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and in a democracy the president of the united states, in the united states of america, should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for doing it. and this is what is at stake. >> vice president kamala harris heads into the lion's den, hitting back hard on trump's hit larian enemy from within remarks. also tonight, trump tries to re-write his record on women and latinos. as harris spotlights victims of trump's family separations. plus, fight for control of the u.s. senate is getting a lot more interesting. last night, former nfl player, colin allred sacked ted cruz so hard during their debate in texas, cruz might have woke up this morning in cancun. a hail mary just might be happening in nebraska. and we begin tonight with
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less than three weeks left on the campaign trail. and two campaigns that could not be any more different. we have vice president kamala harris sending a unity message of country before party. versus donald trump who puts himself before country. and it is because her opponent is donald trump, unfit, unhinge and anti-democratic that kamala harris is making in roads into a broad coalition that we have not seen really in the 21st vicinity. coalition of independents, democrats and republicans united for democracy and united against trump. moments ago, harris even ventured into the hostile television territory for the first interview that she's had thus far on fox. though the first portion of the interview was entirely about immigration, the vice president managed to wrestle away from migrant crisis fear mongering to address the stakes of this
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election. >> 50%? >> listen -- >> are you stupid? what is it? >> i would never say that about the american. in fact f you listen to donald trump f you watched any of his rallies, he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and deminnish the american people. he's the one who talks about an enemy within. an enemy within. talking about the american people. suggesting he would turn the american military on the american people. you and i both know that he has talked about turning the american military on the american people. he has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. he talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. this is a democracy. >> the vice president may not be the first democratic candidate to appear on fox, but her message to republicans is resonating with big names across the aisle. today more than 100 republicans stood alongside her in bucks county, pennsylvania.
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outside philadelphia, as she delivered a strong rebuke of her opponent. >> donald trump is increasingly unstable and unhinged. anyone who has called for the, quote, termination of the constitution of the united states, as donald trump has, must never again stand behind the seal of the president of the united states. >> this type of crossover appeal within our two major political parties is extremely rare. you had the reagan democrats, white, male democrats motivated by social conservatism who defected in the presidential elections in the 1980s to vote for the republican candidate. reagan democrats were such a decisive phenomenon, still a mythical quality to them. something to be debated and studied.
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it's not like you hear bush democrats or obama republicans or republicans for clinton. can you imagine? you know what you do here, though, these days? republicans for kamala. it's a result of her message and commitment to unity. something her opponent has no interest in. in a fox townhall in battleground georgia, trump appeared before an audience of all women because, you know, hosting an adjudicated rapist is what fox would green light. trump doubled down on his hitler talking points about the enemy from within. >> it is the enemy from within. and they're very dangerous. they're marxists and communists and fascists and they're saying -- i use a guy like adam schiff. they made up the russia hoax. we have china. we have russia. we have all these countries. if you have a smart president, they can all be handled. the more difficult -- you know, the pelosis, these people, they're so sick. and they're so evil.
