good to be with you. i'm katy tur. there are 15 days left until the election, and we are down to each candidate's final pitches. the most convincing arguments and policies, the stuff that will get voters like this guy charlie in pennsylvania who told us over the weekend this. >> i'm not really sure.

i just need to look at their policies. i'm sure there's nothing they could say now that would change my mind because i'm not trying to get my mind changed. i just want to see what they believe in, and based off of what they said in the past, decide on which one of them fits my, i guess, my motives the best, i guess you could say. >> he's going to look at what the candidates are saying, take a look at their past comments, so curiously, what is donald trump's best pitch. let us take stock. over the weekend, he manned the fry counter, did a photo op at the delivery window and dodged reporter's questions on the minimum wage. >> can you work in a minimum wage job or do you think minimum wage should be raised? >> i think this. i think these people work hard. they're great. and i just saw a process. it's beautiful. these are great franchises, and produce a lot of jobs, and great people working here too. really good people.

>> so no answer there on the minimum wage. it was followed today by a tour of devastation in north carolina where a republican congressman chose to use the moment to award him, donald trump, a fry certification pin in front of a drowned out town. >> i also own mcdonald's restaurants, i know you perfected your skills behind the counter a day or so ago, and it was my honor to present president trump with the french fry certification pin. >> that's not all. the rally in pennsylvania over the weekend, he remembered the late great golfer, arnold palmer by reminiscing about the man's genitalia. speaking of genitalia, during an interview, he resurrected an insult he used against hillary clinton back in 2016. this time saying it was harvey weinstein who got schalonged by

democrats after he was accused and convicted of rape. he got hit as hard as you can get hit because he was sort of the king of woke, and yet he got hit. on friday, during an interview with fox news he answered a 10-year-old's question about who his favorite president was by saying lincoln, should have settled with the south to avoid civil war, which as a reminder was fought because the south didn't want to give up slavery. he also said there would be no more cows if vp kamala harris was elected. the night before at a comedy dinner for catholic charities, he said the s word in front of cardinal dolan, the arch bishop of new york. he said he was quote, the father of ivf. in monday, at oaks, pennsylvania, he stopped taking questions in order to sing along and sway to some of his favorite songs for a whole 39 minutes, and on sunday in another interview with fox, he said he

would potentially use the military against democrats if there was chaos after the election, calling them the enemy from within, a threat he's now repeated three times. is this his best pitch? and if it is, why is basically every pollster saying the election is way too close to call, in other words, what is this election really about? joining us now, nbc news correspondent dasha burns, who covers the trump campaign, and nbc washington correspondent, yamiche alcindor who's in chester county, pennsylvania, following the harris campaign. let's start with donald trump, dasha, you go to rallies and talk to people around the country. what do they tell you the heart of the issue is. they might smile or smirk. i know because i have been there about what donald trump says. are they voting because he's saying these things or are they voting because of something else? >> look, katy, that was, first of all, a remarkable rundown of the last several days on the

campaign trail that you gave there. this election is so close, and it's unfortunately, it's not because of voters like charlie who you played there. this is really about turnout of the bases, and this is why you don't hear former president trump really try to appeal to the middle at all. he is trying to rally his base, and the folks that you talk to in those areas where he's trying to turn people out, they feel like the music listening session, he's like logging the ox cord at a party. right. and some people do like that. they feel like, hey, this feels like authentic, this feels casual, this feels like a connection that politicians don't typically have with their voters. but then when you're in a place like latrobe, pennsylvania, and he's talking for 12 minutes about arnold palmer, and veering into conversations about, yes, his genitalia, that there

creates headlines that the campaign does not want. they want the closing message to be immigration and the economy, but the headlines that you just showed at the start of the show, katy, have nothing to do with that. the campaign may say that's because the media is cherry picking the strangest things that he says. the counter i'll hear to that from voters is, okay, but this is what he is spending his time on, and he talks for an hour and a half, yes, and some of that is about immigration and is about the economy. but it's hard not to notice and stop and report on the things that stray so far away from those issues, and so, you know, the question is, is this because of over confidence. is this because of strategy or is it because the mcdonald's stop. he says he wants to be himself as he's campaigning. he wants to be authentic, and we

