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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> he's not just running on slogans. when people ask him questions, he speaks from the heart. sometimes that means he's going to talk about issues the mainstream media isn't focused on. >> arnold palmer is all man. this man is strong and tough. i refuse to say it, but when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there, they said oh, my god. that's unbelievable. >> trump's closing message to pennsylvania. a crude reminiscence about a deceased golfing legend whose daughter says he was appalled by trump. also tonight, trump's billionaires. what elon musk and his fellow pay master will extract from the cognitively declining
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septagenarian if he returns to the white house. don't believe trump has all the advantages in this election. we'll break down the numbers that actually matter. and we begin tonight with a question. if you were to find out a year from now that donald trump was diagnosed with dementia, how would you tell? how would his behavior be any different than what we have seen over the past several weeks including today and this past weekend when he delivered a vulgar, foul-mouthed attack on vice president kamala harris, had a bizarro photo op at a closed mcdonald's where he falsely accused harris of lying about working there, and accused "60 minutes" of deceitful editing of its interview with harris, vowing to subpoena the show's records. cbs rejects trump's claims and noted it was trump who pulled out of his interview with "60
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minutes" and the vice president who showed up to participate. >> i wasn't a washington person. i was a new york person. when i went to washington, all of a sudden i'm standing in the white house. >> and in an effort to woo voters in the city he recently insulted, trump stumped in detroit, where technical difficulties forced him to wander around aimlessly for 20 minutes after his mic cut out, rendering him speechless for once. he then kicked off a rally with a weird, very detailed story about arnold palmer which referenced the late legendary golfer's genitalia. >> i'm going to tell them the real story of arnold. but arnold palmer was all man. i say that in all due respect to women, and i love women. but this guy, this guy -- this is a guy that was all man. this man was strong and tough. and i refuse to say it, but when
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he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there, they said oh, my god. that's unbelievable. >> ew. now for the record, arnold palmer's daughter said in 2018, that her father, who died in september 2016, made noises of disgust when trump appeared on the television. she also said her father, who was a conservative and friendly with dwight d. eisenhower, wanted no part of trump's politics. so this is where we are in american politics, with just 15 days to go before one of the most consequential elections in modern u.s. history, and as much as you might want to laugh at trump, it's not funny. there is nothing particularly humorous about what he wants to do. his hitler talking points about the enemy from within are very real. despite the protestations of
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speaker smiek johnson and other cronies that trump was talking about the brown bogeyman, trump himself doubled down on the enemy from within being fellow americans and he said january 6th was, quote, actually a beautiful thing and a day of love. then you have his running mate, jd vance, playing the rhetoric down, because what's a trump vice president other than a maga door mat making excuses about the boss? vance and others deflect the horror of what trump says by claiming those of us who warn about him just have trump derangement syndrome and there's nothing to fear since he didn't go after his enemies during his first term. except that's simply untrue. it wasn't that long ago when all of this was taking place, "the washington post" broke down what trump did while in power. he pressed then attorney general jefferson sessions to order an investigation of hillary clinton. he scolded the justice department for failing to investigate clinton.
