good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the election is 13 days away now. and with new interviews from donald trump where he repeatedly talked about using the military on americans, specifically democrats, a key voice says he's passed his red line and he's going on the record. john kelly, a four-star general, donald trump's dhs secretary, and his longest serving chief of staff, is using his voice specifically to tell americans that his former boss is messed up. agreeing to a recorder interview with "the new york times" and michael schmidt. >> and i think this issue of

using the military on -- to go after american citizens is one of those things i think is a very, very bad thing. even to say it for political purposes to get elected, i think it's a very, very bad thing, let alone actually doing it. certainly the former president is in the far-right area. he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators. he has said that. so he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist for sure. he commented more than once that, you know, hitler did some good things, too. and of course if you know history, again, i think he's lacking in that, but if you know what hitler was all about, you'd

be pretty hard to make an argument that he did anything good. >> if he was left to his own devices would he be a dictator, if he didn't have people around him? >> i think he'd love to be. i think he'd love to be just like he was in business. he could tell people to do things and they would do it. and not really bother too much about whether what the legalities were and what not. >> and did -- did the former president appreciate the constitution? did he appreciate any of these things? >> no. it was fascinating. he doesn't know a lot about american history, and certainly as, i guess, a former executive in his civilian world, you know, you -- i guess you can be a dictator because you can fire people easily. and the only thing theoretically that you have to follow is the law. but then, again, an awful lot of

people break the law and expect subordinates to break the law or circumvent the law somehow, and that's where he was coming from. that was his world view. >> did he -- so he expected the people that worked for him to break the law? >> well, when he would give, and i think i've told you this many times. when he would tell me that he wanted to do something, 100% of the time i checked with the white house counsel because oftentimes he didn't have the authority to do what he wanted to do. >> pub lging a story yesterday was jeffrey goldberg where he lists out all the ways donald trump denigrated, minimized, and insulted those who chose to serve. confirmed by multiple sources, some who went on the record to confirm the stories including that trump called those who lose

in war suckers. this one donald trump offered and reneged on, paying for the funeral services of a female soldier murdered at fort hood in 2020, allegedly asking aides in the oval office would vanessa's family bill him and angrily saying it doesn't cost $60,000 to bury an expletive mexican. nbc news has not confirmed the reporting and donald trump's campaign flatly denies all of the allegations. still, goldberg's reporting underscores what john kelly is arguing about donald trump's character, what john kelly said he witnessed. not to mention what dozens of other senior administration officials have said on the record about donald trump's fitness, his temperament, and his judgment including two of his former defense secretaries, two of his former national security advisers, his former vice president, his former attorney general, and the former chairman of the joint chiefs of

staff. this afternoon vp kamala harris seized on this moment. >> all of this is further evidence for the american people of who donald trump really is. this is a window into who donald trump really is. from the people who know him best, from the people who work with him side by side in the oval office and in the situation room, donald trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable, and in a second term people like john kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensities and his actions. those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there. >> joining us now nbc news correspondent vaughn hilliard who's in duluth, georgia,

covering the trump campaign today. coauthor of politico's west wing play book newsletter eli stokeales, and national political correspondent and nbc political analyst ashley parker. vaughn, john kelly is saying out loud what has been reported for years and years about donald trump. it's also what we've seen from donald trump himself. remember when he talked about john mccain not being a war hero, also that he believed u.s. generals were his generals. so what does it tell us about the campaign that they're flatly denying absolutely all of this in. >> i think we could actually be clear here, katey. it's not so much denying anything specifically. it's just sort of painting a broad brush stroke that doesn't deny the leadership or style or characteristics that are being ascribed to donald trump by john kelly and by the likes of james mattis and mark milly. and that's where you see donald

