let's do it. with just 16 days until election day, republicans have gone all-in on whitewashing the january 6th insurrection. >> there was a beauty to it, and there was a love to it that i've never seen before. >> most people there didn't attack the capitol. they came out of love of the country. >> yes, there was a riot at the capitol on january 6th, but there was still a peaceful transfer of power in this country. >> we had a peaceful transfer of power in 2020. no, we did not, speaker johnson. it was the natural culmination that the 2020 election was stolen from trump. this violent attack on our democracy should have been the end for donald trump. instead, his enablers saved him

from an impeachment conviction for his actions in that insurrection. they've down played january 6th a campaign strategy. trump has repeatedly referred to the rioters as hostages while vowing to pardon him if he wins. while some of his lawyers who helped push the big lie like rudy giuliani and sidney powell have faced accountability for their actions, one has managed to slip by. enter, lawyer cleda mitchell, a prominent election conspiracy theorist. she gained notoriety demanding georgia officials somehow trump find him 11,780 votes. mitchell later resigned from her firm. while a georgia grand jury recommended in 2022 she be charged alongside trump and others on that car for soliciting election fraud, she was not indicted. she's now working, again, to sew distrust in this election.

mitchell has since founded the election integrity network, a group of voter suppression activists and conspiracy theorists that are already hard at work to cast doubt on the election results. mitchell has helped plant lawsuits seeking last-minute changes on the hypothetical risk of election fraud from overseas voters. these lawsuits have been launched in crucial swing states like georgia, north carolina, and pennsylvania. as you might assume, none of these lawsuits have offered solid proof of widespread voter fraud using overseas ballots. as we know, a lack of solid evidence did not stop trump and his supporters in 2020. it has not stopped them on running on election denialism in 2024. most of the lawsuits then were not designed to win on the merits but to confuse the public. these cases are of a same piece. it seems like there's a political calculation here. and that's what this attempt

for a january 6th sequel is all about. sew doubt about the election results if it doesn't go their way. rile up their voters into this crazy frenzy, and then sit back and watch the chaos unfold. and when that culminates in violence like we saw on january 6th , their move is to either whitewash it, downplay it, or step back and sadly call it patriotism. former investigative council for the january 6th select committee, great to have both of you with us. you saw in that clip we played trump calling january 6th a day of love. you have republicans insisting it was a peaceful transfer of power in 2020 and january 67th was not all that bad. what world are they living in? >> reporter: ha.

they're living in a despicable world of gaslighting. this is what maga does. they are a bunch of enablers. let's not forget mike johnson was one of the architects behind the whole election denial fake electors scheme. he was one of them. mike watley who is now the head of the rnc was a top election denier. they have him in charge of an election integrity unit. cleda mitchell, all of them, they have been part of this election denial under the guise of election integrity. they've been part of this whole ecosystem. for them to sit there and try to conflate these two things and turn it around and the projection, it's always projection, always, so they're claiming there's election fraud and that january 6th was a day of love. and all of these things we have seen with our own eyes that we know not to be true. and it's just despicable that they are sitting here trying to tell the american people that we didn't see what we saw, a

violent insurrection of maga supporters incited by donald trump, encouraged by his maga acolytes to go and do what they did and defecate in the hallowed halls of our capitol. they know this, but they are liars, and think have to continue to lie in order to maintain their maga veneer here of somehow that this was a day of love. it was not. tell that to the police officers who lost their careers because of their injuries or the officers who lost their lives as a result of january 6th. or to the hundreds of police officers injured that day. to daniel hodges who was screaming for his life. or to the officers who were beaten with an american flag or bear sprayed. i mean, it is such, it's so offensive that the republican party did not use january 6th, the guys that walk around with their pocket constitutions when i used to work on capitol hill,

