tv Ana Cabrera Reports MSNBC October 22, 2024 7:00am-8:00am PDT
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the critical states the campaigns are eyeing with just 14 days left, and the new fears there could be cracks in the big blue wall. plus, the start of early voting in battleground wisconsin. can barack obama help democrats seal the deal? also ahead, control of congress. could this year's lone star senate race finally flip texas from red to blue? and later, could you spot a deepfake? the celebrities out with a new warning about a.i. and this election. great to have you with us. it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. it is crunch time, it is the final sprint, just two weeks to go in the 2024 race and today former president trump hosts a round table in miami, and he stumps in north carolina for the second straight day. vice president harris is off the trail in washington today, but perhaps her biggest surrogate is
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back on the trail, former president obama rallying in michigan and he'll join tim walz in wisconsin. the democrats focus on those two vital states and the so-called blue wall with pennsylvania is not accidental. it comes as nbc reports the harris campaign sees warning signs in michigan and wisconsin and is bracing for possible cracks in that wall. nbc's kelly o'donnell and vaughn hillyard are following the candidates for us. also with us, msnbc political analyst and former aide to republican house speakers ryan and boehner, brendan buck, and democratic pollster and msnbc political analyst fernand anand. let's start with you, vaughn. you had interesting reporting about trump's events yesterday, you said he seemed very confident. what does he have in store today in florida and north carolina? >> reporter: right, on the one
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hand, this is, i would contend the most confident, unencumbered donald trump than we have seen since the pandemic struck the united states and his trump administration white house. for donald trump, you know, at one of his campaign rallies in north carolina yesterday, he made the case to the crowd he was leading in every battleground poll across the country. of course, polls from one poll to another shows a little bit different story, and each of them show a very tight race in each of the main battleground states. but donald trump, this is someone who is comfortable in his positioning two weeks out. at the same time yesterday, he had three campaign stops in north carolina, which is the one battleground state he won in 2016 and 2020. and really if vice president harris were to pull off a win in north carolina, it would make the map hard for donald trump to
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hold on to. that's why it is interesting tonight that he's going back to north carolina for a rally in greensboro. we're here and about to head out to follow donald trump, the former president over to what the campaign is billing as a latino roundtable at his trump national golf club in doral, outside of miami. for donald trump, this is really a moment where you have seen somebody who i directly asked him yesterday about the cheating allegations that he has made, and he has repeatedly suggested that democrats are going to try to turn this election against him, but when i asked him yesterday specifically if there were any incidents of cheating that he has seen so far, he said no, but it is still early. on one hand you have a very confident donald trump. on the other, you have somebody here to the thousands of attendees that are coming out to his rallies already laying a foundation of distrust of the election that is slated to take place just two weeks from now. >> but acknowledging no signs of cheating at this point in the election.
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i think that is important to note right now. kelly, you're in wisconsin. we mentioned that obama/walz event there. vice president harris was there yesterday. give us a sense of the game plan in that state. >> reporter: well, early voting begins today in wisconsin, so that is certainly a big marker on the ground for the campaigns, wanting to energize voters. former president obama will be with governor tim walz at that arena behind me later this afternoon. and that, of course, is bringing some of the democratic within the family star power back out on the trail. former president barack obama has been in targeted places trying to stir support, trying to make the arguments, trying to close the case, and so he'll be appearing with governor walz today. i was following with the vice president as she was traveling here in wisconsin with liz cheney, of course, who was a former republican congresswoman and has supported kamala harris now. and is trying to help make the case to especially suburban voters in parts of this blue
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wall that might be independents, might be republicans who had supported nikki haley, to come join the harris side. and liz cheney is making the argument that we're hearing evolve with her, she's very clear that she is personally someone who is, in her words, pro-life, opposes abortion, but she said there has been a fallout of the overturning of the dobbs decision that meant in various states there are issues that are causing medical harm to women. here is how she made the case that people concerned about that should consider harris. >> even if you are pro-life, as i am, i do not believe, for example, that the state of texas ought to have the right as they're currently suing to do to get access to women's medical records. and there are some very fundamental and fundamentally dangerous things that have happened. if you look at the difference in the way that donald trump is handling this issue, you know, donald trump at one point called