trump just two weeks out now from election day trying to use these individuals but also political enemies, perceived political enemies like liz cheney to suggest it was actually them who were standing in the way of a more fruitful and efficient washington. and if it hadn't been for them, not only would his first administration have been more successful, but a successful administration that is unencumbered by individuals like john kelly or james mattis or even a mike pence would be even a more successful washington under donald trump. you mention this is all playing out in realtime. and last night just mere hours after the release of this audio conversation between michael schmidt and john kelly, donald trump took the stage in front of thousands of americans in greensborough, north carolina. take a listen. >> i think putin saw how stupid

we were with these generals. what a stupid group of people they were, mattis, milley. you know the real ones, the ones i used to defeat isis. we defeated isis. they were the real generals. >> again, donald trump's not running away from this story. instead he is taking them head on and using them as a means of galvanizing support. for him, his pathway to victory in large part is to juice turnout among his faithful supporters who believe its individuals like john kelly who stood in his way in the first administration. i want to let you look at a statement from a spokesman for his current campaign, steven chung. he failed to serve his president well as working as chief of staff and currently suffers from a debilitating case of trump derangement syndrome. we are 13 days away from the election, katy, it also is an

indicator who donald trump who all but likely would like to see put around himself as chief of staff, pentagon secretary, secretary of state, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, individuals who he has no concerns about potential infidelity from. >> yeah, let's talk about that eli. you covered the white house. you saw who put up guardrails and stopped him from his worst impulses, who didn't let him use the military against americans even when he wanted. what's going to stop him now? don jr. was quoted in "the wall street journal" saying we want people who's actually going to follow the president, the duly elected president, not act as sort of unelected officials that know better because they don't know better. we're doing a lot with vetting. my job is to prevent those guys. if you're preventing the people who put up the guardrails before, who's left? >> well, that katy, is the question that vice president harris wants the country to be thinking about today and over the next several days. she explicitly framed it that

way just a short time ago when she came out and spoke about this because there are questions about, you know, if trump has learned from his first four years and he doesn't want a vice president like mike pence going to follow the constitution, doesn't want a chief of staff like kelly who's going to check with the white house counsel office on everything he's going to do. he wants people more defiant and wants to do everything he wants to do, potentially. i'm not sure every person who wears a uniform, a high ranking general is going to acques and it wasn't just mike pence it was officials in georgia and other states, it was judges who threw out his challenges. so there are people throughout the various layers of our democracy who take an oath to the constitution who may yet fulfill that oath. there are still a lot of checks and balances in our system that

i think gives some legal observers confidence trump's dictatorial ambitions, which are explicit and out in the open, may not be so easily fulfilled in a second term. but there is more cause for concern given that he has just been so upfront about what he would like to do and about his frustrations with people who have stood in his way. and, again, that is something that the harris campaign really ever since these stories came out, they have really tried to elevate this story, put this in the news cycle, and they succeeded somewhat. walz talked about this earlier. it wasn't just harris. they held a conference call earlier with other people in the military who worked for john kelly. they're really trying to give this legs and hope those late deciding voters to the extent they're still at all unaware of who donald trump is or maybe needing reminder that this may potentially have some effect on their decision at the end of the day. >> and again, we're showing all these -- all these quotes from former high ranking officials

about how they experienced donald trump. i mean, people like nikki haley. he's not qualified to be president of the united states. i mean people who worked closely with him, although hailey's now trying to stump for him oolts he's not putting her out there. they're all saying the same thing. the guy doesn't have the fitness, doesn't have the responsibility, the temperament of a president. he wants to be a dictator, an existential threat to the rule of law from james comey. i mean all of these people saw him up close. but, ashley, to the point that eli just made and i'm going to talk about the supreme court immunity decision as well. i feel like that is something potentially that could give him a lot more latitude because it says he's completely immune with actions in the justice department, completely immune with interactions with the vice president. that could open some doors for him. but let's talk about who this might convince.