they used to tell everybody they weren't american enough, and these are the same people that didn't off ramp after january 6th when there could have been a constitutional crisis because they're too afraid to stand up to donald trump? it's an affront to everyone who takes that oath of office. this is where the american people can vote down the lies and not believe the gaslighting and defeat donald trump and maga this november. >> jacob, you're someone who worked with the january 6th committee. you helped expose so many of the various narratives around trump's role in the insurrection. how discouraged are you to see four years on republicans going from condemning the riot to downplaying it as no big deal and completely rewriting it as saying a day of love? >> reporter: well, i would take it one step further and say i'm terrified because of the conversations i had again and

again with dozens of people who went on to storm the capitol. proud boys, oath keepers, qanon. i talked to them. i got their story. part of what we saw is this was not a one-off to an answer to a call by donald trump. these people had long paths to extremism. their paths to the capitol were littered with other instances of engaging with extremism. because of extreme conspiracy theories against democratic governors earlier in the year during covid. because of homophobia, islamophobia. what i'm really concerned about now are the seeds that are being laid by donald trump and others to basically put forward those authoritarian narratives to undermine the 2024 election. you've seen an unprecedented

explosion of anti-trans rhetoric in these final weeks and a dangerous amplification of anti-immigrant, racist narratives. most concerningly what donald trump did on the debate stage talking about springfield and immigrants there who were eating cats and eating dogs. that felt like the stand back, standby moment in 2020 when donald trump was telling extremists saying come into the public square, do my bidding. i'm not going to direct you further, but you know what to do to take it from here. what i'm concerned about is having that authoritarian dynamic continuing to play out basically by having allegations of non-citizen voting in counties in georgia and pennsylvania and any swing state that proves to be determinative to be an invitation for the january 6th coalition to bring the band back together and focus their violent energy on a local elections board, a county

municipal building that can sustain the kind of attack that we saw at the capitol, not anywhere close. >> let's talk about this effort from mitchell's grown up to suppress the 2024 vote by beginning to plant lawsuits seeking last-minute changes to election procedures based on this hypothetical risk of fraud from overseas. there's nothing to back up these claims. let's be absolutely clear about that. she is repeating what donald trump did and spread with his election denialism and disinformation to sew distrust in the public. it's like softening the ground a little bit in military terms. it's like you're preparing what is to come over the next month or so following the election. >> reporter: yeah. and it's all under the guise of election integrity. like i said before. and we all know that's not true at all. they're trying to sew chaos, and they've had four years to perfect the mistakes that they made in 2020. i'm fearful of what's going to happen on election day also because of these efforts,

because they've also installed a lot of their election denier acolytes in positions of power in these states. whether they're on election boards, we saw what's going on in georgia. we saw what happened in michigan last time around. it was one courageous member on that board that voted correctly and got death threats because of it. this time around, they made sure they put their people in these places to try to do this all under the guise of election integrity. we have to pay a lot of attention to this and be vigilant to make sure they don't get away with it. this is concerning me. i lose sleep at night over this part of it. and the violence part of this, we've already seen it. we already saw what's happening with because of donald trump's lies and because of jd vance's lies and maga enabling them, we saw what's happening to fema workers. someone got arrested in north carolina for violently threatening fema workers. you think this isn't going to happen to election workers too? of course it is.

because he's inciting these people to do this and under the idea that it's patriotic. there's nothing patriotic about any of this. it's traitorous actually. but they're convinced that it's patriotic, and that makes it even more dangerous because they think it's a righteous cause. some think it's a righteous cause from god. we're trying to conduct a peaceful transfer of power. >> 30 election deniers in 2020 fake electors that are serving as trump's official electors in battleground states this year. we talked earlier in the show about what is happening in georgia where the georgia board of elections who had a judge dismiss their procedures. now they're going to appeal that judge's decision. we have early voting under way in georgia, and the rules of the game are still being