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>> turns out trumps enemies from within aren't undocumented immigrants as his followers want you to think. i see you glenn youngkin. those enemies are democrats elected by the people who happen to disagree with him. dictator much? joining me now is david jolly, msnbc political analyst and former republican congressman and robert p. jones, president of the public religion research institute. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. i do want to start with you david, because you know, i just was making a couple notes as i was listening there. you had in bucks county, pennsylvania, today the former lieutenant governor of georgia. we had our friend olivia troy who worked in the trump administration. adam kinzinger, very conservative republican, former congressman. you had vice president harris, praising mike pence and saying, butt for him, we might not still have our democracy. and then there was the literal, physical embrace of the two people who introduced her. >> that's right. >> couple, lifelong republicans. the husband voted twice for
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donald trump. they were a couple that had a farm. so they're rural folks. >> that's right. >> and it strikes me that part of what vice president harris is doing, including in that brett bear interview is saying part of the way to bring the country together is a literal, physical embrace of people who for a lot of democrats are a naf nath ma. you could have worked for him, voted for him, voted for him twice you're still my people and i will go to your favorite network and argue on your behalf. >> joy, i love to see vice president harris in this environment because, for one, strategically, there are very few gettable voters left in the next two weeks. this is a group of gettable voters. it's unorthodox for a democratic candidate to think, i need to spend part of my last two weeks going after republican voters. but they're available because, as you mentioned, you know, kind of the grass roots support from republicans who can't vote for trump again and up there also about 100 former members of congress, at least on the email chains that i saw that could or
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couldn't make it that represent districts across the country. i mean, this was not just your kinzinger cheney event. and it shouldn't be. this was your vice president harris event. right now she's the most powerful voice to either never trumper, soft republicans, pro-democracy republicans, whatever you want to call them. in some places we're beginning to see -- again, this sounds unorthodox. the closing message from the two candidates because, as much as vice president harris has talked about policy and wants this race to be about policy, many voters want to vote on reproductive freedom and other issues, this race is about donald trump and whether or not he's a danger to the nation and what happens if he returns. and the vice president is realizing that as well. and, it seems odd to make it simply about the donald trump brand and the danger of donald trump, but if your most gettable voters are actually republicans who disagree with you on policy but want to protect the country -- >> yeah. >> donald trump is giving us his closer message, enemies within that he will round up with the
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u.s. military. i feel very good about that contrast if i'm vice president harris going into the last two weeks. >> now he expanded enemies within, he was talking about immigrants, particularly nonwhite immigrants he wants to round up in camps. adam kinzinger is on the list as well as speaker polosy. >> you and i were together at brookings. what is available to vice president harris. just to quote some of the new poll, it's my favorite polling out, you guys are because you do real great numbers. not like the sort of trash polls we sometimes dump into the marketplace talk about that here. prri survey, your new american values survey, support for political violence. let's put it up on the screen. a third of republicans. supporting political violence. whether or not society has become too soft and feminine, 73%. three quarters of republicans saying that and that's a problem in the country. immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, something
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we never thought we would hear an american president say. look at the number of republicans who agree with that statement. and i will even note that some of the people who agree with that statement included almost a quarter of jewish voters, 19% of black protestant, mormon voters a third of them and then my last one here, whether or not undocumented migrants should be rounded up and put into militarized encampments, 79% of republicans. what's even available to vice president harris outside of core democrats? >> first, let me say, you know, as you know, i've been doing this for nearly 20 years. and there are questions that we have had to write during the trump era as social scientists that i never thought we would have to write. so to write that question and put it on a public opinion survey and say we actually need to know what the american people think about this statement that whether immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, right, i think we just pause for a
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minute and say how astonishing that is. i look at these numbers all the time. and it is astonishing to me that we need to know the answer to that question. but that's where we are in the country today. 6 in 10 republicans, one of our two political parties, and this is -- as you used the word nazi. we're all taught to not be knee jerk and use the nazi analogy, but when -- >> start using hitler you're losing. >> but poisoning the blood, that's hitler's word. it's often -- almost always used in this way, this kind of idea of purity and defilement, contamination and it's politics of disgust that we're really seeing here. so it's really challenging when you see this argument. and we got again 6 in 10 republicans for this also in violation a third. one in three republicans saying we may have to resort to violence to save the country. that's the place that we're in. but i do think there's this.
