general milley sums it up this way -- "donald trump is fascist to the core," his words. yet the circus of lies continues, as if nothing is going on here. that's why what we saw last night was remarkable. kamala harris knows her value and the value of the truth. the vice president uncovered many layers of lies from both former president donald trump and the media bending to his will in that one incredible moment when she called out brett bair for showing that misleading clip. it told the truth about where we are right now, and i hope citizens of this beautiful country take note. that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now, and whether the leader of hamas was killed in a gaza operation.

see you tomorrow. right now on "ana cabrera reports," the israeli military investigating the possibility it killed the leader of hamas, the architect of the october 7th attack. we are live in the region for what could be a massive development in this war. also ahead, 19 days left in the race for the white house. harris' trip into the lion's den, fox news. trump and the tough questions he faced including from one republican voter. ♪ ♪ hello. it's 10:00 eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we have breaking news in the middle east. israeli forces say this morning it is possible they killed the

mastermind behind the october 7th attack. in a statement they say -- >> so far the identities are not confirmed. let's go straight to air with erin mclaughlin. erin, what more are we learning? >> reporter: hey there, ana. well, according to a statement released be i the israeli military, they're investigating the possibility that the leader of hamas was killed during an israeli military operation in gaza, according to that statement, in an unspecified location of the gaza strip, they say the israeli military entered the building and three militants were killed inside. they're looking at the possibility that one of the

militants was, in fact, sinwar, although they cannot verify that. it is not confirmed at this point. it is what they are looking at. if confirmed, this is a significant blow to hamas terror organization. he's seen as the architect of the october 7th terror attacks. worth noting that, according to the israeli military, no israeli hostages were found in that building where those militants were killed. we heard from the israel defense minister on x tweet "chase the enemy and they will fall on your sword, we will reach every terrorist and eliminate him. we know that israeli officials have made the death of sinwar a priority during this past year of war. we're also hearing from some of the relatives of former hostages, thomas hand, the

father of 9-year-old emily hand who was kidnapped from her kibbutz on october 7th, and released as part of the hostage deal. he said, i'm hopeful his personal reign of terror is ended. i hope this heavy blow will help bring an end to this terrible war. perhaps they will feel weakened enough to come to the table and make a serious deal to end the war and give us back our poor hostages after more than a year in brutal captivity. again, if this is, in fact, confirmed, ana, it has significant implications for the hamas terror organization. for the israeli hostages, 101 of them still being held in gaza, as well as the overall war, not to mention the palestinian civilians in gaza right now, ana. >> erin, thanks for the reporting. we'll let you know so you can work your sources to get more

information here. john brennan, your thoughts on this statement from the idf? would israel put this out there if there was much uncertainty here? what is the likelihood that sinwar was taken out? >> well, ana, i think that sinwar has been one of the israeli targets for the past year. he's been the priority target, because he's not just the architect of october 7th massacre, but also the military and political leader of hamas. if they were able to eliminate him, again, it's not confirmed, but he may have been hiding, i don't want to say in plain sight, but above ground, as a way to mask his actual location. the israelis, who were going through those tunnels, saw that the command structure was there. but it would be a significant blow to hamas. it would further decapitate the organization that has already

host a number of senior leaders. it's not going to lead to the demise of the hamas militancy and terrorist organization, but it certainly will do a lot to degrade its capabilities as it will be searching for a successor to sinwar if the israelis have killed him. >> if it is confirmed, we want to be very careful as we proceed here. all we're able to report here is that they're looking at the possibility that he is among those killed, and i'm wondering, john, it's like cutting off the head of a snake here. we're talking about the leader of this organization, somebody who was called the architect of the october 7th attack. but is there someone in your mind that would be the obvious person to take a spot? >> well, sinwar has assumed not just the military leadership of hamas. he has been in gaza for several years doing that.

but after the assassination of -- just some of the political leadership, as well. so there are going to be individuals within gaza, and we don't know whether another senior terrorist with hamas is dead or not. but someone that would try to handle the military aspect of it, whether or not it's going to be somebody within the organization that has a more moderate cast to them, and that's a very relative term when you talk about hamas. whether or not there's going to be someone who can emerge to take on the political leadership that can, in fact, negotiate a cease-fire, as maybe israel sees this now as nearly a death blow if sinwar is killed. it may try to revive the cease-fire discussions, that now they are in a much better position, as we saw with the possible sinwar death.