written by these extremists in the middle of our election. >> yeah. and i think to some extent, to tara's point, the chaos is the point. and the idea that trump allies can continue to gum up the works of the rules of the election and then once the election happens, continue to roadblock and put up other barriers so that these electors perhaps could raise a stink and say they should be the ones voting instead or that state officials if they are favorable to trump in the few states where they are might be able to say i don't know if the election is final. all of this is meant to lay the groundwork for a conflict later on down the road. and i'm worried that this time around, there's more awareness within the trump campaign and within the broader trump orbit before election day that there are many steps of this process on the road from november 5th to january 6th that they should be, in their minds, exploiting to make sure that the maximum

level of uncertainty is occurring at every stage. and part of that uncertainty, to tara's point, is the violence. you have seen this with fema workers and springfield. the way that donald trump is able to, with his rhetoric, legitimize vigilante violence and para-military activity is concerning in a situation where there are legal efforts to undermine the certainty of the results in other ways. that's what we saw happen on january 6th and the days before january 6th in d.c. it's really concerning to think that the trump campaign might be making more organized efforts to do that not just in d.c. but in seven or eight states on november 10th. >> we've got more. let me squeeze in a quick break and we'll talk about spies at polling stations. you are not going to believe how some far-right activists

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back in 2020, you might remember the mayhem that unfolded in detroit just one day after the presidential election there. hordes of people gathered outside detroit's convention center then calling the tcf center alleging false and debunked claimers of voter fraud amplified by donald trump. and banging on the windows, they were yelling stop the count. we take a closer look at that unrest and found dozens of trump supporters including people linked to the campaign played roles in the chaos, more than previously known. more than five campaign-linked activists held signs encouraging people to chant stop the count, indicating that trump himself wanted them to do so. now just 16 dies 16 days out, they have recruited some 200,000 people whom they call

patriots to volunteer as poll watchers. in a training video for volunteers in michigan, detroit is always going to be our tier one. it's not just poll watchers that the right is now focused on. they're also seeking outscores of people to actually administer the election. according to propubrica, people who have pushed false election fraud claims are recruiting poll workers in at least six swing states. the message to recruits, you can be a spy in the camp or trojan horse on november 5th. tara setmayer and jacob glick are back with me. advocacy groups have sought out volunteer poll watchers in our political system. that is normal for them to observe the voting process, flag concerns. it's a sign of strength. but how significant is it that now we are seeing these types

of activists on the right trying to recruit poll workers as spies and trojan horses? >> reporter: it's very concerning because they have an agenda. it's an agenda that is not a democratic one. it's not rooted in free and fair democratic principles. it's rooted in authoritarianism and fascism and intimidating your neighbor. this is very orwellian in a lot of ways. we've seen what happens when you have a certain group telling you to spy and spy on your neighbors and tell on them. it's fascist. that's what's happening here, all under the guise of patriotism. no, it isn't. when you intimidate workers, who do you have that's going to volunteer? intimidation is the point. 80% of election workers are women. a study showed that women have been harassed like 38% of them

said they experienced harassment during their election working duties. 40% of election offices have increased physical security around their election offices. they thought about installing panic buttons. places like michigan are training people in misinformation. pennsylvania has a great secretary of state, and they have a task force for political election day violence. they're trying to figure out ways, how to train people in case there's a threat. this is insane. this is all because of donald trump and maga. this hasn't happened before like this at this level. you had it maybe back in the day with jim crow and other tactics at the polls. this is a direct result of donald trump and his bs election denying. now it's trickling down into something that used to be a very patriotic thing that people liked to do, go and vote, you can go and volunteer. now they want people to spy on them. we need to pay attention to this because this is part of

the authoritarian playbook that donald trump wants to install and inflict on this country. another thing to consider. >> i want to share an anecdote. who is interested in obeying god, election integrity, and getting paid to do it? all right, stand up, we're going to induct you. this man lance wallnau directed attendees to the organization lines of juda which features trump prominently on its website. what do you make of this language? this infusion of religion, extremism, and politics? >> reporter: i agree. could not agree more with what tara said about this being a really concerning furthering of the authoritarian frame. christian nationalism played a huge role in the organizing and execution of the events of january 6th at the capitol. i think the echoing of that language here and now is