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back to your original point, is that i do think that one of the biggest contrasts we're seeing is we never saw donald trump sayingly be a president for all americans. we never saw that. back in 2016 people thought, oh, he'll pivot once he gets elected. then we heard that inauguration address, right, when he was first elect and it was exactly what we're getting now, right? it was apocalypse and i am the president for the people who elected me and that's it. one of the things we're seeing for harris, her saying exactly the opposite. i want to be a president for all americans. >> so here is the question, then, you are the numbers guy and i want both you guys to answer this question, if we live in a country where 60% of self-identified republicans essentially believe what hitler believed, right, in terms of people should be rounded up, they're poisoning our blood, how is this country governable by somebody like vice president harris as much as she is reaching out and saying, everyone here -- she refused to take the bait from brett bear
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who wanted to try her to insult trump's supporters. she wouldn't do it. but if she wins govern a country in which personals of people at that level believe those kinds of things. how does that work? >> it wasn't that long ago we had bipartisan support for immigration in this country. trump has pulled people with him. it does mean if we get trump out of the stoking that fire, we may see some of that come back. eight years ago we had majority of republicans sporting a pathway to citizenship. >> quaint times. >> down to 36% today. >> you're formally republican. are people inside of the party at the leadership end who have done nothing to stop this, allowed trump to do this to his supporters. is there enough of a core of a republican party to go back ward, to go back? >> no way. he's revealing the republican party. there's not a resistance within the republican party outside of some of the people that you see on this question of democracy. how is the nation governable,
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though? under president harris, the constitution remains a remarkable document that protects political minorities, the rights of people to hate f they want. under a donald trump, the constitution is only so elastic. and as he insists on tearing it apart, that's where the real danger is. i shared with you earlier, i think this is a very unsettling moment. we know this is a dark chapter in american history. these few weeks are very unsettling to see a closing message, enemies within, numbers of people who support political violence. there's a dark cultural rot and political rot in the united states that is agreeing to donald trump's messaging and it's what makes the stakes so high in this race. the nation can with stand this rot with a vice president harris working within the constitution to, yes, to denounce political hate and cultural hate. but to represent -- or to recognize the importance of the constitution. it cannot survive this type of
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cultural rot and hate under a donald trump willing to tear the constitution asunder. >> we don't have time to get into it because i want to talk about the religious aspect of it. donald trump talked about her pastor, named her pastor, i know her pastor a little bit. the churches are going to have to come to bear because a lot of these are people who are in church every week. >> yeah. >> being taught the worst of the worst and believing the worst of the worst and they're coming out of the church. so, not the black evangelical church. >> that's right. >> we'll talk about more. we'll have these guys back on a lot because we don't let them have lives. david jolly and robert p. jones. thank you. the harris campaign provided a stark reminder of the draconian policies urn trump, holding a press conference with families, this is serious stuff, separated during his administration. you're going to definitely want to hear this. it is heart breaking sounds and that is next. is heart breaking that is next (sigh)
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just 20 days until the election and a stark contrast between the democratic and republican parties is in clear focus. especially regarding the latino vote, which is close to 15% of the electorate. today, trump took part in a townhall in florida, where the audience asked questions and the former president, well, you know, he did his best. when asked why he directed
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bipartisan border legislation to be abandoned, trump instead slammed illinois governor j.b. pritzker, who had nothing to do with negotiations on that bill, and isn't even a senator. trump refused to walk back his false and racist climbs of migrants eating pets in ohio. and when asked who will do the demanding and physically grueling jobs like farming if he deports 11 million people, trump said this -- >> the other thing i can say is that, a lot of the jobs that you have and that other people have are being taken by these people that are coming in. and the african-american population and the hispanic population in particular are losing jobs now because millions of people are coming in. >> lots to unpack there. but, to sum it up, just google the word, sun downing. the harris campaign on the completely other side preempted
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trump's weird outreach to latinos by putting together a press conference with families who had been separated by trump policies and are no reunited, reminding the public about one of the most controversial chapters of trump's lone term in office and the human consequences of his zero tolerance policy. >> during the trump administration in 2018, i suffered a lot of trauma. the emptiness i felt when they told me that i wasn't going to be able to see my family again is something out of this world. and something that no kid should go through. >> i don't want donald trump to be president again because i don't want other kids to go through what i did. >> it is worth noting that when president biden and vice president harris first took office, they rescinded the trump era zero tolerance policy and established a family reunification task force, reuniting over 5,000 families, a figure that looks minuscule when you look at how trump is talking about breaking up millions of families if elected or anointed.
