for the voters of arizona? >> well for the voters of arizona it's whether or not you're going to have somebody who is actually going to fight for you or divide you and other arizonans in order to get power because that's what kari lake will do, she will do and say anything just to get power than of course we all lose as a state, it's also if you are a woman, are you going to have safe access to abortion? i'm running against somebody who said that in 1864 abortion ban which had no exceptions was a great law. and then was sad when she found out the, was asking for sheriffs to enforce the abortion ban this is somebody who is extremely dangerous and cannot be trusted with a vote in the senate so having me there is another safety net to make sure that women have a right to abortion. >> your opponent, kari lake donald trump's endorsed candidate says i do not believe in abortion, abortion is the

ultimate sin. so that couldn't be clearer for arizona voters about the difference between you on that issue. >> well, you know what we have to keep on communicating to make sure we do understand that because she has tried to lie and change her position so many times that we don't actually really track it so for those that want to know more about her please go to gallego for arizona.com or to support us if you get the message out about her please go to gallego for arizona because we need to continue to inform people about how dangerous she is. when it comes to abortion rights, she will be for an outright abortion ban. >> what is the closing issue for your campaign in the final days? >> well, we are going to continue talking about the freedoms that are at threat, number one the freedom again for women to control their bodies. number two, our actual opportunity at freedom when it comes to being able to have jobs that actually create you

know a living situation where you can actually pay the rent and you can continue to live the american dream. we also talk about the fact that we need to make sure that we are preserving democracy one of the reasons why we have been very successful i think in getting a lot of republicans to cross over and support us is because they understand at the core that i still believe what i did at the age of 20 which is to hold that my right hand and swear to protect the constitution of the united states and understand that there is a severe threat like kari lake who will deny that 2020 election and deny the 2024 election only to get the more power, they will divide us americans in order for them to get more power and use it for themselves. and that is a closing message that we are here to fight for arizona families and they are there to fight for themselves so they can end up profiting for themselves and not for your family in arizona. >> arizona senate candidate, ruben gallego thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. new book, the message is

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that we haven't figured out in 10,000 years and so i applaud that and your writing is always is so beautiful and moving so thank you so much for being here. the message, ta-nehisi coates. >> that takes care of the quickest and most articulate way to deal with my review of our next guest's new book because i agree with jon stewart word for word, with all the attention the book is received you might not know that ta-nehisi coates's book, the message tells three stories and only one of them is about israel. we will try in our limited time tonight to discuss each of these stories which takes us from africa to south carolina to israel, each of these stories is worth a minimum of an hour of tv discussion itself and please take this discussion as an invitation to actually read the book in full if there is anything you hear now that interests you because a book

can never be judged by reviews and can never be judged by discussions about the book or discussions by or about the author. i saw some criticisms of the book that i thought might be valid until i read the book. you might have valid criticisms after reading the book but please do not get tricked into the intellectualism of finding fault with the book that you have not read. i have been to each of the three places described in this book and my understanding of those places has been deepened and enhanced by what ta-nehisi coates sees and feels there. the book begins with africa. years ago, after what i think was my seventh trip to africa. i wrote africa grabs your heart as soon as you get off the plane and doesn't give it back at the airport when you leave. that's not just my experience that's what i've heard from every american who makes a first trip to africa. this is some of what ta-nehisi coates saw and felt on his first day in africa on the atlantic coast of senegal from

the audiobook. >> for the first of many times in my trip, i looked out on the atlantic ocean, now mere feet away. from my table, i could see the waves breaking gently against the beach. a memory from the other side now washed over me. i am 10 and with my mother in berlin, maryland at the far end of the state eastern shore. on this trip, we are staying with my aunt top he and my uncle melvin. we visit cousins and other aunts and uncles, all of whom seem to live along the same small country road. then we drive to the ocean and i take a blue and yellow inflatable raft and wade out into the breakers, away from america. and now, decades later, here i am staring back from the other side. >> joining us now is ta-nehisi coates, author of them bestseller, the message, thank

you for joining us tonight. i want to begin concentrating on this first part of the book because it is such an important story and i've heard a version of it always less eloquent and less brilliantly put by every american i know who first sets put in africa. >> i think that's because, because the history of slavery ways so much and because our perceptions of africa in the midst of africa, justifies and informs that system. i don't know that there is another place in the world that you can go that has that kind of narrative weight and that much stuff that you have to sift through to see what is actually there. and for african americans themselves this is doubly so. because in our hearts we carry the weight of that mythology and carry the weight of all

those negative things and those negative ideas you were taken from the wilds of africa where you were nothing, did nothing. and you should be lucky to be here. and to go back and to try to see the place as a place where human beings live. where human beings do things and normal human things you know? and at the same time, at the place where we were born at the site of our debt in some sense and creation in another sense. >> imagine you are passing through jfk and you meet some african-americans who are on their way to africa for the very first time, and because this is tv that's why i have created it like this you only have a minute. they want your advice about what they are going to experience when they get there. >> oh, man, try not to see the ghosts, look past the ghosts and see the people. >> i mean your ancestors and everything that you left, that

was the hardest thing and that was that excerpt and what it was about, it was the fact that i felt like i was making a pilgrimage to the grave of like some great uncle who was really important to my family and as i said saying the book, it was not actually until the end that i could begin to see the people in senegal people in and of themselves and not artifacts of my memory. >> that's what the books do, crosses the ocean to one of those states where slaves were brought to south carolina. where you go to south carolina because your book one of your books has been banned at a school in south carolina. and you write about what you think that's all about, let's listen to it. >> i thought how it all works

