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on that note. thank you again night cap again on saturdays at 11:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. for now, from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i'll sigh you on monday. it is 9:00 p.m. on the east coast. and 8:00 p.m. in houston, texas where we are awaiting as i just said the one and only beyonce knowles carter. queen bee to her fans expected to take the stage in support of kamala harris. vice president harris is down in the lone star ristate as par of an effort to put abortion rights back at the center of this campaign. her campaign released a he statement calling texas ground zero for the nation's extreme

abortion bans saying more than any other state, the nightmare playing out in texas for women is emblematic of the harm donald trump's abortion bans have caused across the nation, the harris campaign has released two new ads. here is a look at one of them. >> for 54 years they were trying to get roe v. wade terminate and i did it. >> he did it. >> it was devastating. >> he was bragging about the rights he stole from american women. and trump is promising to do more. >> in project 2025. >> they are restricting birth control. >> tracking pregnant women. >> enforcing a nationwide abortion ban. the government should get out of my business. >> that's not the government's business. >> in america, women make their own decision. >> i'm kamala harris and i approve this message. >> the harris campaign released a second powerful ad featuring a texas woman named andrea who

was denied an abortion after suffering pregnancy complications and anearly died of a septic infection as a result. donald trump was also in texas where he sat for an interview with podcaster joe rogan and made the case texas is ground zero for his signature policy issue. immigration. all of this comes on the heels of the final preelection poll from the new york times. which shows kamala harris and donald trump tied nationally at 48% each. abortion rights and immigration were tied as voter's second biggest concern after the economy. we will be closely following what both campaigns are doing throughout this hour. thank you for being here tonight. i know you are probably

anticipating with great eagerness beyonce knowles carter taking the stage with kamala harris. but i will say the timing, the event is slightly delayed and it's a testament to the just incredibly challenging role kamala harris has to play as the democratic presidential nominee in the final stretch of the campaign. and also, the vice president ofr the united states who is reportedly and quite obviously dealing with a kinetic situation in the middle east. we have a read-out from the white house she was briefed on. israel's retaliatory strikes. maybe that explains the delay. either way, walk and chew gum is an understatement when it comes to the task at hand for kamala harris. let me get your thoughts about going behind enemy lines to they red state of texas to make the case for abortion. what do you think of that strategy? >> it is really important. frankly, alex, you know texas

is a state that in which democrats have not been able to move turnout significantly. in 2020, there were 6 million registered voters in texas who didn't vote. and so, this is less about convincing people who support donald trump to support kamala harris and more about getting the registered voter to come out and understand what is at stake. tonight, vice president harris pulled into the situation room to be briefed about what is ou going on with iran and israel, that is a part of that. she is a leader, much of it tinged with views about women and leadership. particularly in the military lane. and i think the fact she is being briefed is an parent part of this. people around the world are not afraid she will be weak. i think they are afraid she will be strong. and i think this is kind of all

part of what she is showing the nation and has been showing the nation the last few months. >> you make a great point. we have some advance excerpts from the harris campaign about some of the stuff the vice president is going to say on stage tonight. one part really stuck out to me. this is from the remarks she will be making within the hour. though we are in texas, she will say. from anyone watching from another state, if you think you are protected from trump abortion bans because you live in michigan, pennsylvania, nevada, new york, california, or any state where voters have protected reproductive freedom, please know, no one is protected. because a donald trump national ban will outlaw abortion in every single state. i really feel like this is an

incredibly urgent message to communicate. there does seem to be i'm not going to say an overconfidence, but it feels like the issue of abortion has lost a little bit of the urgency in the states where there have been protections. national federal abortion ban which could easily happen in a trump second term will affect these united states. what do you think about underscoring the urgency of that and what else she needs to do to make the case. >> it is so important. and i think the only piece missing is that the reason we are here and the reason we have some confidence that if donald trump signed a national abortion ban, there is a

supreme court who have demonstrated their willingness to allow these abortion bans to go forward. but fill in the blank. donald trump wants to punish his enemies. he wants to prosecute those he thinks oppose him. there are people in your industry. in the legal profession who also believe they will be immune from that. the truth is no one is immune. today we heard that the washington post did not post an editorial opposing trump and endorsing vice president harris because perhaps this is the i story, the owner is worried about losing business deals if trump becomes president. all of the people who are cowering now are convincing people they will not face the wrath of trump. but a dictator is never satisfied and a dictator is

never going teston. and no one can believe that they are above this. and everyone should understand that sooner or later it will come for them. i too would like groceries to be cheaper but i would like to live in a democracy. so first things first, it is really important for americans to be mature in this moment. to face and to confront what the reality is, the danger is that we are facing. and do what is necessary to protect the republic. kamala harris has made a great case for that. her calling donald trump a fascist was important. the tiptoeing does not help anyone. let's talk about this on the battlefield that is appropriate to the moment. and i think harris is really closing her case with that in mind. >> yeah.