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>> i'm announcing today that upon taking office we will have an operation aurora at the federal level. to expedite the removals of these savage gangs. and i will invoke the alien enemies act of 1798. i can do it with an executive order. i have to do it with executive order. you can do it with the aliens act of 1798. we can do things in terms of moving people out. we can move them out of the sanctuary cities. >> joining me now is, president and ceo of vote for latino. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to let you respond. i still do remember going to south texas during the separation policy and we were only allowed to see the kids. >> you and i spent a lot of time there and we covered it. >> yeah. >> this is where what trump is proposing is so dangerous for the very fabric of who we are as an american identity.
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because one can say, well, he's only going to deport the people who don't belong here. but what he's trying to say is that it's a major dog whistle for every single person who is a white nativist to target all of us who is not white. that's such grave danger. eisenhower did operation wetback deported a million mexicans who included american citizens. >> yeah. >> under trump, he -- when he was doing all these round outs not just with family separations, but when he was going -- i.c.e. agents going to neighborhoods, there were american citizens caught in that dragnet. this idea that he's only going to deport the folks that will, quote unquote, be here, unjust and hypocritical but really encouraging a nativist agenda danger to our economy and our country. >> the latinos who support trump, do they realize that? we had bobby jones on and i was just at brookings and looking
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through the survey. terrifying thing, latinos, people of color, in favor of mass deportation and are saying, at least in polls, that they're in favor of camps, concentration camps. you guys just did a poll, a big poll of latino voters. it shows kamala harris 62/37. trump, that's high for trump. but do people -- i'm sorry, 31 for trump. when you're polling these latinos, do they realize that trump means them, too? >> so this is what's interesting. the reason our poll varies from other folks is that we focus specifically on battleground states where we need people to win in order to win our democracy. so it's 2,000 voters. i can tell you that the folks that even have a marking of voting for trump, it's the economy. it's not cultural at all. even though the media likes to say it's cultural, no, i would like my check back. >> right. >> they actually believe he signed the check and we have to remind people -- >> the stimulus check. >> that was your money.
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that was your taxes that the government basically gave back to you so you can pull through. i think the challenge, though, in the latino community is having a frank conversation with folks who think that they present white but the moment that you see a changing of the guard, that is not the case. in california, you're seeing a softening for democratic principles and part is because they don't remember pete wilson. you know who remembers pete wilson. i remember pete wilson. i was politicized under pete wilson. who else, vice president kamala harris. i do wish she would speak what it was like in california with the original show me your paper laws because nobody was safe. it was that moment that created mobilization among not just latinos, but african-americans and asian-americans. >> yeah. >> because all of a sudden we're like wait a second. i remember our neighbors in is a sonoma sonoma, seasoning a seat at the table for my grandmother. >> the ore moment of that is
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when arizona signed a papers please law, marco rubio opposed and said it was like naziism and major league baseball was concerned about having practices for major league teams in arizona because such a high percentage of mlb players are latino, they can get pulled other and it's a baseball star. >> and this is where i think this is so important. in arizona, i don't have to remind young people what it was like to live under sheriff arpaio. sheriff arpaio politicized them. they don't want that chapter of their country back. neither does nevada, neither does georgia. the challenge, though is that unless there's more conversation of engaging what mass deportation means, by the democratic party, by the media, people listen feel like it must not be a big deal. now is the time to sound the alarm. thank you for doing this segment. >> i did pitch rob by jones when they do their survey on whether people are for the camps to not say encampments. if you said internment camps or
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since donald trump's right wing majority on the supreme court killed roe v. wade and undid 50 years of freedoms for half the population, abortion protection has become a top motivating issue for voters. as a new nbc news poll shows. and the fall of roe put a voting group that typically favored republicans very much in play, white women. for his part, trump departed temporarily from his all-man's world campaign to participate in a townhall with an all-woman audience on fox. near the end of the hour-long event they got to the question that's top of mind for voters since the 2022 dobbs ruling. >> why is the government involved in women's basic rights? >> right. good. i think it's great. i'm glad you asked that. for 52 years this issue has torn our country apart. through really the courage of six supreme court justices, we were able to do this after years and years of turmoil. now it's back in the states.