>> jason, how do you see it? if he was killed, what does it mean for this war? >> i think the directors got a lot of this right, in this may provide an opening for further discussions and negotiations, and we should keep in mind the broader context here. it's not really just hamas, but it's iran, it's hezbollah, the proxies of iran that have been waging war against the united states and israel for a significant amount of time. in fact, putting our own u.s. service members in jeopardy. i represent concerned parents for america who have seen this first hand with injured soldiers coming back from iraq and syria. so the real question is, can the united states, in our own foreign policy strategy, leverage diplomacy, economic sanctions, the things that are necessary to get iran to contain these proxies, whether it's hamas or whether it's hezbollah or houthis in yemen, and part of that will, again, provide an opening, because israel has decimated the leadership structure of these proxies, and now there is some, some

opportunities for change to take place. but it has to be recognized that, behind all these proxies and behind this escalating war that's been going on, you have a nation state that has a lot of belligerents and has called for the destruction of another nation state. so this is a good opportunity, but as director brennan points out, it's not the end. you can take out certain leeds. they will have follow-on. but right now is a time to move, and i think the white house is going to be very -- potentially pleased with the opportunity to maybe change the table now. >> so jason, if sinwar is gone, removed from the organization of hamas, who is leading it at this point? does that mean that hamas is much weaker? >> certainly, but not just because sinwar's potential death here, but because the entire infrastructure has been at war, at a war footing since they opened up the attack on october 7th last year. and so they've been hiding,

their leadership has been decimated. hezbollah's leadership has been decimated. in iran, those that are driving these proxies are looking at, how do we save face and contain this? but the containment is really gone. at this point, israel is inside the territories, and they're systematically operating through the leadership levels of this political establishment. so yes, it is very effective. to be honest, if you're looking at emerging leadership, they have to be thinking the same thing. until this situation changes in the grand scheme, in other words, until people sit down and talk about how an end of this conflict looks, if you are stepping into leadership in any one of these iranian proxies, you're next on the target list. and that has been demonstrated in the last four weeks significantly so. so i would say this is a significant change, if it's happened. >> we're learning the president has been briefed on the possible death of sinwar in gaza.

john, the national security council says it's deafing to the israelis on this matter. how are they going to make this confirmation? >> ana, the israelis have a lot of information on sinwar, his dna from many years in prison with israel. so i think that dna is going to be dispositive whether or not that is sinwar who was killed this that operation. but also, they're going to be looking at what activities that have been taking place inside of hamas, as they react to the possible death of sinwar, to see whether or not they have the sources, to give them some insight into who might, in fact, step into his shoes, because even though -- i think the netanyahu government will see if they can capitalize on this some

way to bring the fighting, the bloodshed to an end. and also, the overwhelming majority of palestinians on this fighting to stop. but they have to be mindful that there are a lot of militants still in gaza, especially those that feel quite aggrieved and angry over the 43,000 or so that have been killed as a result of the israeli military operations. hoping that if, in fact, this is true, that both sides -- and it is going to be depending on whether or not iran is going to allow at least some breathing space here to see whether or not negotiations can move forward to get those hostages back, to have a cease-fire, and to see whether or not we can move forward in some positive way in gaza despite the challenges. >> yeah. you remind us, john, that israel had sinwar back in their custody