extremely concerning. one thing about that tcf report is multiple people named in that report including the top lawyer for the oath keepers who traveled to d.c., they were at the tcf center, and they also made their way to the capitol for january 6th and we deposed many of those people. as i read the article, i kept recognizing these names. it goes to the broader point we've been talking about so far, this kind of language, framing elections in a way that emphasizes extremism and vigilantism invites people who are associated with far-right extremism more generally to come out into the open and to become a part of the trump campaign, the trump coalition. and i think one thing that sticks with me from the january 6th committee depositions is people felt ashamed afterward of particular parts of january

6th. they knew they couldn't tell us that they supported beating up cops, but they were okay with telling us they really wanted to go after black lives matter because they believed that was still something socially acceptable to say. what trump is doing here with this election spy campaign is lowering the social barrier to having extremists participate in the election directly, and that just, as we've been saying, lays the groundwork for further interference and further violence as we go through the certification process in all these contested states and all the way up to january 6th. >> so tara. >> and this time, we don't have nancy pelosi. remember, we had nancy pelosi last time as speaker of the house. now it's mike johnson. so if it gets to that point again, we have to be concerned about what happens on january 6th. >> that's what i was going to ask you about, is where are the kind of safety valves, if you will, that we have in this

process right now? i should say fail safes that we have right now in the process. like where in this chain, whether it is on a local level, county state, or all the way up to the federal level, do we have mechanisms in place to make sure that the chaos can be firewalled and prevent it from derailing our system? >> reporter: well, thankfully democrats have been investing in this possibility as well. you have a lot of election integrity lawyers out there who are gearing up for this. also in some of the swing states like pennsylvania, like michigan, and even georgia, you do have people there that are not going to allow a lot of this to go through. you do have some guardrails there. wisconsin as well. but when it gets to that point, i mean, the chaos of all of this is still something that we don't need. because the more people that don't believe in the process, the more it undermines our

democratic institutions. i think there are people preparing for this, like i mentioned with efforts in some of those states and the task forces and the trainings. what happens between election day and january 6th remains to be seen, and we have to remain vigilant. >> tear thank you. doctors demand donald trump have more than just concepts of a healthcare plan. healthcare p. oh, yeah. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪

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members of my family actually got private health insurance at least for the first time, switched off medicaid on to private insurance for the first time under donald trump's leadership. >> the trump-vance campaign has been awfully quiet about healthcare since jd vance boasted about it at the vp debate last month, especially since the washington post later reported that his mother did, in fact, get healthcare under

trump through obamacare. who could forget what trump said when asked for his healthcare policy at the debate. >> i have concepts of a plan. i'm not president right now. but if we come up with something, i would only change it if we come up with something that is better and less expensive. there are concepts and options we have to do that. and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future. >> a concept of a plan nearly a decade into this. in an open letter, 1,500 physicians are calling on trump to finally reveal his healthcare policy, if he even has one. they say patients and americans nationwide deserve to know what would be in store for their healthcare in a second trump presidency so that they can make an informed decision on november 5th. joining me is executive director of the committee to protect healthcare. dr. davidson, it's great to have you on the show i's bizarre to think of a presidential candidate running for a public office for the

better part of nine years talking about the biggest concern we have among many of, you know, the issues that we're dealing with in this country and all he has is concepts of a plan two weeks out. >> yeah. it's incredible that he has been running on repealing the affordable care act for all of those years he's been running for and has been president and still can't tell us what he would possibly do to make healthcare better for our patients. that's why 1,500 folks, fellow physicians got together because we take it personally. being able to take care of our patients and having them follow what we have been trained to do is critical to us, and we just want one simple answer. what are you going to do for our patients? >> that is such an important question. let me pose that question back to you because your letter makes the case that americans deserve to know what's in store for their healthcare in a second trump term. as you mentioned, he has been working ever since trying to