who is john kelly talking to? who is listening? who is yet to be convinced from somebody like -- by somebody like john kelly? >> so it's a great question and one that even democrats are strategically divided over. so obviously the biden campaign this is how president biden sort of began his campaign, his 2020 campaign. this was the message he carried throughout until he stepped down. and then we saw kamala harris come and sort of run on a couple different messages including reproductive rights, but now her campaign has clearly made the decision that these comments, these warnings from four-star generals, from people close to the former president, for people who served with him, matter and will persuade voters, and other people including democrats think if you don't know this about donald trump already, it's just -- it's just baked in and it will persuade no one.

the argument i have heard in talking to people, for instance, who run focus groups is, again, we have to remind people it is such a small deliver just out the door of voters who will actually decide this election, right? so among these voters in focus groups they will sometimes say quite explicitly, look, i liked a lot of donald trump's policies. i really liked the economy. i loved my 401k during those four years, but i just don't know if i can bring myself to vote for him again. and there is a belief that some of them may go into the voting booth and sort of as they literally told democrats and focus group moderators, that they will sort of hold their nose and vote for the policies or vote for what they think would be better for their kids financially, which would be donald trump. but for this group of people who just feel so reluctant about donald trump the person, they don't like him, they don't like how he acts, they don't like what he stands for. someone like john kelly coming

out and on the record and especially in "the new york times" in an audio where you can hear his voice saying i believe he meet the definition of a fascist, these are the things where he praised hitler, may be enough to prevent that very small sliver of voters from holding their nose and going in and voting for someone who they think may move the united states to an autocracy, may idolize hitler. >> got 13 more days to figure this out. thank you as always. joining us now retired u.s. naval admiral steve abbott. he served as deputy homeland security advisor during the george w. bush administration. it's really good to have you, admiral. are you concerned about the prospect of another donald trump presidency given what we've heard from all of these high ranking officials including folks like john kelly? >> thank you, katy, i'm grateful

to be here. and we should be concerned, certainly concerned over the return of donald trump as the president of the united states. i believe general kelly's remarks are a stark warning about what, in fact, could be in store in a second trump term. you mentioned that the supreme court decision on the immunity question raises concerns about whether he would indeed become untethered from the constitution in a second term. and that raises the prospect of the military being used in a way it was not intended. i think we should be particularly concerned about the possibility of the military being used as the enemy from within, quote-unquote, and in fact members of the opposition political party. >> i wonder what you think of

his ability to talk about veterans this way, to talk about active duty service members or those who have died in war this way. and it's not new. the third rail of politics used to be you can't denigrate our armed forces, but donald trump blew that out the window back in 2015 when he call john mccain not a war hero. he blew it again when he went after george w. about the decision to invade iraq and saying to a giant crowd of people, veterans mostly in south carolina that he and his administration lied to get us into a war. and i was at that rally and the roar from the crowd was deafening. i wonder is it because he was willing to say that ugly truth about the iraq stuff and not to get into the merits of it but to say that to people who experienced it, is that what gives him so much latitude with the rest of this stuff?

how do you explain it? >> well, i think that the people who listen closely to what donald trump has said over the years recognizes that -- recognize it, indeed, is a consistent litany of disrespect to the military. you mentioned the iowa comment he made about senator mccain, who by the way was a naval aviator and someone who i consider a true hero. he said he was not. and then there are significant subsequent incidents where you could have dismissed that one as a one-off. but he was actually with general kelly in the arlington national cemetery on memorial day i think it was 2017 where general kelly's son is buried. i mean been killed in afghanistan. and pointed at the headstones and said i don't get it, what was in it for them? and of course we know he's said

that the presidential medal of freedom is better than the u.s. medal of honor. and most recently the political stunt at arlington national cemetery this last month. i think just makes clear that his attitude toward the military is one of disdain. but i would say that it's more because policies that we need to be concerned about, and this fascist tendency that general kelly raises is a stark accusation, but i think it's an accurate one. i think you go back and look at the history of germany and the period that hitler was coming along, and it was a fledgling democracy. and hitler managed to manipulate that democracy into the fascist

