childhood poverty in america, enormously -- supporting the pro act, enormous one. expanding medicare to cover health care, big, big deal. you've got to emotionally not just report those good ideas. you've got to say, you know what? i am prepared to take on it big money interests. i am on your side. the next time there's a strike like joe biden, i will be there on the picket line. i understand that you can't afford health care. i will be there. we're all going to join the rest of the industrialized world. maybe not tomorrow but we will to guarantee health care to every man, woman, and child. but emotionally i think working class people got to say, hey, see that lady there? she's on my side, she's got my vote. trump is out there, he has his enemies. you know, going after undocumented people. they are the cause of every problem in the history of

america. well, what is our explanation as to why 60% of people are struggling economically and living paycheck to paycheck? and we have to identify corporate greed and the massive level of income and wealth inequality we now see. kamala does that, i think she's going to win a whole lot more working class people. >> senator bernie sanders of vermont, thank you for your time, sir. really appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come, j.d. vance tries to down-play his boss' fascist rhetoric while the boss himself keeps going for it. but first, a major milestone as israel's military kills the leader of hamas. we're going to discuss what that means for the chances of a cease-fire with my colleague ayman mohyeldin. that's next. ayman mohyeldin. that's next. tresemme flawless curls defining mousse. 24 hour. hydrating curl definition. style your life the way you want. ♪♪

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new drone video shows the moment just before israel says the leader of hamas, the architect of the october 7th terror attack, was killed. in the footage released by the israeli military the idf says yah yah sinwar can be seen with his lands blown off. according to an official overnight there was a fierce battle in southern gaza. israeli troops had no idea s

simwar. >> today in a stunning announcement the israeli announced it had killed yahya simwar while nearly 100 hostages remain captive. today some of their families took to the streets in israel to demand prime minister netanyahu secure a cease-fire deal to release the hostages. hours ago vice president kamala harris expressed optimism that simwar's death might finally do just that. >> israel has a right to defend itself, and the threat hamas poses to israel must be eliminated. today there is clear progress toward that goal. hamas is decimated and its leadership is eliminated. this moment gives us an opportunity to finally end the

war in gaza. >> in tandem with that, president biden said he is dispatching secretary of state antony blinken to israel in hopes that an agreement to end the war is near. prime minister netanyahu, however, is throwing cold-water on all that. in a statement today he declared the war is not yet over. joining me now is ayman mohyeldin, hays of "ayman" on msnbc and someone who's spent years reporting on the ground in the middle east. ayman, it's great to see you. i have a sense how optimistic you are about a cease-fire deal actually coming together. we've seen time and time again this administration expressed either words of caution directly towards israel, optimism the end a near. we are seeing that once again netanyahu appears to be in a different place on this. how hopeful are you the end of war is in sight? >> i'm not hopeful. there's optimism now that hamas'

leadership is destroyed. one, israel still needs to secure the hostages. it is unclear right now, and i think this is a very important question that is getting a little bit lost today, and that is where are the hostages? for the last couple of months we've been told by the israelis through this narrative he was underground in the tunnels surrounded by israeli hostages making it impossible to either rescue the hostages or kill him because it would jeopardize the safety and life of the hostages. well, that narrative seems to have now vanished, it has faltered because in the videos we saw he was alone, he was fighting. he died in that house. there were no hostages around him. the israelis have come out and said that. if you do find the hostages, who are you going to negotiate to find the hostages? all of them have been killed. the question who's on the ground going to physically negotiate with you about the release of

these hostages. >> you're so right to point out the circumstances of his death he's out there and i believe killed by idf trainees, right? this is all seemingly incredibly haphazard how it happens. it doesn't seem like israel has any intelligence it's even simwar when they're engaged in a fire fight with him. >> again, that's why there's a lot of questions need to be asked about the intelligence israel has done in gaza over the past year. no doubt israel has targeted specific people, but if it has just been destroy gaza and kill everybody who's in there like we saw today in this random way you come across the leader of hamas, it really raises questions what are you actually doing, what are you actually targeting at this point in the process? i want to go back to your second point -- a point you brought up and a second point where does the war go from here? there's momentum right now to look at the region and say you've destroyed and killed hamas' leadership.

you've weakened and destroyed hezbollah's leadership. this is the moment to seize that initiative and go after iran. there are people who say this is the window in which we can use this change, this dynamic change happening in the region to goal after iran and bring about regime change netanyahu himself has been advocating for for years with the support of the united states. >> you mention top hamas negotiators have all been executed, they've been killed. does that? i mean who fills that vacuum? is it more extreme voices? where does the next extreme negotiator come from? >> if you look at the trajectory of hamas' leadership over the cast of the past 15 years it has gradually gotten more extreme, more militant, less pragmatic. hamas members said that to jimmy carter. jimmy carter is on the record saying that as something that's not a secret.

that was on the table at one point. it's hard to imagine now hamas' leadership, which has gotten gradually more militant, more extreme is going to come back to the negotiating table. more importantly, it's going to be interesting to see who emerges as a leader in an organization that has credibility what is happening inside gaza but at the same time can command the organization extraordinarily. >> right, that's a huge question at this stage of the game. ayman mohyeldin, thank you for coming and visiting on set in such a kind of critical moment for all of us. heyman's show airs weekends at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. coming up, elon musk tells a pennsylvania crowd if kamala harris wins there won't be swing states anymore because she will legalize so many illegals. that's dark maga for you. we're going to talk to someone who was on the ground for that coming up. but first trump declares january 6th as a day of love.