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for criminal penalties for women. >> reporter: kind of what liz cheney has been arguing is that there is cruelty, that's her word, around donald trump, when it comes to issues like unintended consequences for women, with reproductive rights, when it comes to his rhetoric, how he treats people. and making that argument not just the issue of those who believe that the constitution must be upheld, but that there is an important value in american life to not support cruelty, so that's how liz cheney is trying to help close the case for kamala harris and harris, of course, has said that she believes that trump has demonstrated he's not fit for another term as president. ana? >> kelly o'donnell and vaughn hillyard, thank you, guys. as we see the harris campaign really target the voters there in wisconsin today, michigan yesterday, pennsylvania coming up, i'm just wondering how concerned should they be about
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the signs they may not seal the deal in one or two of the blue wall states? >> they know that the blue wall is the clearest and cleanest pathway to 270 electoral votes, which is what the election is all about. kamala harris is ahead consistently in all of the highly credible independent polls at the national level by anywhere between two, three and four points. but they know 270 is the magic number. they are built, in fact, for this race in those close states with the close races. if you look at the intangibles that the harris campaign is centering their entire effort around, having more money, having a superior field operation, which they have been building out methodically in each of these three states, and then as you mentioned earlier, trying to find a little bit of breathing room in a couple of our key states, whether it is the state of north carolina, or nevada, so that if there is a little crack in one of those blue walls, it can be offset by overperforming in each of those states. right now they are concerned, but confident, we're certainly
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in a maalox moment for many democratic voters but they should keep the faith because when you contrast with the trump campaign, whose superpower is denying reality, they seem to be acting in a much more unhinged moment, especially when you look at the comments of donald trump who is going full on fascist in these last ten days. i think the harris campaign seems a lot more with their eyes on the prize in those blue wall states. >> it does seem like the harris campaign is trying to expand the tent, circling back to the liz cheney remarks on abortion and those events that harris had with cheney yesterday. you know, cheney was in support of the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade, so how big of a deal is this focus on women's reproductive freedom coming from her in making the case to vote for vice president harris, brendan? >> yeah, i find it interesting she's trying to make that argument. i think that probably the best argument for those nikki haley voters, if you will, it is okay to disagree with kamala harris
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and to stand up there and say there is lots of things i disagree with kamala harris on, and yet i'm still going to vote for her because i think donald trump is such a unique threat. i think where democrats are missing the mark is trying to sort of redefine what it means to be a republican in sort of terms that you can feel comfortable with kamala harris. look, kamala harris is running down the middle in a lot of ways. i think that's really smart. she's talking about being strong on the border, having a strong military, lots of things that can appeal to the middle. what i don't think is going to sell is saying, well, you're actually more aligned with democrats than you think you are. i think the better argument is that donald trump is unique, even though i disagree with him, in spite of disagreeing with kamala harris, excuse me, i'm going to vote for her because donald trump is so bad. >> trump was there in north carolina yesterday, he spread more false claims about fema, and crime. he sowed doubt about the election. garrett haake spoke to an early voter there in north carolina
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today. here's what he said are the most important issues in this election. >> the economy and the problem with illegal immigration and high crime. years ago immigration wasn't as big an issue, obviously, but the economy, yes. >> do you have confidence that this election will be fairly decided? >> i sure hope so. i have some confidence. not 100%. i guess we'll see. >> good to hear from the voters. democrats have been targeting that state as one to flip. sources are telling nbc news the harris campaign has become far less bullish about it. i know you spent some time in north carolina recently. what is your sense of things going on on the ground there? >> i think north carolina is an extraordinarily close state. all the polls say that, to say that it is falling away, i don't see evidence of that yet in the public polling. on top of that, there is a massive organization by the democratic party in the state. you have the state party chair there, anderson clayton, running throughout every corner. they have to deal with the aftermath of hurricane helene.