are, i believe, seeing that right now. >> he is the one talking about genitalia on the campaign trail. it's not like we're putting those words in his mouth. so yamiche, i didn't get into kamala harris's final pitch, what is her pitch to voters. what policies is she presenting? what is she trying to say? is she making outrageous statements like donald trump is? >> well, vice president harris is really leaning into two things. first she's saying that donald trump is a danger to this country, that he will, if elected, undo the very democracy that so many people love about america and have brought so many people to this country, and she's also saying that this is really an election where she could help improve the lives of americans who are struggling including with things like the cost of taking care of your child and taking care of your parent, he's calling the sandwich generation where people are having to balance those two things. today she had this moderated conversation with liz cheney, here in pennsylvania with me, and she'll be going to michigan

and wisconsin later. it's a series of moderated conversations in intimate settings where her and liz cheney are sitting side by side as a republican and a democrat, saying look, this has to be more about your country and what you think about american freedoms and america's standings in the world than what it is about sort of what you think about maybe every single policy and democrat versus republican. take a listen to what vice president harris had to say on that topic, and what she had to say specifically about the danger she sees in donald trump. >> in many many ways donald trump is an unserious man. but the consequences of him being president of the united states are brutally serious. there are things that he says that will be the subject of skits and laughter and jokes. but words have meaning. coming from someone who aspires to stand behind the seal of the president of the united states.

>> and what was really interesting is that liz cheney says one of the reasons he is out campaigning is because she's a conservative, and she believes the faith in the constitution is the number one thing. there's something interesting that happened at this event. liz cheney also talked about abortion. she is someone who has been very clear that she believes in abortion restrictions. she posted on twitter right after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, celebrating that decision, agreeing with that decision, and today she told the crowd of pennsylvania voters, she as someone who was against abortion, that she has seen things in state legislatures that have put lives at risk, and anyone, even those who don't support abortion until the same way the vice president does, they should be concerned about this. it was interesting that she was both of course making the conversation about democracy. also putting in there women's choice and women's health. we're going to see more and more

of that also. it's an interesting thing to watch coming from a republican who had been so vocal about her stances on abortion. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you very much. dasha burns, thank you as well. joining me now is jeremy peters and staff writer for the new yorker, susan glasser. i guess what i'm trying to get at is donald trump is saying the stuff that ten years ago, before he ran the first time people would have said how could you get away with saying that. got away with it in 2016, didn't get away with it in 2020, back here in 2024. i'm wondering can we talk about what's at root here, the root of the issue, why there are so many voters who want to still vote for donald trump, why this election is still so, so, so close. what is fundamentally the issue here? >> yeah, katy. i think it's important. obviously we're having a little bit of kind of circular flash backs here. we're 9 years into this, having

the same conversation on some level about donald trump. i think what it underscores is how deeply partisan the american electorate is, and even millions of republicans who had misgivings about donald trump, many of them leaders in the party, billionaires who i wrote about, they publicly denounced donald trump after his effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. they called him a disgrace. they called him a terrible person, and they have gone ahead and endorsed donald trump anyways. i think that tells you, first and foremost about the triumph of a reflexive, almost blind partisanship in this country right now, you know, beyond the hard core of the maga faithful. there's millions of other republicans who are supporting donald trump. without them, donald trump wouldn't be a serious competitor in this election. so i think that's number one. number two, i would just point out the fallacy that here we are eight years into this, and we're trending like, oh, he says these crazy things, then there's a serious policy discourse that his campaign is having about the

economy and immigration, and i would reject that and say that that is a false frame that's convenient for his campaign to say, well, gee, sorry donald trump is saying this crazy stuff but we have this serious message about immigration and the economy. donald trump's policy prescriptions such as they are, he was interviewed last week, you know, by the editor and chief of bloomberg news, and he couldn't describe an economic plan to speak of. he's thrown out wild numbers for the amount of tariffs that he is going to impose on the entire economy. experts have judged that his plans would add significantly to the deficit. significantly to inflation. donald trump's real campaign slogan is, just vote for me and i will make everything better. >> i think we're talking about the billionaires and corporations that might be supporting him. i think what you're seeing, jeremy is a transactional issue. donald trump is going to be the person to deliver that. i can understand why they're ignoring what he's saying. they like the policies that he

enacted before the promises that he maybe might be making in private. we've heard the sound bites of millionaires and billionaires. how about the regular folks that are coming out to these rallies? is it just an emotional feeling for them. is it a feeling of the system is broken, and i want someone, again, who's going to come and club it over the head? >> yeah, i think they are tooting out a lot of the noise, the various ridiculous things that he said, the threats he's made to persecute his enemies. i think the people who are undecided don't -- they either don't know that that's happening or they don't care, and what they want is a life that is a little less expensive and easier. and it ultimately comes down to that. voting is not a moral choice for them. it's not about the functioning of american democracy. it's about making their life easier. >> just not to put any shade on charlie, the guy we had on up top, but there are a lot of people out there, susan, there are enough people out there that