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trump references the enemy from within. would a trump administration use the military to go after people who oppose donald trump? >> oh, of course not. of course not. look, when -- when you go back to the summer -- look, ma'am, i'm glad you asked the question because i think it's so preposterous. >> it's the guy in the brick

suit that does it for me. j.d. vance today said it would be preposterous to believe that trump would turn the american military against the american people. what was it that trump said this weekend, again? >> the people from within, we have some very bad people. we have some sick people, radical left lunatics. and i think they're -- and they should be very easily handled by -- if necessary by national guard or if really necessary by the military. >> just checking. j.d. vance is trying his best to down-play just how extreme trump's rhetoric has become and to appeal to voters more broadly or at least more constitutionally. meanwhile, trump continues to just double down. listen to the question trump got from a former registered republican at the univision town hall last night. >> i am a republican no longer registered, though.

i want to give you the opportunity to try to win back my vote, okay? your i'd say action and maybe inaction during your presidency and the last few years sort of, you know, was a little disturbing to me. you know, what happened during january 6th and the fact you waited so long to take action while your supporters were attacking the capitol. if you would answer these questions for me i would really appreciate it and give you the opportunity. your own vice president doesn't want to support you now. >> that's called an off-ramp. trump was essentially handed an opportunity to distance himself from the whole fascism thing and in turn appeal to the sort of voters who enjoy the u.s. constitution. but instead, he did this. >> the vice president i disagree with him on what he did.

i totally disagreed with him what he did. very importantly you had hundreds of thousands of people come to washington. they didn't come because of me. they came because of the election. they thought the election was a rigged election, and that's why they came. some of those people went down to the capitol i said peacefully and patriotically. nothing done wrong. at all nothing done wrong. and action was taken, strong action. ashley babbitt was killed. nobody was killed. there were no guns down there. the others had guns but we didn't have guns. when i see we, these were people who walked down. these were a tiny percentage of the overall which nobody sees and nobody shows. but that was a day of love. >> a day of love. also, did you notice how trump referred to the january 6th rioters as we, and the police as the others? the party of law and order, ladies and gentlemen. luckily for us the man who asked

that question, ramiro gonzalez, spoke to univision's local new york station after the town hall. here is what he thought of trump's response. >> from undecided former registered republican to i'm not going to vote for him in one answer. and if you think trump's answers are off put, wait until you hear his newest campaign surrogate, elon musk. that story is next. ogate, elon musk. that story is next

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is so important to the future of the world. >> that is the world's richest man, elon musk, speaking earlier today in philadelphia, urging the assembled crowd to vote for former president trump. musk also found time to mention jeffrey epstein's client list and to spread conspiracy theories about dominion voting machine. joining me now is teddy shiefler, he covers campaign for "the new york times." you were there today, right? >> i was. >> what was it like in the crowd? >> in the crowd it was full of people of loyal folks you'd see at any trump rally, but then also a pretty unusual type of person. someone who's obsessed with crypto currency, people who were carrying copies of walter isaacson's elon musk biography. we had people very knowledgeable of tesla, "x," and share prices. elon musk is spectacle, right?

everything he does is breath lassly covered. he obviously has an enormous amount of power. and elon took his media profile and got people like me to cover it and the point is to take media attention and put it on pennsylvania, a state elon musk thinks is essential for saving democracy across the globe. >> first of all, how was he on the stump? he's not a political animal. this was his first big solo event. was he convincing, was he comfortable? what was it like? >> he's not a great public speaker. what i will admit the production value and optics of the whole thing, if you close your eyes you might think this guy was running for president of the united states. he walked out to "only in america" a song that's been at ted cruz rallies or a trump rallies for a long time. there was a moment he invited a

cute kid on stage and signed his hats. he was clearly entertained, almost smitten by kind of this delaware county local republican audience. yeah, you would think that this person is the candidate. and, look, he's not known for having a small ego, but he had a lot of fun. i wouldn't say he was great on the stump, but i don't know that's really you should judge him, i guess. >> you've done some great reporting on this. can you talk a little bit about elon musk's personal evolution in terms of his enthusiasm for trump, someone he wasn't even sure he wanted to endorse not that many months ago. >> yeah. you know, if you talk to elon musk a year ago this october, he was quietly very pro-ron desantis. if you talked to him six months ago he wasn't even really that pro-trump. this is someone who thinks america is dying if we do not get a grip on illegal immigration. and he became a pro-trump

fanatic in part because he was getting lots of attention. he was getting access to trump. trump himself almost feels mesmerized by elon. as we now know elon has put $75 million to a pro-trump super-pac. but this was not his position a year ago. elon, i think, has been somewhat radicalized in realtime. we see his tweets, how he talks about politics, about immigration, the border, about crime. to some extent this is such a pretty simple story. you can just see his replies to random egg heads on the internet and you can understand what motivates him, and that was a lot of what he talked about today in pennsylvania. >> it's the evolution of a red cal because on the fence support for trump, and full throated support for trump and now an embrace of the wack adoo conspiracy theories.

>> it was funny there was a point i thought elon reeled it in. at one point there's a delaware county activist trying to give him a book about election fraud. you can tell his interest was peaked. the politician is intrigued by the hat but they know they wouldn't put the hat on. elon would not take the book and afterwards i talked to the guy who tried to hand him the book and he said elon handled it like a politician, which he did. >> in the audience for dark maga, first time solo. thanks for your time, teddy. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. this war can end tomorrow. it can end if hamas lays