the last thing before we go tonight, obama loses himself. before he got down to business, the former president was moved to recite the lyrics to eminem's lose yourself after the rapper and native michiganer introduced him at the harris rally. check this out. >> i was feeling some kind of way following eminem. i noticed my palms were sweaty. knees weak. arms heavy. i never never felt so calm and ready. i keep falling forget it. i thought eminem was going to

be performing and i was going to jump out. >> i'm pretty sure he talked about kamala harris after that. but for his opening remarks, barack obama had a pretty good time up there. on that pretty good note, i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. good evening, we are coming to you live tonight from philadelphia's yard's brewing company right here in battleground pennsylvania. [ cheers and applause ] >> this is a state that may well decide this entire election which is an unbelievable two weeks from today. and yes, november 5th is not yet here, but voting is very much underway in the keystone state. more than one million votes have already been cast

according to the university of florida's elections lab. and yesterday marked the final day that pennsylvanians could register to vote. they have 3,971,607 registered democrats. down slightly from 2020. and 3,673,000 registered republican voters which is slightly up from 2020. we will talk about those numbers in just a second. now, the polls here show pennsylvania locked in a dead heat. since both campaigns consider this a must win state, any deciding vote could be the deciding one. with that reality, both campaigns are engaged in a battle at the margin. that means that instead of just trying to turn out oaters in places where they do well like red counties for trump and blue strongholds for harris, both

campaigns are wading into enemy territory. they are trying to turn out the handful of people who don't vote the way the rest of their community does. for trump that means turning out a handful of his supporters in urban center where harris is poised to win big. for harris, that means turning out democrats who live in rural parts of the state where the majority of voters favor trumps. it is about getting those lonely democrats to come out of the woodwork and stick together and vote. it's an effort that looks an awful lot like this. >> john fetterman! [ cheers and applause ] >> wow, thank you! here we go!

all right. i want people to understand outside of these kinds of counties that it is difficult at times to be a dem in red pennsylvania! and that's one of the reasons why i'm here is to honor you and salute you for what you are doing. it is never about turning the county blue on a map. it is about jamming it up. jamming it up for the republicans so that is why they can win pennsylvania. and the magic is in the margins. and it is never going to be about your own county being the right color. it is about making sure pennsylvania goes blue because you in this room, we pick the president! >> on saturday i traveled with senator and harris campaign

manager john fetterman and we went to schoolkill county pennsylvania. in the last two presidential elections, trump beat both joe biden and hillary clinton in this county by more than a 2-1 margin. but again, the harris campaign is not looking to win the county in 2024. they are just trying to turn out every single democratic voter they can to add to the total number of democratic votes statewide. to give you a sense of what that means, in 2016, trump won schuylkill county, carrying the state by less than a percentage point. the slightly smaller margin winning the county by three points less than he did in 2016 was a difference maker. trump lost the state of pennsylvania by 1.2%.

about 80,000 votes. you can see how cutting into trump's margins across a number of very pro trump counties could be the key to a democratic victory. a couple hundred votes here, a couple elsewhere, it all adds up. let's talk about the math for a minute. biden did marginally better here than clinton did in 2016. shave off a couple hundred votes across the state she is not going to win. but together those votes statewide are the margin of victory. >> absolutely. it is absolutely so crucial in that. that's what i have been trying to say. if you add an extra 500 votes or a thousand votes, that, stack it, stack it. and that's the margin. i tell everybody, you could be

a so-called expert. and may have been wrong, but if everybody has a quarter here, i can predict who is going to win. and you do not need to be an expert to call a coin toss. it will be so close. i'm not here to worry. i'm here to say it's like i'm motivated and i'm committed to having and making the arguments like in rooms like this where i am now. >> we are seeing a new sort of phenomenon emerge here which is working class lower income urban and rural voters are increasingly going to the republican party. and democrats have a monopoly on affluent educated voters. does that concern you for the broader trends for the party? >> it is not so much a concern, but a reality where we are at. we have to fight for every last vote. it's like people vote for what

they happen to believe. and that's why it is going to be close. but i do fundamentally do believe that the majority of people will decide that they don't want to go back to that mess. you have met a lot of people who are voting for trump. but that's why you know, it's not about trying to figure it out. at this point, it is just hey, let's do everything that we can. >> now senator fetterman is right. being a democrat here seems kind of difficult. but the democrats i met this weekend were enthusiastic that although it may be lonely, they are not alone. here is what they had to say about harris support in a trump county. >> do you think there are more democrats that will come out or republicans that will come out for harris? >> i definitely think there is a hidden number there with democrats. yes. yes. i know just like from canvassing, there are women that are married to trump

