that's a real threat this time around. the blow said, deliberately sitting this election out. >> i tend to think that sometimes people who are the last deciders, you know, they are not huge information consumers. might be cynical about government and they just want to know, what do you fight for? and sometimes, it is just important to pick the right fights. and in my view, some of the partisan fights, have limited value. you're running for president against him. you don't like him, he doesn't like you, that is understood. so what are the other animating fights? and i tend to live in the place and the belief of working-class fights where corporate power is at play. this is why biden got a lot of success at fighting big pharma. utilizing the powers of his agency to take on corporate abuses of all times, such as inflation. you remember all of these things. taking on the corporate tax system, issuing a billionaire tax cut, eliminating that i

have other fights but a partisan one with donald trump. i think it will be important to her. that's why i like the corporate predatory price gouging she has talked about. even if you say you're going to build houses in america, it's not just building houses. i'm also prepared and willing to take on fights to build housing. other things come easy. if you want paid leave in america, they require fights. and you want to animate that. i'm willing to take on some of those on your behalf. >> things are joining us tonight. coming up, the stunning contrast between harris and trump's position on labor unions. were going to get into that on the other side of the break. br.

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>> donald trump's track record is a disaster for working people. and he is, i believe, an existential threat to america's labor movement. >> vice president kamala harris spoke to members of the united auto workers union earlier tonight in lansing, michigan. she went after donald trump's record on labor. it follows trump's comments earlier this week, claiming that autoworkers in the united states don't actually build cars, you just take them out of a box and assemble them, adding that a child could do it. this isn't the first time trump has expressed antilabor views, and get it comes in a curious moment when we are seeing a decline in union support for harris this year despite the fact that the biden/harris administration has been more supportive of unions in any administration since fdr.

20 now it's fred redman, secretary-treasurer of the afl- cio. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> tell me what's happening in the labor movement vis-@-vis kamala harris. because this administration has been key to -- to some of the union activities that are been going on and organized labor in the country in the last few years, in some cases being the portable striking workers like the uaw, and in some cases helping avoid some strikes like the teamsters at u.p.s. and in some cases trying to find agreement like the dockworkers. what is happening here? why is kamala harris not seeming to fully benefit from unions of work? >> well, let me just say this -- and i don't know i completely agree with the premise within 24 hours after president biden to the courageous thing and stepped out of the race, we held a meeting of our executive council of the afl-cio. the afl-cio is a labor

representation of 60 labor unions throughout this country with a combined total of 12.5 million members. and within 24 hours after president biden stepped out of the race, our president convened a meeting of our executive council and, you know, 99% of those present unanimously supported kamala harris for president. and since then, we have been working the ground. we have the largest ground game we have ever had in the his three of the afl-cio, and we are in a very unique situation. i mean, because our process is something that no other organization, no candidate, or no party have. we have the ability to touch workers, to talk to workers at their doorsteps, but also on the job. and what we are doing is, we are talking to our members one on one.

we are having discussions with them. and by no means is a labor movement monolithic, what we are doing is comparing the records of these two candidates to our members, holding those one-on-one discussions at the worksite, and we see a big shift toward harris. we see a lot of momentum with very optimistic, and you know, we was able to really move the needle. the union made the difference in 2020. we made the difference in 2022, and we think our program is going to make the difference in 2024. and the program is simple. when you give working people the facts, when you tell working people the truth, when you compare the records of the two candidates to working people, the working people generally make the right decision in terms of which candidate they are going to support. and that is what we see happening in this race. >> i hear what you're saying. afl-cio, a lot of unions have

done what you describe. some did it as fast as you, others took a little more time. but then there are others that haven't. that is not come around. and the polling does indicate -- maybe it's not reliable -- that will most union members are supporting kamala harris, there doesn't to be payback for the idea that this is been an administration that has been solidly behind organized labor and collective bargaining. president biden and vice president harris make reference to it all the time. they asked about whether they would invoke the government to bring the dockworkers back, they said, no. this is for collective bargaining to take care of. >> that's right. and we respect collective bargaining. and as a result of the hands- off approach by the biden administration, we was able to secure a collective bargaining agreement with the international longshoremen's. look, collective bargaining works. you know, there are sometimes when the government would play an important role, and there's