the great historian tim snyder reminds us on the day the washington post and the la times both declined to make an endorsement bucking decades of tradition that authoritarianism often doesn't start or culminate with pitch forks but acquiescence. it is important to note. putting a pin in that for a moment. we have a split screen here, li you will see the stage down in houston. willie nelson just took the stage. jessica alba. there are women we are told who have stories, horror stories about their own reproductive challenges who will be telling their stories tonight. and one of the things that

distinguishes the conversation is the fact that women and their experiences have been placed front and center. and one of the ways democrats have underscored the urgency and the wrenching horror of these abortion bans is by telling the stories of what happened to normal everyday folks as they navigate a landscape adulterated by the supreme court's decision. there was an ad. i was struck in a season of powerful story telling this is perhaps the most powering. this is about andrea, a young woman who wanted to start a family. let's take a listen to that ad. >> a blanket.

>> first of all, i'm the one that got rid of roe v. wade. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? >> there has to be some form. >> women will be happy, healthy, confident, and free. you will no longer be thinking about abortion. that's all they talk about. abortion. you will no longer be abandoned, lonely, or scared. you will no longer have anxiety. you will be protected and i will be your protecter. to juxtapose that woman's story with the sound of trump prizing his decision to appoint supreme

court justices that would knock down roe v. wade is powerful stuff. >> we are in such a powerful political cultural moment. women have been conditioned to remain silent about a part of our lives that are so important. we start out as girls quiet about getting our periods. we don't talk publicly about abortion. we have been taught not to do that. women don't talk about miscarriages. we don't talk about menopause. and over the last two years since the dobbs decision, we e have heard women talking about all those issues. they think they are scoring when they talk about tampon tim walz or have trump saying you are going to be protected. i think women are feeling a liberation. we are finding a voice about our sexuality and our health. that we have been trained to keep out of the public square. and we have a right to talk

about it. and so, hearing that testimonial and hearing trump over it, interestingly, his voice is louder, it's harsher, it is more certain. and yet, hers is the voice that rings in your ear. because it is truth. it is the truth of lives many women lead and it is time for us to talk about this front and center. when you read the supreme court dobbs decision and what happens in the 1700s. and all this stuff. we have to ground this in the reality of women's lives. if there is something coming out of this it is the boldness of women prepared to talk about their health. and reproductive health care as health care. who is powerful and important. you can see this with vice president harris. she came alive after the dobbs decision. she is able to talk about this in a way that is so powerful

and so authentic, it has touched every other aspect of her public presentation. and she has truly stepped into this moment and has made it her own. and made it a moment that all women can embrace and be a part of. whatever our age, whatever our history. i don't think you will be able to put it back in the box. and, that has to motivate many women as they think about who they are going to vote for. >> she will certainly make the moment her own tonight. you can see the live shot down in houston. this is the focus of her closing message. it is wonderful to have your deeply thoughtful analysis. thank you for taking some time this friday night. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, thank you alex, goodnight. we are continuing to monitor that stage down in houston where beyonce and vice president harris are getting

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♪ ♪ this is a live look at the shell energy stadium in houston, texas where the harris campaign is holding one of the biggest rallies of the season. you are looking at amanda zarowski and her husband. a powerful voice on the issue of abortion. detailing her personal struggles around reproductive choice. let's take a listen. >> i want to tell every last voter including each and every man out there that this is our fight, too. that's right. that's right. and the decision about if and

when to start a family should be hours to make, not donald trump's. not ted cruz's. that's why we need to elect vice president harris and democrats up and down the ballot who restore our reproductive freedom. >> okay, joining me now is my msnbc colleague simone sanders townsend. cohost of the weekend. and julian castro, former secretary of housing and urban development. thank you so much for being here tonight. simone, let me get your thoughts as a campaign expert

