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we've got a packed show for you tomorrow. we will talk to gary peters, tammy baldwin, lisa blount rochester and kathy. be sure to tune in tonight for the final episode of my generation. that is tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. velshi will cover now. >> i want to read something that caught my attention as i was scrolling through social media. michael steele's point about his vote.
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this is very important for people to read. today we are asked once again to make a choice between a darker version of ourselves or a hopeful future for our children and grandchildren. i choose the love of my country over party. i choose the noble responsibility of my civic duty. i choose my conscience because it reminds me of what i value as a citizen. i stand with my neighbors. i choose a leader who despite political differences, values us more than herself. i have to say that it really stuck with me, michael. it's an important message. thank you for that. thank you for reminding us of all the reasons why we need to do our civic duty. citizenship is not the right it is a responsibility. >> that shouted at me. i'm about to take up a collection. >> you have a great rest of your day. i will see you tomorrow.
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velshi, starts now. it is saturday, october 26. there are 10 days remaining until election day. more than 36 million people across this country already have taken advantage of early and absentee voting options. this morning, early in person voting will open up in four more states are california, new jersey, new york and michigan. the crucial swing state work kamala harris will post the get out the vote event. the former first lady will be the latest e lister to hit the trail with the nominee. on thursday night she held her first really with barack obama. at her event last night she was introduced on stage by one of the biggest stars on the planet. beyonci and kelly rowland. both grew up in houston where the rally was held.
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things looked relatively normal on the democratic side, not so on the republican side. donald trump has sounded more and more like the fascist he promises to be if reelected. his rhetoric is getting more extreme, racist, authoritarian. last night he arrived nearly 3 hours late because he spent three hours recording a friendly interview with our popular podcasts. the joe rogan experience. donald trump continues to escalate his dehumanizing rhetoric against opponents and critics who he called the enemy from within. immigrants, he said they turned america into a garbage can. donald trump remains a unique threat to democracy. even though the election is not over and victory is far from a sure thing, we see examples of how his particular brand of third tourney is him is undermining democratic values.
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washington post ceo announced the paper will not be making an endorsement in this year's race. the first time the paper declined to do so since 1988. 36 years ago. this is in reaction or a pre- action to the possibility of donald trump winning a second term to usher an administration dedicated to exacting retribution against his enemies including critics in the press. the posts on supporters, supporters of kamala harris has been drafted , and the decision to no longer make endorsements came from the owner. jeff basil's. this is the second national publication to make such a move. followed by a similar from l.a. times. people who study authoritarianism including tim snyder, had a post this week.
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obeying in advance. the idea that institutions like the free press will act according to how they expect the regime will want them to act. in other words, they will obey in advance. that's exactly what is happening. 10 days out from the most important election as donald trump escalates attacks on the media. l.a. times refusal to endorse a candidate led to several resignations. the posts decision had one high- level resignations so far. shortly after the news broke, robert kagan, stepped down. he is one of tom's most prominent conservative critics. like other notable conservatives, sounding the alarm about the threat that donald trump poses to democracy, from the beginning. he had written not bod -- bid
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-- this is how fascism comes to america. he did not write that this week or this year or last year. that was published in may of 2016. more than eight years ago. reads like it was written yesterday. we are at a serious inflection point. donald trump cannot be joked away. he cannot be washed by pretending he meant something he didn't say. we cannot ignore the science that tell us he is a fascist and will rule like one. not after john kelly went on record to say that he thinks donald trump fits the definition of a fascist. kelly confirmed that trump told him on multiple occasions that he thinks hitler did good things. we should heed kelly's warning. he spent many hours speaking to donald trump about how he wants to govern.
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kelly is a military man. a general whose and more than four decades with the marines. people like him do not speak on political matters. his loyalty is to his country, not to a politician. the fact that kelly is making concerns public is a tremendous deal. we did not need john kelly or anyone else to tell us that donald trump is a fascist. he has been telling that himself for years. nobody who believes in democracy would call for the constitution to be terminated under any circumstance. or file to be a dictator on day one or to cozy up to brutal dictators. or to suggest to use the military against american citizens. or to overturn the results of an election he lost. donald trump has done all of the above. repeatedly, brazenly, and with
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impunity. the polls indicate the race remains extremely close. that is mind blowing. the fact that the election is not a landslide in favor of democracy, suggests that the country is not treating this with urgency. many people still do not believe fascism can happen here. they did not believe in germany either, by the way. when you think about the most recent strong men like putin or victor or bond or the dictator in the philippines, they did not use violence to seize power. they used political moves. as the washington post endorsement shows, not the press. the state might be vulnerable to his threats, too. there still is a guardrail that stands.