have not decided. and they're not folks that are watching cable news every day. they're not reading newspapers every day, political stories every day. they're people that are going to go out as he said and look at past stuff, when they have the time to do it, and decide what they're going to be voting on. his issues were ai. they were abortion. it was inflation he was worried about. he's going to go back and do his research on both of the candidates, and he's going to come away with a decision. there is a small sliver of folks who are still going to do that. those are the ones that are going to be deciding this election. i'm thinking or i'm wondering do you think the democrats feel good right now given the state of the polls, given how close it is. do they feel like they're doing -- they have made the right choices and they're on the right path. >> look, democrats are congenitally prone to panic. the term bedwetting was invented by a democratic strategist to describe how democrats

approached the few weeks before an election. donald trump has the opposite approach, he goes in with the big, brash, over confidence and seeks to turn that into reality. in a way, we're getting from both sides a sense of, well, maybe trump will be winning. if trump wins, i will say this, you know, democrats in 2016 were shocked when he won. i don't think that that's going to happen this time around. people are very well aware of the possibility of trump winning and how very close it is. but, again, what's striking in this moment in time is, you know, how donald trump's followers basically a giving him a pass on anything he would do and say. and that strikes me as really making it even harder for us to understand whether this campaigning at the last minute really matters, whether these undecided voters matter. both campaigns in many ways are appealing to their electorate and seeking to get them out. it's not so much persuasion

anymore as it is about mobilization in this very divided country. >> i guess the question is kamala harris giving enough to voters who are still making up their minds? because, again, there are a handful of voters who are still making up their minds. is she giving them enough to convince them to vote for her. donald trump is a known quantity. i don't know that it would matter. if he stopped campaigning today, i don't think it would make much of a difference. he clearly can say pretty much anything. >> the polling shows that. you ask voters, do they know enough about donald trump, resoundingly the answer is yes. with kamala harris, she's going to have to work at that. she hasn't been a candidate for president. >> doing a lot of interviews, though. >> that's what i was going to say. look at the podcast, not that the staff just threw a dart at a dart board, very strategically selected, that reach nearby parts of the persuadable electorate. >> do they think he's clear enough? >> the clarity is not always her

strong suit, and, you know, when you contrast her with somebody like donald trump, you pretty much know what he's saying, every time he opens his mouth, for better or worse. she does have a messaging problem. but i think that what she has going for her is the way trump has behaved over the last couple of weeks, this kind of recklessness. we have seen this from him bmp, before. a lot of people have forgotten or a lot of people remember it and say, oh it wasn't so bad. but the more he's out there shooting himself in the foot like this, i think the worse it is for him among these undecides. >> that's what democrats have been saying, once donald trump gets out in front of the american public again, showing who he is, saying things like schlonged and talking about golfers or whatever, americans would look at that and say, i don't know if i can do four more

years of this, this constant, you know, flood of donald trump wild stream of consciousness, you know, enemies from within or schlonged or whatever. susan glasser, i'm thinking back to four years ago and what it was like. susan glasser, jeremy peters, a hell of a time to be in news. thank you as well. still ahead, some of his so-called enemies from within. what republican leaders are saying in defense of the former president, this is going to make you feel like his presidency all over again. plus, can we count on the polls? steve kornacki and what makes it so hard to get the numbers right. first, though, early voting is underway in more than two dozen states. what we know about the turnout, and what the turnout will tell us about who's ahead. we are back in 90 seconds. we are back in 90 seconds. here o every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need,

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cruz. . >> reporter: we saw huge lines at the polling location that we went to just outside dallas, and the poll workers there were even surprised at the volume and consistency of those long lines. it wasn't as if they were just dealing with an early morning rush or a lunch rush. the lines were long. consistently the entire time. that's probably because it was the first day, and people were anxious to cast their ballot. in fact, colin allred, who you mentioned is challenging the incumbent, ted cruz in the race for senate, among those casting his ballot today. and these voters that we talked to who were in line today say that they are anxious to make sure their vote is heard and that in this year in particular, they believe that there is a lot at stake. take a listen to what some of them told us. >> in general, texas has not been super competitive at the national level. >> no. >> reporter: do you feel like this year could be different? >> i hope so. i have done some volunteering, and i have talked to some people and found that more people are