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we have the states are voting for it. and honestly, some of them are going much more liberal, like in ohio i would have thought it -- >> some of them are not. >> some of them are not but it's going to be redone. >> as part of that answer, trump weaved to make this bizarre declaration. >> and ivf, you mentioned this before. >> let's get this question because i believe this is what this is about. >> oh, i want to talk about ivf. i'm the father of ivfs. >> it's unclear what he meant by being the father of ivfs since within a minute he seemed to suggest he barely found out what ivf is like five minutes ago. >> so although abortion does lie with the states, what is your stance on that and what would you say to those women? >> so, i got a call from katie brit, a young, just fantastically attractive person from alabama. she's a senator. i said explain ivf very quickly. and within about two minutes i understood it.
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i said, no, no. we're totally in favor of ivf. i came out with a statement, within an hour, a really powerful statement, with some experts, really powerful, and we went totally in favor. the republican party, the whole party. >> it's demon strably false that the whole party went in favor since jd vance has twice blocked right to ivf legislation this year. joining me now is anderson clayton, chair of the north carolina democratic party. and shannon watts, founder of moms demand action, who organized answer the call, which raised more than 1 -- more than $11 million for the harris/walz campaign. shannon, i want to start with you. abortion is clearly galvanizing women and presenting what really might be the first opportunity in modern history to get white women to go even 50/50 for a democrat. let me just play the history --
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show the history. in 2016, donald trump got 52%, hillary clinton got only 43% in 2020 he went up, 55/44, despite women knowing that he was the grab women by the you know what candidate. does abortion change that? >> i think it does. i think the fact that we had donald trump as president for four years, we saw what he did. he gave us the trump abortion bans. he has jeopardized ivf. in fact, under project 2025, ivf would be possibly illegal. and as my friend, the activist says, your whiteness will not save you from what the petri archihas in store for you. white women are starting to see that. i don't want to be pollyanna. we have a horrible track record. but there was a poll that came out yesterday that said mitt romney was ahead by nine points with white women, trump the two elections 6 and then 7 and now just one. and so i think that is a significant shift that shows
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that maybe white women are finally not just going to vote in their own self interest but in all women's best interests. >> right. and for the audience to understand the demographics we talk about this some time, every other white woman votes majority democratic but various levels. white women, just went 50/50, democrats don't have to get 51% of white women, half, if they got 50/50 it would be game over. right now there's a poll called galvanize action of moderate white women in battleground states that shows harris ahead 46/44. we know young college educated white women have gone majority d. it is possible. anderson, let me bring you in here. north carolina, i will note that early voting in north carolina starts tomorrow. so hopefully everybody is registered and ready. are you seeing the dobbs effect in your state? >> absolutely. the number one issue that we're hearing on college campuses this year is abortion rights. and the right to have freedom to decide when to start a family or
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if you choose to do so. and we know that donald trump right now leaving abortion rights and decisions up to states right now, like north carolina, where our state legislature in 2023 enacted one of the most extreme abortion bans that we have seen in our state's history, he's endorsing those abortion bans left and right. we have seen women come together, whether be from the suburbs in charlotte or out in our rural communities that are ready to fight for their reproductive rights this year. >> let me ask you this question, anderson to stay with you for a moment. one of the things that i have noted is in states like north carolina, florida, georgia, texas, women have not punished the legislatures and governors who have presided over the loss of their rights in the states because as trump said, it's back in the states. you saw people just get re-elected and not really -- there's been no reaction. you have a candidate right now for governor mark robinson, been very explicitly anti-abortion though apparently he's pro porn
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for personal use. he's suing cnn other that. whatever. that's the allegation which he denies. do you see this issue, women now saying you know what, if you voted against my rights or you spoken out against my rights and my liberties i'm going to vote against you, and i mean white women. >> definitely. the other aspect to north carolina that people have to understand and honestly the south in general is that we've been under republican oppression when it comes to racial and partisan gerrymandering in our state as well. so you have republicans in our state legislature drawn districts for themselves not letting voters actually pick who is representing them in office. so, i fully anticipate the opportunity statewide this year to echo that we don't want people like mark robinson who also has endorsed a statewide abortion ban or the folks that are running down ballot with him on his slate, hall weatherman running for lieutenant governor, dan bishop running for attorney general and the list goes on. michelle march running for
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superintendent. we have the most extreme republican slate this year running in the state that wants to take back rights that we have fought for for so long but we're also making sure we're trying to emphasize the importance of state legislature races this year, like nicole sidman's race where you had republican trisha switched parties in 2023, gave republicans the ability to enact an abortion ban in our state just last year. >> that's how you be a state party chair. you name every single race you want people to pay attention to. there's also the issue, shannon, of the sort of predator factor. the sex factor. let me play this quick ad from an organization called the anti-psychopath pac. >> they let you do it. you can do anything. >> donald trump shut the door and pushed me up against the wall and banged my head and kissed me. it was so shocking. >> trump leads me to this room, pushing me against the wall and starts kissing me forcefully.
