i have an emotional reaction to you raising that, because it is on her broad shoulders that i stand. and so many of us stand, and we have come a long way, to your point and on your specific point about including the fact that i have the support of countless black men who are in elected positions, and quitting just this afternoon after two church visits today with the mayor of atlanta. that being said, i think that you are absolutely right. that there is this narrative about what kind of support we are receiving from black men that is just not panning out in reality in terms of when i go to lipsitz last night, atlanta, and had, i think 10,000 people at a rally. i will also say this. i am very clear. i must burn -- earn the vote of

everyone, regardless of their race or gender. and what can be frustrating sometimes is to have journalists ask me this question as a one should assume that i would just be able to take for granted the vote of black men. i think that is actually an uninformed perspective. because why would black men be any different in any other demographic of voter? they expect that you are in their vote, and that is why i am talking and presenting my policies in a way that are, of course, for all americans, but i will also speak about the specific impact that i can see it having on different demographics of voters. >> while we are talking about black men, let's talk about blacks in general, because one of the things you know i have been on a protestant tour for the national youth network and central qualifier and others. and one of the things that reporters said, what about the,

letter to cop. and i said, i knew her as d.a. she was one that wanted people with marijuana arrests not to go to jail. and the attorney general wasn't even under your purview. i mean, do you think that this is orchestrated, that they are trying to find some way to separate you from some elements? because you used to be too progressive as a district attorney. >> and here's the thing. we are, as of today, sunday, 16 days away from the election for president of the united states, and there are all sorts of people who are going to throw a bunch of things out that will include miss and disinformation with the intention to dissuade certain people from voting. and that is not new. and so that is why i am spending time in all communities to make sure that they hear directly from me, so

that they can judge for themselves in a way that is unfiltered. i'm going to continue doing that. i am leaving nothing on the field in this election, leaving nothing on the field. so i sit with you this afternoon after visiting two churches today the sunday morning. yesterday, i was in michigan. tomorrow will be pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and i'm leaving nothing on the field. >> the black vote is important, george's important, wisconsin is important. and how do you, as you go, dealing with your economic message -- i know a lot of people that call my radio show that say, well, what happens? how does this impact my pocket? i don't know what you mean, how would inflation reduction or infrastructure. share with our viewers on what has impacted them, and what a president harris would do that understands what needs to go in their pocket, not the beltway language? >> so it is a very legitimate

and important question that voters ask that we should respond to on the affirmative without waiting for the question. so for example, how will it affect individuals? part of my plan is to expand the child tax credit to $6000. and in particular, to target young parents in the first year of their child life to make sure they have the resources to buy a crib or a car seat or clothes, because we know that the vast majority of our parents have a natural desire to parent their children well, not all the resources. especially when you also recognize that we did this, which is expand the child tax credit for less than i am proposing now, when we did, we were just -- childhood poverty in america -- black childhood poverty in america reduced by half. part of my plan is to deal with the home healthcare of seniors, and i tell a personal story -- i often go off script to tell a

personal story. when my mother was sick, as it turned out, she was dying from cancer. i took care of her. and to take care of an elder relative means to try and cook something if you like eating or can eat. it means trying to put clothes on them or give them clothes that don't irritate their skin, to help them put on a sweater. it means trying to figure out a way to just bring a smile to their face from time to time to say something that might make them laugh. it's about dignity. and far too many people who were taking care of elder relatives are struggling, because to do that means often they may have to leave their job, which means they are going to reduce their income, or they have to pay down their savings to qualify for medicaid. so my plan is to recognize this is about dignity and say, that should not have to happen in order to help you take care of an elder. we are going to have medicare covered. i think about this issue also in the context of people were

in the sandwich generation, and that's what we call people who are taking care of their young kids and their parents. >> wow. >> and shouldn't have to think about leaving their job or losing all of their savings in order to apply for medicaid. these are examples. i talk about what i intend to build, which is an opportunity economy, which in large part, understands the vast majority of americans have ambition, aspirations. have an incredible work ethic. they have dreams. but not necessarily access to the resources that allow them the opportunity to achieve their goals. unlike my opponent, who thinks about the world differently. i think informed in large part by the way he experienced life, having been served $400 million on a virtual silver platter, which he then filed bankruptcy six times. my opponents, who when he thinks about tax policies, about cutting taxes for the richest among us, alien ears and biggest corporations who