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the reason you see, ana, trump's campaign going back to north carolina over and over and over again is because they're nervous about it. they know that if they lose the tar heel state, that electoral map becomes complicated to the point of almost impossible and judge the campaign by their behavior. the fact that trump keeps going back says i think they're nervous about north carolina's electoral votes and they have reasons to believe because the polls say that. >> i want to highlight something else liz cheney said on the stump with harris. take a listen. >> if you wouldn't hire somebody to baby sit your kids, like you shouldn't make that guy the president of the united states. [ applause ] >> it is a very simple message. is it effective? >> yeah, i think so, for a lot of folks. and i think what is really smart having liz cheney there is donald trump has completely ceded that middle of politics right now.
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nikki haley voters we talk a lot about, the significant number of people, even after nikki haley dropped out, they voted for somebody else to protest and donald trump said, maybe his ego won't let him try to appeal to people like that. he left it wide open for nikki haley or excuse me for kamala harris to come in and try to appeal to those people. donald trump is trying to run a much more risky strategy here, appealing to younger white male voters, trying to turn out the bro votes in a very untested, unreliable way. now, the question is, you know, do those people actually turn out and vote? they're putting in an operation to try to convert those people. but that's a much riskier play where as kamala harris is running a very traditional playbook, and one that, you know, is much more obvious as a path to get 270. >> much more to come on the bro vote later this hour. brendan buck and fernand amandy, thank you. tune into msnbc at 9:00 p.m.
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a more human way to healthcare. welcome back. early voting kicks off today in the key battleground state of wisconsin. democrats leading off this two-week sprint with a joint appearance by former president barack obama and vp contender tim walz. wisconsin is a critical part of that all important blue wall, which flipped from trump to biden in 2020. nbc's shaquille brewster joins us now from milwaukee. shaq, as early voting gets under way there, what are wisconsinites saying about the state of the race? >> reporter: well, they're telling me that they're excited. you're seeing that at milwaukee's -- one of milwaukee's busiest early voting locations, you see the line of people going back there. there are about 100 people in line before polls opened this morning. and then there is also drive through voting where you can go
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and curb side voting people come through with their cars, they get a ballot, they complete their ballot inside of their cars. before polls open today, before they open this morning, you had more than 600,000 people across the state of wisconsin requesting that absentee ballot, more than 300,000 of them returned that mail-in ballot, so you're seeing that enthusiasm, people looking to participate here. and in wisconsin, you have a couple of different dynamics at play. there is, of course, the presidential contest, these races are always close, you look at the past two presidential elections have come down to within one percentage point. there is a tightening senate race, that can help control or determine control of the u.s. senate, which party will have power in congress once we get past november. and then you have key legislative races, the maps that were here in wisconsin were thrown out. there is new maps now that are less gerrymandered. that will have an impact on what
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people come out and who they will be selecting. so a lot of excitement here and you're already seeing that at this early voting location. >> look at the lines for early voting. shaq brewster, thanks. keep us posted. joining us now, ben wickler, the chair of wisconsin's democratic party. ben, good to have you here with us. what or where are you going to be watching today to get a sense of that enthusiasm on the ground for the first day of early voting in your state? >> well, thanks for having me on. we'll be watching every part of the state, because we built a state wide infrastructure. we have 50 offices including in dozens of counties that trump won previously. i've been in 18 counties in in the last three days across the state and i can tell you the energy on the ground is huge. we knocked on a million doors in wisconsin since harris has become a nominee and today i'll be at the event later today. so many folks are fired up. the more people that vote early, the more our massive get out the vote operation can focus on those who haven't voted in the final stretch.