here. the notion kamala harris has gone to texas to make her point, the equivalent of going on fox news. to make the case for abortion and the choice at hand. and by the way, not just for women in texas, but women all over the country. even in blue states. we know the vice president will be talking about abortion bans affecting everyone. she is trying to underscore the issue of the issue as voters head toward the ballot. i wonder what you think about the set piece of making that case down in texas. >> it is very important. it is good to be with you here tonight. and my favorite castro. don't tell your brother. as you started speaking, it was colin alred that took the stage. running as a challenger in the senate race against ted cruz. and amanda and her husband spoke before him. vice president harris is going

down there to put a spotlight on this issue that has been a lightning rod for families and people across the country and also a boon for democrats when it comes to taking back the house and holding onto the senate. gary peters believes texas is a pick up opportunity for them. this race is very close. but there is something deeper happening here as well. i have been listening to people all day talking about, democracy an argument? i don't know if democracy is the argument but the economy. but democracy oh. and every place in the south across this country except virginia, if you are a woman and you go into a hospital, an emergency room, an you need emergency care, they are going to give you a pregnancy test.

i don't know if people know that. but they give you one whether you ask for one or not before they decide how to treat you. and in every state in the south except virginia, if you are pregnant, there are some treatments you will not be able to receive. even if your life is at stake. that is what we are talking about here. this is not an existential conversation anymore for women across the country. especially women in texas living in ground zero of this for so long. the vice president put a spotlight on this. everyone is excited about beyonce performing but people may have forgotten but beyonce had a brush with pregnancy scare and an issue in terms of the health care she received in the hospital. so this is an issue that cuts across socio economic lines. geographic lines. we are talking people's lives and livelihoods and the ability

to make their own decisions. that's what i think is really poignant here. >> as you mentioned, i wanted to take a little listen to what he is saying on stage tonight. let's dip in. >> if there is one thing i know for sure, it is that everything is bigger in texas. but ted cruz is too small for texas. he is too small! he is too small for texas. you know what small people do when you lose an election, you think i will try and overturn that election. i know many of you probably know where you were on january 6th. i know where i was. i was on the house floor doing my job. i remember when they locked all the doors. i

texted my wife who was seven months pregnant with our son cameron. whatever happens i love you. there is a mob at the door. what are you going to do colin? i went to public school in texas. i'm not just going to sit there. so i took off my suit jacket. took off my suit jacket and i was prepared to defend the house floor from that mob. that's what happened. at the same time. after he has gone around the country lying about the election. ted cruz was hiding in a supply closet. that's okay. that's okay. i don't want him to get hurt by the mob. the point is there shouldn't have been a mob.

there shouldn't have been one. you are going to lose your job if you summon one. that's what you got to do. and he is too small for texas. when 30 million texans are relying on him when the lights went out, he decided to go to cancun. can you imagine that? if your neighbor needed help in a crisis, you would go check on them. can you imagine having the privilege of looking out for our state and you say i will go check out the ritz carlton in cancun? if you did and you ran for office again, you're going to lose your job. that's what's going to happen.

>> i have to ask you, julian castro. given your experience in government and you are a son of texas. what you make on the matchup? you heard him saying ted cruise is too small for texas. recalling january 6th. i don't know if we knew this before. that ted cruz was hiding in a supply closet on january 6th. which is according to colin allred, i had not heard that before. there is always hope in democratic hearts about unseating ted cruz in the senate. can you give us an honest assessment of where you think the race is and what's happening with the democratic majority in texas that has not yet come to fruition? >> i know that every time this comes up, could texas flip, that there are a lot of people

kind of rolling their eyes saying i have heard this over and over again. but just, in ten seconds, texas went from 2012, obama losing by 16 points. allred and fletcher took two swing districts in the dfw and houston area, democrats gained 12 seats and two state senate seats. it has held constant since then. so texas has been moving to the middle. now in this race, colin allred is three to four points behind. but i think he has a legitimate shot and i will tell you why. ted cruz is probably the least likable statewide politician maybe other than the attorney general paxton. so i think he is the most vulnerable. a few years ago, republicans

did away with straight ticket voting in texas. where you can go in, you used to say i'm just voting all republican. now, you have to go race by race. campaign by campaign. and i think there are devent number of republicans, a good number of republicans may vote for donald trump even but are going to skip that race with ted cruz or vote against him or vote for the libertarian. it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a super close race within one point. and i think that he has an outside shot of winning the race here in texas. >> can you weigh in on him and compare him in terms of general texas appeal to beto o' rourke who is the most high profile challenger they have had? >> yeah look. i think that beto did a lot of work to bring democrats to the