activated this time around. >> reporter: do you feel like people are really engaged? are people talking about the election a lot? do you find when you're at church or work or school or are people sick of it and ready for it to be over with? >> all of the above. >> true. >> reporter: and that was pretty consistent with all of the voters that we talked to today, and that senate race in particular is drawing a lot of attention, you know, for a long time democrats thought they could turn texas blue, they're not competing at the presidential level here. there have been tens of millions of dollars that have flooded into the state as part of the competitive senate race, including an injection of cash from the senate majority pack, a democratic leaning super pac that's going to throw multimillion dollars in this race in the 11th hour. it would still be a surprise if colin allred were to win, katy. it's one of the only opportunities that democrats have to pick up a seat in a map that is very difficult for them, if they want to hold on to the majority in the united states senate. >> ryan nobles, thank you very

much. joining us now, senior editor and elections analyst with the cook political report, david wasserman. can we focus on texas for a moment. it's going to be a case study, i feel likes, going forward, because of the incredibly strict abortion laws in that state. we saw the graphic, that 50% of the vote is democrat. the other 43% is republican with 7% unaffiliated, it appears from that graphic, i was watching. do you think texas is actually in play? could it be -- could it be a case study going forward? >> well, first of all, katy, it's hazardous to read anything into early voting data. we don't know who they are voting for, and doesn't tell us anything about what the nature of the final electorate will be. texas is a legitimately competitive senate race because ted cruz is uniquely polarizing figure who went to cancun in 2021, and colin all red is raising as much as beto did six

years ago. the difficulty for allred is we are not seeing the level of support among hispanic voters, particularly south texas and along the border in polls that democrats would need and to win statewide, they need everything to go right. >> what about the rest of the country. almost all of the states are early voting right now. are there any indicators that you can suss out two weeks away? >> the only indicator from the report breaking turnout data is among the people paying closest attention to the election, it's like a new iphone going on sale. people cannot wait to get to the polls. when we're looking at surveys in the seven battleground states, you know, the polling is so tight that polls aren't precise enough to really be able to tell us who's ahead, and one commonality is that neither trump nor harris is at 50% in

the averages in any of these seven states, which begs the question, who the heck are these undecided people who still cannot make up their minds two weeks out from election day. in our research, what we know is that they skew younger, a little bit more diverse, and they skew a little bit more female than the rest of the electorate. but they are also less college educated, they're overwhelmingly independents and they hold negative views of both candidates. 68% say they view kamala harris as too liberal to effectively govern the country. the warning sign for harris is that by 55-26, they trust trump more than harris to bring inflation under control which means that her closing argument as the prosecutor in this race has to be about the economy and creating what she calls the

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we are in the last innings before election day and americans are searching for answers, and they're looking to the polls to try to get the questions answered. how much can you trust the numbers. nbc news national political correspondent steve kornacki looks behind the curtain to see how pollsters are trying to understand 2024. >> hello, my name is dawn. >> hello, my name is annette. >> reporter: this is perhaps the second hardest part of modern day polling. >> sorry that we missed you. >> sorry we missed you. >> reporter: getting voters to pick up the phone and answer. >> i have had days where i just dialed and dialed and dialed and got no surveys. >> reporter: that feeds into the hardest part of polling, getting it right. >> we really want to represent everyone's views in our poll. >> reporter: after a surprise donald trump win in 2016. >> the polling missed the 2016

election outcome. >> reporter: and a surprisingly close outcome in 2020. >> a lot of folks are waking up and saying why were these seeming to be so off. >> reporter: quinnipiac university's poll director doug schwartz and others like him have tweaked their methods to better predict who will win in november. >> how do you think about that in terms of what happened there and what you're doing now? >> some pollsters are thinking it's because they missed the trump voter and then for us, we don't feel like we missed reaching the trump voter, we got the trump voter. they were in our poll, but they didn't tell us how they would vote. this time around, we're better prepared. >> reporter: so they're rephrasing their questions. >> if the election for president were being held today. >> reporter: doing everything they can to reach those who are hard to reach. >> our motto is we try hard to reach the hard to reach people. we keep dialing. >> their new methodology showing results. >> we tested that in 2022. we had one of our most accurate

elections ever. >> reporter: experts point to a variety of reasons for past errors. trump voters who may avoid surveys and pollsters trying to predict who will actually turn out to vote. >> polling is always hard because as a pollster, i need to try to make it look like what i think the elect rat is going to look. >> will it be more republican or democratic, how many first time voters. >> it's a 50/50 coin toss in whether or not the polling is going to be right. >> these are the poll averages in all the battleground states. if those polls are off the same way they were in 2016 and 2020. donald trump is in great shape, but these poll errors don't always happen in the same direction. if they're off by the same amount but this time underestimating democrats, this is what those states would look like. >> how much attention have you been paying to the election. >> reporter: everybody is asking are the polls going to actually get it right this year, what do you say to that? >> i think so at least in terms of high quality polls. i think people need to remember