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that's an advantage the republicans don't have. they have a few dozen staffers, they don't have the torrent of absentee ballots flowing in that we see on the democratic side. i'm feeling great this morning. >> you talk about that ground game, all the doors that you knocked, we know the harris campaign has a huge, huge war chest when it comes to money it raised. we talked earlier this hour about concerns from the harris campaign that they could lose wisconsin. we all remember the criticism that hillary clinton ignored wisconsin to her peril. harris campaign certainly isn't doing that. president obama, governor walz are there today, harris herself was there yesterday with liz cheney. but this race is on a knife's edge. why is it so close, do you think? >> well, this is wisconsin. it is the land of the nail biter. it is not just beer and cheese here. it is also very close elections. four of the last six presidential races have come down to less than one percentage point. but we consider these fights not within the margin of error, but within the margin of effort. when folks go to sign up to volunteer, we put them on work
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on the ground, talking to their neighbors and people in the community. harris has been here ten times this year. walz has been here six times, including today's visit. that kind of presence makes a big difference in a state where the more people we can get to pay attention, the more votes we earn. trump's message frightens people away. and the harris message welcomes people to make a big tent of people who believe in freedom, democracy and opportunity for the middle class. that's our recipe for success, but expect it to be a close, close election called potentially in the middle of the night on november 5th or i guess a.m. november 6th. >> in 2020, wisconsin was on the forefront of multiple now debunked election fraud misinformation campaigns. and take a look at what trump said about early voting this year at a rally in waukesha in may. >> i will secure our elections because you know what happened in 2020. our goal will be one day voting with paper ballots, proof of citizenship, and voter i.d.
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>> how are democrats preparing to respond if the results are contested this year? >> well, wisconsin has some of the safest, most secure elections in the country. we have been nationally rated as in the top three states in our election performance. we have 1800 local clerks who run the elections in our own communities and know the voters in their area intimately. so we know that this election will be safe and secure. and if the republicans and donald trump and the maga fringe try to overturn the election like they did in 2020, attorney general josh call is here to fight back. the governor certifies the election in wisconsin. we have a bipartisan elections commission in wisconsin. so attempts to mess with the election will fail. the key thing for anyone who wants harris and walz to win is to win and to win by as much as possible because as we remember from 2000, it is the closest elections that are subject to the kind of shenanigans that republicans might try to bring. let's not just win this one,
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let's win it by what we call in wisconsin a landslide meaning more than one percentage point. >> ben wickler, again, the democratic party chair in wisconsin, thank you very much for joining us, giving us unsights into what is happening there. from wisconsin to texas, where early voting just kicked off yesterday and where vice president harris we just learned will be heading on friday. her campaign says she is visiting ground zero of extreme trump abortion bans and will appear alongside democrat candidate colin allred who is hoping to unseat ted cruz. this is a race that may be crucial in deciding which party controls the senate. our ryan nobles is there in houston now. and, ryan, you had a chance to speak with both senator cruz and colin allred. tell us about how this race is looking. >> reporter: yeah, first off, ana, i'm at an early polling location now in houston, texas. we have seen a steady stream of voters lined up here this morning. that stream of voters continues. and it is interesting that
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kamala harris is going to make her way here to texas on friday, specifically to focus on abortion and reproductive rights. that's been the centerpiece of colin allred's campaign against ted cruz. he's accused cruz of being essentially the architect of the strict abortion ban that is already in place here in texas after the dobbs decision. and it has been an issue in which ted cruz lacked a little bit of clarity on. clarity that we tried to at least get some sort of insight in when we talked to him last night. listen to our exchange with cruz on abortion. >> so i answered that question many times. and what i said is i agree with the united states supreme court. >> reporter: isn't your personal preference relevant here? you're a leader in this state, elected state wide. >> i recognize you don't like my answer. but that's -- my answer is -- >> reporter: you're not answering. >> i am answering it. you just don't like it. what i am saying is that is a decision for the state legislature and the governor.
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>> reporter: just to make clear, you're not in favor of a national ban on abortion? that's what you mean by texas has one law and california has -- >> every state is going to -- there is not going to be a national ban, and by the way -- >> reporter: you wouldn't vote for it. >> donald trump said he would veto any national ban. >> reporter: so, what we're highlighting here is the fact that ted cruz has yet to say where he stands on exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother, when it comes to abortions. he refuses to say whether or not he supports those exceptions. this, of course, when you take into account the strict abortion ban that already exists here in texas, and then separately he won't say whether or not he would vote for a national abortion ban were it to be brought up in the united states senate. this despite the fact that numerous times before the dobbs decision he has been the author or co-sponsor of various forms of national abortion bans. on the other side of this coin is the allred campaign. he has been really hammered hard in television ads by republicans about the issue of transgender
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rights and the idea of boys playing in girls sports. it is an issue that allred has tried to beat back saying he doesn't support that concept and allred is trying to convince texas democrats this is the year texas can turn blue. something texas democrats have been promising for some time and but haven't been able to manifest. he's trying to make this about this year and not the past. listen to what he told me. >> congressman, for years democrats have been telling us that texas can turn blue and it never has really worked out that way. the last decade or so. how is this year going to be different? >> in a way it is not really about that to me. this is a different question, which is who is better to serve us the next six years, ted cruz or me. i'm a fourth generation texan and whether it is on energy, or whether it is speaking about what we have to do at the southern border, i've been more than willing to speak out. what i think we have seen is that senator cruz will never stand up to his party.
