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headquarters in new york city. consider it the ultimate game of texas hold 'em. kamala harris and donald trump throw their cards down in the lone star state. one shows abortion. the other, immigration. so what will win out? plus, the art of bro whispering. trump sitting down with podcaster joe rogen and his massive roster of followers and a potential audience that rival some battleground states. could they swing toward trump on election day? behind the scenes look at one critical county waging a year's long battle against conspiracy theories and how they are protecting the vote and the people counting them. we start with kamala harris betting by spending some of her precious remaining time at a star-studded rally in houston, texas, she can reach voters in battleground states hundreds of miles away. her aides telling "the new york times" her goal is to transcend traditional politics and by appearing with music icons

beyonce and willie nelson, generate viral content that could shake up this race. so far, nothing else has. a "the new york times" final poll out today shows a dead heat. 48/48 among likely voters. deadlocked in battleground states, too. "the times" says it is impossibly divided and harris and obama laid out to her georgia rally last night. >> it's either donald trump in this stewing -- stewing over his enemies' list, or me working for you, checking off my to do list! >> this is a leader who has spent her life fighting on what have of people who need a voice, who need a champion.

she was raised in a middle class farmer. she worked at mcdonald's when she was in college to pay her expenses. she didn't pretend to work at mcdonald's when it was closed! >> for his part, trump has an interview in texas next hour expected to talk about border security and what he calls migrant crime, a theme he is escalating with even more derogatory rhetoric. >> we are a dumping ground. we are like a garbage can for the world. that's what has happened. that's what has happened. we are like a garbage can. you know, it's the first time i've ever said that. and every time i come up and talk about what they have done a country, i get angrier and angrier. first time i've said garbage can but you know what? it's a very accurate system. >> shaquill brewster is in texas where donald trump will be here

tonight. tim miller was communications director for jeb bush's 2026 campaign. he hosts a podcast and msnbc political analyst. and our nbc is in houston site of the rally tonight. david plouffe told "the washington post" the fact they are going to texas mean they hope it will happen in the seven battleground states. going to a red state, how does that help you in the seven battleground states? >> in a number of ways. beyonce is great and we will reach people with the time they spend together. number two, they are going into ground zero in the abortion issue. texas is a near total ban on abortion and they can highlight some of the stories there and they will be talking about that. this is something we haven't had a large-scale national election since the fall of roe v wade and we know that this is a really top of mind for so many folks and this is a really important

place to fight it because we know what has been happening in texas. they can talk about those stories and remind voters in this final stretch here what is at stake. and so i think it makes a lot of sense for them to spend some time in texas. we will be talking about it nationally about it no matter what. >> i want to play this for you that coincides with harris visit to texas. >> for 54 years they were trying to get roe v wade terminated and i did it. >> he did it. >> it was pretty devastated. >> he is bragging. >> bragging about the brights that he stole from american women. >> so does this signal to you the campaign believes that if they are going to reach that tiny sliver of undecided -- "the new york times" calls them immovable voters -- abortion is their strongest play? >> i don't think these voters are immovable and i think abortion isn't really important. the group doesn't get talked about a lot we look at noncollege white women, you

know, probably they live in areas that are very mag and their husbands probably are, too. thirst theirs final to row since roe and dobbs and can he improve by two or three points? that could be decisive in a very close election. i think it's go on. one thing i like in a separate ad they are running about a texas woman who wanted to have a baby and had a miscarriage and she wasn't able to get the care she needs and now she might not be able to have a baby in the future. i like that ad in particular because it shows to me the harris campaign is not just reaching out to pro-choice voters but trying to expand beyond that to pro-life voters that don't like the extremism of the law in texas, that has put women's lives at risk, right? when you look at 60% of the country say is pro-choice and another 10% of voters are pro-life and want reasonable exceptions and reasonable laws. you get to a very popular issue that has a real impact on

women's lives and on everyone's life. >> tonight's event and last night's event seemed to signal the return to the huge rallies. 23,000 plus last night in georgia. they did have a lot of star power there. the houston stadium for tonight's rally, i think, holds roughly that many. then you have trump going to madison square garden on sunday and that holds about 20,000 people. my question is, it costs a lot of money. the logistics are difficult. what do all of these big rallies buy them? presumably, it's like the same amount of, like, free media. why? >> well, i think a couple of things. first of all, donald trump has always been obsessed with crowd size. we know that from the beginning. i think big rallies are important because i think we are trying to break through the noise here and trying to inspire people and trying to reach people where they are at with messengers they will look at and trust and from the campaign they are trying to put as many people out there in the large scale