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>> trump started groping me. he was trying to kiss me and i'm trying to push him away. he was sort of touching me all over my body. i pushed him away. just shoved his tongue in my mouth, started kissing me. >> we didn't have those personal stories in 2016, we didn't have them in 2020. we have them now, trump anned a jood kated sexual assaulter and jd vance who hates women who don't have children. does that cumulative effect in your view help the vice president with white women? >> i think it does. they clearly, as you said, hate women. donald trump is the father not of ivf of abortion bans. one in three women now live under a trump abortion ban. and so, we have this history. we have this track record. as you said, white women are not a monolith. we're divided among lines of education and religion and marital status. the reason we're swing voters, you get a few of us to change our votes then we will vote the right way and change this entire
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election. and that's why my message is you may be in the 47%, but voting is not enough. you know the 53%. they are your mothers, sisters, your friends. it is up to us in these last three weeks to persuade, to change hearts and mind and to convince white women to finally vote in all women's best interests. >> we have 20 some odd days to find out how that pitch will land. anderson clayton and shannon watts, thank you both very much. coming up, control of the senate is up for grabs. and it's looking especially interesting in texas. where colin allred and ted cruz had a fierily debate last night. that's next. looking good, guys! thanks! vacations are better with the credit gods are on your side. i'm coming up! rewards once available to the few are now accessible to the many. earn points for travel with credit one bank, and live large.
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as i keep saying, there are just 20 days to go until election day. and i know right now all eyes are on the presidential race. but it's equally important to not lose sight of key down ballot races, since the only thing that will determine whether a president, kamala harris, is able to pass any of her agenda, or if president trump is able to make project 2025 the law of the land. if who controls the house and the senate. the senate in particular is extremely important this year. democrats are at risk of losing control of their already-slim majority. as they face several competitive races in states like west virginia and montana. they're hoping to flip a republican seat or two in places like texas, where former nfl linebacker turned congressman
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colin allred is vying for the seat currently held by senator ted cruz. recent polls have shown cruz is leading, but not by much. this kweek a survey from the university of houston shows cruz up four points. 50 to 46% other allred. the two candidates faced off last night in a fiery debate where allred took cruz to task on a number of issues, including the draconian abortion laws in texas, after cruz refused to answer three times if he supports exceptions for reign or incest. >> you should look into the camera and speak to kat cox who is watching right now and explain to her why you said this law that you said is perfectly reasonable, why she was forced to leave her two children behind and flee our state to get the care that she needed. or look in the camera and talk to amanda, who is watching right now. and explain to her why it's perfectly reasonable that because she had a complication in her pregnancy and was denied care so long she may never be able to have children of her own 26,000 texas women forced to
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give birth to their rapist child. >> allred confronted cruise about his role on january 6th. >> i have to say, you can't be for the mob on january 6th and for the officers. you can't. and it's not funny. you're a threat to democracy. >> sure. >> i was on the house floor when we went through the votes. i remember when you objected to the results in arizona. i remember when they told us to reach under our seats for these gas masks. i didn't know we had because they deployed tear gas in the rotunda. the officers locked all the doors. we barred the doors. the president walks through to deliver the state of the union with furniture we usually use to hold paper. i texted my wife ally, seven months pregnant with our son cameron and at home with our son jordan not yet 2. whatever happens i love you. i took off my suit jacket and was prepared to defend the house floor from the mob. at the same time, after you had been the architect of the attempt to overthrow that election, when that mob came, senator cruz was hiding in a
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supply closet. >> ouch. and of course, allred made not one, not two but four references to cruz's infamous trip to cancun while his state was in crisis after a winter storm. >> this is a pattern. you know, this is somebody who goes to the ritz carlton in can toon. you think he cares about inflation and about working families? when his entire career he spent his time trying to cut taxes for the rich and not looking out for working folks. >> from the top rope. but it's not just texas, republicans could also potentially face another upset in one of the most unexpected places, ruby red nebraska, independent candidate dan osbourne is running a surprisingly competitive race against two-term, pro trump republican deb fisher. he joins me next.