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>> reporter: and that last part is important. colin allred made it clear he would be willing to stand up to d.c. democrats when it comes to issues that are important to texans and he separated himself to kamala harris on the campaign trail, it is very interesting that we'll see them both standing shoulder to shoulder at this rally coming up here in houston later this week. ana? >> ryan nobles, thanks for that reporting. up next for us, heavy strikes in beirut as secretary blinken looks for a democratic solution to middle east tensions. we have new reporting this morning on a potential cease-fire deal. plus, battle for the bros. a red alert for democrats and harris campaign over the gender and generational gap. r and generational gap but now there's skyrizi, so you can be all in with clearer skin. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah, i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin yeah, that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you can show up with 90% clearer skin. and if you have psoriatic arthritis,
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deal. it comes as secretary of state antony blinken is in israel, meeting this morning with prime minister netanyahu and israel's defense secretary in their latest diplomatic efforts to end the war. joining us now from tel aviv, nbc news international correspondent raf sanchez. also with us, former deputy assistant secretary of state joel rubin. what more can you tell us about this cease-fire proposal from the egyptians? >> reporter: so, ana, egypt has a new intelligence chief. he's only been in the job a week, but he's hitting the ground running. and having watched for the last year as the world has tried again and again and failed again and again to get to a comprehensive cease-fire and end to the war in gaza in exchange for all of the remaining hostages. this new egyptian intelligence chief is proposing a small scale cease-fire, two-week pause in the fighting, in exchange for the release of just six hostages. now, an israeli official tells us that the israeli security
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cabinet has been briefed on this proposal. they are considering it and part of a logic of it is this small scale deal potentially builds momentum toward something bigger. this israeli official cautioning, the israeli government under prime minister netanyahu has not signed off on this agreement and we should say it is not clear if hamas would be on board with it either. the u.s. believes that there is some window of opportunity right now to restart the stalled negotiations following the killing of yahya sinwar, the hard-line leader of hamas, by israeli forces last week. but in the same breath, u.s. officials are acknowledging that hamas is leaderless right now, it is not clear to the outside world whether anybody is in charge inside of gaza. it is not clear if there is anyone that could sit on the other side of the negotiating table and make a deal right now. so, what you are seeing is secretary blinken here in israel heading to other arab countries in the next couple of days and this may very well be, ana, the last major american push to try
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to get some kind of cease-fire deal in place before the presidential election. >> so we have this kernel of a deal dealing with gaza. what else are we expecting from the meetings between netanyahu and gallant. >> reporter: a lot of emphasis on the humanitarian situation in gaza. you have some spiraling crisis in the north of the strip now. israeli forces are laying siege to the jabalia refugee camp in the northern end of gaza, an area where israeli forces have operated time and time again. but they say that hamas is regrouping there. and that they need to flush those remaining hamas fighters out. the u.n. is saying that israeli forces are blocking food and medicine from getting into this area. they are saying that hospitals are absolutely overwhelmed and our team in gaza yesterday was at one of those hospitals when authorities there said nine civilians who were killed by israeli shelling were brought in, we asked the idf about that
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shelling, they say that they have established safe roots for civilians to get out of the area. >> raf sanchez, thank you for the update. joel, how do you see this potential cease-fire deal with egypt and whether it could get traction? >> yeah, ana, as raf described it, the short-term one is the kind of deal that we have seen in the past, with egypt playing this role multiple times in the past when there were fights and wars between israel and hamas and hopefully this does lay some groundwork for the discussion to get the hostages out. the other formulas have not worked. right now as you discussed, hamas is leaderless inside of gaza and there is a real, real need to find a diplomatic path forward and egypt has its ability to turn some screws inside of gaza to try to get a deal done. >> so how would you then snowball this small scale deal into a bigger one, approaching an end to the war? >> well, i think there are two objectives actually for secretary blinken's visit which ties to your question, which is,
