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has accomplished a lot of great things that are coming to fruition now, especially inflation is coming down, gas prices are coming down but i don't think she needs to distance herself or anything. you know, we don't have anyone out there making racist comments or controversial statements, they need to create a controversy somewhere. the president is campaigning for in different ways. a lot of people out there in support of her presidency but donald trump doesn't even have the support of you.support of we begin with decision 2024 in the race for the white house. election day now just ten days
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away. and with the candidates on the home stretch, in a super tight race, vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump are laser-focused on battleground states. they're tweaking messages. they're fighting to pick up every possible vote. talking to labor leaders, he seized the opportunity to focus on donald trump's character. >> trump has no class at all. zero. none. if it wasn't a political campaign, how would you characterize his manners and decency? i mean, beneath the president. >> appearing with michelle obama on the first day of early in-person voting there, tim walz is in arizona. donald trump is also in michigan. he will speak later in pennsylvania. michelle obama's first appearance with vp harris will be at a get out the vote event
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in kalamazoo. and yesterday, of course, harris shared that stage with beyonce. trump supporters yesterday were forced to wait close to three hours in cold temperatures where they were while he did a two and a half hour interview with host joe rogan. >> we got so tied up. i figured you wouldn't mind because we're trying to win. my people came to ble and said we could cancel our evening event. i'm sure people wouldn't mind. i said are you crazy? i'm not canceling. >> well, people did leave in droves. meantime, reaction from surrogates on both sides. fascism and hitler. >> john kelly was fired by donald trump and he's pissed off about it. who do we believe? do we believe multiple eyewitnesses or a disgruntled exemployee?
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>> when he calls our service members who died in battle "losers," when he calls our fellow citizens "vermin," people make excuses for him. act like it's okay. as long as our side wins, it's all right. >> reaction from voters who sat out the 2020 election but they claimed the vote in 2024. here's a sample of what they said about their hope and fears surrounding vp harris. >> when it comes to kamala harris, what are you hopeful about? >> i'm hopeful she will do what she says as far as lowering costs of everyday goods. >> when it comes to kamala harris, what are you most fearful of? >> i'm afraid if she tries to do all the things she wants to do, like building 3 million new homes and plans for this and plans for that, that the deficit will just spiral out of control. >> and here's a sample of their
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hopes and fears surrounding trump. >> when it comes to donald trump, what are you most hopeful about? >> i would hope that just overall, our economy and people's day-to-day living would hopefully be a little easier. >> what about him scares you? does anything scare but trump? >> if he were to get elected, i would be afraid he would spend his whole term, you know, twitter fighting and fighting in the courts rather than being president. >> we've got reporters and analysts in place covering all the new developing story lines for us. we'll first go to aaron gilchrist who is with the vice president in kalamazoo, michigan. just a couple hours from now we have harris and former first lady michelle obama who will take the stage together for the first time. what are you hearing today about the big rally? >> well, i think today, we're seeing and hearing a few different things. i can tell you in the last
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half-hour or so, the vice president made her first stop here in michigan at a doctor's office in this state where she was able to spend a few minutes talking to a group of female doctors and medical students. this was a part of the visit to michigan where the vice president wants to focus on reproductive rights. she was able to have a conversation. she was asking them questions about what they're seeing on the ground, as she termed it, in their medical practice and the concerns that they have going forward about women's right to medical reproductive access, reproductive health care, i should say. the vice president was able to larry from them. they voiced some concerns on a ban on abortion nationwide. they voiced concerns about the potential for them to get in trouble, as it were, for any medical services that they may provide and the threat that a national abortion ban would have on other types of reproductive health care or other types of health care in general that women may seek.