in the '80s. he was released in 2011 as part of an exchange negotiated by netanyahu. i'm wondering how quickly they would be able to use his dna that they have already to make this confirmation, how quick could they turn this around? >> well, once they get the body back and they do the analysis, they can get that confirmation quickly. therefore, i think israel will make the announcement and come out with a statement. i think that will confirm one way or another whether or not sinwar is dead or not. >> former cia director john brennan and jason beardsley, thank you. we're going to stay on top of any new information that we get in this story and bring it to you, our viewers. let's talk about the 2024 race. just 19 days to go. former president trump will be in new york city tonight for the

al smith charity dinner, a traditional campaign spot every four years. harris won't be there, making her the first candidate to skip in decades. instead, she'll be crisscrossing battleground wisconsin, hitting the road after yesterday's fox news interview, and her first-ever sitdown with the network was contentious right from the jump. >> well, i'm glad you raised the issue of immigration. i agree it is a topic of discussion that people want to rightly have. and you know what i'm going to talk about. >> but just a number, do you think it's 1 million, 3 million? >> brett, let's just get to the point. the point is that we have a broken immigration system that needs to be repaired. >> so your homeland security said that 85% of apprehensions -- >> i'm not finished. >> julie is on the trail in wisconsin. also with us, lina maxwell, and

former new hampshire republican party chair, jennifer horn. julie, what's on the agenda for harris today? >> reporter: so good to be with you, ana. i'm in green bay, this is the third campaign stop for kamala harris today in wisconsin. the first two, she's being joined by billionaire mark cuban in milwaukee, and in lacrosse, wisconsin, as well. we've seen her make stops here. she was with liz cheney here in a different part of wisconsin, which just goes to show you how much she's trying to make that outreach, expanding her tent, expanding the voters that will show up for her on election day, trying to cut into those margins of republicans who perhaps are turned off by the former president, to cut into the moderate, independent voters. so harris' campaign saying she has prescheduled battle ground stops. this is really important for her. she will continue, of course, to

message to these moderate groups of voters. wisconsin is a state that joe biden won by less than a percentage point in 2020, so certainly this is a state that harris needs. she also, of course, has been swinging through michigan, pennsylvania. she had that campaign bus with the governors of those states coming out, so a lot to watch from her here today. is what is is the feeling inside the harris campaign after that fox interview, julie? >> reporter: the feeling is good. it's overwhelmingly positive. of course, she sort of went into the lion's den, so to speak, as we've been saying over and over again. this was part of her media blitz, her campaign trying to put her in front of voters and crowds that like i mentioned would normally discount her but are curious what she has to say. she answered strongly on the border, on imimmigration. she did try to redirect that conversation several times to the former president. but for her campaign's part, they released a statement saying "we feel like we achieved what

we set out to achieve in the sense that she was able to reach an audience that has probably not been exposed to the arguments she has been making on the trail and got to show her toughness." in my day job covering the capitol, i talked with some democrats after her appearance on fox news, and they questioned why she hasn't been doing this more, and certainly this is something perhaps that they're encouraging the campaign to do more. >> julie, thanks for the reporting. another combative moment during that interview when harris was asked about trump's enemy within comments, and she called out the fox host here for not giving the full picture. watch. >> brett, i'm sorry, and with all due respect, that clip was not what she has been saying about the enemy within, that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people, that's not what you just showed. >> he was asked about that specific -- no, no. i'm telling you -- >> he talked about locking

people up because they disagree with him. this is a democracy. and in a democracy, the president of the united states, in the united states of america, should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he would lock people up for doing it. >> she was passionate in that answer. do democrats want to see more of that, more of the fighter in these final weeks? >> well, i certainly want to see more of that. and that specific answer, because i think it's so critically important for any of those voters who are traditional republicans or more independent leaning republican voters, that they understand that donald trump has said repeatedly, not just in the enemy within comment, but he's said on the campaign trail that he wants to use the military against the americans that disagree with him. he wants to go after his political opponents, and that, she's correct to say, is not a