overdo or override obama care. he signed an executive order chipping away at the aca. despite his promise to repeal and replace it, he hasn't been able to come up with anything. to go back to your point, what do your patients stand to lose if they try and succeed? try again and succeed in overturning obamacare? >> i remember the battle days. i've been doing this for over 25 years. i was here working in the emergency department in a small rural town before the affordable care act was passed. i remember a patient specifically with chest pain for five days came in after a heart attack now in heart failure with a third of their heart function and asking them why didn't they come in sooner? they said it's too expensive. i don't have insurance. folks like that who made too much to qualify for medicaid in the bad old days but didn't have insurance through their employer when most of them worked multiple jobs, they could afford insurance under the affordable care act.

20million people in this country have expanded medicaid because of the affordable care act. people can live more healthy lives beyond that. if we go back to that, back where people couldn't see a doctor, couldn't treat blood pressure, couldn't treat diabetes, had to choose between food and their medications, it will just be a crisis and thousands of people will die if we go back there. >> when you put it like that, it's so clear, and it's undoubtedly a net benefit for americans. i'm just curious from your perspective as an expert in this field, why do you think, or how do you explain why trump and republicans are so obsessed with repealing obamacare? it's helped millions in this country including republicans like jd vance's mother. >> i think we don't have enough time to delve into the psyche of donald trump. however, he seems to be an

unserious person who's very petty. i think he's very upset that something they tried to tag obamacare as a negative has come out as such a positive in people's lives. he has never lived the life of the people i see every day in a poor, rural community who have to make decisions or at least before the aca and the inflation reduction act that allowed seniors to buy insulin for $35 a month and next year will cap prescription drug prices at $2,000 a year, he's never had to make those decisions. he's had people bail him out his entire life. i'm in the real world. my patients are in the real world, and he just doesn't understand. and i don't know why they would do this except that they just have never lived it and they can't understand it, and they just want to make anything that democrats have done or that has made their lives better go away. >> all right, dr. rob davidson, thank you so much for sharing your insights with us. >> thanks, ayman.

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with reliable medicare coverage from unitedhealthcare. this is 10-year-old adhissi clutching the hand of his five- year-old injured sister in gaza city. he is facing a horrific reality that no child should. israeli air strikes hit their home killing his parents and three of his other family members. this is still what palestinians on the ground are facing daily. doctors have been raising the alarm about the impact of the war on children. that is the focus of a new york times op-ed piece spearhead by my next guest where 65 doctors, nurses, and paramedics recount what they saw in gaza. that looked like seeing a young child who had been shot in the head or the chest nearly every

single day. most of these children went on to die, 13 in total. dr. sidway joins me now. thanks for coming back on to the show. you volunteered in gaza back in march from march to april of this year. do you remain in contact with colleagues on the ground there? what have you been hearing about these latest escalations particular in the north of gaza? >> i don't speak arabic, so it's hard to talk directly to people. but the news coming out of northern gaza is horrific. it seems like the israelis have instituted what they're calling the general's plan, and have basically decided to seal the north off. there's been very little, if any, aid delivery there for weeks. and there are major, major killing events happening every day. >> i want to turn now to this op-ed that you spearheaded, which actually has received a

lot of backlash unexpectedly. some readers have questioned the authenticity of your fellow medic accounts and even ct scans where you show bullet fragments in childrens neck and chests. you are an expert in your field. what do you say to people who question what you and your colleagues saw firsthand and your motivations? >> i would just let people know that the pictures are real. i have the full ct scans. i was just on a podcast with a fellow who describes himself as pro-israel. i went through the scans with him, and they're not fake. if the people want to come up with ludicrous explanations for why 65 american healthcare workers, you know, plenty of whom like me have no connection to the israel-palestine conflict. i'm not jewish, i'm not palestinian, i'm not muslim, i'm not christian, no