supporters that are not speaking about it. but are going to be voting for kamala. and there is a lot of fear to present yourself as a liberal. you get the look as people drive by. there are people that are still going to go to the voting booth and cast for kamala. >> does it matter when fetterman comes here and tries to rally the crowd? >> i think it is nice to just come to these things and feel that sense of community. but the most important thing, they are talking to the casual republicans or like the independent voters, and fact checking them of the beliefs that they have. and having those honest but friendly conversations. there are a few people in my life i could convince to the kamala side. they just needed something

clarified. with all the misinformation out there. >> were you here for 2020? >> yes. >> so biden did a little better than clinton here. you think harris can improve upon the margins he has? >> my gut feeling is telling me yes that is happening and the reason i think that is happening is because of working at headquarters. maybe they have voted for him. >> yeah. but now they can't. that feels good. that feels good. >> so you are a republican. >> yes, i'm a registered republican. >> but you are at a democratic event for kamala harris. >> i am because i vote people not party. >> i assume that means you are votes for kamala harris? >> absolutely. i cannot vote for someone i

don't respect. i really think she has a good message. >> do you feel like there are more republicans like you who are just tired of trump? >> i'm hoping there's a lot of people like me who are going to corral out of the wood work. i live in a very, very rural community. my husband and i are in the minority and keep our mouths shut. >> i don't like him anymore. >> what about the harris signs? >> i see more of them now. >> you do? >> and i didn't. >> what we need? we need to get a claim. >> you heard it here first. >> so harris supporters are circling up. but they are not the only ones fighting this battle of the margins.

trump supporters are doing the same. and deep blue parts of the state like philadelphia. over the weekend, i attended a meets of the self-described black republican club of philadelphia and asked that group of trump supporters what they expect to happen. >> i believe trump is going to win because first off, when people say bad things about him, where does that affect us down here? that doesn't affect our neighborhood. it doesn't. it has never affected our neighborhoods. we don't even see half the things that go on, on that level. >> we know he is going to win because he is the best for america. he is worried about our economy. >> the crime is high. the violence is high. the schools are bad. democrats have been in charge for four years. >> we are voting for donald trump, period. no one else is going to persuade us. we're two weeks out and we will not sleep until november 6th. >> so you know who you are voting for?

>> i'm voting for trump. >> tell me why. >> he is more strong. strong minded in a way. he is focused on what we got to focus on. like he doesn't play. that's what i respect from him. he doesn't play. he always stands for what he believes to matter who is bashing him. people criticizing him. nothing. >> he doesn't take bs. he is not going to hear it. he's a businessman. he's not here for the fluff talk of politics. we need somebody strong. we need somebody who will get down to business and take care what this country needs. but also understands what the community is. >> we were scared in the beginning because he said he will nuke korea and nuke iran. but he didn't do that. he didn't do that. the stock market went up. >> it is up high right now. >> there was no inflation back then. democrats take granted.

especially minorities. they take for granted because they think republicans are so out of touch with the minority's needs that they don't have any choice. and ity that will be a big surprise. >> you have energy for mr. trump in the city. a lot of people walking down the street, they're not feeling the democrats time to time. they may not vote at all. it is not what mr. trump did. it is what hasn't been. i'm not a dedicated republican. i am voting for the lesser of two evils this time. mr. donald trump. >> i also asked those voters about vice president harris and how they viewed her candidacy. >> what are your feelings and let me start with the women here, about kamala harris. >> she is a woman of color. i'm not putting her down because of that and i'm not putting her down because she's

a woman. i'm not a feminist, so i'm sorry. but at the end of the day, i don't think she has the personality. i don't think that she has what it takes to go up against putin. and go up against these other presidents that are built for this. i want my president to feel secure and manly and about it. >> you brought up gender. do you think it matters that she is a woman and people are not comfortable having a woman in a pop leadership role? >> no. i don't think that. because most men, they love their mothers. they love their wives. so they respect a woman. but she don't have the qualification or the education to really run america. because she don't have the experience. she don't understand our struggles. and for me to believe you for another four years, you are

crazy. >> so the fact she is the vice president, that is a nonstarter? >> for me, the first time i heard the name kamala harris, it was an association to locking up parents for truancy. that was the first time i ever heard of her name. and i didn't understand how this person claims to be a black woman. yet she is locking up black women and black men and separating families. >> trump talks about this a lot. he says kamala harris became black when it was convenient. do you agree with him on that? oh absolutely. absolutely. when she was sworn in, it was as the first indian american. we don't care. >> we all know she is not black. we are all clear of that. but my point of view is that. she is already been there. she is in office right now. >> now, to be clear, the voters