democracy. i also think it's important that she's been talking more in her campaign about those former trump officials, including all the way up to his vice president, who are not supporting him, who are talking and washwarning us about how dangerous he is this to country and to our national security. so i think that clear message, going directly to the fox news audience, is important. because normally, they are not hearing her unfiltered. they are normally fed, frankly, lies about what she stands for and is saying on the campaign trail. so it's important for them to hear from her directly, ana. >> jennifer, the vice president was also asked again about distinguishing herself from joe biden. watch this. >> my presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's presidency. and like every new president that comes into office, i will bring my life experiences, my

professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas. i represent a new generation of leadership. i, for example, am someone who has not spent the majority of my career in washington, d.c. i invite ideas, whether it be from the republicans who are supporting me who were just on stage with me minutes ago, and the business sector, and others who can contribute to the decisions that i make. >> jennifer, i know you are a member of the republicans for harris group. so i wonder, will that answer satisfy voters who maybe aren't sold on the biden administration? >> i think it was a really strong answer. she made it very clear that she's not joe biden. i love that she talked about a new generation of leadership, because we know that age is one of the issues that a lot of voters, republican voters in particular, had with joe biden in spite of the fact that donald trump is showing extraordinary

signs of decreasing ability, cognitive ability, as well. i think that was a great answer, and i think what kamala harris is doing on the campaign trail, kind of one of the core tenants of her entire campaign, has been about reaching a frosty aisle, showing she's going to be a leader who brings everybody to the table. she's actively reaching out to republicans who are exhausted with donald trump, who are disgusted by donald trump, and she's been doing it with very strong messaging. and if i can just say, you know, one of the things that women for us have been doing is talking directly to voters in pennsylvania, for example, where she was yesterday, speaking to republican women voters who are very open to crossing that aisle and voting for kamala harris. >> in part, because of the issue of reproductive rights, which is a huge issue this election.

here is how trump answered a question about ivf during his fox town hall yesterday. >> i'm the father of ivfs. i got a call from katie brit, a young, just a fantastically attractive person from alabama. she's a senator. and she called me up like emergency, emergency, because an alabama judge ruled that the ivf clinics -- i said explain ivf very quickly, and within two minutes i understood it. i said no, no, we're totally in favor of ivf. >> the father of ivf? your reaction? >> i don't take very much of what donald trump says these days very seriously. i think what he's the father of is the father oh of the overturning of roe v. wade. his supreme court, his hand selected justices are the ones that took away reproductive freedom for more than half of this country, who is able to get

pregnant. in addition, the party that he is the head of, the republican party, has voted against time and again access to ivf, access to birth control, and the full slate of reproductive health care. so he can say that he's the father of ivf. that doesn't make it true. just like so many of the other things that he says that are not true. he's the president that appointed the justices that took away our right to our bodily autonomy, ana, and there's nothing more central to our ability to be full human beings and to be free in this democracy. so i kind of laughed at that answer, quite frankly. >> jennifer, during that same town hall, the fox moderator mentioned the family of amber thurman was speaking out against trump. she's the pregnant woman who died because of delayed care. here was trump's reaction. >> so i want to share with you,

senators warnock, mayor bottoms, and -- atlanta mayor bottoms and amber thurman's family have come out on a press call, doing what they call a primo to our town hall. >> they'll get better ratings, i promise. >> ratings, the laughter, jennifer, how should voters square that moment with what trump has said about how women should trust him, that he's a protector of women. >> right. that was such a despicable moment to try to make a joke and pull a laugh out of the audience when discussing the completely unnecessary loss of life of a young woman. but it very much revealed, just another of the million examples of who donald trump is, and how he really thinks instingtively

about women. he said he's going to take care of women, the father of ivf. he has no understanding of women as equal members of society, as equal, full, whole human beings. he's extremely paternalistic in his views of women, which makes him a dangerous potential leader for this country if he gets to be president again. and frankly, he does not understand the issue of roe v. wade and dobbs, and why it's such a powerful influence in this election. it isn't just about the ability to choose whether or not to have an abortion. it is about independence, autonomy, equality, it is about a woman's right to not have government inserted into her most private moments of her life. and that is something that is really appealing to republican women voters right now. >> ladies, thank you so much for

joining us. still ahead, much more on our breaking news. the idf investigating whether it killed the architect of the october 7th attacks. what it means for the war. but first, early, in-person voting starting today in north carolina. we're on the ground there where this race is tight. we're back in just 90 seconds. we're back in just 90 seconds. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. now that you're eligible for medicare, it's time to take advantage of everything medicare has to offer, and much more. with