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your vote. let's be clear. a vote for trump is a vote for american fascism. they can bs their way about the fact that it's about low taxes or immigrants or inflation, that would be to ignore the facts. that would be to ignore donald trump's own words. a vote for trump is letting him off the hook for him trying to overturn the 2020 election and his crimes for which he has been indicted. it would be for democracy and which is stands. democracy itself is at stake this year. they are willing to put their reputations on the line to vote for their country over their party. one of the conservatives is j michael. he made that point clear of his endorsement of kamala harris.
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voting for kamala harris, i assume her public policy views are vastly different from my own. i am in different as to her policy views on any other issues that america democracy, the constitution and the rule of law. i believe all americans should be. the 2024 election for president, there are no important issues for america. joining me now, previously served on the fourth circuit and one of the most respected legal minds in this nation. mike pence sought his advice about what the constitution says about certification of the college votes, it helped the country avoid the constitutional crisis. thanks for being back this morning. >> always a pleasure. >> you believe the choice in the race is clear. kamala harris is fit for office.
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donald trump is not fit for office. apparently this is not clear to many americans. the race shows a deadlock. this is the last 10 days to convince people of what the issue is. tell me what your best argument is now? >> i hope that americans come to their senses. to understand just what is at stake in the upcoming election. that is, america's democracy and the rule of law. nothing more, nothing less. the various policy positions, that separate the two candidates , in this selection has comparative little significance to respective of democracy and
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rule of law. these are the constitutional pillars, the cornerstones, of our constitutional republic. our democracy and the rule of law have made america the envy of the world for almost 250 years. donald trump, over the past four years , beginning on january 6, 2021, has corrupted america's democracy and rule of law. the other two fundamental tenants of our constitution and of our republic, the willingness of presidential aspirants, to expect the will of the american people. when they vote on election day,
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this year, in 10 days for the other fundamental tenant, every presidential candidate, every candidate for the office of the presidency, must, must pledge to a peaceful transfer of power. without the acceptance by the candidates of the will of the american people and their pledge to a peaceful transfer of power, america would have no democracy. >> the preservation of democracy throughout history, america or other countries, can come at a cost to individual citizens. i think it is an important message coming from a person like you because some people have called you names. they accuse you of things for standing by your principles.
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it was a little less hot on january 4th and fifth of 2020 when you are considering these things. what is your advice to people who are struggling with, will they say i'm betraying my party, my conservative values? >> the answers are obvious. they would not be betraying their cause or their political party. they would instead be putting their country, put the u.s. before the party and themselves. this is not a difficult decision for americans. it ought not be. the republicans in particular, must decide if they are willing to put their country, to put
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america, above themselves and political party. they must be honest with themselves. finally. if they're unwilling to do so now, they will never do so. it is just that simple. this is a decision that all of us must live with the rest of our lives. as i said in my endorsement of the vice president, i do not want to live with the idea that i cast a vote in favor of donald trump in light of his corruption of america's democracy and the rule of law over the past four years. we must remember, and republicans dismissed this, donald trump is being prosecuted by the u.s. for
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perhaps the greatest crimes that an incumbent president could commit. is it really going to be the case that americans will return to the white house that manned who has been prosecuted by the united states for the crimes? i do not want to believe that is possible. i hope that it is not. >> you have something in common with john kelly. he is a military man and you are a man of the system of justice. both have tried not to be political. you both spent careers in institutions that typically try to stay out of politics. john kelly is on the record about how donald trump meets the definition of a fascist. a watershed moment. on a personal level, did you
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wrestle with the idea that you standing up for your beliefs with country over party, called you to weigh in -- that was not the most comfortable place. clearly now it is a well morning slipper. you had to. talk to me about that. >> first, let me say to the country, i have the greatest respect and admiration for general kelly. as i do for general millie. these two men served in the highest positions closest to the former president. they have expressed their views about the former president in the upcoming election very recently. as for myself, i have not in my view weighed in the politics at
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all. it just so happens that the selection is about america's democracy, the constitution, and the rule of law, for the reasons we all know. the fact that i have taken the positions that i have on those questions of law, if you will, has no bearing on politics. at the end of the day, i did decide to endorse and vote for the vice president. that was not as you pointed out because of her policy views. it was because of her positions on america's democracy, the constitution, the rule of law in stark contrast to those of
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the former president. the time has come for america to decide whether donald trump is fit to be president of the united states again? the question is not whether vice president harris is fit to be president. she is. the question is whether donald trump is fit? he is not. when he was entrusted with the presidency before, he betrayed the nation. >> good to see. thank you. we appreciate your wisdom and being on. i will talk to sherrod brown and jamie raskin and debbie stabenow and bob casey. and colin allred.