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he demanded investigations of barack obama over the phony spygate claims. he told the white house counsel's office that he wanted to order the justice department to investigate hillary clinton and former fbi director james comey. he threatened to prosecute georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger if he refused to help trump find the necessary votes to win the state he lost. and he pressed ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy to open an investigation, a fake investigation of biden, who was planning to run for president. aka, why he was impeached the first time. add to that the fact his justice department literally locked up trump's former attorney, michael cohen, after he testified against him in congress and to a grand jury and wrote an unflattering book. all that happened when trump was president. the difference now is that the normie republicans and military generals who told trump no, you can't shoot protesters in the
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leg or declare war on mexico or shut down cbs for not kissing your behind, those people are gone, replaced by a legion of maga suck-ups and third rate right wing trolls who will do whatever trump says. and the supreme court transformed under maga has emboldened him even further, granting trump nearly total immunity, even if he commits crimes in office. a second term will feature cabinet members like michael flynn who trump has suggested will be back in a second administration and who said the gates of hell would be unleashed under trump. and people like felon steve bannon and child separation vampire stephen miller. which is why democratic vice president kamala harris is holding events across three states today with conservative republican liz cheney, with a key message about what's actually at stake. >> don't think that congress can stop him. people say, well, you know what,
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he can't really do the worst because congress will step in. all he has to do is what he's doing, is say i won't fulfill our nato treaty obligations and nato begins to unravel. >> we have in our grasp the ability to determine the course of our country. you know, every election, we say this is the one. this is the one. this truly is the one. >> joining me now is david jolly, msnbc political analyst and former republican congressman. and christina greer, associate professor of political science at fordham university and author of the forthcoming book, how to build a democracy. thank you both for being here. i want to start with you first, david, because you were in congress. when liz cheney said that, i thought it was chilling. when people say it's tds to say trump won't do all these bad things because he didn't do it the first time, number one, he did. but he was stopped by the regular people in government and
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even in his cabinet who said even if they were right wingers, you cannot do that. they wouldn't be there. what do you make of liz cheney's warning that congress wouldn't stop him? >> the problem we face as a nation is bigger than donald trump, the candidate and the president. it's trumpism that has infected the republican party. so it gives you enablers like jd vance and also mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham, and go down the list of people, republicans who know better but have decided that they are okay with donald trump really shredding the constitution if it means republicans have a shot at winning and serving in power. the problem is there is also no payback for them. donald trump is fiercely unloyal and they have no policies they're advancing, and it's minority power. this is a man who never won the popular vote and this year will likely get 48% of the vote, but it remains a real threat. look, my wishful thinking and i
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realize i even think this might happen, when you mention the generals who worked for him, the joint chiefs who worked for him, if they really think he is dangerous to the nation, i think their honor is now on the line as well to have some type of press event that breaks the news cycle and at least reaches medium and low information voters and says, we believe this man truly is a danger, not telling it to bob woodward. hold a press conference, do something public before the election that expresses the danger they see in donald trump as a leader because the danger is real. >> george w. bush, former president hasn't said anything yet. this is how people are feeling. kamala harris, vice president harris, she addressed today the extreme anxiety people are feeling out there, and i thought did it in a way that is one of her best rhetorical moments since i have been covering her as a politician. take a listen. >> there's an incredible strength when our democracy is intact. an incredible strength in what
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it does to protect the freedoms and rights of its people. oh, there's great strength in that. and it is very fragile. it is only as strong as our willingness to fight for it. and so that's the moment we're in. and i say do not despair because in a democracy as long as we can keep it, in our democracy, the people, every individual has the power to make a decision about what this will be, and so let's not feel powerless. let's not let -- i get it, overwhelming nature of this all make us feel powerless because then we have been defeated. and that's not our character as the american people. >> and christina, the reason people feel scared and powerless is this is what donald trump has said he will do with power. he wants to jail top officials,
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invokes military tribunals. he wants to put to death people like mark milley. he floats the idea of executing milley. he wants to take cbs's broadcast license because they did an interview with harris that wasn't trashing her. he wants to give police, quote, one violent day to stop crime. so he wants to go maduro on american citizens and unleash the police against, and we know what those people will look like. that's why people are afraid. talk about that fear but also vice president harris' response. >> oh, joy. so many people come up to me and they literally stare me in the eyes and say, what is going to happen? i have to remind them, i'm a political scientist, not a political psychic. i echo what the vice president has said, which is our democracy is a series of daily decisions that we must make collectively as a people. and i think a lot of democrats sort of had questions asked and questions answered and we put our democracy in a frame and looked at it and patted ourselves on the back and say we have accomplished it, but we