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first, of course, getting others, speaking with the prime minister, the defense minister, talking about not just gaza, but also iran. but also a fact-finding mission as well and he's going to meet with the leaders of qatar, jordan, talk to others in the region to try to get the sort of architecture of regional support for a cease-fire. that's crucial. saudi arabia, for instance, is calling for a two-state solution, there is a lot of moving parts. this could feed into it. that's all tieing together. >> joel rubin, appreciate you, thank you so much. >> thanks, ana. new developments in the leaked top secret documents outlining american spy agencies intelligence on israel's plan to attack iran. the fbi now says it is investigating this leak. and working closely with the department of defense and intelligence communities. the investigation is ongoing. turning now to the arrest of
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a former ceo, we're just learning about this, a ceo whose company defined the classic cool teenager of the '90s and early 2000s. former ceo of abercrombie & fitch, mike jeffries, has now been arrested for sex trafficking and interstate prostitution charges. this case is based in new york. jeffries was arrested in west palm beach. two other men were also arrested. the u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york is set to hold a news conference on this case at noon eastern. we'll be watching and bringing you new details. next on "ana cabrera reports," unchartered election territory. the potential chaos we could see from a.i. deepfakes in this last stretch. plus, we heard the song "macho man" at trump rallies, he hit up wrestling podcasts and now talking about arnold palmer's manhood. inside trump's push to win the so-called bro vote and the impact it could have beyond november. t could have beyond november
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welcome back. as political rhetoric ramps up heading to election day, so does the risk of misinformation. and now a group of celebrities is sounding the alarm. hollywood has been at the forefront of the debate over artificial intelligence. now stars like chris rock, laura dern and amy schumer are warning americans about election related deepfakes driven by a.i. they're lending their names and real faces to a new psa
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campaign. nbc news justice and intel correspondent ken dilanian joins us now with more on all of this. what are the biggest concerns and we only have a couple of weeks left, is there even enough time to alert people to this risk? >> yeah, that's the big question, ana. we live in an age when almost anyone can use a.i. to generate convincing deepfake videos and we have seen some of that in terms of election interference so far. but officials are particularly concerned as the election approaches about videos that try to confuse people about where and when they can vote. and that's what this new ad is all about. take a look. it is a nightmare scenario for election security officials. and it is already happened once. >> it is important that you save your vote for the november election. >> reporter: that was an artificial intelligence-generated deepfake of president biden's voice. sent to 50,000 democratic voters before new hampshire's primary in january. the political consultant behind it charged with felonies. experts fear more of that is
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coming, and they say the best antidote is public awareness. >> this election, bad actors are going to use a.i. to trick you -- >> into not voting. >> reporter: nbc news got an exclusive early look at a new public service ad out today featuring a group of celebrities designed to highlight the threat of deepfake attempts at voter suppression. >> they'll use fake phone calls -- >> videos or messages to try to change when, how or where you vote. >> reporter: the bogus warning could appear to be coming from a trusted source. >> a fake message saying voting has been extended. >> your polling location has closed or changed due to an emergency. >> don't fall for it. >> reporter: it features actors and tv personnel, rosario dawson, chris rock, laura dern, michael douglas, amy schumer and jonathan scott. >> so we decided -- >> reporter: former homeland security official miles taylor is part of represent us, the nonpartisan group that produced the ad which isairing on
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youtube. >> we can make people aware this is the new spam that tries to deceive them and to make sure that they don't fall for that deception. >> reporter: joshua graham lynn is the group's ceo. >> it is almost impossible to tell what is a deepfake and what is not when you're flicking through your phone on a busy night. changing a few votes in one district could tip the whole election. >> reporter: the ads seeking to show viewers how easy it is to produce convincing fake video. >> voting is your right. >> don't let anyone take it from you. >> i love you, amy. i'm so sorry. i'm not even american. >> reporter: experts are urging americans to get information about voting only from official sources. and they say if something seems off, it probably is. >> so sorry. >> and i wish i could point viewers to one particular place to get information that would sort fact from fiction about elections, but this is the united states. elections ultimately are a state and local affair, even presidential elections. but what officials are saying is go to your secretary of state's office for your state or your county election board, there are