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turning now to the middle east where last night israel conducted retaliatory airstrikes on iran. the strikes hello iran's ballistic missile attack on israel that took place october 1st. those iranian strikes on israel, most were shot down by israel with the aid of the u.s., came itself as retaliation to israel's killing of the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah in late september. israel publicly vowed to retaliate for the october 1st attacks. a new statement they said they went after military targets in iran. nbc news has been told they did not target oilfields or nuclear sites.
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they tell nbc news that u.s. was not involved but they were given a heads up prior. access was told that israel sent a message by several third parties warning them not to respond in an attempt to limit the on going back and forth between the countries. iranian state news said two soldiers died. agencies have been downplaying the attacks. three military bases were targeted but air defense systems helped limit the damage. u.s. secretary of state, antony blinken, was in the region with meetings with benjamin netanyahu and other israeli officials. he urged israel not to hit sensitive targets in order to prevent a wider escalation. a senior biden administration officials said that the strikes should be the end of the direct military exchange between israel and iran. joining me from tel aviv, raf
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sanchez. good to see you. israel says the mission is over. iran is downplaying. the u.s. says it should be the end . what are you hearing? it keeps going back and forth. >> reporter: as you know the ultimate decider in iran is the supreme leader. we are waiting to hear from him. you mentioned iranian state media is largely playing down the israeli strike that appears to be paving the way for a political path where iran does not necessarily have to respond. it's complicated by the fact that at least two iranian soldiers were killed according to the iranian army. it's possible the number may rise in coming hours and that could create political pressure inside of iran for some kind of retaliation. it could mean that it could not simply be left off the way that israel's retaliation in april
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was. president biden had been urging benjamin netanyahu for weeks now that while the u.s. understood that they would retaliate, the biden administration did not want to see a new cycle of escalation. they called on israel to carry out limited proportional attacks, avoid civilian casualties, not to strike nuclear facilities or oilfields. from what we can see, it appears israel largely heated that of vice. the iranians are saying that israel targeted three military bases in separate provinces, including tyrone. they are saying air defenses largely held her. israel said they were targeting factories that made some ballistic missiles that fired on october 1st. we do not know exactly the scale of the damage but it is notable that in israel, no instructions have been given to civilians to stay near bomb
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shelters. that indicates that the israeli government does not believe an iranian attack is imminent. i am joined by crucial swing state senators. bobby stabenow, colin allred and jamie raskin. i will talk to sherrod brown for the only democrat who holds statewide office in ohio. t a he wing stain. this bottle says i need to pretreat. that stuff has way more water. a little bit of tide goes a long way, so you can save your shirt and maybe even a little money. moat the... library.s right... for a better clean with less... it's got to be tide. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd
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held the sea for 18 years. currently in the fight of his political life against bernie moreno. a former car dealer who was endorsed by donald trump. washington post poll shows around and marino in dead heat. abortion. every other state, ohio voters came down on the side of preserving rights. a constitutional amendment assures reproductive healthcare. still a key issue for ohio voters. according to a poll, it was second to the economy for a list of issues. 1 in 5, cited it. 63% said abortion should be mostly or always legal. sherrod brown has a 100% rating from planned parenthood to support reproductive rights.
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his republican challenger, bernie moreno, has called for a national abortion ban. but moreno brought abortion to the center of the race when he said at a town hall that it is a little crazy for women to be single issue voters on abortion. it's a little crazy, especially for women that are like past 50. and they get to myself, i don't think this is an issue for you. as you can imagine that remark did not go over well with women in ohio. it was the inspiration for this ad from sharon brown's list is sharad brownstein. >> bernie moreno thinks it's crazy that women care about abortion rights. >> he says for older women like me it's not an issue. >> how is this an issue for you? >> he's against abortion even when it comes to or incest.