it's an estimate, a range, don't expect perfection. >> reporter: polling perfection is hard to reach. >> she dropped me. darn it. >> reporter: as some voters. joining us now, nbc news national political correspondent steve kornacki, so that gentleman, last gentleman said, yes, the good quality polls are going to be on the mark, which ones are the good quality polls? >> he thinks he's got one there at quinnipiac. basically the key he was saying, and i think you heard him in the piece, they feel they were able to get trump voters on the phone in 2020, but they couldn't get them to actually say they were voting for trump. it wasn't that they were saying they were voting for biden. he felt they didn't push them hard enough. he says now when that happens, somebody seems hesitant, you know, the interviewer will say, if you had to choose, or some language like that. he says they feel, and they checked this in 2022, that that gets people off the fence. >> what is the percentage on the

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donald trump has now -- >> gangs of violent people destroying public property. >> he's literally talking about democrats. >> no, he's not, jake. no, he's not. >> we clipped the audio up top there, but that was jake tapper trying to ask speaker mike johnson about donald trump's enemies from within comment and who he's talking about. he's repeated that comment over multiple weeks. he's even clarified them, gotten more specific about who the enemies might be, and republican leadership continues to dismiss donald trump when he says he would punish or prosecute his political opponents as a final pitch to voters. joining us now, senior editor at the atlantic, and former bush

economic speech writer david frum. just to remind everybody what donald trump specifically said the most recent time about enemies from within, let me play that sound. listen. >> these are bad people. we have a lot of bad people. when you look at shifty schiff and some of the others, yeah, they are to me the enemy from within. i think nancy pelosi is an enemy from within. >> all right. so why aren't republicans taking him at his word? >> well, republicans would like us to cover tax ideas as if they were real news, the tax on tips proposals, removing tax on social security. the president has very little authority over taxes and the president has a lot of authority over his law enforcement. the president can direct department of justice to do this thing or that thing. the president also has enormous authority over immigration enforcement.

he can round up people. what we are being invited to do is take seriously the things can't do, and not to take seriously the things that a president could do. >> why are they telling us not to take it seriously? >> because trump is in trump mode where he is actually decompressing, disinhibiting, saying the things he wants to do, revealing who he really is. presidents often make promises that they are not able to execute, even with the best will in the world. but voters hear those things as indicators of the direction in which a president wants to go. a lot of the things that kamala harris is saying she wants to do, that will depend on whether she gets democratic house and senate or not. if she doesn't, she probably won't be able to do those things. at least her vote is no. here's where her heart is. here's where she wants to go, here's what she will try to do. donald trump is telling people what he will try to do, and even if in the end he feels, it's important information to know what he will try to do, and it's his constitutional duty to see

that his laws are faithfully and impartially execute sgld here's what liz cheney is saying who will be around to stop him or not stop him. take a listen to her. >> i do not have faith that mike johnson will fulfill his constitutional obligationings, and -- obligations and if you just look at what he did in 2020, he knew and knew with specificity that the claims of donald trump was making and he repeated, he knew those to be false. we had very clear and specific conversations about that. he knew that courts had specifically found that those claims were false. he has a record repeatedly of doing things that he knows to be wrong, that he knows to be unconstitutional in order to placate donald trump. >> so she's saying that there's not going to be the mike pences of the world there to limit donald trump if he gets elected again. >> let me tell you a story,

richard nixon used to get drunk and take pills and say things he didn't mean. he called for the tax returns of the adversaries, the head of the irs reported to his boss, george shultz, what do i do, the president has asked me to do an illegal thing, and secretary schultz said the first time the president of the united states asks you to do any illegal thing, you didn't hear it, and the second time, you quit. there were people who didn't hear it when the president asked him to do illegal things. the second term, he'll be surrounded by people who will hear it and won't quit. >> a big theme from when he was in office between 2017 and 2021. it's a big theme again even on the some of the more outrageous comments. i'm going to play a sound bite between jake tapper about what donald trump's closing message is.