opportunities that generate a lot of media to have these dialogues. look. we are going to cover the campaign either way. but i think, you know, this is a quick and efficient way to reach as many people as possible with these closing arguments that are so important. when you're in a dead heat, everything matters. every little thing can make a difference here. so i'm not surprised to see the campaign focused on doing what they can to reach as many people as possible. you know, every single vote matters here and i know we talk about the battleground states but everyone's vote matters here and so does the popular vote and that they reach as many people as possible. they are trying to get everywhere so they are doing the best with the time they have. what kamala harris has been able to do in a remarkable short amount of time is incredible how she is coalesced everyone in to this battle and into this fight. i think they are closing strong. i think we are going to see lots of people. there is a lot of enthusiasm. early votes showing a lot of enthusiasm and there are lots of volunteers in these battleground states.

i was talking to a friend in wisconsin and they said about 125 people just at the town she was in to volunteer to get out the vote. there is enthusiasm in these states and so it doesn't surprise me that they want to spread this throughout the country as well. >> you got more details about what to expect tonight at the rally. there has been all of this buzz about beyonce. willie nelson is expected to be there. what are we going to see and hear tonight? >> as you said, we expect some big names like beyonce and willie nelson to be here but this a rally about freedom which the vice president has been walking out to the song "freedom" by beyonce for months now spp she will see texas as ground zero to the dangerous consequences of abortion and she is on stage with a number of wen who say they suffered life-threatening consequences because they were not given the proper care they needed either when they were miscarrying or needed or wanted an abortion and

as a result they are the face of what could happen to women across the country. the vice president is going to be saying while you think you might be safe in georgia or pennsylvania or wisconsin, this could be coming to you, these abortion restrictions we see in texas, so she will be trying to connect this and make this a national event and not just focus on texas, although she is trying to unseed ted cruz and the person running against him. she is also talking about her to do list which is passing reproductive freedom laws and restoring the protections of roe v wade and cutting taxes and providing home care and backing and support for people who need care in their homes, as well as for medicare and other things. she has a long to do list and she will be saying donald trump has an enemies' list and she has a to do list. >> msnbc learned outside groups spent roughly 1.1 billion dollars in this campaign. that is, obviously, a new record. with 11 days still to go, what

kind of options does it give you than you would otherwise have, especially in the closing days of a campaign? >> yeah. look. ism one that usually thinks -- i think i'm different than most political consultants because i'm not taking a big on these ads and think they have replenishing returns on these ads. i think news to get it into the level and they are seeing ads on tiktok and youtube and conversations. i think it's important to introduce new info. i think you're seeing the harris campaign starting to do that a little bit more. i think that she is in texas right now should say that some of that money be useful for allred right now and i think could do more ads who is running against ted cruz and he at a little bit of a financial disadvantage in a senate seat that could be absolutely critical for what is -- who has the majority in the senate. and i think that the ground game is the other part of the

finances at this point. do you have the money to make sure you're paying to get the boots on the ground and many are volunteers but you're paying for travel and logistics and making sure they are getting to the right doors and right people out. >> i can't tell you how many doors i went to in various campaigns and they will tell you we will give you a ride and somebody said i need a ride and i wonder if that person got the ride they thought they were going to get? any way. shaq, donald trump is headed to michigan after the event in texas today. and arizona and nevada. all of those places, he has kept the focus squarely on immigration. tell us more. >> reporter: yeah. you can expect that focus on immigration to continue this afternoon. we will see in about half an hour donald trump ahead of that podcast taping. you look at the signing on the stage, mass deportation now and end migrant crime you get the focus that immigration will continue at least at that event.