i spoke with here are not representative of black voters in philadelphia on a whole. black voters are expected to support kamala harris by wide margins this election. the question is how many voters from this blue county can donald trump pick off? to that end, i ask these black republicans about what part of trump's message is resonating. >> do you know you are voting for? >> trump? >> yeah. of course. >> is there one issue that is the one you think trump is hands down better on? is there one issue driving your support? >> absolutely. for me it is immigration. i myself come from an immigrant family. i'm guatemalan. seeing the new immigrants come in, they are more violent. it is more chaos. they do more bad than anything. and we have been here longer than them and it is starting to affect us more. stuff is getting stolen. they are making us look bad.

and we have been getting more misrepresentation. >> what do you think about mass deportation camps? >> i think it is a little bit iffy. i wouldn't support it wholeheartedly but i think it is a good idea for the new immigrants coming in because they are the problem. >> the part driving me crazy about immigration is the fact that i feel that the democrats are celebrating people breaking the law. why create the law and create a whole process for immigration for y'all to break it? >> trump says they are coming to take your jobs, black jobs. how does that resonate for you? >> first of all, they are. they are illegal aliens. they are taking jobs that belong to the citizens of this country. it is just the fact that trump is saying that out loud. that's why the fact that we rally around behind trump because at the end of the day, this is the stuff we have been southing out as a community.

>> i was born in haiti. >> you are haitian? >> that is correct. >> so what do you think of all this talk about springfield and haitians eating pets? does that bother you? >> that's red herring. you guys keep coming in with red herrings. >> what do you mean? >> red herrings. >> did he say it? >> i'm not saying he didn't say it. but it's a nonissue. i'm talking the policies in place. now we are talk about red herrings. eating cats or dogs. it's silly. >> i agree with the idea of mass deportation. largely. you have controls destroying our nation. they are coming in here, getting earmarked bills and policies to open up businesses. get free housing. get access, easier access than those legally immigrated here to welfare and other benefits so as a taxpayer we have to pay for these guys to have luxuries

of life. and we don't get anything. especially black americans who suffer so much in the system under democrats. we don't get anything. that's insane. you talk about springfield ohio and the whole thing with the fluff talk of grabing the sound byte about haitians or whatever. eating cats and dogs. y'all trying to change the narrative of what he is really talking about. change the narrative of what we are talking about. and telling us, that's what we should be discussing. no. this here? this is what we are discussing. this here, this is america. and this is what america is about. >> for the record, multiple studies have shown that undocumented migrants are specifically less likely to commit violence than american citizens. but it is apparent despite his false claims and extreme potentially unconstitutional policy proposal, immigration remains one of his key selling points. we have much more ahead of our

special report live from pennsylvania. the battle at the margins and a special look at how harris is doing with black and latino men. stick around. stick around.

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quarter inches. joining me now are pennsylvania's lieutenant governor austin davis and john favreau. it is so great to have you here to make sense of what's happening. lieutenant governor, so, i was at a fetterman campaign event. harris campaign event where it was kind of an organized concerted effort to get democrats in a red county to come out and vote for harris. i was also at an event with trump supporters that was more impromptu. self-directed. not something the trump campaign organized so on one hand, you think in the battle to peel off voters harris needs to be more organized and focused. but the emotional draw of trump is undeniable. if you heard that sound we played in the last segment i wonder if you think democrats might be making this calculation and feeling overly confident in the harris campaign's structure and organization when trump has so

much emotional weight to his argument? >> i think it is quite the opposite. democrats recognize this election is is going to be close. this is why the harris campaign is running the biggest organization in pennsylvania. in our history. we have opened field offices in places like lancaster, cumberland county. places that democrats traditionally don't compete in. because they are respecting every person's vote. whether you are in a big city like philadelphia here or a small rueful community. they are competing for every single vote on the field. >> when i was out on the field, everyone kept talking about long signs. one of the sorts of optimism about how harris might do was the number of harris yard signs compared to trump. i wonder anecdotally in your course as an organizer and someone who follows politics closely, is that a valid

measure? should we be looking at that as a measurement of voter enthusiasm? >> i don't know. i don't think the campaigns are counting yard signs. i rely on the campaigns to figure that out more than lawn signs but it can't hurt to put a lawn sign out if you are enthusiastic about your candidate. >> i do wonder, john, what you think of this emotional weight of the trump argument. you know? i was so struck by those voters we talked to in the last segment. the immigration stuff i think a lot of people see as off putting racist. maybe unconstitutional. clearly it is something they are embracing and these are black voters in philadelphia. what was your reaction to that? >> yeah. i mean look. you should never bet against donald trump's voters. they are trump supporters, republicans. they are doing to turn out.