can afford, by the way, to pay their fair share. his plan for what i call a trump sales tax would be at least a 20% tax on everyday necessities, which economists have estimated americans will pay $4000 more a year. so when asked this question about how will this affect my life in terms of a voter worrying about the fact that, look -- the price of groceries is still too high. i get it, they get it, and what are we doing to help them actually get through life in a way that they are not just getting by, but getting ahead. we have to have specific policies that do that. and that is what i offer under what we call an opportunity economy approach. donald trump is offered something very different, including when talking about project 2025. i will tell you from the biggest rallies i do to church services, people know what is in project 2025. they know that it would allow corporations to basically stop

protecting the right of workers to have overtime pay. what it would do to take away the independents of the department of justice , and as we know, he intends to use it to attack his political enemies. people are very concerned by what project 2025 would do, which is to get rid of public servants who dedicated their lives to doing public service, and instead putting loyalists in these various agencies. so that he can have them bend to his will and stead of do the work that is in the public trust. >> last question. i will go back to where we started, was shirley chisholm. today is her birthday, and we all reflect on our birthdays, what our life would mean. you call me on my birthday. thanks again. what you want 50 years from now , what you wanted to say about kamala harris? >> i, i hope that -- and i

really do work that my life will have proven to have been a life that is about fighting for the people. fighting for the dignity of people. work that is -- work that has impacted and uplifts the people -- all people. i do hope that is what history will say. >> some little girl or little boy is going to be talking about you like you talked about miss chisholm. thank you for doing this. on your birthday. >> thank you. it's good be with you again. inc. you. >> my thanks again to vice president kamala harris. joining me now is my political panel. michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee, and cohost of msnbc show the weekend. and basil's michael, political analyst and professor of professional studies at

columbia university. michael, you just heard from the vice president. first, what are your thoughts? >> you know, it's amazing to me at this point, reverend, that folks don't know who this vice president is. i don't know how many different ways she can tell her narrative. share not just her journeys story, but what she intends to do. you know, from the opportunity economy to dealing with issues in the middle east, and of course, as you could tell even on that first question, about what is happening on the ground, there is a delicate line for her to walk, because the administration that she is a part of is, at the moment, executing a particular case, in which she may or may not agree with all of it. and so, you know, she understands her role currently, but she also sees the role she

will play in the future. and i think that she is -- you know, threading these needles very carefully. they give us some insights into who she is, how she thinks about some of these things, and is still, you know, basically this narrative of, i don't know who she is and i just don't understand. well, the press have covered her for 4 years. b they know a little bit more if they were less fixated on her, you know, demanding her time to sit down with them so that they can play the gotcha thing that we just saw on fox. and just listen to what she is saying. maybe they can understand a little bit more of who she is and why she should be the next president. i thought you brought that out effectively, and, you know, in the next 16 days, hopefully voters will digest some more of that. >> basil, what you make of the vice president and what she had to say? do you think she is connecting with voters in the closing days of the campaign?

>> well, absolutely. and i echo everything that michael just said, because if you still believe -- if there's anyone that still believes she hasn't done enough, that means that you are intentionally not paying attention to her. she has said everything she needed to say, she is gone everywhere she is needed to go and then some, and has really articulated a piece for why she should be president of the united states. you know, i think the messaging in addition to the sort of number -- the sports analogy is paid off, as a lot of the recent polling is suggesting that if more and more voters do feel that her policies actually will help them in the future, and that suggest to me that not only is she -- not only is she getting success in being able to define herself, she is also becoming successful at distancing herself from the biden administration and those policies, contrasting with donald trump and really just starting to sort of form her

own identity as a candidate and potential president of the united states. i will also add very quickly, i remember in the interview, me making a comment from shirley to carmella, and i keyed in on that, because i should be a t- shirt. and b, it actually underscores a very important message, which is that history matters. when you talk to a lot of voters, the kind of don't have a lot of a history of not only help kamala got to be how she is, but how is a community, particularly talking about black voters, how is a community we have gotten to this place. what happened before? what were the stumbling blocks? what were the challenges? how have those been overcome by the community, but also by individuals in that community to get us to this very specific point? so context matters. history matters. and with an eye toward the future, there should be this larger conversation about how we move the needle.