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have to fight for it. as we have seen, republicans have been fighting to dismantle a lot of hard-fought wins we had. beyond roe v. wade, i'm talking about the voting rights protections, environmental protections, the list goes on and on. so hopefully, there are enough people who are doing the hard work, beyond just being scared, what always helps me when i'm overwhelmed by something, is to do the thing. so if you're having anxiety about writing, you know this, joy, you have a best selling book. it's to just get writing. so i tell people now, if they're nervous about november 5th, then actually door knock if you're in a swing state. get on those robocalls and call people. talk to your relatives. there are a lot of people who are still on the fence because of misogyny, because of racism, because of these undecided factors that they can't seem to put their hand on and also can't seem to vote for a woman. remind those people the longitudinal importance of getting kamala harris into office. i know no candidate is perfect, no president has ever been perfect. but in this particular election,
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domestically and internationally, as you laid out so eloquently, we cannot have someone who is cognitively impaired and also has laid out his criminal intents for the american people. we have to understand the stakes of this election. i think that hard work these next two weeks will help people assuage some of their anxiety. >> let me play two sound bites. one is donald trump himself saying what he would do in another term and the other is michael cohen saying what was done to him. >> i wasn't a washington person. i was a new york person. so when i went to washington, all of a sudden i'm standing in the white house opposite the lincoln bedroom, and i say, man, this is so amazing. but i didn't really know too many. i had to rely on people to give me recommendations to be secretary of this, secretary of that. all big stuff. i didn't know anybody. now, i have been there four years plus another four that i'm sort of there in a way. i know the best people.
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to me, it's all about people. you have to have the right people. we have the best people lined up. we're going to do a great job. >> when i refused to sign that fraudulent counterfeit document, they handcuffed, shackled me, threw me into a freezer, and then returned me to solitary confinement totaling now 51 days of solitary confinement. so when donald trump tells you what he wants to do, what he intends to do, understand, he has already done it before, and you should listen to what he is saying because he intends to do it again. >> david jolly your thoughts. >> okay, i think the danger in these threats has already taken hold. it's not that if he gets elected he might do it. it's the impact is already happening. the quieting of critics. people looking over their shoulder. folks like the three of us and others involved in politics wondering, am i really willing to put my family through being vocal in my criticism of donald trump. the threat itself has already
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taken hold. the best remedy is to defeat him. >> let me play one more sound bite. this is donald trump today, talking about when he thinks america was great. >> i will invoke the alien enemies act of 1798. think of that. 1798. that's when we had real politicians that said we're not going to play games. we have to go back to 1798. >> christina greer, you have ten seconds to respond to that. >> it's vile, and it's real. and i really hope that especially as the data has shown us, white americans talk to their family members and help them get to the polls to understand no one will actually be out of the sights of donald trump. >> 1798. the alien enemies act, giving donald trump whose brain don't work so good that power, it strikes me as the most dangerous thing you could possibly do. david and christina, thank you both. >> coming up, right wing
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billionaires want trump to be elected real bad, and the threat is highest from elon musk who is trying to help trump win in the most insidious way. we'll dive into that next. we'll dive into that next. cool right? look at this craftmanship. i mean they even got my nostrils right. it's just nice to know that years after i'm gone this guy will be standing the test of ti... he's melting! oh jeez... nooo... oh gaa... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ (sigh) if you struggle with cpap... you should check out inspire. no mask. no hose. just sleep.
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you don't even have to vote. you don't have to vote. you just have to sign a petition saying you believe in the constitution. >> tech billionaire and online troll elon musk who just two years ago said for his company, x, formerly known as twitter, to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral, is becoming a mainstay on the campaign trail, going all in to elect donald trump. it's not just his million dollar giveaways which are raising new legal questions but the tens of millions of dollars he's funneling into political groups and he's not alone. in fact, he's among three of the world's wealthiest people helping to prop up trump alongside conservative donor miriam adelson and rujer uihlein, who combined have donated nearly $220 million to groups backing trump during just the most recent three-month period tracked by the federal election commission. we can thank the supreme court's 2010 citizens united decision
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for allowing that one. and as columnist david rothkopf writes, it's understandable why we may be seeing this billionaire coup trying to buy our democracy. a billionaire presidential candidate wins the support of the super rich by promising the one thing that matters to them, more wealth. he will cut taxes, eliminate regulations. more corporate revenues will make it to the bottom line and under trump, they can keep more and moref it. these billionaires don't care about anything else. and as much as trump would like you to believe he cares about the little guy, there truly is one group of people trump actually cares about and who would wield the real power in a second trump administration. billionaires like elon musk. david rothkopf joins me now. he's a columnist for the daily beast. i want to show you, this is something i think people don't even remember when they look at how wacky elon musk is.
