people need to vote democrat up and down the ballot. two quick numbers. aclu estimated 5,500 parents and children were separated under trump. dhs says over 1,300 still waiting for reunification. joining us this morning, billy, who spoke at that family

separation event and his father charlie. charlie will use a pseudonym to protect his identity. charlie doesn't speak english. i will do translation today what he says in spanish. charlie, you and your son crossed the border in 2018. how was that journey? what was it that happened to you when you got here? [ speaking in non-english language ] >> translator: it was a very -- 22-day journey. we arrived to the border. we handed ourselves into immigration. we asked for help because we were seeking help fleeing our country. but at the time that we handed ourselves in, that was when the family was separated.

[ speaking in non-english language ] >> were you expecting that? how were those moments? >> translator: i did not expect that, no. no one did. the surprise for me was arrive and see hundreds of children in those detention centers screaming and crying. it was something that surprised me. because i thought they weren't going to take my child when i saw that, but they did. it was so difficult that i don't wish that upon anybody else. >> billy, how was it for you? i know those 45 days seemed like an eternity. >> it was horrible. it was a terrible experience i think no 9-year-old should go through. something that has still haunts me to this day. very sad. i thought i would never see my parents again. it was something that i couldn't digest as a 9-year-old,

something traumatic. >> it stays with you. >> it does to this day. [ speaking in non-english language ] >> when you left guatemala searching for your american dream, were you aware that in the united states there was a policy that very well could separate you from your children? you did not know that? nothing? what did you think was going to happen? >> translator: i thought that when -- that i could bring all the evidence and video from my country that immigration was going to be the opportunity without separating my child from me. but it was really surprising when it was the contrary. i remember they made me bathe my son and i was happy because supposedly they were going to leave me free with him.

but, no, that day an hour into having bathed him, they took him from me. i held on to him as strong as i could, but they literally ripped him from my arms. they put him in a detention center where there were so many other children. they changed me and they took me to a prison. the truth is, it's something that until this day has marked me and very difficult. [ speaking in non-english language ] >> what would you tell president trump if you could speak to him face to face? >> translator: i would tell him, don't be so cruel with the children, with the parents that come protecting our children. we come fleeing persecution. we bring evidence and everything. please try not to treat us the

way that we were treated. we in this detention center, how they would scream at us. our president trump is going to send you back, and you will not see your child ever again. it was something that the truth be told, it was racism that i sensed, that i saw against us. it's something that i can't -- no one can tell me. i lived it in myself. i would tell him, donald trump, don't you have children? why? why do you treat us so inhumane? why these policies so difficult, tough against our latino, our central american that come here fighting to protect our children? [ speaking in non-english language ] >> thank you both so very much for being with us. i know you continue your dreams

of being in the construction industry. charlie and billy, thank you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news next.

right now on "andrea mitchell reports," former president trump on fox, doubling down on his threatening comments about his political opponents.