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now, this was obviously, a major focus of the vice president's visit to houston, texas last night where she appeared on stage with beyonce, and they both talked about reproductive freedom in their remarks last night. the vice president making clear that she was putting the blame on donald trump for the concerns that women have, and for the threat to reproductive freedom that women are dealing with in texas, and in particular, where there are strict abortion laws in place. i believe we may have some of what the vice president said on stage. let's play that. >> to all the men and women in this room and watching around the country, we need you. your voice has power and magnitude. your vote is one of the most valuable tools and we need you. >> men across america do not want to see their daughters and
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wives and sisters and mothers put at risk because their rights have been taken. i see the men here. and i thank you. the men of america don't want this. this. >> so what we're seeing now is the vice president with some of the arguably most popular, potentially most influential women in this country. beyonce last night. former first lady michelle obama tonight. obviously, two very popular women who can draw attention to vice president harris, and then she can take the stage and she's the one who has to close the deal to make the argument as to why she believes she would be a better president than former president trump. certainly those women are helping to get attention. the attention of people who have not yet decided for whom they want to vote in the days ahead and into election day on november 5th. the vice president will speak here tonight before moving on to
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philadelphia. there is the point in the campaign season when we'll see both candidates, really, out and about in the battleground states over and over again. michigan, of course, one of the key battleground states that the vice president wants to win. we're in kalamazoo county, a blue county. it has been for many years. voted for president biden last time around by about 18% or so, i think. still the vice president wants to be here to encourage people to take that enthusiasm that she's seen and take it to the ballot box. >> it will be a race to the finish. that's for sure. thank you so much from kalamazoo. we'll go now to nbc campaign embed from michigan. as early voting gets underway statewide there, trump just ended an extended rally in novi. what did we hear? >> reporter: that's right. the former president wrapping up remarks moments ago in novi,
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michigan. we leader about the economy and immigration. but today, he also went after the vice president saying that she is supportive of war and would even love the idea of a draft. i wanted to hear how he talked going that. take a listen. >> it would be a gamble with the lives of millions of people. she would get us into world war iii because she's too grossly incompetent to do anything about it. your sons and your daughters will end up getting drafted. they'll have a draft. she would love a draft. all she wants is war. the reason i don't get along with her is because she wants to invade every damn country that she looked at. she's a dope like her father is a dope. >> reporter: alex, he also talked at length about voting, noting that early voting started statewide right here in michigan today. we've been at this polling site
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that has been busy since it opened today. and the michigan secretary of state's office says that about 20% of actively registered voters statewide have already cast their ballots. that includes mail-in voting and/or early in-person voting. for the former president today, he's visiting another battleground state, pennsylvania, as he and vice president kamala harris continue toward these critical swing state voters november 5th. >> thank you for all that. right now we'll bring in msnbc political analyst, host of the podcast, in sync with alexi, along with the president of next gen of america. did you ladies, as i welcome you, hear what donald trump said there? what do you make of that? is it possible people will get as sick as i'm sure i am, and the two of you are, of hearing his grievances just blather on and on. what do you think? >> thank you for having me.
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i was shaking my head. that was the first time i heard him talking about that. it surprises me in the final days of an election where roe is on the ballot, reproductive rights are on the ballot, rather, he is attacking and demeaning women and reminding women of all the ways he talks about us and feels about us and will go out of his way to attack and belittle us. and i just think that is a curious strategy if you want women to vote for you. >> what do you think? i was shaking my head going, really? >> i mean, it's totally absurd. he doesn't even talk about the real core issues that list own base cares about. he's making up things that she hasn't said or done or supported. she's not a pro-war candidate by any means. yet, he is saying these things. he doesn't talk about, he also doesn't want to talk about at the end of the day. he said himself that he has concepts of a plan when it comes
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to the affordable care act. that he will support abortion even though he hasn't. he has no real support of the american people. he wants to address his own personal grievances. >> let's move past him and go right the event with beyonce. do you think these high-energy, star-powered rallies can help? do you think there's enough time to do that? >> yeah. i think certainly doing it this close to the election is smart. as up, to sort of revive that energy that her campaign had in the very beginning. it's also elevating celebrities with real star power. not the sort of random celebrities or rappers or people that trump is surrounding himself with and trying to get endorsements from. these are folks on the democratic side who have a base of their own. who have high favorables with men and women, and it's