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well, voting is just getting started this morning in one critical battleground state. voters in north carolina are headed to the polls for the first day of in-perp, early voting. and the latest polls show trump and harris are neck and neck in the tarheel state. but with north carolina still reeling from the devastating impact of hurricane helene, our team in north carolina reports voting has gotten a lot more complicated. "some roads are still barry passable. dor knocking seems impractical. and town halls are not a priority in a region desperate for food and water." nbc's antonio hilton is live from black mountain, north carolina. and steve kornacki is at the big board. tim walz, as well as former president bill clinton are there. but with the aftermath of helene, how is that impacting campaigning and how people are able to vote?

>> reporter: well, ana, the major question on a lot of people's minds here is one of turnout. how does the storm and the continued crises related to the recovery impact people's ability to actually make it to voting locations like this one? i'm in black mountain. this location where voters have started to line up dealt with some damage from the storm. the county had to make repairs here, and they have had to open another brand new location for voters to have access during the early voting period. it's important, because this is a state that loves early voting. in 2020, 65% of north carolina voters utilized that early, in-person period to get their -- to exercise their vote. and, you know, this is also a state where this is going to be a very tight race. sometimes, races in north carolina are won or lost by just a couple hundred votes. so if you have communiies in the mountains that can't make it through roads that are severely impacted or people that just lost everything, their jobs, homes, cars, and right now this

is no longer their priority, it's hard to go door knocking into those neighborhoods, and to ask people, hey, do me a favor, make sure you and your friends make it to the polls. we spent time yesterday with some young men here who have been on the frontlines of recovery, and they told us, in a way, this entire storm has kind of recontextulized the government and made them care less. we have made some democratic voters who are very concerned about climate change, and who say they are more excited to vote than they were previously. so the question is going to be, where do the chips fall in these coming weeks? >> thanks for bringing us that update. great to see people out. and giving themselves their democratic right to vote, and making sure they take action. so steve, we saw a little glimpse of this quinnipiac poll.

it's very tight. >> typically, democrats haven't won north carolina much, only once really in decades here. but typically, it is pretty close in north carolina. this is what it looked like last time, donald trump a little more than a point, his margin over biden here. this is the only one of the seven core battleground states, north carolina, that trump won in 2020. all of the others biden won. so this is the place where democrats are on offense, republicans are on defense here. and just take a look here. this is how it played out in 2020. a couple things here, talking about western north carolina, the mountain where is there's all the terrible fallout from the storm, and questions about what kind of impact that could have on the election. talking about sort of this region in the state, asheville sort of the blue county around there, a lot of red areas, sort of outside of that. but in terms of what we're looking at and what we will be looking at in north carolina on election night, one of the stories to keep in mind is this. think of the two big, giant metro areas, one around

charlotte, chapel hill, that area. what's different in north carolina than some of the other swing states, georgia comes to mind, is that when you get outside of the immediate city and metropolitan area, it gets red very fast. a lot of other places you have seen the suburban areas, the metropolitan areas get much more blue. that's not happened as much in north carolina. and if democrats are going to actually overtake trump and take north carolina, i'll give you an example. core, big, giant blue county, wake county where raleigh is, more than 500,000 votes coming out of there, 27-point joe biden victory. next door in johnston county, a growing suburban county. trump was able to win by 24 points. the key though, that was down from 2016. the suburban county was 30 points republican, down to 24. there's a number of counties on the map that are kind of like this. if the democrats are going to