moment they are in now. the demographics with changed in texas. but the texas democratic party has been built back up. he came within points. he was very close to winning his race when he was in the senate race that cycle. and he didn't walk away. he did a bunch of infrastructure work within the democratic party apparatus. i think this issue of abortion and voting rights, colin talks about how he was an nfl linebacker and civil rights voting rights lawyer. texas is also ground zero for many of the voting rights fights. it were the texas legislators who organized a walk-out to keep their republican counterparts from passing familiar voting rights, the

antithesis of voting rights legislation. and it became a national story. so it is ground zero for all of these different sites that colin allred is uniquely positioned to speak to. and the extremism is something that democrats, republicans, and independents, want. i think he has a chance. democrats think he has a chance. >> i wonder if you could weigh in on reproductive choice. latinos in texas, they overtook whites as the largers population group in 2022. in certain issues they tend to be, there is a mischaracterization of a lot of communities of color, that because they are latinos, they will vote democratic but they

are more socially conservative. i wonder if the issue of abortion, how does that play in the latino voting block in your state? >> because it is a community of faith, they tend to be more socially conservative. especially coming out of the to 20 race. some counties in south texas went more for donald trump. than they had four years earlier. that strengthened that idea. however, what we see in different parts of the country including in texas is in polling and also in voting on the issue of abortion that they are not nearly as conservative as they have been characterized as. whether it is in arizona, nevada where they will have ballot issues to vote on in a couple of weeks or in texas.

people would be surprised that a majority of latinos say they support preserving the right to an abortion. at lease under certain circumstances so that gives an opportunity in texas to highlight this issue. and i think it is very smart for kamala harris to be there tonight in houston because texas has such a reputation of being very extreme and antiabortion. >> i want to bring in michigan state senator mallory. i think we have you with us. i'm very interested to know how you are looking at this event that the harris campaign is staging in houston. where they are trying to put abortion and reproductive choice back on the front burner. we know that the vice president is going to talk about the fact that even if women find themselves in states with

better abortion protections than certainly in texas, they shouldn't feel any sense of comfort. because if trump is the president, once again, a federal abortion ban will affect every single state. can you talk to me about how resonant the issue is in your state now and whether or not you think the efforts tonight in houston will resonate, will reach the voters that the harris campaign is hoping it does in such a key battleground? >> absolutely it will. something so galling about trump's approach to abortion is this idea that well, he sent it to the states. that's is what everybody wanted so now we live in a country where depending on your state boundaries, you may not have access to the very fundamental right of deciding if and when is right for you to get

pregnant or the security to know if it goes wrong that you have access to health care. in michigan we codified abortion access with the 2022 ballot initiative that collected more signatures than any other issue in state history. but michiganers have been talking to, we don't live in a bubble where we learn about michigan. we are reading about ryan hamilton in texas. sharing the story of finding his wife collapsed on the floor. when she was denied care at the hospital. we read stories about a ten- year-old girl from ohio having to cross the border into indiana. after she was raped and found herself pregnant. so there is a very deep sense

here in michigan that a right we worked so hard for can be stripped away from us once again for the second time in just a short number of years. and women and their families are incredibly fired up. and for the vice president to go into texas just sends the message that this is a national issue. >> to put a key point on that, the event has 30,000 attendees according to the latest report from the harris campaign. it is obvious that the beginning and end of this event. what happens in texas does not stay in texas. this will be seen and clipped on social media across the internet in the final days of

this campaign. we are waiting for i think one of andrea, the woman in this very powerful harris campaign ad about abortion that was released today. she will be taking the stage. beyonce and beyonce's mother will take the stage. i don't know if you had read about this, but this is one of the more galling instances and there are so many. of trump's misinformation in this election. there is a new pac called the rbg pac as in ruth bader ginsburg. a republican pac started on october 16th to help trump win pro choice voters. by basically suggesting that trump is aligned on the issue of abortion with the late great

supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. this is the caption from the ad. is they have launched two abortion themed ads besigned to fool people who care about abortion rights into believing that trump doesn't have an extreme agenda on the issue of choice. first of all, what's your reaction, and second of all, does that concern you? >> if i had edges they would be snatched. i want to say it is unconscionable. i teach my class on monday. and in my study discussion this past monday, one of the things that came up was donald trump, we were discussing the news of the day. donald trump and his stance on abortion. one of the students said well you know, there are strategists and reporters out there who would say donald trump has moderated his position on abortion. this cycle if you look at what

he said. and i was like, well, if if we just go off of his random statements, sure. i guess i could see how someone could make that case but that does not line up with the reality of what we know to be true. given everything he has said and what he has done. i think that this type of misinformation can be quite effective. because there are people out there. people who know better. who will say i don't know. i heard donald trump and he said he wants to be the protecter of women. this is why people can't just read the headlines and we have to be very specific so folks are getting the facts to make informed decisions. >> yeah. i mean, julian castro. do i need to remind people? the new sort of cheer at trump rallies is daddy don.