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lots of places that are official that provide information about where and when to vote. if you think that something is questionable, you're seeing online, look for government sources to sort it out. >> good advice. do your homework. ken dilanian, thank you for bringing us that alert. donald trump has gone all in on courting the so-called bro vote this election cycle, making aappearances at nfl games like last sunday's stop by the steelers game there in pittsburgh. he's also been sitting down for podcasts focused on topics like sports and crypto. >> she was the last of 13 people that was going to be chosen. but they wanted to be politically correct so they picked this person and she's not qualified. >> baron is 18, he's handsome, he's tall, he's rich. >> he's got the whole -- >> he's unleashed in new york city. are you sure you want to reverse roe v. wade now? >> if this is part of a
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strategy, my next guest called a master class in bro whispering. he goes on to write, this shift in support for mr. trump among men is neither organic nor unexpected. it is what happens when a well coordinated political operation invests tens of millions of dollars to amplify mr. trump's narrative and weaken confidence in the party in power. and john della volpe is joining us now, he's an msnbc political contributor. john, your op-ed about this issue is really, really interesting. i want to talk more about this campaign, the bro whispering campaign as you call it. you write trump cultivated relationships with some comedians, pranksters, influencers in silicon valley, billionaires like elon musk, all while his team bombards podcasts and social media with misinformation and memes to rally his troops. talk to us about the scale of
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this operation and how it is working. >> well, the first part is, ana, it is working, because what happened is we see that was once a 19-point margin that democrats held in 2020 among younger voters who are men, we find that is cut roughly in half to nine points. i think it is more likely than not that kamala harris wins the younger male vote, but all a question of margin, especially in a razor thin election. more importantly, the way in which he has done this is that he -- he actually went out and found young people where they are and what we found in many years of tracking youth attitudes in the harvard youth poll is that politics is stressful. perhaps never been more stressful. it is -- people get depressed, they feel hopelessness, and one thing they can do to make them feels better is to pay less attention to the news.
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so therefore the fact that donald trump has been able to kind of pierce the political algorithmic bubbles where young people are, young men, and engage on platforms on cultural base, on sports, entertainment, podcasters who are both sports and culture is something that has been working quite well in terms of to develop his message and this relationship with younger people. not just in the political season, but it has been going on for years and years and years. >> he's figuring out where to go to talk to these voters. but the message is resonating and i want to dig into why. you write this generation of young men, they're lonelier than ever, nearly twice as likely to be single, compared to women of their age and less likely to enroll in college. you shared the story of a young man from pittsburgh, quote, a college graduate working part time as a bartender. he felt weighed down by
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hopelessness, adrift in a country where rising costs, stagnant wages and a lack of affordable housing has made even the modest ambitions of other generations feel out of reach for him. hope is great, he told you, but adding, i see nothing for the future. so, john, it seems trump is almost exploiting that lack of hope. it is like his campaign is really leaning into their darkest fears. >> there is this massive crisis of confidence, young men in particular have in themselves and in the institutions that were essentially designed to help us achieve the american dream. and he is tapping into that. and these are good people. these are good people who just want to feel independent and what they're looking for is a big idea. and trump's big idea is to be a part of a class, a country where they can kind of feel masculine, they can feel like they can
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provide for themselves and provide for their family. that is what he is telling them, being part of this, you know, basically not quite a cult for everybody, but basically kind of this movement. and what i argue in that piece is for democrats to be successful, they need to talk not just about the specific policy points, but to sell a bigger and bolder vision. something that can rebuild confidence and strength and a sense of community with this group of young people. because that's what they're looking for. >> so we have, you know, barack obama, tim walz, both working together today in wisconsin, separately they also have been talking to the male voter. i'm just wondering, you know, what does it look like in terms of what they can do? you talk broadly, but more specifically, what can they do to try to hold on to the voters or bring them in? >> number one is they need to recognize these fears. they need to address these fears head on. they need to say, i hear you, i