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more now on the breaking news out of the middle east this morning, where the idf reports that three terrorists have been killed, possibly including sinwar, the head of hamas and master mind behind the october 7th attack. a senior israeli official telling nbc news that they are awaiting the results of genetic tests to determine if it is, in fact, sinwar. join us is kier simmons, and joining us by phone, amon mohadine.

you interviewed a hamas leader a few weeks ago, discussing the whereabouts and what was going on with sinwar. what do you remember from that conversation? >> yeah. that was two weeks ago, ana. he is based in doha. i asked him directly at that time whether sinwar was alive. he was categorical that he was alive, and that he was communicating, communicating on the ground, he said, communicating with hamas leadership. in that sense, it kind of encapsulates the corner that sinwar is in, and perhaps he might be soon saying "was in" in that he had an iron -- has had an iron grip on hamas. in order to do that, he was -- he needed to communicate. reporting over the past month, talked about him sending hand written messages, passed around by couriers. there was -- that had to happen

in order for him to be moved to become leader of the hamas political wing after the killing of another in tehran back in july. so, he was able to connect, and that's what hamas says. it just -- just in the past few weeks, and yet, the risk with communicating is you indicate where you are. yahca sinwar, in khan yunis, an absolute blueprint knowledge of gaza, had the ability to move around in gaza very, very stealthily. we know that simply because it's now 12 months since october 7th, 12 months in which israel wanted to kill him and weren't able to. and now perhaps, perhaps has been able to. >> so i know you've been working the phones, what are you hearing

from your sources in the middle east? >> reporter: i think the situation right now, ana, is everybody is waiting to get this kind of genetic or dna i should say confirmation from the israeli that, in fact, it was sinwar that was killed. he also had a brother, so the israelis are doing their due diligence to make sure he was not his brother who was also a military commander within hamas that was killed in this exchange. i think a lot of people in the middle east who are watching this development on one hand not surprised. i think the terms the israelis have been using to describe him for sometime now is a "dead man walking. "all of the intelligence agencies in the middle east and all the government officials i've been speaking to knew that at some point israel was going to get him. how and when remained the question, and ultimately, the organization itself, what the organization, if in fact, sinwar

is confirmed to have been killed, what does this do for hamas? sinwar was a unique figure within the organization, given his right to power from inside gaza, ultimately to an israeli prison. but ultimately to the leadership of hamas. he was one of the very few characters and individuals who both straddled the military side of the operations, as well as the political side of the operation. the leadership of hamas that exists right now in doha, coming up the ranks of the political side, did not do or did not serve in the military wing of hamas. at one point, he was the counterintelligence chief for hamas, responsible for identifying and rooting out collaborators within the organization that worked on behalf of the israelis. so he had a lot of credibility. he had met with iranian officials in iran. so he was an individual that straddled both of those arenas.

that's why the israelis said he was another senior commander and the leader of the military wing, master minding the october 7th attacks against israel. >> thank you guys so much. come back to us as you get more information. up next, what hundreds of millions of bucks means to a billionaire. well, let's ask big donors keeping trump's campaign afloat, including elon musk. and vance and musk, doubling down on election claims about january 6th. >> that was a day of love. >> so did donald trump lose the election? not by the words that i would use. ection not by the words that i would use.

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on the election of 2020, i've answered this question directly a million times. no, i think there were serious problems in 2020. did donald trump lose the election? not by the words that i would use. >> there's jd vance yesterday giving his clearest answer yet on a question dogging him for weeks, whether he believes trump lost the 2020 election. now, vance fully backing the former president's claims that the c election was stolen. that is resonating with the base. while 93% of democrats believe joe biden legitimately won the presidency, among republicans, that number is just 28%. i want to bring in the white