not simply to misinform but to miss educate. not just to assure the right answers are memorized but that the wrong questions are never asked. and i thought about myself back in baltimore. and what i was being trained for. i was saved by the books in my house. by the implicit message that learning does not belong exclusively in schools. who would i be left to the devices of those who seek to shrink education? to make it an pliable, i don't know but i know what i would not be, a writer. >> you make the point with a couple lines down that your view of all these confederate monuments and this attempt to limit white students in south carolina from being exposed to anything about slavery or any of your kinds of writing. is as not so much or as much as glorifying the past that it might be it is to rob people of their future. >> and i don't think it's an

accident and i've had a lot of time to think about this there is so much weight on books, books are dangerous because people's children take them into their room and they have their own relationship with them. you know one that the parents can't interfere in because it begins with your imagination interfacing with the words and you have this unique relationship with the books, it's this private space. and so it's very powerful. some author from way up here in new york city can write something and you know what i mean and your child can interface with that and have their own sort of relationship lessons and morals etc., my parents thought that was beautiful. my parents were not afraid of that. i was raised in a household with the idea that you would have your own imaginative space. it was a beautiful thing but if you were somebody that was interested in hierarchy or somebody that was interested in organizing the world in the way that it was organizing you as a child, i understand why that could be dangerous. >> we will squeeze in a break

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soldiers sort of calls up and says, hey, hey, come quickly, i need your help. and i got there, and the situation was a father standing with his daughter in his own home trying to take her to the bathroom. and my soldier was standing there with his gun cocked in the face of the father and his daughter is standed there between his legs petrified. when i got there, she had lrd peed her pants. that was sort of one of those moments where i was like, what the f are we doing, who is this for? >> yeah, people may have heard some of the criticism, no, i spent ten days there. five days was led by a group of palestinians, most of my guides, and the next five days was israelis a lot of them former idf veterans who were taking me to places where they actually had been on patrol for -- during the second. and it was very, very educational for whatever reason

of geopolitics or whatever, the perspective i have been most -- and i think most of us are most exposed to is the perspective of, i guess israeli nobility. you know, problems are waved away with complication but not the kind of complication that can be comprehended. and so for me to see how stark the moral challenges were over there, not that easy to solve, but the clarity of the morality was surprising to me and quite shocking. >> the answer that you would get is certainly from israeli government officials and from many israeli citizens, the answer to that, what are we doing here, is this is what we have to do for our security. this is what we have to do to prevent them from coming through our door. >> yeah, see, i mean, the problem with that is as a child of jim crow and a child of enslavement, i've heard that

before. people really should read the reasons people used to justify slavery and to justify jim crow. it was not we are evil. it was safety. it was almost always safety. thomas jefferson says we have the wolf by the ear. he's describing the -- like i'm the wolf, the enslaved person is the wolf. that's the dangerous thing. when people made appeals for why jim crow and segregation had to remain, they pointed to crime rates. it was the idea if we take this down, we will not be safe. and i am pretty sure that if you went and researched the reasons for apartheid in south africa, it's the same thing. doing the right thing is sometimes not safe. that is not, you know, to disregard israeli life, that's not to disregard palestinian life, but we are all called not just to think about our physical safety but the safety of our souls too. and what i saw over there offended that. >> that word you just used, apartheid in south africa, the

first time i heard apartheid used was from israelis and israeli politicians. one was then serving as netanyahu's defense minister said, as long as this territory west of the jordan river, there is only one political entity called israel is going to be either nonjewish or nondemocratic. if this bloc of millions of palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state. and i have to tell you, when i was working in the united states senate in the 1990s, there were senators who were privately saying this to the israeli government, and there were many israeli government officials who were worried about making sure we steer away from an apartheid state. >> yeah. and we're in one now. as you just read, this is a former prime minister. you can add to that the reports of multiple human rights organizations from amnesty international to al hock to bet salem, and the testimony of the people i talked to over there.

i heard one of the criticisms being, to niece -- i was a little puzzled when i returned about why there was so much debate over this. there seems to be broad agreement. you know, across that that is actually what has happened. >> i haven't heard you say this is the only thing anyone should read about israel. >> it's absolutely not the only thing anyone should read about israel. >> bob was here monday night, and there's a passage in there that's very strong. it's very emotional. it's someone speaking to president biden from -- a member of the war cabinet when he was in israel. and he said -- his basic message was, to the president, that jews didn't come to israel to hide. that was his statement. he was talking about his own daughter, who has a hiding place at home in case the worst

happens. and after october 7th, the fear is all over the country that that could happen anywhere. and it seemed to me it captured the intensity of the emotion that israelis are living with now. >> and i understand that. and that's a very, very real thing. my politics are humanist politics. they are not to disregard the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of any human being. be they israeli or be they palestinian. and so i i just, i know this is not popular to say, but i am forced to say that as concerned as we should be about the legacy of october 7th and the victims of october 7th, we have to be concerned about the legacy of october 5th, october 4th, october 1st and what gaza was before and our contribution to making gaza that way. >> ta-nehisi coates, the new book is called the message. it is already a best seller. i can't thank you enough for joining us tonight. >> thank you for talking about the whole book. >> someone had to do it. >> thank you, thank you.

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