state that, in fact, brought us into the second world war. that was a warning that general kelly was giving us about the potential for a second trump term. >> admiral abbot, thank you for joining us on what is a depressing topic. appreciate it, sir. >> my pleasure. >> and still ahead, from abortion to immigration, vice president harris was just pressed on her policies. what she is revealing in the final push to the presidential election. and the democrat who could pull off an upset in a super red state. congressman colin allred joins us. what he's doing to make it case for becoming texas' next senator. plus what u.s. intelligence is saying russia is doing now to interfere with the november election. there's a video specifically that's out there that's been debunked. we're back in 90 seconds. one ins house wears white, it doesn't stay white for long. white? to soccer? i'm not gonna slide tackle. but now with tide oxi white,

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like susan collins, lisa murkowski, if republicans controlled congress, would you offer them an olive branch? or is that off the table? is that not an option for you? >> i'm not going to engage in hypotheticals because we can go on with the scenarios. let's start with a fundamental fact. a basic freedom has been taken from the women of america, the freedom to make decisions about their own body. and that cannot be negotiable, which is that we need to put back in the protections of roe v. wade, and that is it. >> joining us now in philadelphia is nbc news washington correspondentia yu yamiche alcindor covering the harris campaign. >> reporter: that's right. we have sources confirming to us it is the harris campaign and vice president harris looking to have a speech on the national mall next tuesday. that's notable because the vice president talks a lot about

january 6th, talks a lot about former president trump's role in the attack on the capitol. and of course he delivered a speech on the capitol. we're looking to see whether or not it's going to be in the exact same area, which is the ellipse. hallie jackson who had that interview with the vice president, she got a permit that shows it's possibly where it could be. i'm still talking to sources, but we do know she wants to have this speech on the national mall, which really i think goes to this idea of freedom, and of course what she's talking about today which is thee shinks donald trump is a threat to democracy. so trying to go to the center of democracy which is the national mall, katy. and what u.s. intelligence agencies are warning about russia and the november elections. first, though, what democratic congressman colin allred thinks could propel him to victory in the great state of texas. don't go anywhere. victory in tf texas. don't go anywhere.

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white whale for the last 30 years, but recent polls show their spear, well, it could be pretty well aimed. ted cruz is in the fight for his political life against democratic congressman colin allred. allred has outraised cruz. all reasonable doubt has outspent cruz, and on friday he'll appear with vice president harris to boost momentum in a state with one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the country, where they'll have the monumental task of getting texas democrats who spent the last three decades saying why bother to start saying why not. joining us now democratic congressman and candidate for u.s. senate, colin allred, who represents the state of texas. i'm mangling my words today, sir. thank you for joining us. >> thanks katy, thanks for having me. >> why do you think this year could be the year? democrats have been saying this now at least the last three election cycles. >> yeah, i'm not real interested in our past. i'm interested in our future and

the fact is ted cruz is too small for texas. i've been endorsed by every major editorial board in our state. we had a debate the other night where i think i exposed him for what he is. we are working right now and seeing already, you know, fantastic early voting turnout. and we don't have to have a senator who goes to cancun when we need them to most or who takes away a fundamental right from texas women. this is not who we are. i'm a fourth generation texan and i know who we are. this is about our future and on november 5th we're going to turn the page and beat ted cruz. >> why do you think it's going to help to have kamala harris by your side in what is such a red state. she doesn't have as much of a chance to win the state whereas it seems like you do have a chance to beat senator cruz. how does she being at your side in houston help you? >> well, this abortion ban that we're dealing with in texas is just horrific. and what we're going to do is have texas women telling their

