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with less than three weeks to go, candidates have one last chance to make their pitch to voters, so naturally donald trump was in new york, shaking hands and my home bureau of the bronx at a barbershop instead of stumping in a battleground state which was a striking contrast to the enthusiastic response vice president harris, tim walz and former president clinton received at rallies in wisconsin and north carolina. harris finished speaking in
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green bay tonight, her third stop of the day in the must win state of wisconsin. earlier she was in milwaukee and traveled to la crosse where she deflected antiabortion protesters at the rally. >> donald trump hand selected three members of the united states supreme court. with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe v. wade and they did as he intended. oh, you guys are at the wrong rally. no, i think you meant to go to the smaller one down the street. >> today harris and walz continue to make the case that donald trump is not just unfit, but a genuine threat to
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american democracy. >> so look, if there is anybody in your life who when donald trump called for a bloodbath after this election. if they think he is just talking, i have to tell you this. you remember 2016. you remember the way he talked. this is not that trumpet even. this is something much more deranged, much more desperate, maybe to stay out of prison and with j.d. vance there there are no guardrails. >> general mark milley, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, donald trump's top general, has called trump, and i quote, fascist to the core. and it is clear, donald trump is increasingly unstable and unhinged. and will stop at nothing to claim unchecked power for
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himself. >> donald trump will have a chance to respond when he speaks at the al smith dinner later tonight, an annual tradition for presidential elections. it is an event that kamala harris will be attending on tape this year. she is in wisconsin. with the latest campaign trail news means for the election 19 days away, next. y, next. lost 'g this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check. tools that help protect. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours.
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what does a robot know about love? and learn how abbvie how to translate that leap inside the human heart into something we can see and hold. the fingerprints we leave behind show how determined we are to give the world a piece of ourselves. etsy. donald trump has been canceling interviews left and right in the waning days of his
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campaign, but still found time to appear on a conservative podcast earlier today where he blamed ukraine's president for his country getting invaded by russia. >> i think zelenskyy is one of the greatest salesman i've ever seen. every time he comes in we give him $100 million. who else got that kind of money in history? there has never been and that does not mean i don't want to help him, because i feel very badly for those people, but he should never have let that war start. >> michelle goldberg is an opinion columnist for the new york times. her latest column is titled america is on the brink of political realignment. and the cofounder and executive director of a more perfect union. they join me now. first of all i will start with a somewhat superficial but to me legitimate thing. he sounds really weird, donald trump. he has this brando apocalypse
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now thing going on with his voice. the trains of thought of gotten shorter and shorter and he is doing a lot of media, mostly with friendly outlets like that podcast, but when you look at the answer it is nonsense. >> if you printed it in the newspaper verbatim it would look like it was a random word generator and i still think that we, the collective we, are under reacting to that bizarro musical event that he did the other night. if joe biden had done anything remotely similar, for five minutes, nevermind 40 minutes, swaying on a stage while playing music and saying nothing while everyone pretended it was normal and looked around awkwardly and figured out how to respond. the calls for joe biden to get out of the race. the calls for anyone else to get out of the race. our ability to understand or talk about what is normal is so
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out of whack and obviously, trump is pretty far down the list of why you should not be president. nevertheless there is something going on here. >> i joked the other day that it is a little like the food is terrible and the portions are too small. >> someone who can't accomplish anything. >> it is interesting to me. there is always a choice with trump on what you're heading him on and there are two things. when they have really been going on the democracy stuff. the threats he has been making. january 6, hammering that. at the same time the ads they are running are very meat and potatoes. is going to give billionaires a tax cut and we will look out for middle-class votes. it seems like they are covering both lanes in different ways. what do you think? >> i think you are right about
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the ad strategy. i want to see more of it as an appeal to working-class people. when you look at the evidence they have done and you've got mark cuban today and efforts to speak to crypto. i understand we have a big tent and need to appeal to everybody, but bernie sanders, aoc, working-class people. shawn fain. i think she will do an event with him tomorrow, but don't lose that. biden worked best when it was all of the above. in a recent column, the old quote of 2016 in which democratic leaders were sang for every working-class vote we lose in western pa we will gain to in suburban philadelphia. that was wrong and why? because that is a big bucket. you want to fight for that bucket. >> the thing about this realignment, look. everyone is swimming upstream, so the realignments happen and the biden administration has done a ton and by realignment i
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mean noncollege voters moving to maga across racial and demographic lines. women, particularly single women with degrees and advanced degrees moving to democrats. the question of what do you do with that? it is the question for both campaigns. >> right, you go to war with the coalition you have, not the coalition you want and so i think joe biden had a theory of the case which is democrats of lost working-class, have been bleeding working-class support because of economic policies. because of nafta, because of free trade, because of off shoring, all of these things and he is going to start making the investments that a pro- worker democratic party needs to make. having the policy that a pro- worker democratic party needs to make and those things i think are correct regardless of the political benefits.
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it could just be that it takes a much longer time to rebuild that kind of trust, but kamala harris does not have a much longer time and so there really are -- there were not enough disaffected republicans to save hillary clinton in 2016, but there are a significant block of them. the reason arizona is now dominated by democrats when it used to be dominated by republicans and where democrats are still the third largest -- third smallest party in the state. >> how much trump is doing media and talking to media. there are different views on this. one school is more attention for him the better, because that is the thing he feeds off. the other is the more attention the worse because when he is in their face people don't like them that much. he is doing friendly media and canceling interviews. where are you on that down the stretch because this is a key
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point? >> i tend to believe that a majority of americans are not for trump. 81 million votes against him last time. i would like to believe that would still remain the case. i think they know that they have a cap, too. for them the cost of being mocked by critics is less because it is baked in with the sense that they need to mobilize a certain number of people they have identified and he will continue to say whatever he will say and somehow try to mobilize that base and that is who they are talking to and there is less persuasion. whereas for kamala harris having gone through michigan and wisconsin i think people are open to her. even in union hall's they were not sold fully. the case for her is stronger and that is why i don't want to see us lose on talking to these folks. even you and i have watched her try to distance herself from biden. there is a way you do that.