that is being paired with the escalating rhetoric that we have been hearing. not just the clip you played at the beginning of the segment where you reference or called america a dumping ground where he called america a donald trumping ground because of the issue of immigration but you heard at some rallies yesterday, he paused his remarks to play videos of what his campaign called migrant gangs. he repeated the claims that illegal immigrants or undocumented immigrants are taking jobs of black and hispanic voters. so that is a messaging that you're going to continue to hear, but once we get to michigan later today, there is a chance that it shifts a little bit. we have seen in the past in his campaign that has signaled that it might be more of an economic focus here and where he is coming to today, this county is one where if it you look at the past two elections, he won this county but he did lose some ground here. he won it by double digits in 2016. in 2020, he won it by just three

percentage points. i think if you want to know what he thinks that good closing message should be, especially in these american battleground states, tonight will be a good thing to watch, a good metric to use to see what that closing message will be as we come up on election day. >> garbage can for the world, there are all sorts of new permtations. trump talked about angry. is the key for him he thinks in the closing days? >> sure. he is trying to rile up his base for sure. he has talked poorly about immigrants from the beginning of this thing. we have been dealing with donald trump for about ten years and he started his first campaign talking about this issue. we are a nation of immigrants. they add to our country culturally and economically. it is republicans -- you can't run away from this. republicans who torpedoed a

bipartisan deal to try to move forward on this issue around pathway to citizenship, et cetera. this is all campaign metric and to rile people up and mainly scare them. his entire campaign has been fear based and a race to the bottom. i think we have an opportunity to turn the page here. i think a lot of people want to do that. but this is going to be close. it's going to come down to every single vote, you know, in this dead heat and so he is going to use what he thinks is going to get his people out. i hope that, you know, i hope that we have an opportunity to make some progress on this because him and republicans haven't wanted to move forward on this. >> we were showing, tim, the podium and that is where we are going to see donald trump a short time from now in austin. let me go back to kamala harris for a minute because we talk about all of these celebrities. she had them out last night. she is having beyonce and willie nelson, obviously, focused on probably two different kinds of audiences tonight but when you look at the attention that gets,

that a normal campaign event might not, whatever ends up on tiktok or youtube or the pictures that end up on instagram, is it clear that there is a way to transfer that just the views of the interests in an individual performer or a celebrity in to encouraging somebody to get off the couch and go vote? >> well, yeah. because we are trying to think about who she is trying to reach right now, right? i'm always asked about one particular group like haley republicans given my past is usually higher income and college-educated and republicans who don't like trump and one way to reach them. she was out with liz cheney this week and another way she is trying to do it. she is trying to reach democrats and likely to vote for kamala harris but they are just not that tuned in to politics. and so i think that is why beyonce and others out. i think you're trying to pull

out all of the cards so say if this person has -- i didn't look, whatever it is, 50 million instagram followers and probably has more than that. who knows. some of those people are people not watching the news and not getting news on their feed. now they will get a clip of beyonce and might remind them to go vote. it's that group of people you're trying to reach with celebrities, people not engaging in political news and that is an important group for the vice president's campaign in the last ten days. >> beyonce's instagram account has over 314 million followers. >> i sold her way short! i'm so sorry, beyonce. >> icon. >> she joined the former twitter in april 2009 and has 15.1 million followers so that is a few people, you know? i'm getting there. thank you all for joining me today. tim miller, stick with me. in 90 seconds, getting bros to the polls.

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donald trump today will sit down with one of the most popular podcast hosts in america joe rogen as he makes his biggest play yet for young male voters. the appeal is obvious with more than 14 million followers on spotify.

rogen's potential audience dwarfs the potential audience of the seven battleground states and trump is going on otherpodcasts to get male voters and to some we talk to, it's working. >> he talks like i talk with my friends. very familiar. >> reporter: you don't see that a lot in politics. >> no. it's an old guy but he is a little younger than the other old candidates. >> reporter: that's interesting. he comes off like one of the guys? >> basically. >> i was thinking of my choice who i'm going to vote for and everything that kamala says doesn't appeal for me. i think as a voter you have to go for the policy and not the candidate and i don't see kamala harris running this country. >> john wrote an op-ed for "the new york times" titled "trump's bro whispering could cost democrats too many young men."