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u.s. agencies that elon musk has a stake in, because his presidency would give him huge power over literal federal agencies, this guy is a massive federal contractor. and we have a chart here. like a graphic, to show you just how many federal contracts this man has. it's actually frightening to me, when i saw it, it was shocking to me. can we put it up? this is three. element three. do we have it? while we pull it, we're going to talk to you. this guy has massive amounts of federal contracts, including defense contracts. your thoughts. >> he's got lots of conflicts of interest with what he is doing right now. but you know, for trump, they're not conflicts of interest, they're the reason you get into politics. trump got into politics to make money. the people who support trump are supporting trump because he will help them make money. when he was president before, the only real legislative
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accomplishment he had was a tax cut that gave three times as much tax savings to the top 5% as it did to the bottom 60% added up. that's what he does. remember, a few months ago, he was in front of a bunch of oil execs, and he said if you give me a billion dollars, i'll get rid of all those regulations you don't want. this is all transactional. everything for him is transactional. and it is for musk. and it is for those other donors. and you know, you have this very bizarre situation. a billionaire running with a vice president who was picked by billionaires who has only ever worked for one particular billionaire in his life, who is getting most of his money from billionaires, whose campaign is largely being run right now by musk, a billionaire. who is doing the worst possible things you can imagine, from perpetuating the big lie to doing commercials that tell
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people in michigan who are arab in background that kamala harris likes jews and tells people in michigan who are jewish in background that kamala harris likes arabs. so it's billionaires doing their billionaire thing in the worst possible way to get a lot from us, to exploit us, to fleece us. this is -- this makes the robber barrons of the 1890s and early 20th century look, you know, feeble and public spirited by contrast. >> yeah, and i think people cannot miss this at all. jd vance was literally picked by peter thiel, who is his only ever employer. he has 18 months as experience as a senator. he was peter thiel's employee. he's essentially peter thiel's house pet. they picked this guy because, i mean, this is the theory that i think a lot of people are realizing. oh, they know donald trump's
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brain is broken. but they can wield power through jd vance. who is already their play thing. this would literally be government put in place by working class people, because that's his base, voted in by working class people that will only serve billionaires. >> yeah, and you know, look, you're watching donald trump. i'm watching donald trump. every single day, he is declining more profusely. this is a weekend at bernie's presidential candidacy. he's not going to be an effective president. if he's not the president or if he's not an effective president, you have to ask, who is going to be calling the shots? and the answer is these billionaires and who are they acting on behalf of? the american people or other billionaires or just themselves? and we know that. now, they also don't much like democracy. musk has said a lot of racist things. musk and vance and a bunch of the others are real pro-putin,
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so they're not just greedy. they're also evil. but other than that, perfectly normal politics. >> it's -- and also, they're immigrants. what's so fascinating is that the way they're levering themselves in is by attacking immigrants. they themselves are immigrants, so they couldn't be president, but how convenient would it be to have a broken brained senior citizen as the titular president and your employee actually running the country while donald trump is off golfing or licking ice cream cones or whatever it is he would be doing or talking about dead men's nether regions. david rothkopf, i'll take that one. and not put that on you. thank you very much. appreciate it. coming up, michigan is going to be crucial for harris and trump. and both candidates have significant baggage in the state. we'll talk to famed michigander michael moore about what the candidates need to do to win, next. o to win, next
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today, vice president kamala harris was back in michigan, where early in-person voting is under way in parts of the state. as part of a blue wall multistate blitz with liz cheney courting disaffected republican voters, including those in suburban detroit. >> i believe what is at stake in this election is so fundamental
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for us as americans. do we prioritize a president of the united states who cares about rule of law. what i think most of us believe, regardless of your party affiliation, that the real measure of the straight of a leader is based on who you lift up. >> it's a continued sign of how important michigan and its 15 electoral college votes are this year. over the weekend, the vice president held a rally with singer lizzo in detroit. and former first lady michelle obama will join harris on saturday for a rally to kick off state-wide early voting in michigan. both vice president harris and donald trump blanketed michigan friday, as they try to shore up support amid some baggage in the state. vice president harris is facing opposition from michigan's large arab american and muslim communities over the biden administration's support of israel's war in gaza. while donald trump tried to clean up a mess after insulting the state's largest city and belittling michigan's many