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>> bernie moreno, i am 100. i am definitely not crazy. >> joining me now is sherrod brown. thank you for being with us. this is wild. we spent time talking about the fact that abortion is a rights issue. it's as important to you and me than it is to any woman. let alone if they are above 50 or not. two people from ohio understand that you are in a tight race and the senate flips, people like bernie moreno will be in charge of the u.s. senate? >> we are making sure that people know. people paid attention last year. passed with 57%. past in areas that i lost in the past. areas where donald trump won.
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the contrast is clear. pretty moreno thinks he knows better so when he said he wants 100% abortion ban. he also said, no exceptions for or incest. or the health of the woman. bernie moreno, he has repeatedly stiffed workers out of overtime pay. the contrast is great. they have so much money on their masses. i asked people to contribute $50 or $20. that's the only way to stay competitive. mitch mcconnell has spent more against me than any race in history. we are on track to win what we need more help. ohio is a state that is hard to quantify. it has voted more
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conservatively the last few presidential cycles. when it comes to issues, ohioans find themselves pretty open to a robust policy discussion. they want their individual decisions. >> that's right. the constitutional amendment to eliminate gerrymandering. all likelihood it will pass fairly easily. people do not feel like they are well represented and they do not want to send the letter to washington that will dismiss what the voters want. abortion is one of them. the voters know they can trust me with my message and performance of dignity of work. they cannot really trust bernie, he pretty much looks out for himself and rich friends. >> the stuff that donald trump
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has been doing, the fascist and racist talk, it was centered in your state. how much of that is influenced voters? >> we focus on this race and i have endorsed kamala harris. i appreciate her talking about the dignity of work. voters are focused on this issue in this race. i make the contrast that they are spending more money than me. we fight back with small contributions. i said earlier to come to my website. there is an enthusiasm. my wife and i did another tour around the state with events in every major city. i have seen enthusiasm that i have not seen in a long time.
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that's why i'm optimistic to make the contrast and if bernie moreno thinks he knows better than the voters, my wife is a noted journalist who wrote a column to say, see you at the polls. >> you are the second favorite guest from that household. your wife is a long-standing favor. you are in close competition. thank you. >> people all the time come up to me and say we like you but we really love your wife. thank you for endorsing that concept. >> thank you very much. debbie stabenow, bob casey, colin allred, and next, jamie
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welcome back. i am joined by jamie raskin. thank you for being with us. i've got a sense of alarm about me this last week. not to do with polls and trends. it is to do with the manifestation of fascism that we are seeing out of the things that donald trump and some of his congress supporters continue to say. i really am alarmed at the fact that stuff there should be entirely disqualifying, is not, for donald trump. >> i think we have to look beyond donald trump to what is looking -- going on with the republican party.
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they do not accept the outcome of democratic elections that do not go their way. they embrace or refused to disavow political violence as an instrument to maintain political power. they organize not as a democratic political party, but autocratic cult of personality around one allegedly charismatic figure. four, they do not advance policy platforms or issues the public can debate. they got mad at joe biden when he said there were fascist -- >> that is right. we talked to tim snyder about the concepts of obedience. people are fearful of what happens if donald trump comes into power?
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he spent years talking what he would do to critics, opponents, journalists, politicians, lawyers, prosecutors. it should not work in a democracy but it seems to have affect. the most recent example are the two newspapers who are not endorsing people. i worry conceptually about the affect it will have on people. if donald trump comes, he's going for you. >> you can feel the spread in anxiety over the vast amount of americans. the only answer is activism. talk to people and find the remaining undecided voters. we know the republican party has left us down. the u.s. senate has let us down
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with the second impeachment with only 37-43 vote. we needed 57. the supreme court is in donald trump's pocket. what i'm saying all over the country, massive outpouring of activism and engagement with this process. they're trying to undermine it with fear and anxiety. people will hang tough. in when you're running for an election your constituents are worried about what they are worried about. what works right now? when you talk about the fascism, that will only move undecided voters or the week trump voters. is it better to spend your time on people who are less committed democratic voters. to say, and cast your ballot. what is the win lie? >> different dimensions to the project 2025 politics that donald trump set into motion. i have thousands of federal
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workers who live in my district, they are rightfully concerned about donald trump and project 2025, trying to purge 50,000 federal workers and replace them with donald trump flunkies and sycophants. they want to abolish the department of education, headstart, they want to ban the use of the words climate change. there are dangerous things they are proposing to do. my constituents are concerned about the idea of a nationwide ban on abortion. a lot of republicans are downplaying right now. mike johnson, one of the cosponsors of the light begins at conception act. the title tells you everything you need to know. they want to pass on national federal law banning abortion. making birth control far more difficult to get. at this point we are looking for anybody who has not voted yet to emphasize the stakes of
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this election. is america going to be in league with putin and kim jong- un and china, who sent troops to join russia in the bloody invasion of ukraine? or on the side of democracy and freedom? these are the stakes are they want people to be paralyzed with fear. they want people -- we want people to go out and help us win the election. then we have to defend against donald trump. >> thank you for joining us. jamie raskin of maryland. kamala harris departed texas ian route to michigan. later she will go to philadelphia for another campaign event. senator bob casey of pennsylvania. colin allred of texas. running to replace ted cruz. democratic senator, debbie stabenow, early in person
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voting is officially underway as of this morning.