tim miller is back with us as well. john, i know you've been talking to lots of young male voters during this cycle. tell us what you've found. >> i think if you ask the second question to those new england men that we just saw, i would argue a crisis of confidence. you'll quickly hear their concerns about keeping a roof over their head, the concerns about a job in the future, the concerns about being financially independent. this is a group of young people, a generation of younger people who were introduced to donald trump when they were in middle school or early high school years. they have a different kind of connection with him. they see him as more of an anti-hero. and he has made some significant, i think, connections with this group of people. but this overwhelming sense of hopelessness that too many young people i'm hearing about is one of the reasons i think that his

message around strength and their lack of understanding, in my view, about his record while he was president, is something he is using to build more support today than he did four years ago. >> well, that last part is part of the follow-up question i was going to ask you because a lot of these young voters, frankly, how to pay for putting a roof over your head or am i going to get the next job or a job was not something they were thinking about because of their age, obviously, back then. i just wonder, is it a lack of understanding? is there some overarching anxiety from the covid pandemic? where do you think this is coming from, john? and maybe the more important question, is there anything in the next 11 days that kamala harris can do about it? >> i think it's more personality than policy-driven. i'm quite sure about that. when i talk to younger young people they have the same

concerns that harris is talking about. they are concerned about vesting in the middle class and infrastructure and health care access. to me it's not about a disconnection with policy, it's really about this image of trump being kind of stronger and standing up for them. they see the democrat party as a party who has been focusing more on women and more on other cohorts within the electorate rather than himself is kind of what i'm hearing. on the other hand, i think there is an opportunity. listen. kamala harris is doing better among this group than joe biden did a few months ago and she could win all younger men and i think she might, actually. >> really? >> it's a question of what the margin is. the idea i close with in the op-ed you reference is a call to national and military service. this is something that shows strength, that shows community, that builds skills, and it's something that connects people. this is an idea, of course, that we have seen every 30 years or

so. fdr, jfk, bill clinton, were three presidents to expand on this. i don't think it's too late. in fact, i recently found out that jfk's call for the -- what ended up beinging the peace corps came a few weeks before the election of 1960. i think there is time but i think there need to be a bigger idea and bigger vision to bring these young people who deal with democratic policies back the next couple of days. >> joe rogen had endorsed rfk jr. for president this time. previously, he had said he was voting for bernie sanders. i want to play a big of what he said about both donald trump and kamala harris. >> by the way, i'm not a trump support irin any way, shape, or form. it was like this wheel and dealing billionaire character that everybody enjoyed. yeah. i felt like he did a decent job.

>> as president? >> yeah. >> when you look at his regulations, it certainly helped the economy. >> i feel like we were in a lot better spot than then for now. >> without a doubt. whoever is helping her owner coaching her or the puppet master running the strings, you're doing an [ bleep ] amazing job. >> a little bit here and there. one of the things i thought of is there any risk for donald trump, tim, in going on rogan? you listen to john and you're reminded that donald trump stock and trade has spent to be this tough guy. it's been a personality. and i wonder if it doesn't almost matter where he goes. it's going to be the same message. it's just really the demographics? >> yeah. i don't think there is a ton of risk. i guess joe rogan can make fun

of him and what donald trump is a cryptonite. you can't be strong if you're getting made fun of so i think a potential risk to monitor for. look. i think that politicians should be doing all of these things and it's just reality that donald trump has been smart to do it. like to go on joe rogan and to gorthopod casts and democrats know this. pete buttigieg is good on the this. i don't know why democrats don't have somebody that -- i thought tim walz would maybe do this but he hasn't really, gone into these spaces. i think the three cliche that hispanics are a monolith. a big group of guys like joe rogan and mixed up and have different views and liberal and social views and conserve views

on certain things. talking to them and meeting where they are is important and i do think that has been a miss for the democrats so far this cycle. >> tim and john, thank you. have a great weekend, guys. up next, a behind the scenes look how one critical county is preparing for election night with a level of security never seen before. it's called the big lie 2.0 and it's spreading like wildfire online. mind. humana's medicare advantage plans offer $0 or low monthly plan premiums. and there's a cap on your out-of-pocket costs. these plans can even include coverage for the medications you take to feel your best every day. with $0 copays on hundreds of prescriptions. most plans include dental, vision, even hearing coverage. so you can fully

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it's the search for an answer to a problem that doesn't exist, election interference. and in few places is that more true than in the arizona county that became the epi center for wild conspiracy theories about the 2020 results. nbc julia amesly recently traveled to maricopa county. i know you got to go behind the scenes. what did you learn? >> reporter: drones and police on horseback and several players of fencing will surround the maricopa election center come november 5th. is that all necessary? >> i would say it's not. we want to make sure if somebody is considering doing something and if it's a single actor, they will be deterred after the show of force.