the democrats in kamala harris' campaign, they have factored that into their calculations. i think that the opposition to donald trump is one of the most powerful forces in american politics and has been since he has been president so i think you will get very, very high turnout on the democratic side as well. i think this will come down to some undecided voters who don't necessarily sound like the voters you spoke to. don't sound like harris supporters. that you spoke to either. but they all say similar things to what you heard. they don't know who is looking out for them. think want to find out who will take care of them. who will improve their lives tangibly. what moves persuadeable voters tends to be two things. new information and new information that tangibly impacts their lives either positively or negatively. do they know donald trump wants

to slap a 20% tax on a ton of things they buy? that kamala harris wants to build 3 million new homes in rental units and make housing more affordable? and so i think these are the pieces of information that both campaigns are going to want to be communicating in the final weeks to move those persuadeable voters off the fence. >> yeah. lieutenant governor davis. one of the things that struck me is how much there is this perception that democrats are becoming or are the party of elites and no longer care about the working class. and you are hearing pollsters and strategists who are looking at the numbers saying increasingly what you are seeing is the potential realignment of voter preferences. where republicans have positioned themselves as a party more interested in the

concerns of the working class. what can they do about it given the policies the democrats have done to help the working class. >> i fundamentally don't think it is true. ly lean on my own experience. i'm the proud son of a union bus driver and hairdresser. my dad is driving a bus to help folks get where they need to go. i encourage you to look at the election that josh shapiro and i ran in 2022. we were able to bring together a coalition of working class folks to win by 15 points. win in places like beaver. coming close to winning a place like lancaster. places that democrats hadn't won. i don't think that is an assessment of the entire democratic party. we can bring people together. democrats, republicans, independents, to get things done. you will see some of that coalition come together for kamala harris in the final two

weeks. >> i was struck by the number of folks leaning more toward trump mentioning the anti-trans ad and talk about the migrant crisis and how much that vitriol and fear has translated into a feeling that the democratic party is somehow anti-masculine. anti-american. again, i don't think that is true. i don't think the record shows that to be true. but i'm struck by how potent that image and thinking is and whether it might realign the parties. are you worried about that? >> trump has been successful at using fear, hate to try to pit people against each other. and that ad you are referencing that kamala harris is for they- them, it's not just about transgender issues though that is what the ad is actually about. but it is, the message they are

trying to send is she is for people who aren't you. i think the best way to respond to that is we all want safe communities. we all want opportunity. we all want freedom to make our own decisions about our bodies and our healthcare. donald trump is trying to divide us and pit us against each other because he wants power. and he wants to help his rich friends. you have to take on the hate head on and describe motivation to it. why is donald trump doing this? it is not to try to help you. he wants to help himself. that's what her message has been and i think she will probably hammer that even harder in the final two weeks.

>> austin, lieutenant governor davis, i want to ask you about the registration numbers. yesterday was the final day to register in your state. the number of registered democratic voters has dropped 211,000 from the year 2020. the number of registered republican voters has increased 150,000 from 2020. do those numbers worry you? >> they don't worry me. if you look, they are pretty much on par for what the state is. they are pretty much even. we know that pennsylvania is very much a purple state. we know this election is going to be close. so i think those are just representative of where our commonwealth is iditarod logically. ideologically. >> that sounds like somebody who lives here and has to deal with this on a daily basis. lieutenant governor austin

davis, thank you sir. i know you have a busy schedule. i appreciate your time here. and jon favrou. thank you for joining me. coming up, what the black and latino men that kamala harris can't afford to lose in pennsylvania, what they have to say about the possibility of a female president. that is next when we come back live from philly. ve from phill your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. nothing beats it. i recommend pronamel active shield because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients. try pronamel mouthwash.