house bureau chief for "the washington post," and former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. talu, vance has avoided giving a direct answer. what do you make of him now saying no, that trump did not lose the election? >> well, i think it's clear someone -- either the president himself or someone close to the president got to jd vance, because the former president is very insecure about the fact that he lost the election and often gets cross with anyone in his party who admits the truth, which is that he lost the election. so jd vance has given these weak answers saying, i'm focused on the future, not really responding, trying to avoid the question, and not answer the question, answering the question by posing other questions. and i'm very sure that the former president saw all of that and we need to be singing from the same song book. so it's clear that jd vance felt

the need to come out and speak this clearly to not upset the boss. but it doesn't win any voters that are not already with the trump/vance ticket, the people who are in the middle and considering voting for trump but don't like what happened on january 6th, don't like the fact that he's thinking about the past, the fact that he's continuing to lie about what happened in 2020 and concerned that he may spur violence by continuing to put forward these lies about election fraud. so i don't think that he's winning oh ever a lot of voting, but he's winning the vote of the person that is at the top of the ticket, who is donald trump. >> speaking of those type of voters and january 6th, congressman, trump was confronted by a republican voter yesterday at a town hall in miami about what happened after the last election, specifically about january 6th. watch. >> i want to give you the opportunity to try to win back my vote. you know, what happened during january 6th and the fact that,

you know, you waited so long to take action while your supporters were attacking the capitol. >> i said peacefully and patriotically, nothing done wrong. ashli babitt was killed, there were no guns down there. the others had guns, but we didn't have guns. when i say "we," these are people that walked down -- this was a tiny percentage of the overall, which nobody sees and nobody shows. but that was a day of love. >> just a reminder, 140 officers were injured that day. several of the people arrested that day had firearms and have been sentenced to years in prison. congressman, trump is calling it a day of love? >> well, i guess -- look, some people won't let the facts get in the way of their denial. and in this case, obviously the capitol was desecrated. officers were assaulted, the

peaceful transfer of power was temporarily delayed. it is absurd, and this is costing donald trump a lot of votes, the election denialism and revisionist history about what happened on january 6th. just to speak to the point of losing the election, my goodness, look at pennsylvania. trump lost pennsylvania by 81,000 votes, while two republicans running statewide won by 300,000 votes and 100,000 votes. now, if democrats were going to steal an election in pennsylvania, for example, why didn't they steal it all? it's just ridiculous. the fact that they're continuing to say this is costing them votes among what's left of those persuadable voters. if he loses this election, this may be a significant part of the reason why this last-minute denialism that is really offending the intelligence and sensibilities of so many americans. >> congressman, your home turf, pennsylvania, is getting a lot of attention from both

campaigns. it's the most visited state of any, and today, the richest man on earth, elon musk, is holding a town hall in delaware county, pennsylvania and will hold a series of talks to help trump. do you see musk and what he brings to the table connecting there in pennsylvania? >> well, you know, kamala harris was just here yesterday in bucks county. elon musk is here today. it's just ground zero. i think we're all shell shocked in this state. here's the mail. these are just the last couple of weeks. i probably have over 50 pieces of mail in my house. i mean, it never stops. i'm not so sure that elon musk's presence is going to, you know, bring any new votes to trump that he didn't already have. i mean, i never thought celebrity endorsements mattered that much. people clearly have strong opinions on elon musk. but it's just part of the program. they're trying to rile up their votes. this election is now all coming

down to turnout. so i think elon musk and others coming to the state now on behalf of trump and those coming on behalf of harris are really just trying to gin turnout. >> i love that you brought props for this hit. thank you, congressman dent, for making that even more visual for us. we have mark cuban also as part of the campaigning right now happening. he's there in pennsylvania for kamala harris, you have elon musk, obviously, for trump. what do you make of the role of all the billionaires now in this campaign? >> well, they've been giving a lot of money and now they're trying to get directly in front of voters and juice turnout. this is all about turnout at this point. so reminding voters that this election is happening, getting as many surrogates in front of voters and letting this early voting period being a time that people are constantly being reminded about the election. both are trying to use whatever tools they have and sometimes

billionaires will move the vote in some ways because it's going to be a close race. i don't expect it to be a major impact, but even a small impact could change the race at this point. >> just a correction for myself, mark cuban is in wisconsin campaigning for harris. thanks, guys. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," a legal setback for donald trump in his january 6th case. stay with us.