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autoworkers. >> take a look at detroit. take a look at our cities. we're a developing nation. we have to develop more than they do. mercedes-benz will start building in the united states. they build everything in germany, and then they assemble it here. they get away with murder because they say, oh, yes, we're building cars. they don't build cars. they take them out of a box and assemble them. we could have a child do it. >> joining me is michigander michael moore, academy-award winning filmmaker and host of the michael moore podcast. thank you for being here. you generally have a good sense of how your state is trending. how is it looking? which of the two candidates' messages seem to be resonating? >> i felt -- certainly since july, that we were going to win michigan. i still feel that way. the only thing i'm worried about is the fact that biden and harris got 70% of the arab american and muslim american vote in detroit, in michigan, back in 2020.
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70%. as of may, due to the gaza war, the vote had dropped to 12% of the arab voters in michigan. it's back up now, now that harris is the candidate, to about 43%. but it was 70% back in 2020 for harris and for biden. so we have a lot of work to do in michigan to convince mainly there's about 2 million non-voters, people generally who don't vote but are elvable to vote who don't vote. we just need to convince about 40,000 of them to show up in a state where hillary lost by 10,000 votes, two votes per precinct. we have to do that, and there were 75,000 voters in 2016 when hillary did lose, 75,000 michiganders, mostly in democratic districts, left the top line on the ballot blank, presidential line. didn't like trump, didn't like hillary, and we ended up,
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michigan in the trump category. so i and others are trying to make sure that doesn't happen. but i'm not asking muslim or arab americans, especially these are our neighbors in michigan. they have lost family members. they have lost people they know in their community in gaza, in the west bank, in lebanon. we'll make up the votes in other ways. i'm not going to insult them by asking them to vote for, in their minds, what they say to me and to others, this administration funded netanyahu and funded this war. and you can say to them, yeah, but you know trump is going to be a lot worse. and they're like, yeah, we remember. he wouldn't let us travel. that's what trump did, a travel ban against us. american tax dollars have funded the war and have paid for the bombs and the slaughter, and i just -- i'm sorry, i'm just a
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white guy. i'm not going to ask my neighbors in detroit who are arab and muslim to go against their conscience. we'll take care of it, we'll make up the votes through the non-voters who are going to come out. and joy, as you know, this is going to be a tsunami of women voters in this election, in two weeks. i don't think some people, the pollsters, i don't know, i don't know if they understand how many women are going to come out. you can't tell 51% of the population that they don't have equal rights to their bodies that men have. it's just -- -- yeah, sorry. >> no, a couple things. you're saying you wouldn't go and tell arab and muslim american voters to do. on the other side, lara trump's father-in-law is doing that. with richard grenell. they are out there like really pushing and trying to stump for
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donald trump actively. our own -- one of our reporters went and talked to lebanese american voters who are very much opposed. there is an attempt on the other side, but i want to talk about some of the other -- >> fortunately, i'm not lara trump's father-in-law or anything like him. so i have a heart and i have -- i understand why. so instead of complaining about it or wagging my white boy finger at them to vote, i'm going to get out 40,000 other people who are usually non-voters but would vote for the democrat. we know who they are. we're getting them out. we're going door to door. we're not going to let michigan fall into trump's hands. >> let me ask you this, because donald trump did a couple stunts. his stunt pretending like he was working at mcdonald's, it was a closed mcdonald's. it was a complete stunt, bs. then he goes to north carolina, that was in pennsylvania. then he goes to north carolina and he gets a french fry pin, given to him by congressman who
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before had to get rid of disinformation that trump was spreading about the hurricane, and he was standing in front of hurricane damage, getting this pin. he's insulting detroit workers saying a child could do the work that autoworkers do. does that kind of stuff start to land? just the insult, the repeated insults against working men and women. >> absolutely. and over the weekend, he told the wives of michigan to get your fat husbands off the couch. to go vote. and it's like -- >> and it was in detroit. >> oh, he says america, america is going to end up like detroit. america should be so grateful that they end up like detroit. i mean, especially the way that detroit has come back, it is coming back. >> absolutely. >> and all the great things that are happening. but there's always that tacit racism involved in statements like that. oh, you're going to be like