connection to it other than i'm an american. if they think we went there to work in a war zone, risk our own lives, i lost 15 15 pounds in the two weeks i was there. pronounced more people dead there than i usually do in a year. if they think i went through all that to make up some nonsense for no obvious reason, that's on them. i don't really know what to say anymore. >> you and your colleagues have sent two letters to the biden administration urging a cease- fire, one in july and once this month. have you received a response? >> no, unfortunately not. that's been very frustrating. i don't know if there's a time when in the letters 99 american healthcare workers signed them. 99 american healthcare workers who worked in gaza signed them. we called for an arms embargo, for a meeting with the biden

administration, and no response from anybody. i know through personal contacts that it's been seen by kamala harris. i don't know that it's been seen by joe biden specifically. certainly it's reached his handlers, but it's very frustrating. i can't think of a time when 99 american physicians have written to describe eyewitness testimony of clear and obvious war crimes being committed in a systematic, ongoing, widespread fashion running over more than a year and received no response from the sitting president of the united states who incidentally is a liberal democrat. that was pretty unusual. >> there was some concern and a year on we're seeing horrific, heartbreaking videos of children being killed in the most cruel and violent ways. you talked about why you volunteered. you've done it elsewhere. what precedent does this set if israel's war continues to go on in this way and gets away with it for civilians in war zones

around the world? >> yeah. well,this gets back to the question of what is, it's, i don't want to contradict you, but it's misleading to call this a war. it's an attack on gaza. what is the point of it? that's the reason we've highlighted the large-scale killing of children through shooting. it's very hard to argue that's accidental over the course of a year. that's very unlikely. it just gets back to the question, what is israel trying to do? they're trying to do exactly what they said they were trying to do, which is destroy gaza. it's not complicated. if israel and the u.s. are able to do this, then that method of population control for lack of a better term is going to be exported to other places, and that's extremely scary. furthermore, the attack on healthcare is so systematic in israel, excuse me, in gaza, the palestinian ministry of health in gaza has released a name, the names of i believe 960 healthcare workers who have

been killed in gaza. that's one out of every 20. almost every hospital has been physically attacked. every hospital at some point has been evacuated. healthcare basically doesn't exist in gaza anymore. we have normalized a situation in which it's normal to kill doctors, it's normal to kill nurses, it's normal to bomb hospitals from the air, artillery, drones, anything you like. and as a doctor who works in war zones, that's pretty terrifying. >> do you believe it was intentional? >> what? >> the attacks against the civilians and healthcare workers in gaza. >> yeah. i'm not a war crimes investigator. i can't say this specific incident or that specific incident was a war crime. but overall, the entire gaza strip has been physically destroyed. every sewage treatment plant in gaza has been destroyed.

85% of the hygiene infrastructure has been destroyed. they're destroying through controlled demolitions afterwards. you tell me if it's deliberate. i don't know. >> thank you so much for your work. thank you for joining us and shedding a light on this darkness. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. after another quick break, we'll turn to the fight for trans medical health care with a state representative who's leading that charge. who's leading that charge. ovider aboue prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid

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if you vote yes on this bill, and yes on these amendments, i hope the next time there's an invocation when you bow your heads in prayer, you see the blood on your hands. >> that is montana state representative in 2023 when the legislature debated a bill on medical care for trans minors. she became a national symbol. her colleagues responded by refusing to let her speak unless she apologized and eventually expelled her. despite the continued

punishment, she remained a fierce advocate for trans lives. seat 31 directed by kimberly reed captures her advocacy and the discrimination faced by the transgender community especially in conservative states like montana. joining me now is state representative zoey zephyr. you say at one point you speak on the floor of the state house and fight even when you know a bill will be defeated and you do it as a plea to trans youth to stay alive. can you explain that more? >> we knew when we spoke that the impact these laws have, the harm that they do to the trans community, yes it happens when the laws go into effect, but it also happens when trans youth in states like montana have to hear our humanity debated. we knew that then, but now we have even more data.