>> somebody set fire to a box in phoenix and a man had 250,000 rounds of ammunition and plans for a mass casualty event. the election center is already on alert after protesters surrounded it following the 2020 election. some of them claiming a vote had been stolen from donald trump. >> we didn't have all of the fencing, all of the badging, all of the metal detectors and it was a scary time for us here. >> reporter: maricopa county supervisor bill gates says the intentions have turned yo in to outright threats against him and his colleagues and even his children. they received this voice mail in 2021. how did that affect you? >> the threats and the harassment affected me, but particularly to the extent that they started to threaten or mock our children. it affects me so much that literally i suffered from ptsd. >> reporter: did you ever

imagine that when you joined the county board of supervisors you would be facing ptsd therapy, problems with your family because of it? >> no, not in a million years. i'm just one of many, literally thousans tragically across this country have the same experience. >> the county is making sure voters know their ballots are secure 37 to increase transparency the maricopa election center has put cameras in rooms like this so people are taking ballots out of envelope so anyone can watch them 24/7 online. however some residents still have their doubts. >> what i hear around is that we are concerned that make sure all of the ballots are counted. >> reporter: that is why gloria bedilla signed up to be a volunteer. >> do you think there will be the same like there was in 2020? >> i hope not.

i'm wishing for the best. >> reporter: so we are hearing more about these threats by the day. as you know, they were able to determine there were about 20 ballots that were in that mailbox that were burned, but this has been a 10 million dollar investment. just from this county, maricopa county, because of what happened there in 2020 and 2022, so they say they are prepared for election night. if there are protesters, they will not get nearly as close as they did in 2020 but it's still and area to keep an eye on, particularly as we see more threats to election workers across the country and because maricopa county remains one of the most divided counties and election areas in the country. >> thank you for that, julia. now what is called the new big lie of 2024. false claims about noncitizens voting are spreading widely. our reporter did a deep dive for nbc news.com. if we go back to 2020, donald trump and his supporters filed lawsuit one after another and

judges say there is nothing here and nothing here and nothing here. about they learn some things they are using in 2024, trump' team? >> absolutely. i heard from one -- to suppress the vote and a lot of those lawsuits have a conspiracy theory in them widespread noncitizen voters is throwing the election for donald trump. now they probably will be just as unsuccessful as they were in 2020 bull the point is to legitimatize these conspiracy theories and pump their base full of lies to point to the media and say, we have a hundred lawsuits claiming this, this is serious stuff. who knows what could happen after that. we just saw ju julia's report.

>> there have been actual officials at election offices that have released numbers and, you know, they have tens of thousands of voters and they maybe have one example of somebody who tried to vote who was a noncitizen. it just -- there is absolutely nothing behind it. but you also have some reporting about the group behind some of this messaging? >> absolutely. the problem with this conspiracy theory and part of the reason why it's so powerful is because it's so hard to prove something is not happening. >> yeah. >> it's really, really difficult. so they have really hit a banger with this one. the people that are promoting this lie the most, i think the it as a fairy godmother is cleata mitchell. she switched to the tea party and ever since then she has been on this train to hoping to root

out widespread voter fraud and doesn't exist. when donald trump used it in 2020 and we had the big boogie man of mail-in ballots, she was on that call with raffensperger in georgia to find 11,000 and something votes and she became very popular and she lost her regular job and then she created a network and now she has thousands of people hanging on her every word' meeting in these weekly zoom meetings. their belief is incredibly strong. what we are going to do with that belief, yet to be seen. >> one thing that we do know is that it is intended and has the impact of talking to people who work in these election offices of making people who legitimately have the right to vote, afraid because they are worried that it will cause some problem. brandy, thank you for bringing that reporting to us. new reporting ahead about a moment from donald trump's presidency when he wanted 10,000