we're back. with 14 days left until election day. vice president kamala harris, potentially the first female president remains locked in a fierce battle with the first former president to be found liable for sexually abusing a woman. the crucial fault line of this election has come into sharp relief. it is about gender. now democrats have been losing ground amid a key voting block. black men for years. the polls show that erosion will likely worsen this november. it is something president barack obama has repeatedly called out. earlier this month, obama asked black men in pittsburgh if they just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president. but, it is not just black men. young white men, especially those without a college degree

overwhelmingly support trump. yet i spoke to a group of black men at kenny's barbershop about the issue that might decide this election. gender. >> obama made remarks on the campaign trail at a stop in pittsburgh he said there are some brothers out there on the fence because of this or that. because they have a problem electing a woman as president and making excuses for that. but that's the issue. and black women have gotten our backs for so long. they raised us up and helps us out and it is time for you to show up for kamala. what did everyone think of that? >> i was deeply offended and it felt like a moment where you n words better get in line and do what we say. and it felt like him as the czar of the democratic party coming down to say go get these

n words in line and the general tone of it was disgusting. it was abhorrent. i don't respect it. i didn't like nothing about it and kamala two days after that is like we love our black men. we have programs and things we rolling out for them. she rolled out policy. i'm tired of the good cop bad cop. >> black men have to be there for black women in the same way that black women have always been there for us. as single parents, all that and more. what he was ultimately trying to say is by not voting for kamala harris over basically somebody as a clown it is almost like a general disrespect. >> she is not the only person on the ballot. >> every day all day long we are having conversations across the city. i was having conversations last thursday and it was a young man just turned 18. we got him registered to vote.

he led his conversation with i can't vote for kamala because women are emotional. and many young men, so we all here as grown men. you are missing the point. >> women are discriminated against. they are treated like objects. women are paid less. we can't act like women are not treated unfairly. >> i mean, michelle obama gave barack a lot of credibility. if he had marched a white woman across the stage, he would still be in chicago. he had characteristics that gave him out. she looks good. you know what they say. they are giving her the dumb blond energy. everyone thinking it is funny.

laughing when it is easier to get your jokes off. it is unfortunate we grew up in a culture where those were the things we talked about. >> trump is eating into the democrats' lead with black voters, they were quick to point out black men young and old still overwhelmly support harris. the issue lies with other voting blocks, they say. >> i know everybody said the black men are the biggest shift in numbers. i hope i'm wrong. but i'm calling [bleep] on that. i don't believe it. polls, all that stuff can say what it can say. but when it is time to go vote, every year it's us. we are not the issue but we became the issue after trump made a play for us when nobody was talking about us. but at the same time, we can't pretend that it hasn't become a popular talking point among black men in media who feel like they want to be

provocative and drive up likes and things like that. like charlemaine is in the commercial talking [bleep] about kamala. and it is cool, but he is literally, it's like, it is popular and we have to recognize that. antonio brown. it's popular. people calling her, talking about her history. and it's like, when i walk in the barbershop hearing people say these things what does that have to do with anything? >> to win the race, we have to put pressure on white women. on the latino community. >> as it concerns the latino community, this morning i joined victor martinez, the allentown radio host and i joined him live in studio where i got to speak to voters directly about whether kamala harris' gender might guide their decision at the ballot box. >> let's see what the people

have to say. >> hello. >> hello. being a female concerns me a little bit. she is still going to get my vote but it concerns me a little bit. over the generations and years of our lives, i have never really seen a woman, you know, i mean, other than hillary clinton. but i'm concerned a little bit about the fact, will she be able to run this country the way males have done it over the decades. would she be able to stand on her own two feet and deal with this situation? >> first of all, she is a strong woman. she is a prosecutor. an ex-prosecutor. she became a state senator. she is very strong on her

policies and she stands strong. with fear of other people of the united states looking at her as a woman, i don't think that is a problem. she knows how to negotiate. >> i think because she is a woman, she will be treated different. i don't think it is right. but i feel that will happen a lot. >> do you have friends that are not going to vote for her because she is a woman? >> i have coworkers, i have neighbors around here. just because she is a woman. oh, she doesn't know what she is doing. i mean, a woman is a woman and a man is a man. it just doesn't matter what are you as long as you know what you're doing. it doesn't really matter what are you. >> this listener says the reason we get the calls of people scared because they hear from the media and they hear from trump how weak as a country we are.

we are weak. we are weak. and so that together with a female, the perception that females are weaker than men so. >> that is a super fascinating point. >> the phones are ringing, people want to talk about it. i could tell you that i have been doing this for 30 years. i worked in different markets. the level of engagement from the latino community wanting to talk about, wanting to express themselves. wanting to participate, i have never seen it to this level. >> interesting. >> i will go even further. i will dare to say at least within the latino community that people are more engaged now when the drama is happening. we like telenovelas. you may hear a lot of latino men being very macho. i would like to see how many of

those latino men are influenced by their wives. and by their daughters. >> or their mothers. >> because we latino love to say that we are the boss and we are the man. but seriously, how many wives and daughters are going to look at their husband and father on election day or when it is time to vote and say don't you dare. are you serious? and how much, again, from the mouth out and from the door out, oh yeah. but inside, once you are with your wife. once you are with your daughters, how many of those guys will be influenced by them? >> in an effort to focus on the phenomenon victor martinez is describing there, the harris campaign launched this ad. mpai.