stories. i think ted cruz's singular responsibility for this is something i've stayed focused on throughout this campaign, but i'm glad texas women are getting their voices heard. they deserve to be heard. most of the stories and many of the stories that folks have heard across the country of what it's like to live under an abortion ban like what we have in texas is from texas women. and i know other folks see them and hear them, but they are my friends. i get to know them. i get to see them on the campaign trail. i see the tears in their eyes when they explain to me what they've been forced to go through by their state. so we're going to talk about and make sure we hold ted cruz accountable and have a senator who will lay the law of the land after this election. >> you broached the subject of immigration. what do you think needs to be done? what is your policy on the border in texas? >> well, we have to have an adult conversation about it. that begins, yes, with border security. and ted cruz said earlier this year we don't need a border bill and he took down $20 million in additional funding that have

helped us hire more border patrol agents, immigration judges, technology, fentanyl. that's important. but we also have to fix our broken legal immigration system, which is contributing to some of what we see at the southern border. and every employer i've talked to in texas wants us to address this. and in the longer term we have to work to stabilize some of the countries where we see are driving so much of this migration. i'm a member of the foreign affairs committee. there's work we can do through institution building to try and alleviate some of the worst conditions that are causing so many folks to make that journey. we won't ever be able to eliminate all that, but we can do some of the work towards it. that's the kind of adult conversation we have to have, not one where senator cruz just wants to talk tough about the border and go down to our border communities and treat them on safari but never actually do any action. >> if you look at the poll out of texas and i've got this polling from university of texas out of austin. when you look at what democrats

top issue for 2024 abortion is right up there, the economy up there as well. immigration is almost nowhere. it's not as big of an issue for democrats. and 1%. but for republicans it is the biggest issue. over 30% of republicans in texas say it is their number one issue. if you've got a voter considering voting for you because they're kind of over ted cruz and they say i don't agree with the biden administration's policy on the border, what are you going to do differently -- or what would you advocate for differently? what do you say to them? what does that adult conversation consistent of? >> there's plenty to say. beginning with i won't do what ted cruz has done, which is take down efforts to try and actually address the problem, right? so when you have a $20 billion potential investment in border security, well, where is that money going to go? it's going to come to texas. we're going to hire 50 new border patrol agents, 4,000 new

personnel, so actually doing it is part of it. i have broken with my party on this, and i've said before we have to have a much more sense of urgency about this, and that we have to make sure we do have a comprehensive plan for border security. what we don't have to do, though, is tip over into cruelty. this is where i disagree with some of the stunts being done by folks i think want to use the border to rile up anger and get some power for themselves. that actually doesn't secure the border and it won't actually help. >> i know you must have experienced it down there. we're appearancing here in new york. there's a lot of asylum seekers who are here in new york now, and they can't work for i think it's six weeks -- or six months, excuse me, after they cross the border and before they can get their work permits. so they're asking for money on the street or they're selling candy in the subway. would you advocate -- there goes my microphone. would you advocate changing the rules to make it easier for them

to start working faster? >> here's what i think we have to do with the asylum system is that it is being abused, and it was never meant to handle this level of people who are trying to access it. and so that's why when i talk about the investments that we have to make, no matter what you do at the executive level, whatever, you know, presidential policy is put in place, they can't provide the resources to help us deal with this enormous asylum backlog that we have. because about 90% of these folks, katy, are going to be denied in their asylum came essentially. because what they are seeking is, you know, economic help. they're coming for economic reasons, by and large. and that's not one of the asylum factors. so they're going to be denied. it's going to take six, seven, eight, nine, ten years maybe for the some of them to get that claim fully adjudicated because of the enormous backlog we have. that's what we have to address. that's why when we say we're going to hilar 4,000 immigration

officers and change the asylum bill itself, that's what it would help us address. dealing with this specific issue we have of having an asylum system completely not setup to deal with the numbers it has been seeing. you would lower that time. >> you're arguing the first issue is dealing with the asylum problem and the backlog. congressman colin allred fighting for ted cruz's seat in the senate, thank you very much, sir, we appreciate it. and we did invite senator ted cruz to join us on the show. that invite is open, and he can come on whenever he chooses. coming up, what russia is doing to give republicans the upper hand in the november elections. and what is raising concerns that north korea could be wading into the war in ukraine.