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new reporting that warnings we have heard recently that donald trump could use the military against americans if re-elected has more grounding in fact than we knew. "the washington post" reports that during the george floyd protest, then president trump wanted 10,000 troops ready to

deploy to the capitol. the troops got as close to washington as near at fort belvoir, virginia and other installations. not the only time tump wanted to deploy the armed forces within the united states against the advice of sillian and military leaders. we should confirm that msnbc has not confirmed this type of reporting. joining me is barry mccaffrey. good to see you, general. do you think this changes the equation? this is not just a warning of what might happen by someone like general john kelley, former chief of staff. this new reporting said that trump took action to ready the troops. does that change things? >> i think we actually knew about this, chris, on multiple occasions, trump, while acting as president, envisioned using

the military for a variety of suppression efforts. certainly, after he lost the election, there was a period of time where it looked to me he was sitting up a coup against the constitution. he had an acting secretary of defense, retired lieutenant colonel out of the white house and essentially giving orders that the armed forces and he had told on earlier occasions the chairman of jcs he wanted protesters shot. can't you shoot them in the legs or something? so we have to take this seriously. look. the armed forces 2.1 million men and women, active guard and reserve, are created to protect the country against their foreign enemies. and every young officer coming into the military learns about the posse act which essentially says and it's based on english tradition, a fear of the

military and domestic law enforcement that the u.s. armed forces don't play a role in domestic law enforcement. the exceptions, however, are enormous. there is a congressional act, the emergency power act that the president of the united states, 130 some odd authorities, the president can declare an emergency, citing the insurrection act and authority to act unilaterally. that is what we need to fear in trump regaining office. >> general, thank you very much. i have to go to arizona where president biden is speaking now. he plans to make a formal apology to indian nations for a board system that separated generations of native american children from his families. he just called this one of the most consequential things he will do as president. let's listen. >> i'm putting my sunglasses on

because i'm having trouble seeing this. all of the elected leaders and tribal community, i thank you for being here. you know, i can't tell you what a special thanks i have for deb holland, my interior secretary. i was determined -- i was determined -- i made a commitment when i became president that having -- look like america, except you're america and there never has been, never has been a native american indigenous person who was in a cabinet or in the secretary's job or any consequential job in a presidential administration. she is the first and it's clearly not the last native american cabinet secretary every and the strengthen relation between the tribal government is unlike anything that happened before and why we are here today. you know?

when i got to the senate, i was only 29 years old. i had to wait 17 days to be eligible. after i lot elected, while i was waiting, my wife and daughter were killed and my two boys were badly injured. a guy who came to my assistant was danny. the first thing he taught me, not a joke, joe, it's not indians. it's indian nations. he was serious. deadly serious about it. i spent ten years since the sitting president came and visited the indian country. that is simply much too long and that is why i'm here today. not only to fulfill my promise to be the first president to visit an indian country, but, more importantly, to write a wrong and chart a new path toward a better future for us all. i'm also here today because, as i said, my wife jill has been here ten times in indian country, literally.

first lady sends her love and says, joe, make sure you come home because every time she goes, she spent a lot of time -- excuse me for saying this, the navajo nation. i'm worried every time she goes, i'm worried she is not coming home. i watch that beautiful performance just now. it moved me deeply. a reminder of everything native people enjoy and employ. sacred traditions and culture and passed down over thousands and thousands of years. long before there was a united states. native communities flourished on these lands. they practiced diagrammatic government before we ever heard of it. developed advanced agriculture. contributed science, art, and culture. but, eventually, the united states has established and began expanding and sovereign tribal nations but as time moved on,

respect for tribal sovereignty was shattered and pushing people off their home lands and denying their humanity and their rights and telling children to cut their connection to their ancestors and their heritage. at first in 1800s, it was voluntary and asking tribes to sell their children, to send their children away to vocational schools. then, then the federal government mandated, mandated removal of children from their families and tribes, launching what is called the federal indian border school era. over 150 years -- years, from the early 1800s to 1970, one of the most horrific chapters in american history, should be ashamed. a chapter that most americans don't know about. the vast majority don't even

know about it. i was in my hotel today. i told the hotel staff we were leaving. where aria going? i told him. what are you doing? i told them. i said there are natives here. they said, i never knew that. think about how many people don't know. as president, i believe it's important that we do know. generations of native children stolen, taken away to places they didn't know, with people they never met. who spoke a language they had never heard. native communities silenced, their children's laughter and play were gone. children would arrive at schools, their clothes taken off, their hair that they were told was sacred, was chopped off. their names literally erased, replaced by a number or an english name. one survivor later recounted her