>> is this the closing message you want to hear about donald trump, stories about arnold palmer's penis? >> well, listen, i think the headline i read about the rally in pennsylvania yesterday was the big question, and it's the one that kamala harris has not been able or willing to answer, and that is are you better off now than you were under the trump administration. >> why is he talking about arnold palmer's penis in front of pennsylvania voters? >> i get it. there's lines in a rally. when president trump is at a rally, sometimes he'll speak for two straight hours. you're questioning his stamina, his mental acuity, joe biden couldn't do that for five minutes. >> not to be gratuitous. this is not jake tapper deciding to ask that about thin air. it's what donald trump is bringing up at his rallies. the question i had up top, if it's not about the wild things he says what is really at the root of why he still maintains so much support in this country?

>> donald trump's message is, hey, if there are decencies of life, i don't obey them. if there are rules and restrictions if there are things that people are supposed to do and not do, i don't listen to any of that. i put in a fork in the eye, i make noises that you don't expect to hear people make in the oval office. i'm just out of control, and there are people who like that. there are people who feel that i think a lot of rules and decencies are inhibiting. they don't let them be the person he wants to be. for every person who wanting to be a bigger loud mouth and meaner character, the sunday school teachers and pastors and good forces want them took, donald trump is liberating. here's this guy, this powerful rich guy, and he doesn't obey any rules. maybe if he's in charge, you get to obey a few more rules, and be more of the jerk you secretly want to be. >> david frum, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, what elon musk

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for a retaliatory strike against iran and according to two u.s. officials, they could be real and they're trying. what does it say about the conflict over the federal government over the war in gaza? >> the big question is how did this happen. we heard from john kirby today. the administration is not officially saying these documents are authentic and they are intelligence documents produced by the u.s. government. kirby was talking about how concerned they are about how these things made it into the public domain. so again, while they're not confirming they're legitimate documents, they're not really denying it either. u.s. officials are saying that the u.s. is investigating exactly what happened here. but again, the big question is how could something labeled top secret highly classified like potential israeli military movements as you mentioned, the

possibility of what israel could do to retaliate against iran for their ballistic missile attack from a couple of years ago. how israel could be posturing for a possible response back from iran. how could that be made public and what this does is underscore how there have been a number of similar disclosures or leaks of classified documents in recent years. how this has become really such a persuasive problem for the u.s. government and that's what the u.s. is looking into right now. now, officially, u.s. officials are telling us they don't believe these documents themselves really damage u.s. national security in any way, but they do show that the u.s. was for all intents and purposes, spying or watching israel to see how they were moving their military assets around for this possible retaliation against iran and it underscores that the u.s. again really doesn't know exactly what israel is planning or when they are planning to retaliate here. >> courtney, thank you very

much. and worth over $270 billion. elon musk is already the richest person in the world and yet he stands to gain even more if donald trump is elected again. from "the new york times" his companies were already promised across 3 billion last year with 17 federal agencies. and it's not just financial gain. musk's companies have been targeted in at least 20 recent investigations from federal regulators, reviews that could go away entirely under a president intent on deregulating. joining us now, christine romans. so donald trump might give musk the power of the regulatory office. what could that mean? >> well, congress would have to be involved here, too. talking about cutting a lot of government spending, you would need congress to be involved in that as well. and musk said he's going to keep his other jobs so this looks like more of an advisory type role. he's also called it the

department of government efficiency, doge, which i think is a nod to the crypto. so there's a lot of musk's personality in this. but you mentioned the possible conflicts here. he's regulated. he's been fined by the sec for how he handled himself at twitter. he has a space company. he has a car company. he has a satellite company. huge government contract. so he is a contract with the u.s. government, also regulated by the u.s. government. haven't really seen something like this before. >> what about this idea, not this idea, but money giveaway for voting he's doing. does that violate federal law? >> it has certainly raised the attention of a lot of the campaign finance people. you look at at federal election authorities. it is illegal to buy someone's vote. to pay someone to register to vote. he has not explicitly said i'm

going to pay you to register to vote, but if you are, you can enter this lottery and sign my proclamation for what we believe in in the government and you can win $1 million. so is it just on the other side of legal? the fine i think is $10,000. he has $270 billion. so it really has raised a lot of eyebrows. >> unless it's $10,000 per dollar giveaway, i'm not sure how this would worry elon musk. really thank you, thank you very much for being us. i appreciate it. that is going to do it for me today on this monday. deadline white house starts after a very short break. don't go anywhere. s after a very short break don't go anywhere. for a clean even mom approves of. that reach! making hard to reach... so easy. swiffer. wow. the mother of all cleans. love it or your money back! do your dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired?

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