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understand that you feel unmoored, that the future looks scary. but there is a choice here. and what tim walz, what barack obama, what kamala harris needs to do is to illustrate the difference, their lives based upon harris administration versus a trump administration. but first they need to recognize this. these young men, who are drifting toward trump, and there has been a 14-point change in party identification in just four years, those young men don't feel like the democratic party of today hears them or is listening to them. they don't feel at home and before you can persuade someone to vote, you need -- they need to be recognized as someone as, you know, with real fears and that's what governor walz and barack obama can start to do and harris can finish it. >> fascinating conversation, john della volpe, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. next here on "ana cabrera reports," another legal headache for donald trump for a case he's had his hands in all the way
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legal settlement. the five alleged trump made a demonstrably false statement about them when he said this during his september debate with vice president harris. >> they admitted -- they said -- they pled guilty and i said, well, if they pled guilty they badly hurt the person -- killed the person ultimately and if they pled guilty then they pled we're not guilty. >> the five men did not plead guilty. the victim of this attack survived. joining us now former assistant manhattan district attorney catherine christian. katherine, trump clearly got the facts wrong, he said they pleaded guilty, they didn't. he said the victim died. she didn't. how strong is the case against him? >> it's very strong. first of all, the plaintiffs it's not enough that he made false statements, they have to show that he knew what he was saying was false. i watched the debate live and when he said it i said that's not true, they didn't plead guilty. someone died, that's not true. in fact, they were charged with attempted murder and that jury
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that convicted them acquitted them of the attempted murder. he even talked about mayor bloomberg. well, i was alive and well then and it was mayor koch. he got all of the facts wrong. and they have to -- the central park five, prove that he knew it was false. they've done a good job in their complaint showing he knew it was false. they documented for years going back that he tweeted about a documentary about the case, which is clear that they had a jury trial and the manhattan da's office consented to their convictions being vacated and new york city gave them a $41 million estimate because of the exoneration. he knew about that. he tweeted about that. he called the settlement a disgrace. so in 2013, in 2014 he wrote an editorial about it. so he knew that what he was saying according to the plaintiffs was false on that day. it wasn't like he made a mistake. >> was it just that he knew it was false or does an intention, like bad intentions also come into play here? >> it does. what he said was false or he had
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a reckless disregard for the truth and that caused damage to their reputation. in this case because the defamation -- they call it defamation per se, it involved accusing them falsely of a criminal conviction, which they no longer have, of a sex crime which they were exonerated. they don't even have to prove there was damage to their reputation, it's just a given that when you're accused of being a rapist or a criminal that's a damage to your reputation. >> what kind of damages could trump face? >> could be millions. the central park five, the plaintiffs in this case, haven't outlined what they want. they said they want it for their reputation. they want punitive damages to punish him for making these egregious statements. it could be in the millions that they could ask for. the next step is for donald trump and his attorneys to answer the complaint or make a motion to dismiss the complaint. >> we've seen how they can drag things out. >> yes. >> over and over and over again. realistic timeline here? >> it could be over a year. it was filed in federal court in
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pennsylvania because the defamation occurred in philadelphia on the debate stage, so it could take over a year or more. >> okay. well, it's an interesting case to follow. catherine christian, thanks for coming in. >> you're welcome. >> and walking us through all of that. that's going to do it for us today. i will see you back here tomorrow. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage next. new york jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage next. e tide. do i need to pretreat guacamole? not with tide. why do we even buy napkins? thankfully, tide's the answer to almost all of them. —do crabs have eyebrows? —except that one. for all of life's laundry questions... it's got to be tide. i thought i knew a lot about our irish roots; i was surprised to learn so many more things. there's the family name. 1892 wow. that one here is the boat they came over on. yes. wow. (♪♪) if you're on medicare, remember, the annual enrollment period is here. the time to choose your coverage... begins october 15th... and ends december 7th.
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