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13 days out from the election and russia is trying to disrupt our collective consciousness again. u.s. intelligence officials say russian influence actors created and amplified a false online video alleging tim walz abused a former student. the 4-minute video filmed with an actor posing as a real person was filled with just enough biographical details "the washington post" was able to find the actual man who denied ever interacting with walz as a student. joining us now nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. let me play a little bit of what

"the washington post" found. this is the fake video and then the real man. >> i was a student at the -- high school in minnesota. and i realized this when i was 14 years old. >> well, it's obviously not me. the teeth are different, the hair is different, the eyes are different, the nose is different, and the accent is definitely an off throwing thing. i obviously don't have a foreign accent. >> joining us now is ken dilanian. ken, good to see you. what is the deal with this? what exactly are officials saying is going on? >> they're saying this is part of a vast russian disinformation campaign. really one small example, the russians are flooding the internet with deep fake videos designed to discredit kamala harris because they want donald trump to win. and then you have iran to also interfere. they want donald trump to lose. and what officials are even more

concerned about, though, katy, are attempts to try to prevent people from voting in swing states by putting out false information about time and manner of voting. saying your polling hours have been extended when they actually haven't, things like that, using deep fake videos to do that. this is based on a declassified u.s. intelligence assessment that was issued in it last 24 hours. and there's a lot of private analysis of what's going on as well. so the good news is we know that this is happening, and we can try to inoculate people against it. the bad news is it's continuing to happen. >> to watch out for deep fake information on voting. be careful about things like extended voting hours, et cetera. ken dilanian, thank you very much. always double-check. north korean troops are in russia. secretary of state lloyd austin confirmed the news this morning stoking fears north korea is ready to fight alongside russia against ukraine. white house national security communications advisor john

kirby went into more detail at the white house press briefing this afternoon. >> between early to mid-october north korea moved at least 3,000 soldiers into eastern russia. we assess that these soldiers traveled by ship from the area in north korea to vladivostok, russia. these soldiers then traveled onward to multiple military training sites in eastern russia where they are currently undergoing training. we do not yet know whether these soldiers will enter into combat alongside the russian military, but this is certainly a highly concerning probability. >> joining us, nbc news national security correspondent courtney kube. so he says it's highly concerning. what do we know exactly? >> reporter: so we don't know a whole lot more other than what we heard from south koreans including today. south korean intelligence saying the same thing john kirby just said there about 3,000 north

korean troops now in russia training. it appears that they are doing what the military might call familiarization training and combat training. but the big question, katy, is to what end. john kirby was pressed many times about whether these troops could end up in ukraine. he couldn't say definitively that would happen or not, but that is the concern and assumption here they may end up in ukraine. this is the first time today that we actually heard u.s. officials on the record, on camera confirming that the u.s. is now seeing this as well. initially there was some speculation that it's possible that these north korean troops would be moving into russia potentially into ukraine just to see how some of the weapons that north korea has been providing russia for use in ukraine are performing on the battlefield. north korea has been providing russia with deadly weapons for months now, many of them having a real impact on the battlefield there in ukraine. but now with these 3,000 troops

there, the concern is they could be going in with the ultimate goal of moving them into ukraine to put them into combat. and today the south korean defense -- intelligence agency saying that they believe as many as 10,000 north korean troops could be in russia, ultimately, for potential deployment into ukraine by the end of the year, katy. >> is there a quid pro quo here? are authorities worried north korea could be getting something in return from russia? >> reporter: that is the biggest concern from officials. we heard a little bit about that as well. what could russia give north korea in exchange for this? since north korea provided weapons, what now could they be getting? some of the speculation is there could be some ballistic missile technology or other military technology. but the real question is could it be something that ends up being a game changer, and that's what the u.s. is still looking