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new developments in donald trump's legal fights. in the federal election interference case, judge chutkan largely rejecting his request for more evidence from federal prosecutors, saying his claim that he was really concerned about foreign interference in the 2020 election, and not phony claims about voter fraud, didn't pass the smell test. the judge writing, there is no reason to believe that trump's purported worries about foreign interference in the 2020 election animated his concerns at the time, and trump's theories that such evidence would be relevant to his criminal case do not withstand scrutiny. let's get to former federal prosecutor christy greenberg for more on this. the judge did let trump's team move forward in asking for evidence on a few of the categories, including material reviewed by the director of national intelligence, the foreign interview with the special counsel's team records of security measures, discussed with trump the acting defense secretary and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff before

january 6th, and evidence related to the federal investigation into mike pence's handling of classified records after leaving office. that's just 3 of the 14 categories they had been trying to get more evidence in. given what the judge allowed and didn't, how big of a blow is this to trump's defense? >> it's a pretty big blow. i mean, three categories you just mentioned are pretty specific to individual witnesses, that it's information that donald trump's team may be able to use to attack their credibility down the line. so, that's one set of categories. but the vast majority of what he was seeking was really a fishing expedition here of trying to find various information about topics relating to january 6th, relating to foreign interference and election fraud, to then back into saying, well, when i had concerns about election fraud, that was reasonable. the problem that judge chutkan identifies is, well, even if this so-called evidence of concerns about election fraud existed, which you haven't shown

that it does, you're just speculating that it does. but even if it existed, you can't say you actually relied on it or you even knew about it. so, you have not shown that there is any way in which this really helps your case, and therefore i'm not letting you have that evidence. >> okay, let's turn to donald trump's georgia election case, a new development there. fulton county district attorney fani willis is asking an appeals court to allow her to reinstate some of the counts that had been thrown out by the judge in this case. what does this all mean? >> so, the counts that judge mcafee in georgia said have to be quashed are the counts of soliciting a public officer to violate his oath. and that is an oath under the u.s. constitution and the georgia constitution. but there is a ton of -- that's a lengthy indictment, there's a lot of detail there about the conduct in which these defendants engaged in. but what the judge said is missing is essentially the information about how it

violated an oath of the constitution. he says, it could have done that in 100 different ways. constitutions are large documents, like, point us to exactly how they violated their oath, you have to put that detail in the indictment. fani willis said, no, i don't need to get that specific. the bottom line is, even if she loses, all she has to do is go to the grand jury and just bring these charges with that detail. it's kind of a nothing burger, really. i'm surprised she wouldn't have gone back to the grand jury and fixed it, but here we are. >> we had interesting reporting from msnbc's rachel maddow last night that donald trump offered a financial incentive to adult film star stormy daniels just this past summer, if she agreed to keep quiet before this election. thinking about the fact that he was convicted in a hush money scheme, asking stormy daniels, paying her to keep quiet before, what do you make of this? >> it's déjà vu all over again. the man never learns.

so, what i think may actually be going on here, there was a really interesting filing during the course of this trial, where essentially the prosecutor said, yes, that stormy daniels testimony was cringe, there was a lot of detail there, but we didn't even get to the most embarrassing stuff. we were restrained when we put her on the stand. and so there's a filing, a report under seal, that has all that embarrassing detail, and i guess that is maybe what donald trump does not want stormy daniels to talk about. >> interesting. thank you so much, kristy greenberg, for helping us parse through that. to an update, an israeli official saying yahya sinwar has likely been killed. dna tests are being done on the body of one of three terrorists killed in gaza. they expect results within hours. the israeli off