like you, that is understood. what are the other animating sites likes i tend to live in a place, believe, working-class whites were corporate power is at play. why biden got a lot of success finding big pharma, utilizing the powers of his agency to take on corporate abuses of all kinds, whether junk fees, shrinkflation, you remember these things. taking on the corporate tax system, fighting the billionaire class, introducing -- other fights beyond partisan would donald trump i think is important to her, particularly the last bit. i like the corporate predatory price gouging she talked about. even if you say build houses in america, not just building houses, prepared and willing to take on fights to build housing, that is what people know and understand a lot of things don't come easy, paid leave, raise the minimum wage, that requires bites you want to animate i'm willing to fight for those on your behalf. >> good to see you tonight. coming up, the stunning

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donald trump's track record is a disaster for working people. and he is, i believe an existential threat to america's labor movement. >> vice president kamala harris spoke to members of the auto

workers union at lansing, michigan and went against her opponent. claiming the auto workers in the united states don't actually build cars, they took them out of a box and assemble them, adding that a child could do it not the first time trump has expressed anti- labor abuse and it comes at a curious moment when we see a decline in union support for harris fisher, despite the fact the biden/harris administration has been more supportive of unions than any administration since fdr. joining me is fred redman, secretary-treasurer of the -- it is good to see you, thank you for being with us tonight. >> tell me what is going on with the labor movement vis-@- vis kamala harris. this administration has been key to some of the union activities going on, organize labor in the country the last few years, in some cases supportive of striking workers like the uaw,

some cases avoiding some strikes like the teamsters at u.p.s. . in some cases, trying to find agreement like the dockworkers. what is happening here, why is kamala harris not seeming to benefit from union support? >> let me say this, i don't know if i completely agree with the premise within 24 hours after president biden did the courageous thing and stepped out of the race, we held that meeting of executive --, labor, represent 60 national unions throughout the country with combined total of 12.5 million members. within 24 hours of president biden stepped out of the race, our president convened a meeting of our executive council. 99% of those presidents unanimously supported kamala harris for president. since then, we have been working the ground, we have the

largest ground game we have ever had in the history of the afl-cio. we are in a very unique situation because our process is something no other organization, no candidate, no party have, we have the ability to touch workers, talk to workers at their door steps, but also on the job. what we are doing is, talking to members one on one, having discussions with them and by no means, is the labor movement monolithic. what we are doing is comparing the records of these two candidates to our members, holding those one-on-one discussions at the worksite. and we see a big shift toward harris, we see a lot of momentum , very optimistic. we was able to really move the needle, the union made the difference in 2020. we made the difference in 2022, we think our program will make

the difference in 2024. the program is simple, when you give working people the facts, you tell working people the truth, when you compare the records of the two candidates to working people, the working people generally makes the right decision in terms of which candidate they are going to support. that is what we see happening in this race. >> i hear what you're saying, afl-cio, uaw, a lot of unions have done what you describe, some did it assesses you, others took more time. there are others that haven't, they have not come around and the polling does indicate, maybe not reliable, while most union members are supporting kamala harris, there does not seem to be the payback from the idea this is an administration solidly behind organized labor and collective bargaining. president biden and vice president harris make reference

to it all the time, when asked about whether they would invoke the government to bring the dockworkers back, they said, no. this is for collective bargaining to take care of. >> that's right, we respect collective bargaining. as a result of the hands-off approach by the biden administration, we was able to secure a collective bargaining agreement with that international longshoreman. collective bargaining works, there are times when the government can play an important role and there is a time people need to start back and let the process work. collective bargaining is the foundation of the union movement and we believe in collective bargaining. there is a time and place for the government to get involved and a time when the government needs to step back. what is unique about the labor movement is, we have 50 state afl-cio federations in every state in this country.

we have 435 central labor councils and area labor councils in cities and communities throughout this country. what was amazing was within hours after the teamsters, which are not members of the afl-cio, highly respect their process , we greatly respect their process and respect the teamsters as a union. within hours after the teamsters decided not to do an endorsement, there was a significant shift toward harris and walz campaign by local unions throughout the country of the teamsters, some of the largest local unions. and also by the entire black caucus. that is because of our ability to have local federations, local bodies with a lot of unions like the teamsters are

members of. we are able to deliver messages that resonate to those local unions in their communities. >> fred, we appreciate your shedding light on this. fred redmond is the secretary- treasurer of the afl-cio . thanks for being with us tonight. still ahead, this year, one democrat has a chance to do something no democrat has accomplished since 1994, win a statewide race in texas. i will talk to colin allred, the democratic congressman looking to unseat ted cruz. next. what does a robot know about love?