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early in person voting is underway in michigan. most of the state it is the first day that voters can cast ballots. michigan is a king state that was won by donald trump in 2016 and flipped by biden.
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the key path to victory for both candidates. a poll shows harris and donald trump are pulling within the margin of error. the labor vote is key, home to more than half 1 million union members. uaw endorsed harris in july. it was a boost to her candidacy. after harris replaced biden, international brotherhood of teamsters and firefighters made the decision not to endorse a candidate after historically supporting democrats and backing biden in 2020. another challenge for harris, skepticism from arab voters who are unhappy with the support for israel's war in gaza. hamtramck mayor, who is muslim and from yemen, posted a video.
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he said, he assured his goal is to end the chaos in middle east. a reporter for the free press said mayor bill bosley said we need a commander in chief to come stop the wars. notably, donald trump's actual response to the war in gaza is telling benjamin netanyahu to do what you have to do. the arab-american pack declined to endorse harris or trump according to the arab american institute. detroit has a population of nearly 400,000 people. joining me now is someone steeped in michigan politics. great front of the show and knows the voters they are well. debbie stabenow of michigan. she's retiring once for term ends at the end of the year.
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that makes us sad. good to see you. thank you for being here. did you hear my conversation with sherrod brown? what will compel michiganders, who have shown a propensity to vote on issues above other things. what will compel them to vote for kamala harris? >> it is always wonderful to be on your show. i am deeply involved all over michigan with the vice president and her running mate. i have to start by saying i told my colleagues it feels like iowa or new hampshire in the primaries. we are seeing people everyday. no one can say that kamala harris and tim walz have not done everything physically humanly possible in michigan. they are right on the money. what will make a difference,
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people actually seeing them, hearing them, understanding that they have something beyond chaos. don't underestimate how weary people are. i hear it every day. my gosh, not more of this. not more hatred. not more division. what they need to hear, that we will move forward with something positive that affects their lives in a positive way that supports the auto industry. brings down the housing cost and the prescription drug costs. to make sure everybody has a fair shot. they are respected. we may have differences, but that's not what donald trump is about. he's about rounding out immigrants and a muslim ban and doing everything he can to stop anybody from having a different opinion. eminem, was awesome with president obama the other night, he set it right when he said that everybody has the
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right to have their own opinion. to be able to say their own opinion. that is on the line now. >> what is the issue the rest of us are missing about the union stuff? the biden/harris administration has been the most prounion administration in history. president biden was on a picket line. deeply involved with the teamsters potential strike against ups and the uaw strike and the other labor movements we have seen. why is there a continued hesitancy among union members? >> michigan firefighters and teamsters, and the uaw and other unions across the state, they strongly are supporting kamala harris and tim walz. nationally, i am not sure what those politics are? it seems that donald trump has been successful to be intimidating people. whatever
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it is. the truth is, people of michigan understand who is creating jobs and who will create more. i was in saginaw, michigan, yesterday. we were announced over 1000 new jobs at hemlock semi conductor because of what we did to invest in chips to expand what we are doing on clean energy. i can take you to flint or bay city or muskegon, to detroit, we are creating jobs. the folks that know that the best are the folks involved in the unions in michigan. they are union jobs. >> good to see you as always. thank you for joining us. we hope you will continue to be a guest of our show whether or not you are serving. debbie stabenow of michigan. we will be right back. in, complete nutrition you need,
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