trump has positioned himself as this patriarchal father figure who will take care of the little ladies and spank the naughty 15-year-old daughters according to tucker carlson in a disturbing and kind of perverted speech earlier this week. i want to focus on this phenomenon. about 12% of voters said they would vote for both trump and an abortion rights referendum. they are on the ballot in both of those states. how do you read that? >> i mean, alex, it's hard. i would love to sit down and talk at length to that 12% of people who are saying that. right? they seem to be diametrically opposed. you will not live in a world world where donald trump is the president and you have abortion

rights. he is not even pretending anymore. neither is tucker carlson or any of the guy on stage for trump and out there campaigning for him. this is a guy who likes to play the role of an authoritarian. and apparently some people respond to the strong man character. that shouldn't be surprising because that happens all over the world. but i think for so long in the united states, we thought that kind of thing wouldn't happen here and so many people wouldn't follow somebody who plays up this character. but that's been trump's bread and butter in politics now for a decade. so it is not surprising, this time the stakes are even higher. and the evidence of what he would actually do is clearer. and i think that when you look at that crowd out there tonight in houston, that's america.

that's a diverse coalition of people. that is what gives me hope that kamala harris will pull out this election. she has a big tent. a diverse coalition of people of different backgrounds in all of these swing states that are reflected there tonight in houston. and i think ultimately that is going to prevail over this dark vision of trump and his allies. >> i think there is also to that end, there is some interesting numbers on the point of abortion. the new york times sienna polling among likely voters in the united states, the most important issue for them, 27% of them is the economy. but abortion also, nearly. it is 15%, tied with

immigration. it is in the top two tiers of issues of import. the thing that should be disturbing to everybody is the gender divide over it. only 6% of men say it is the most important issue where 24% of women say it is the most important issue. mallory, do you have thoughts on the gender gap given the extraordinary effort i think democrats have made to bring men into this issue. it takes two to tango as it were in terms of reproduction. yet men, the ads we are playing that feature the pain felt by husbands. democrats have tried to make an effort to bring men into the conversation. but for whatever reason, in this polling it feels very

divided in terms of gender. >> it's interesting and i would challenge that polling a little bit. i have spent a lot of time talking to young voters. i spent the past weekend with collage democrats from colleges around michigan who defended on michigan state and young men. granted these are young democrats. but men who said i unction the importance of this issue, but it doesn't feel like mine. and i don't quite know how to talk about it and i don't want to speak for my friends, any girlfriend, my sister, my mom. and that is on us to give people permission to speak about the issue in a way that makes sense for them. if you ask a woman if abortion or the economy are their most important issue, they will probably say both. and if pressed, thinking about

the decision to become pregnant is the most important economic decision any women will make in their entire lifetime. if you ask a man that question, it would not be the most important economic issue. but when i talk to men of all ages. people who know someone who had a miscarriage, an atopic pregnancy. this impacts all of us. and as we see this play out, men are going to come to the table and understand this is everybody's issues. we don't want to see people die or choose between a fulfilling life or finding yourself in a place where something has gone wrong that could have been

prevented. >> it is all so excellent to have your perspective mallory. just because you have that, you are on the ground. and you are talking to the voters and that's where the truth lies. mallory, thank you very much for your time this friday evening. i thank you for hanging out with us. there is much more to come tonight. beyonce sand kamala harris will be taking the stage in houston, texas just a few moments from now. so hang with us. so hang with us. i asked myself, why doesn't pilates exist in harlem? so i started my own studio. getting a brick and mortar in new york is not easy. chase ink has supported us from studio one to studio three. when you start small, you need some big help. and chase ink was that for me. earn up to 5% cash back on business essentials with the chase ink business cash card from chase for business. make more of what's yours.