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housing costs. as one of my first things i will go after this. i wish he had gone stronger on social security. i wish he raised the minimum wage. that is a way that you can do it that appeals to these voters we need to. >> it is interesting how much housing has been central, although i also at this point remain skeptical about how much policy matters, truly. i would like it to, but it is not clear as an empirical matter. >> it may not be policy, but it is a knowledge and understanding of i know your life, i know what you're going through. >> michelle goldberg and faiz shakir, thanks a lot. still ahead the mastermind of the october 7 at taxes killed by israel in gaza. what it means for the war in gaza, next. no mask. no hose. just sleep. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com
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today israel confirmed that yahya sinwar was eliminated. this moment gives us an
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opportunity to finally end the war in gaza. and it must end such that israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in gaza ends, and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination. the head of hamas and mastermind of the october 7th attacks is dead. sinwar, top target for the military managed to evade capture for over a year until now. israel announced they killed him during a firefight in gaza that was not targeted towards him. not like they figured out where he was and went after him. the israel military released the footage that claims shows sinwar before he was killed. throwing a stick in defiance at a drone that flew into the apartment where he was. they have not confirmed this
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video shows him. author detailed his time in israeli prisons and speaking to people who knew him including israeli dentist that treated prisoners in and spent hundreds of hours talking to him. the doctor asked him if achieving his goals were worth the lives of many innocent people israels and palestinians, he replied we are ready to sacrifice 20,000, 30,000, 40,000. >> it is called quiet notes from the underground." i want to encourage people to read it. the best over the conflict over the past year. what did, what is the meaning of today for this conflict that after a year of evading what we are very, very intense efforts to get him, sinwar is now dead. >> reporter: well, the meaning, obviously is that the architect of october 7th, the chief
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leader of hamas in gaza is no more and he was a maximalist of negotiations of hostages and much else. the meaning beyond that depends very great deal on israeli leadership. you showed kamala harris saying that this was a great opportunity for a breakthrough. the words of benjamin netanyahu were slightly different. he said that this is not over. now, what he means by that is unclear. does he mean that the battle with hezbollah and iran or extend it to gaza? he was purposefully vague in this. as you know he has a got a very, very extreme coalition in power. that he caters to and plays off of the rest of the political situation in israel. that remains to be seen, chris. >> he was part of the military
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arm. some of the political leadership, in exile and that given him a kind of credibility. he there was in gaza. he was also a maximalist and believer in violence as the means of resistance. at moments when there were debates between hamas about maybe changing. about maybe a more sort of a different approach, internal fights, he was the hard-liner. the question is, after this brutal year of so much death and destruction with, i think, a lot of hamas leadership decimated. what, what, what is after that? one level you can say, well, you know, great, something better will come. others you look at afghanistan and found the taliban fighting isis were even more violent. >> right. >> reporter: let's be under no illusions, what happened since
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october 7th and the death of 40,000 people in gaza, palestinians will be felt for years to come. the question is, there are many questions here. regional and internal and in israel and in gaza. let's start with gaza. i think hatred and grief abounds in gaza. and for good reason. and i think it spreads both to the israelis for this assault after october 7th that has gone on for a year. and death of so many women and children and civilians as well it is interesting the last time that i was in and foreign reporters, i should stipulate, foreign reporters are not getting into gaza for coming longer than a few hours embedded. when i was in the west bank i sentenced greater support in
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some areas for hamas than in gaza where the main suffering is. i am not saying there is no suffering, to say the least in the west bank. so, this has, what did sinwar want? let's begin with that. sinwar wanted to do many things and he succeeded at them not only to have this kind of enormous attack coming out of gaza and into israel proper, but he was hoping that it would inspire a regional conflict because he saw that they were making agreements with israel. to some extent he succeeded being on october 8th hezbollah started firing in israel and going back and forth and back and forth and then now of course a ground invasion in lebanon. we have had back and forth between iran for the first time and israel itself. so, how it ends is still very, very much up in the air.
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i would hope to be perfectly honest that, that what remains of sane heads would seize it as an opportunity to bring down senses, the killing, that is so terrible. but, it is, there are a lot of moving parts here. one of them is the american election as well. i don't think it is a stretch to say that benjamin netanyahu has a favorite in this election. >> meaning? >> it is not kamala harris. >> yes. not kamala harris >> yeah. finally in the last minute here, to your point, it was very clear today that the biden statement, kamala harris and benjamin netanyahu were not on the same page, right? this has been clear. they say look, here is an opportunity to bring this to a close. and benjamin netanyahu is saying we are not done. and that feels like waiting for, we have gone through this now ever week for a year.
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>> reporter: i think the americans want deescalation, benjamin netanyahu sees this as a war on seven fronts. not only iran, hezbollah, gaza but militias in iraq and houthis in yemen and syria and he, he wants to bring it to a conclusion to some degree. now how it can be done, without ongoing regional war is, to me, the most profound question here. >> bitter irony being exactly that regional that was an aim of that massacre and bloodshed on october 7th. david, thank you very much, appreciate it. >> thank you. that is "all in" on this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. good evening my friend. extraordinary day in a war that never seems to end >> yeah. >> thank you,

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