time when people need to step back and let the process work. the collective bargaining is the foundation of the union movement, and we believe in collective bargaining. there is a time and place for the government to get involved, and there's a time when the government needs to step back. now, look. what is unique about the labor movement is we have 50 state afl-cio, we have 435 central labor councils and area labor councils in cities and communities throughout this country. and, you know, what was amazing was within hours after the teamsters -- which are not members of the afl-cio, and we highly respect their process. we greatly respect their process, and we respect the teamsters as a union. but within hours after the

teamsters decided not to do an endorsement, there was a significant shift toward harris by local unions throughout the country. the teamsters are one of the largest local unions. and also by the entire black caucus. and that's because of our ability to have local federations, local bodies were a lot of unions like the teamsters are members of, and we deliver messages that resonate throughout the union and communities. >> fred, we appreciate you shedding light on this. fred redman is the associate treasurer of the afl-cio. thanks for being with us tonight. still ahead, this year one democrat has a chance to do something no democrat has accomplished since 1994 -- win a statewide race in texas. i'm going to talk to colin allred, a democratic congressman running to unseat tentative ted cruz about his

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i'm the exact opposite of senator cruz, who is the most extreme senator in the united states today. maybe the most extreme in the last 30 years. but that's not enough. he is also only focus on himself. that is how you can go to cancun when millions of texans need you and hundreds are dying.

the truth is we don't have to be embarrassed by our senator. we can get a new one. that is what this election is all about. that is what i am asking texans to give me a chance to do. >> during a debate on tuesday, it congressman colin all red tore into senator ted cruz, reminding voters that they are not necessarily stuck with cruz. this year democrats seem to have a shot at flitting residency. cruz and allred are separated by one percentage point right now, well within the margin of error. the pressure is on right now for allred to do something democrats have tried to do an estate for a long time, turning purple. joining and now is democratic congressman colin allred, candidate for u.s. senate in texas. thanks for being with us tonight. this is always tricky in texas. because sometimes people get close and there is an energy about the fact that it's going to happen, it's going to happen, and something goes weird. so where are you now, with 18 days to go in this election. you are closing in. this race is really, really tight. were you thinking? >> well, thank you for having

me on. i'm here in austin. and this is not going to be about our past here in texas. this is about our future. and a very fundamental choice do we have to make, with a senator who, for 12 years, has shown is exactly who he is, and what he is not interested in doing, which is representing the people of this state. that is how you can go to cancun when folks need you most. that is how you can try to work to overthrow the american presidential election, take away a woman's right to choose. versus someone like me, who is been the most bipartisan texan in congress, who has a record of getting things done for our stay, and who wants to serve all 30 million of us. so i know that our past is something that is interesting to folks. but i think texans are much more interested in our future, and who can service for the next six years. >> across the country, organizations like real clear politics, or cook political reporter are shifting things. and a lot of people are concerned that it looks like they are shifting towards donald trump in small measure. cook political report took your state from being likely republican to lean republican. that sort of one less for ted cruz. what is going on, and why is that happening in the state? what is happening now that is

different from six months ago? >> yeah, i think, in part, they are just now recognizing the objective reality of what we have known for months in texas, which is that this is an incredibly close race. but we are building a broad coalition. one that includes, of course, democrats, but also independence, and republicans. every single day i talked to a texan who is texan telling me that they have never voted for a democrat before but they are getting involved with my campaign. i was here campaigning with liz cheney not long ago in dallas. my friend, adam can figure, has been helping out. we are building a broad coalition, one that leads in our state, our democracy, and our constitution. and when that is going to kick ted cruz out of office. >> i'm not too far from you, i am in phoenix. and like texas, arizona is one of those places where immigration and the border are real concerns. reproductive rights are real concerns. obviously the cost of living is a real concern. what are you hearing from your constituents and people who you