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as we await vice president harris and beyonce knowles carter in houston together on stage, it is worth noting that donald trump also spent the day in texas where he spoke about immigration, saying the u.s. has become a quote dumping ground. he also issued a blanket denial of sorts related to recent reporting about his authoritarian instincts. his fascist tendencies and admiration for dictators and he stoked more skepticism about the election. his comments planting the seeds for the big lie 2.0. >> i'm not supposed to say it but we are winning by a lot actually. these used to take one day. now they go on forever. lotsof bad things happen. where are the votes i saw two days ago? we are painting that section and we decided to move them, sir. oh, you can't believe it.

>> i'm joined once again by simone sanders townsend and julian. here we are, big lie 2.0. there has been vanishingly. there has been almost no election fraud. historically and especially now. i guess, what do you think the appropriate response or counterpoint should be from democrats as donald trump sows the seeds for the big lie 2.0? >> i would say last time he fraudulently claimed he won on election night. when he had not won. and i think people should believe he will do that again this time. the difference is last time he

did so staying he was in fact still going to be the next president. this time he will be doing it from mar-a-lago, somewhere in new york. but the effect i think will still be the same. so it should be clear. the vice president has been clear this is something they are prepared for. they are expecting that he will do it. he is already laying the ground work. and i think the state is where this fight will rev up more. i protect there will be more challenges to the state certification prior to january 6th. >> and that is a terrifying thought indeed. julian, we are looking at a live shot. of traverse city michigan where donald trump is supposed to hold a rally. he is running extraordinarily

late. up to two hours. some people have started leaving that event. we will i'm sure go back to the live shot down in the shell energy arena down in houston where we are waiting any moment now. beyonce knowles carter and vice president harris. up to 30,000 people in the crowd. and i want to talk about what you touched on. the coalition assembled here in contrast to the coalition in michigan. you cannot tell who will attend based on the attendance. but the cultural relevance of what's happening in texas. and in michigan, where he talks about the united states as a dumping ground, a garbage can. he evokes darkness and apocalypse. it is resonating with some section of the electorate. but i think there is something

america likes about optimism and hope. and it is just an truth in american life that people do enjoy feeling good about the place they live and the community they are a part of. >> yeah. you see the images there. it is excited about the country that we are. and the future and what we can create together. working together. and you see the other one. it is downtrodden. and you know. somewhat mad at the world. a lot of trump supporters. and he encourages that with the way he talks about other people. how negative he is about our country. what we have seen is americans tend to go for optimism. not a blind optimism, but generally optimism when you

combine it with what kamala harris has combined it with, substance. experience. and a path forward. it has been extraordinary for me to see all of these things coalesce. and yeah. she has beyonce and bruce springstein and president obama. and folks you would think you know, celebrities and people in politics coming to her aid. she has all of those everyday americans out there telling their stories about the hope they have because of her. and the danger they know donald trump presents because of what they felt in their own lives. because of a bad pregnancy they experienced or other cruelty they have experienced because of trump or his policies. so it is a whole cross section

of america that speaks to the need to turn that page. and to go with someone who has a plan and is optimistic. i have to believe you know, if history is any guide, people will go over that versus the other side. >> it's a good point. in addition, the staggering chasm that separate it is two visions of america in terms of the two parties, there is the reality the republicans have shown themselves to be exclusively uninterested in representative democracy. there are councilmen at the top of the ticket. someone who incited a mob who wanted to stop the certification of electoral results. election results. they have engaged in voter

suppression. embraced anti-democratic election. today in north carolina, andy harris suggested that the state of north carolina, a swing state, should just go ahead and award the state's electoral votes to trump now before any actual votes are tallied. now i believe he has since tried to walk those comments back a little bit. but they are saying the quiet part out loud at this point. you have to think, there are ten nikki haley voters who could decide this election who say i know i care about the price of eggs but that is pretty egregious. >> and let's remember, the nikki haley voters didn't support donald trump in the primary. even after nikki haley was no longer officially in the race, thousands of people continued to vote for nikki haley in primaries. all over the country. those are folks i don't think will support donald trump in this general election. but you can't assume, you have

to earn their votes and the harris campaign has tried to do just that. >> simone and julian, i'm sorry i could not give you beyonce but she is coming. you can feel the energy the crowd through the television screen. so everybody hang out. do not change the channel. that's it for this hour of television. i will hand it over to the great lawrence o'donnell, the mc you want nor something like this. the last word. he gets beyonce and kamala harris. over to you. >> thank you alex. i have never said this from this anchor desk, but we are standing by for beyonce. we will be going live to that stage in houston as soon as anything