the cdc said in the last year one in four trans youth have attempted suicide and half of those attempts have needed medical treatment. and we know why. an article published in nature of human behavior recently showed that in states where anti-trans laws are passed, we see an increase in suicide attempts up to 72%. so that's why i pleaded to trans youth on the floor, stay alive. >> you know, of course being a transgender legislator in montana is difficult, a deep red state. i'm curious to know everything you've been through, have you been able to make any or some political allies? in what ways do you strategize to combat these harmful bills against the community that are causing the spike in suicides amongst trans youth? >> one of the most painful truths about the fight for equality, regardless of which group you are fighting for, is that harm comes quick and the change often comes slow.

so for me personally, i have made inroads with several lawmakers in the montana legislature and around the country. but in montana where we had 68 out of 100 republican lawmakers changing nine hearts, changing 12 hearts sometimes wasn't enough. so a lot of the work became could we have those conversations beforehand? before it ever got to the floor. and hopefully stop some of those bills from coming forward and lessen the impact of these legislation as hopefully the right loses steam in bringing these bills forward in the years to come. >> how do you want your story and seat 31 to contribute to the broader conversation right now about trans rights and representation in american politics? >> that's a great question. i think one of the things the documentary touches on is that even in the face of all of the hate, that trans people have found joy and authenticity in ourselves. you know, you have the backdrop

of these anti-trans bills, and you also have me getting an engagement ring for my fiancee, for my now fiancee and finding a light and joy there. but i also want people to see and what we saw in that film, what we see in today's elections is what the right is willing to throw away to achieve these policy goals. whether that is expelling our censoring a legislator, whether it's attacks on abortion and they'll target ivf in their efforts to ban abortion in this country, and just being aware that despite the policy difference, how far will the right go to achieve their harmful aims. >> the election is 16 days away. how harmful would the trump presidency be? what is the threat that a second trump presidency poses to the trans community? >> you know, we don't have to

look farther than the trump campaign's closing arguments here in the 2024 elections where we have seen 10s of millions of dollars in ads targeting our communities. and we have seen them make this case, so we talk about the harm it will do to the trans community. we would see national bans and additional targets on our access to healthcare and our ability to exist in public life. but more broadly, we see where their focus is. in the last month of the campaign, trump's focus has been on excluding healthcare to a small minority of the american population. you look at harris' closing arguments are about expanding healthcare, allowing medicaid to provide coverage for in-home care for seniors, things like that. so we will see impact to healthcare for trans people as well, but we will see the myopic vision of the republican party continue to target our community despite the needs of the american people. >> and do you think state

representative zephyr that the fear mongering that people like trump is working on americans? that fear, we constantly hear these lies about the trans community, sending your kids to school, coming back a different gender, and all the kind of rhetoric that we've seen come out against the vice president and offering operations to undocumented people in prison. all this kind of rhetoric right now, do you think that fear and that rhetoric is causing severe danger and damage to this country? >> absolutely. one, it distracts us from important issues. if they're trying to say a teacher is performing a surgery, they're ignoring the fact that we are drastically underpaying teachers across the country. that's a far more salient issue. we've seen the way these attacks have failed in the past. many michigan, the chair of the gop in michigan said we made a mistake. we spent more money targeting

trans people than we did on bread and butter dinner table issues. in 2023, moms for liberty made this their main platform, and they lost 70% of their races. we're seeing them go all in, in 2024, we'll see them lose too. >> i greatly appreciate your insights, as always. thank you for making time for us at home. catch amy saturdays and sundays at 7:00 p.m. eastern. follow us on x and instagram. until we meet again, i'm ayman in new york. new york. allergic reactions may occur. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. step back out there with fasenra. ask your doctor if it's right for you. (♪♪)

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