want to get to vote for you, about what is really driving them and what is likely to make the decision for them on november 5th? >> yeah, in texas we have been experiencing a near-total ban on abortion, what that looks like. and there are so many brave texas women, whether it is kate cox, dr. austin, lauren miller, taylor edwards, i could keep going and keep going, unfortunately. because there are so many brave texas women who have come forward and told their family stories about what impacts this is been having. and telling it in a way that i think texans are really starting to understand. and to fundamentally understand that this is an issue of freedom. the freedom has been taken away in this state, by ted cruz. this is his abortion ban . and that by beating him we can restore this freedom. and of course, there are many other concerns. rising costs. we do have to secure the border. ted cruz has prevented us from doing that. we do have to protect medicare and social security. there are a lot of things that

are important. this fundamental freedom is also one that i think is driving so much of what is happening here. and for anyone who is watching this wants to restore that freedom, i hope you will go to colin allred.com. and get involved with us. we are going to be ted cruz, make roe v wade the law of the land, and restore this freedom to texas women. >> talk about the border for a second. you said that ted cruz in border policy is worse than nothing. he treats his border amenities like he is going on some sort of safari. what do you mean by that? >> as i said in the debate, my family is from brownsburg, texas. which is the tip of texas. my grandfather was a customs officer there. and there is nothing worse than coming down to the valley, going to one of our border communities, and just pointing out problems but not being a part of solutions. because then you are using them like they are a political black drop. you are there to take your photo shoot, and just get out of there. or, like i said in the debate, to be on a safari and put on your outdoor close, and try to look tough, but never be part of the solution.

we had a bill come up in the united states senate for $20 billion, for 1500 new border patrol officers and 100 new immigration judges, and 4000 new asylum personnel and the technology to catch fentanyl. and you say no to it because you think you are more important than our state? our border communities also understand that, as well. that is why we are going to vote him out. it is really acceptable, and you can't have a senator that think that their election or their short-term political interest is more important than 30 million texans. >> congressman, good to see you. thanks for joining us tonight. congressman colin allred of texas. will make him back, i will bring a little bit of our conversation here in the battleground state of arizona who may be a key to a harris victory in our state. that is next. at is next. we were able to track our technician and knew exactly when he'd arrive. we can keep working! ♪ synth music ♪ >> woman: safelite came to us. >> tech: hi, i'm kendrick. >> woman: with a replacement we could trust. that's service the way we want it.

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they all identify deeply with the republican party, but not with what the parties values have become under donald trump. >> is it your view that you will remain a republican for time to come? >> you know, yes, in arizona. it is difficult to be an independent. i think in my heart of hearts that's what i would rather be, but to make any difference, like they were saying, you want to go and vote for the better republican candidate. and i think that's where it makes the most difference in arizona, for me. >> it is become easier and easier to not vote for people who don't stand for normal conservative principles, and instead deny election results, and try to justify an attempted coup in our country. you can't say that january 6th was a loving event where people got together and toward the capital. that is not reality.

>> you know, i am heartbroken about it. and i don't really know if i'm going to remain a republican, but i also feel like i am going to say i'm in no man's land. but now i'm in woman's land, because i am a harris supporter. so i just don't know if i'm going to be able to stay with the party and the republican party that i joined was a republican party that really respected the patriotism of the other and was not, remember, small government, not overreaching into your life or your life or your life. whether it is how you want to present or your identity, or it is your economic background, or it is your race, your culture, your faith. i was attracted to the republican party because it was less government. we were supposed to be getting out of people's lives and respecting how they choose to live. and respecting that in harmony. and we have become the overreach. we have become precisely the opposite.

>> rachel, danny, and bettina, three arizona republicans are having trouble recognizing their own party. will hear more from them and other arizona borders tomorrow morning, starting at 10:00 a.m. on in his obesity. and tomorrow will be committing a meeting of the delsea banned book club. her body of work has been starting conversations, capturing adolescent emotions, furthering women's sexual agency, and enraging book banners for decades. i will be talking with judy bloom. we will open the cover of forever, her seminal book about teenage love and sex , per first published in 1975, alongside the award-winning author jason reynolds, who has written a modern-day answer to that book, told from a boys perspective. 24 seconds for now, it is called. do not meet this beating of the banned book club at 10:00 a.m. eastern. now it is time for the last word with jonathan capehart, in for lawrence. we are covering the swin