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i'm the exact opposite of senator cruz, most extreme senator in the united states and its, maybe the most extreme the last 30 years. only focused on himself, how you go to cancun when millions of texans need you and hundreds are dying at the truth is, we don't have to be embarrassed by her senator, we can get a new one, that is what this election is about asking texans to give me a chance to do. speaking to meet on tuesday, colin allred, the democratic candidate tore into senator ted cruz reminded voters they are not stuck with cruz, not yet. this year's democrat, democrats seem to have a shot at flipping the senate seat. cruz and allred separated by one percentage point, well within the margin of error. the pressure is on for allred to do something democrats have tried to do in that state a long time, turn it purple. joining me is colin allred,

senate candidate in texas. thanks for being with us. always tricky in texas, sometimes people get close, there's energy about the fact it is going to happen and something goes where. where are you with 18 days ago in the selection, your closing in, the race is really tight, what are you thinking? >> thanks for having me on. i'm here in austin, not about our past in texas, it is about our future and very fundamental choice we have to make with the senator, who for 12 years, has shown us who exactly he is and what he is not interested in doing, which is representing the people of this state. that is a go to cancun when folks need you most, try to work to overthrow american presidential election, take away a woman's right to choose. versus someone like me the most bipartisan texan in congress with a record of getting things done for estate, and wants to serve all 30 million of us there i know our past is interesting to folks but i

think texans are much more interested in the future and who can serve the next six years. speed across the country, organizations like real quick politics or cook political reporter shifting things, people concerned shifting toward donald trump in small measure, cook to report to your state from being likely republican to leaning republican, one less for ted cruz. what is going on and why is that happening? what is happening that is different from six months ago? >> in part, recognizing the objective reality of what we have known for months in texas, incredibly close race but we are building a broad coalition, one that includes democrats, yes, also independents and republicans. every single day, i talked to a texan they never voted for democrat before but they're getting involved with my campaign.

i was campaigning with liz cheney not long ago in dallas, my friend adam kinzinger helping out, building a broad coalition. it is one in our state and democracy and constitution, one that will kick ted cruz out of office. >> i'm not far from you, i'm in phoenix. like texas, arizona is one of those places where immigration and the border are real concerns . reproductive rights are real concerns. the cost of living is a real concern. what are you hearing from your constituents and people that you want to get to vote for you, what is really driving and what is likely to make the decision for them on november 5th? >> in texas, experiencing near total ban on abortion looks like. there are so many brave texas women whether -- lauren miller, taylor edwards, i could keep going and going, unfortunately. so many brave texas women that

have come forward and told their family stories about what impacts have been having. telling in a way texans are starting to understand. fundamentally understand this is an issue of freedom, a freedom taken with in the state by ted cruz. this is his abortion ban and by beating him, we can restore this freedom. many other concerns, rising costs, we do have to secure the border, ted cruz prevented us from doing that. we have to protect medicare and social security, a lot of things are important. this fundamental freedom is driving so much what is happening here and anyone watching this that wants to restore that freedom, i hope you go to colin allred.com and get involved. we will beat ted cruz, make rov land the law of the land. talk about the border, you say ted cruz border policies are worse than nothing, he treats border committees like he is going on safari. what do you mean by that? >> as i said in the debate, my family is from brownsville, texas, the tip of texas, my

grandfather was a customs officer there. nothing worse than coming down to the valley or going to a border community and pointing out problems but not being part of solutions. then you're using them why political backdrop. you are there to take your photo shoot and get out of there. like i said in the debate, to be on a safari and put on your outdoor clothes and try to look tough but never be part of the solution. we had a bill, in the united states senate for $20 billion for 1500 new border patrol officers and 100 new immigration judges, 400,000 asylum personnel, technology the catch fentanyl you say no to it because you think you're more important than our state. our border communities understand that as well. that is why we will vote him out it is unacceptable, you can't think you have a senator that think their election or short-term political interest is more important than 30 million texans. >> it is you, thank you for joining us.

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i'm in the swingset of arizona tonight, part of my series. i spoke with three voters named rachel, danny and --, all of them are registered republicans and identify deeply with the republican party but not with what their party values have become under donald trump. is it your view you will remain

a republican for the time to come? >> yes, in arizona, it is difficult to be an independent. i think in my heart of hearts that is what i would rather be. to make any difference, they were saying you want to go vote for the better republican candidate. i think that is where it makes the most difference in arizona, for me. >> has become easier and easier to not vote for people that don't stand for normal conservative rentable. and instead deny election results and try to justify attempted coup in our country. he can't say that january 6th was a loving event where people got together toward the capitol. that is not reality. >> i'm heartbroken about it and i don't know if i will remain a

republican but i feel like i was a no man's land but i'm in women's land because i'm a harris supporter. i don't know if i can stay with the party and the republican party that i joined was a republican party that really respected the patriotism of the other and was not, remember small government, not overreaching into your life or your life or your life. whether it is how you want to present or your identity or it is your economic background, or it is your race, your culture, your faith. i was attracted to the republican party because it was less government, supposed to be getting out of people's lives and respecting how they choose to live to and respecting that in harmony. we have become the overreach, we have become precisely the opposite. >> three arizona republicans having trouble recognizing their own party. we will hear more from them and

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