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detroit. you know, it's like. >> black-run city. 80% black city. >> exactly right. you know, in cleveland, their city slogan is, cleveland, we're not detroit. okay. that's the kind of stuff we have to put up with as detroiters and flint people. but my last comment is get three people to go to the polls with you on election day. you have to get -- it's not -- if only you're voting once, you don't have three other people voting, we lose. everyone vote and get three others to vote. >> michael moore, you have given us the call and hopefully your fellow michiganders will listen. thank you very much. michael moore. coming up, everyone has been in a frenzy about polling and what early voting numbers mean. but we really all need to take a deep breath, a deep cleansing breath and calm down. we will have friends of the show simon rosenberg and tom bannier
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astronomical early voting in georgia, north carolina, and elsewhere, with more states coming online like florida, michigan, and nevada. roughly 14 million americans have already voted with more democrats showing up than republics. and more women than men have taken advantage of early voting. so what does it all actually mean? well, joining us now to answer that question is simon rosenberg, political strategist and arthur of the hopium chronicles and tom bonier, political strategist and the guy with the data. let me start with you, tom. we know now that according to usa suffolk poll, harris leads trump among early voters 63/34, of those who already voted monday. trump leads among those who say they plan to vote on election day. the number of newly registered voters. 49% are democrats, 17% unaffiliated. one last one, in the crucial state of michigan, the share of early voters who are black is 2.6 percentage points higher
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than 2020, according to you guys at target smart data. what do we actually know about how the early vote is looking? >> we know something a little surprising at this moment, that the expectation going into the early vote is we would see more democrats who voted early four years ago because of the pandemic would be pivoting back to election day, and meanwhile, republicans were going to do the opposite. donald trump told them four years ago voting by mail or early was fraudulent, and we know they have invested significantly in moving their people out to vote early. when we look at these national numbers now, the democratic margin is only two tenths of a point behind, this is in the battleground states. it was this point four years ago, which surprised me. it's driven by good numbers, especially over the past weekend, but the blue wall states, you mentioned michigan, seeing those big turnout numbers your were talking about detroit a minute ago. detroit is coming out very big, especially older black women
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with just really high turnout numbers. wisconsin, the same story. pennsylvania republicans have increased their vote share a bit, but 40% of the republican male voters so far voted on election day four years ago. so we're seeing pivoting. not a sign of intensity but sort of switching the vote mode. >> and that's the thing, people don't know, how much are you cannibalizing your election day vote if you have early voters and absentee voters. i think that's part of it. everybody is doing their own math in their head about how much of this is cannibalizing election day votes. but there are also people getting freaked out by individual state things. john rothson came out with this number that talks about the firewall is below what its average normally would be in clark county, which is a critical county in arizona, what are you seeing in nevada that tells you anything about what it's looking like on election
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day? >> just first, to reiterate something tom said y think the three states of the eight battlegrounds if you include nebraska too, where we're doing really well, and we should be encouraged, are michigan, wisconsin, and in nebraska, sort of overperforming, even sort of the standard of what we're seeing in the other states. which should give us a lot of optimism about what we're going to be able to do in the blue wall states, in particular, if you couple that with "the washington post" polling today which showed the vice president ahead in michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, i think we should be optimistic. we have a lot of work to do. it's going to be really close, but in the other states, the other five states, it's going to be a dog fight. it's going to be -- the republicans, as tom said, have pushed some of their vote
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>> yeah. they don't have a ground game, tom. that is the other piece of it. the ground game being funded by elon musk has been found to be largely fraudulent. it's not even real. they have not invested in the ground game. that aside, one of the things that is very clear. this is a woman driven election. does that tell us anything? when it comes to white women, they are mostly registered republicans. when i see numbers of republicans out there, i'm not sure how many are white republican women were not necessarily voting for trump. >> what is amazing to me with some of these numbers, especially the younger voters, we've been talking about this for over two years now. how the electorate and elections changed since dobbs.