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do you not see sexism in this race at all? >> i don't think of it that way. my challenge is to make sure i can talk to and listen to as many voters as possible and earn their vote. with a sit down interview with hallie jackson, vice president harris rejected that sexism is the cause of the massive gender gap in the presidential race. on the ground the harris campaign is focusing the efforts to woo black and latino men to close the gap as much as possible before november 5th. joining me now is philadelphia city councilmember, and also chair for black men for pennsylvania. it is great to see you. thank you for being here. for anybody who saw the -- [ cheers and applause ] >> you got supporters here. you know, i thought that was a fascinating event that you were at that you kind of chaired last night at the barbershop.

and i just wondered how you sort of squared what we heard last night with what the vice president is saying, she is not talking about sexism in this race but i wonder if you think that is the secret divide that nobody is acknowledging? >> i mean first of all thank you for having me and great place like the city of philadelphia and at the end of the day, one of the organizers of the event when we talked about what happened at the event we acknowledged it was a great conversation but we pretty much agreed that sexism is a real thing. if the vice president went on tv and said sexism is having an impact on the race people would of called her weaker than what they are calling her right now. that is why in the last segment you heard people speak critically about her gender, people vaguely bring it up in the barbershop as well. you know for a fact it is a real thing in this country. at the end of the the day people would of looked at her

trying to play the victim role. i am happy she took the perspective that she did. at the end of the day we know she is strong and educated. no way you can have the credentials that she has and served in the positions she served in and people did not look at her as unqualified that in itself is a certain level of seckism. i can not think of a male with the same credentials that would receive the same criticism. >> it is hard to of a vice president that was nold she is not qualified for the job. >> reporter: what do democrats do? one of the things was the spanish radio ad a young daughter telling her dad who is supposed to be a trump supporter. trump is not like you, i need you to be with me on this. that echoed you have all of the latino men saying they are voting for trump but their wives, daughters, mothers are you are not voting for trump,

are you serious. i know you are not a spokesperson for any of those voting blocks but do you think that the wives in the lives in these men that may have issues with harris'gender are important ambassadors is that a phenomenal for black community as well? >> it is real. the end of the day the reason we are seeing it play itself out is because of roe v. wade. if you would of told me in my lifetime that i would have to fight for something that my parents fought for when they were teenagers and younger folks i never would of believed it. when we look at the issues on the ballot and the positions that the candidates have taken, roe v. wade is at the top of the food chain. there are a lot of other things that impact middle class folks, poor people, people of color that both candidates have taken a position on and it could not be further apart as it relates to their views on how the country should move forward. at the end of the day, yes >> women matter. >> they do.

i also think that men have been targeted as victims of misinformation. i think that some of the misinformation is resinating with people when you hear cities like philadelphia talk about the immigration issues, when you hear cities like philadelphia communicate things that are not necessarily relevant to the things we are dealing with on a daily basis. that to me is a product of misinformation presented people via social media and ads and putting folks in a position. you heard it in the barbershop the other day. people are concerned that were trump policies during the trump administration but the comeshes tell them it was biden/harris and they go on to believe it. >> you know, one of the things last night in the barbershop is that i think one of the city council folks, black people in general are very relational people, black men are even more relational. one of the hurdles that harris has is black men saying i don't know you, i don't know you like

that. can you respond to that? how does she get over than that with less than two weeks to go. >> i don't think that is an issue to her that is a condition that people are beginning to communicate as what they want from their government, at the end of the day having a relationship with your elected official and being able to have access to not just them. not that somebody want to call you on the phone or touch you they want to know government is working for you. i had a conversation with one of my men tees earlier today doing the outreach and the phones and i asked him who he is voting for. he communicated rhetoric that i did not necessarily like. i cut him off and i explained to him, this is my space, my territory you will have to follow my lead when it comes to this lead i am the expert in this space. and are the expert when it is time for me to come to your space i call you. at the even of the day the relationship matters significantly. when people are used to having a relationship with anybody in several industries they will expect