days when taken away. quote, my mother, standing on that sidewalk, as we loaded into a green bus, i could see the image of my mom burned into my mind and my heart. where she was crying. another survivor described what it was like at the boarding school. i quote, when i would talk, my tribal language, i would get hit. i lost my tongue. they beat me every day. children abused emotionally, physically, and sexually abused. forced into hard labor. some put up for adoption without the consent of their birth parents. some left for dead in unmarked graves. and for those who did return home, they're wounded in body and spirit. trauma and shame passed down through generations. the policy continued even after

the civil rights act which got me involved in politics as a young man, even after the civil rights act was passed in 1964. it continued. all told, hundreds and hundreds of federal indian boarding schools across the country, tens of thousands native children entered the system. nearly 1,000 documented native child deaths. but the real number is likely to be much, much higher. lost generations, culture, and language. lost trust. it's horribly, horribly wrong. it's a sin on our soul. i would like to ask with your permission for a moment of silence as we remember those lost and the generations living with that trauma.

after 150 years, the united states government eventually stopped the program. but the federal government has never, never formally apologized for what happened. until today. i formally apologize as president of the united states of america. for what we did. i formally apologize. it's long overdue at the tribal school in arizona, a community full of tradition and culture, and joined by survivors to do just that, apologize, apologize, apologize. rewrite the history book correctly. i have a solemn responsibility to be the first president to formally apologize to the native people. native americans, native hawaiians, native alaskans, and federal indian boarding schools, it's long, long, long overdue.

quite frankly, there's no excuse that this apology took 50 years to make. the federal indian boarding school policy, the pain it has caused will always be a significant marker of shame, a blot on american history. for too long, this all happened with virtually no public attention. not written about in our history books. not taught in our schools. let her talk. let her talk. >> let her go. there's a lot of innocent people being killed. it has to stop.

for those who went through this period, it was too painful to speak of. for our nation, it was too shameful to acknowledge. but just because history is silent doesn't mean it didn't take place. it did take place. while darkness can hide much, it erases nothing. it erases nothing. some injustices are heinous, horrific, and grievous. they can't be buried no matter how hard people try. as i said throughout my presidency, we must know the good, the bad, the truth of who we are as a nation. that's what great nations do. we're a great nation, the greatest of nations. we do not erase history. we make history, we learn from history, and we remember so we

can heal as a nation. it takes remembering. this formal apology is a culmination of decades of work by so many courageous people, many of whom are here today. survivors and descendants, allies and advocates, like the nation of native american border school healing coalition. stand up. stand up. as my grandfather would say, you're doing god's work. another courageous leader spent decades shining a light on this dark chapter. and leaders like secretary howland, whose grandparents were children add those schools, the interior department, which long ago oversaw the boarding

schools, guess what, extensive work on breaking ground. this happened with her. it's appropriate that she is bringing an end to what that very agency did. groundbreaking report documenting what happened. to all of you across indian country, the truth. the truth must be told. the truth must be heard. all across america. but this official apology is only one step toward and forward from the shadows of failed policies of the past. that's why i have committed to working with indigenous communities across the country to write a new and better chapter in our history. to honor the solemn promise the united states made to tribal nations, to fulfill our federal trust and treaty obligations. it's long, long, long overdue.

i say this with all sincerity, from day one, my administration, jill and i, kamala and the secretary, our entire administration have worked to include indigenous voices in all we do. along with secretary howland, i have appointed native americans to lead in the government. i signed an order to give tribes more autonomy to make your own decisions, requiring federal agencies to streamline grant appropriations and applications. to comanage federal programs, to eliminate heavy handed reporting requirements. it's about representing your autonomy, and i might add, it's a hell of a lot more efficient when you do it, too. folks, i'm proud to reestablish the white house council on native american affairs. relaunch the white house tribal

nation summit. and take an historic step to improve tribal consultation, with the historic laws i have signed are making some of the most significant investments in native communities ever, ever in american history. part of my invest in america agenda. and it's helping all americans. from every state and every tribe. and that's good for all america. helping native communities get through the pandemic with vaccine shots in arms and checks in pockets. i'm proud this helped cut child poverty in native communities by more than one-third. i'm proud our economy, our plan has created 200,000 jobs for native americans. record low unemployment in native communities. the strong support from the secretary and all of you, we're finally modernizing tribal infrastructure, for god's