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okay, but in fact, nebraska is known for its cornhuskers, the reuben sandwich, and being the place that brought us kool- aid, i bet you didn't know that, it is not known for competitive senate races until now. dan osborne is running a competitive race against deb fischer, osborne is a navy veteran and a union boss who led a 77 day strike against kellogg's and also happens to be a decades long independent with zero public office
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experience. polls show he is running neck and neck with fisher. the two party doom loop, the key issues, tax cuts for the minimum -- middle-class, enhanced rail safety legislation and lower taxes on overtime wages. dan osborne joins me now, thank you so much for being here, you are definitely a unique candidate. in a state that is so ruby red, what is your bill of particulars against the sitting senator? why should they not keep voting read? >> i haven't always been a political guy, and i realized what the ruling classes.
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millionaires that work for billionaires, less than 2% of our elected officials come from the working class. and i get frustrated with the two parties catering to the extremes, not getting anything done for us, which agai farmville come and go on the extension from 2018 crop insurance is outdated, and people are getting frustrated. i think the independent piece is not taking corporate dollars, i'm not going to be held to corporations i am going to be bold and to the people in nebraska the way the framers of the constitution intended it to be for people. i know my opponent monies going to be flooding in to my state. the mudslinging is already started if you want to find out more, it is osbornesenate.com.
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>> the way the system works in the united states senate, if you are not with either party, had you get on committees? you seem to be aligned more with the democrats alike, you are saying you wouldn't caucus with either how to function in the senate? >> i think if you look at the issues, there are plenty aligned with republicans as well, 35 trillion reasons why people in nebraska should vote for me. george noris was the last independent senator from nebraska. d.c. could probably take a couple of notes from there are some precedents, i could be the
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51st swing vote in the u.s. senate, it is going to make it so people are coming to me. billionaires are pouring money into our election, i was watching a jimmy carter, the spending was zero, these are public finance campaign they purchase politicians, talk a little bit more about that, is that something we are starting to see? moral voters in places like your state kind of wake up to the fact that it's not their fellow americans, it is the billionaires. >> you hit the nail on the head, people are waking up to it. the 50 and 44 currently people are waking up and they understand the three families
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have amassed more wealth in this country than the bottom 50% which i fall into and $50 trillion has migrated since 1980 from 90% of americans to the top half percent, it is the biggest migration of wealth in human history. people are hurting, i am hurting, the economy is, we are seeing inflation at the grocery stores, we are seeing kroger's admitting to price gouging and people are frustrated and we all know that. >> they initially ran on term limits and people get into the office in the united states and find it is a pretty sweet gig and they don't ever want to lead, you are a regular guy how do you fight the temptation to
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get in and be part of that system? apparently being a senator is an awesome job because people seem to never want to leave it. i live by the teachings of jesus, treat others how you want to be treated. when i was on strike at kellogg's, my numbers -- members were all going out to get other jobs to put food on the table. i didn't have that luxury. >> you are an interesting fellow, best of luck to you
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