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no evidence that that has let up one bit. when we look at younger voters, we know most younger voters are going to come out on election day. when you look at those who have come out, the gender gaps are bigger than they were two and four years ago. still a good sign, lots of work ahead of us. >> so you have people who subscribe to you on that. what is the thing that people should understand that will allow them to take a deep breath and calm down a bit? >> well, the polling, first of all, has been very steady since the debate. kamala harris has been up two, three, four points in national polling. things shifted a little bit at the end of last week because republicans dropped a whole bunch of polls and move the averages a little bit. there is no real evidence that the election is moving significantly. it has been remarkably steady. in the battleground state, it
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still looks very -- again, i think they are better for us than they are. as pointed out, you should be optimistic about what we are seeing. 2024 will not look like 2020 and 2022. the people trying to claim that republicans are doing better, of course they are going to do better. but we also have to see the vote of unaffiliated young people. to your point, the big unknown is how many of those republicans are voting for us? the bottom line is two weeks out, i would much rather be asked than them. >> all right, 479 breathing. mine is just ringing you guys in the show. thank you. coming up, a new lawsuit gives a stark reminder of one of trump's darkest moments. we will be right back. ht back. , oh, wow. look how white my teeth are.
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storm water trump, whose name was mispronounced by her father- in-law today in her home state of pennsylvania. she was on a week after harris was on the show. she spent the entire hour fact checking. >> that's the fact. you can look it up. >> i don't believe that's true at all. >> of the bipartisan border bill was so bad like you say, how many so many republicans were for it until donald trump said no? >> i don't think he intervened at all. he is not in elected office right now. >> you literally told them not to do it. >> i don't think that's true. >> it's policies. especially towards women. what do you think about that? >> which right? >> reproductive freedoms. a major issue in this election.
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you should very well know. she was also asked about trump's long and well- documented history of racism. >> a lot of people feel that trump is just racist and what you say to that? '73 is when he got sued for not renting to african-americans. '89 when he took the ad out in the paper. thing obama was not born here, show his birth certificate and more things. what do you say to that? >> i would say have never seen this man say a racist thing. i think the attacks are fairly lip why is that funny? >> i'm just laughing. it's hysterical. people act like there's no such thing as google. >> trump's racism, is again in focus today after members of the exonerated central park five sued trump for making false and defamatory statements during his one and only disastrous debate with vice president harris. >> the central park five
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admitted, they said they pled guilty. i said well if they pled guilty, they badly hurt the person, killed a person ultimately. and if they pled guilty, then they pled we are not guilty. >> the lawsuit includes a lawsuit of one of the exonerated five that they had with trump on debate night. yusef salaam confronting him over his statement in the spin room. and about having attacked him for the ad in 1989 calling for the death penalty for the children. where he wrote, quote, i want to hit these murderers and always will. i'm not looking to psychoanalyze her understand them. i'm looking to punish them. it's worth noting that the central park five were vacated in 2002. new york paid $41 million to settle the civil rights suit and meanwhile, a jury this year found trump liable for the sexual abuse and defamation of e. jean carroll. adjudicating the
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