if donald trump is forcing us to look backward, how do we collectively look forward? and i think, you know, that very simple sort of, from shirley to, lapointe does absolutely underscore that, we have -- there is a back story here. if you really fully understand that back story, and you can look toward the future and understand her role in it. >> michael steele. thank you both for being with us and being on our political panel. i political panel will be back with us later on in the show. but first, the harris walls campaign is focused on turning out the black vote. find out how democrats are stepping up to help after this break. break. ♪ i'll be there... ♪ ♪ you don't... ♪ ♪ you don't have to worry... ♪

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sidney dove, democrat of california. thank you for joining us tonight. the congressional black caucus is mobilizing behind the harris walls campaign. yesterday, we were joined by your colleague, congressman greg meeks, who is leading the caucus bust were swing states, stumping for the vp and for congressional -- black congressional candidates. that tour is in georgia this weekend, as is the vice president, as you just heard. how would you describe the mood of black voters, you are talking to, as this election day takes down, 16 days? >> excited, electrified, lit -- i just came back from georgia. i was on the bus with four other congress members, and we started off at a breakfast with black business owners. we then had a reproductive roundtable with healthcare

advocate. ended up at clark atlanta university for homecoming, and then we ended up at the rally with the vice president, usher, and close to 10,000 voters who are excited about the possibility and the future with a president kamala harris. lack voters are excited, motivated, energized, irritated that we continue to be manipulated by donald trump, and you can see from the numbers, 1.4 million in early voting happening in georgia at the end of this weekend. >> now black voters, specifically men, has said to this election cycle in a way i've never seen in my lifetime. and by both campaigns. in a recent howard university poll, 84% of black likely voters in seven swing states said they are voting for the vice president. 8% say they are pulling for

trump with a margin of error of about 3 points. but there is an age-related gender gap in the polling, with 21% of black men under 50 supporting trump versus 13% of black women in the same age group. which we will get you shortly. and it is that gap with young black men that has democrats unnerved. how important is it to close it before election day, congresswoman? >> it is absolutely critical. as you heard the vice president say, she is taking every vote seriously, not taking one vote for granted, and neither is the cbc. we have been out in barbershops, hookah shops, cigar ledges, breakfast joints, and on social media making sure that we are connecting with black voters. we know the black community is not a monolith, and sometimes it seems like sisters get all the attention, it isn't it amazing that this presidential candidate, kamala harris, is

centering an economic agenda around black men because she knows just like the cpc how critical black men are to our families, our communities, to our workforce, and this country ? as opposed to donald trump, who is interested in actually sending more of our black men back to prison, interested in resurrecting stop and frisk, interested in having the death penalty for drug dealers, and continues to double down on the belief that the central part five should be executed. that is how he feels about our black men. i will also tell you something. when i was in atlanta, i asked a lot of black men how they felt about kamala harris without the neck roll, and they said they were upset that so many people were saying black men didn't care about kamala harris. they said, i care about her. i support her. i am voting for her and i'm bringing five to 10 of my

brothers to the polls to vote for her as well. >> now staying with that, the role of gender and race in this election, the vice president has centered reproductive rights as a huge part of her campaign message. and howard's polling found abortion to be the number one issue of black women in terms of black women's minds in this election. democrats hope that the abortion issue will drive turnout in battleground states. is there an opportunity to do that with black women? with whom harris has an 81 point lead over donald trump, according to howard university's poll? >> absolutely. listen to the story and testimony of amber nicole thurman, who died a preventable death because in georgia, that state would not help her with her pregnancy complication. we are seeing that in states across the country with abortion bans, and if donald trump is elected, we will see a national abortion ban. we will also see restrictions on access to