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population that is proving a little trickier than in years past. joining us now, msnbc correspondent tremayne lee. here in person no less. good to have you, my friend. >> likewise. >> who's proving tricky and why? >> we're talking about young black men in particular. black men in general. but it's become cliche to say meet people where they are. but people on the ground are doing just that. in light of all the attention black folks are getting saying men aren't showing up or young men are skewing this way or that way. there are a group of guys in the community who are going out and touching people where they are. take a look. in philadelphia they're revved up and ready to go. more than 100 bikers, representing some of the city's black motorcycle clubs, cruising through neighborhoods with low voter turnout and low political engagement, especially among black men. >> everybody needs to get out and vote. >> reporter: the harley-davidson riding pastor alan waller heads the biggest black church in philly. >> black bikers vote. black men vote. and then just people who care about democracy getting together

on a beautiful day. >> if you don't vote, nobody's going to hear your voes. >> reporter: joe paul is executive director of black men vote. >> talk to us about these unique efforts to engage with black men. >> you know, black men are not monolithic. we wear tons of different hats. we're interested in barbershops. we're errant edinterested in sp. we know brothers are going to pay attention. and it's important for them to see themselves riding through the neighborhood. >> reporter: vp kamala harris and donald trump are in a dead heat according to recent national polls. while an overwhelming majority of black voters including black male voters support vp harris, a generational trend is emerging. in a poll of seven swing states, 21% of black men under the age of 50 lining up behind trump. that's why both sides are in a battleground state blitz aimed at black men. >> thank you, pennsylvania. >> reporter: harris appearing on black-oriented national media with high-profile interviews with charlamagne tha god, roland martin and the shade room. and trump leaning on his black

male supporters including controversial former nfl standouts antonio brown and le'veon bell. >> let's vote for trump, baby. >> reporter: back on the streets of philadelphia -- >> we're here to support the vote. >> whether on motorcycles, whether on bikes, cars, walking. we want to make sure that we are representing and making sure that we are moving forward with our constitutional rights. >> reporter: black men say they want to be heard. >> i think both parties make the mistake of assuming that when you talk to black men about criminal justice reform you've answered our questions. but we are entrepreneurs and we are business persons and we are homeowners and we are people with student loans because we graduated from college. and we want some real discussions around economic matters in the community. >> black men vote, one of the organizers of this event, set a goal this election cycle to register 100,000 black men across the country. they're 95% of hitting their goal. 60,000 men in philadelphia alone. >> i really like this piece.

i think this might be my favorite piece of yours yet. because it gets to the heart of one voting bloc not being a monolith. and i think we are too easy to kind of paint a certain voting bloc one way or another in this country, at least during election cycles. when you talk to young black men specifically and you ask them about whether they're going to vote, do they know that they will go to the voting booth? is it even about the two candidates? or is it about whether they're going to show up, period? >> some are very skeptical of the system in general, right? because they're disconnected from all other institutions. and so the public institutions they're also disconnected from. but there is so much misinformation, disinformation, for a the lo of them it's not clear what's right and what's wrong. and anytime some of them, they say lift their head up and ask a question about kamala harris who they don't know or donald trump they get beaten back in position and they feel like they're being -- >> so they're not getting talked to. they're not having a conversation. >> not being respected. not being respected. >> do they feel that way when president obama takes the stage? i know he got some blowback for

saying that black men don't want to vote for a woman. >> the way that president barack o'many baa lesnate with some of us it's not the same for people who were children when he was in office. they don't see the same luster. so that kind of browbeating, it's -- browbeating is something different. >> is there somebody that can talk to those voters that kamala harris or donald trump could deploy? >> there are those podcasters. the manosphere space that can be very toxic and dangerous, they have the ear of a whole generation of young people that came up post-obama. >> tremayne lee. thanks very much. that's going to do it for me. "deadline: white house" starts after a very quick break. ine: ws after a very quick break high p, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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