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elevating black women at a time when, of course, we have a black woman running to be president. as she often talks about, black women are uniquely affected by many of these draconian abortion bans around the country. >> what about the young voters nationwide? a rally like this, does it energize them? we saw biden with record turnout in 2020. the question is, can, and do you expect harris to repeat that? >> yeah. i can tell from you being on the ground in north carolina and arizona and pennsylvania and michigan with next gen organizers across the country talking to young voters how excited they are about this election. especially young women that have always turned out in higher numbers than their male counterparts and are decidedly in favor and excited about the harris campaign. and i'm also excited to see the harris campaign now doing more events focused on young people. young people are so critical to the win that we need the
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harris-walz campaign to have. so putting the time investment into young people across the country we know will have a return. >> so harris campaigned in texas. trump is holding a rally in new york tomorrow. what do you make of them spending time in these nonbattleground states likely to go to their opponents, being so close to election day? is it about congress or is it about something else? >> certainly, it's a way to help those down ballot candidates. whether they're running for congress or, you know, something else. and important governor's races across the country, too. they're also going for fundraising in different ways. it can boost that in a way to make a pitch about where they're going. certainly, they're not going there thinking they will turn those states to their opposite side, or to their side, rather. i think bits helping those high profile senate races like colin allred in texas who is, of course, going up against ted
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cruz. new york has a lot of crucial house races that democrats will need to secure if they want control of that claim better, which as you both know, is incredibly important for certifying the election if it is contested in the same way it was last time. i think it is all about those down ballot races. >> i think there are seven races being closely watched in new york. so a poll shows harris leads trump among list hispanic voters in all battleground states. there's been concern about trump peeling away some hispanic support. are you feeling optimistic about harris's chances with this group now? and does it say anything about her odds overall? >> look, i think there's a portion of the latino electorate that has been up for grabs and increasingly up for grabs. i'm glad to see the harris campaign come out with their plan for latino men, talking about how they'll create millions of good jobs, make sure that there's affordable housing for the latino community. latino voters, especially in arizona, nevada, and
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pennsylvania, people may not be aware that they are critical for democrats to win. so we're seeing lots of phone banking. i'm glad i will be doing a spanish language phone banking this week calling into michigan and pennsylvania to latino voters as well. so the time and effort is really critical. latino voters cannot be taken for granted by either political party. so i'm glad to see the harris-walz campaign fully invested. >> lars putting the issue of reproductive rights front and center. nbc polling suggests it is one of the, if not the top issue motivating voters. here's part of a new harris ad. >> i'm the one that got rid of roe v. wade. >> you believe in punishment for abortion. >> there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman. >> yeah. there has to be some form of punishment. >> women will be happy, healthy, confident and free.
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>> will this drive voters to the polls? will democrats overdeliver expectations like they did in 2022? or with trump on the ballot, can you not compare these elections? >> we've seen that abortion is an incredibly visceral and real issue for a lot of people. we've seen how harris is now making her pitch explicitly to men and having more male messengers step up and talk about situations they've had with their wives or partners or people in their lives. this is not just a so-called women's issue. it is an issue that affects everyone. it is an economic issue, a family issue. and when these adds come up, which they've been consistent since roe was overturned, they remind people of the human faces and the human lives attached to these policy ies which can otherwise be abstract or become an arguing game. i think it would be incredibly difficult to say you don't know
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do you know what they say? their mental institutions are being emptied out. their jails are being emptied out. >> trump using a new phrase yesterday to talk about immigration and undocumented migrants during his visit to texas. back with me now, all right, you first. what kind of effect do words like that have on immigrants living in the u.s.? or anyone who thinks of america positively or is a welcoming country. >> i mean, it's absolutely absurd and racist. donald trump has blamed immigrants during his campaign and since he stopped political office for every single thing from housing to crime to lost pets. and he does this because he has no real plans to address what americans care about. we can build an immigration system that protects american-born workers and immigrant workers. he has no self-interest in pushing forward those policies.
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look, escape goating immigrants, it's tired and old as the ku klux klan and he's using the same old play book to divide our country. and i will say, make many, many people who are not even undocumented fearful in our communities and open to assault and hate crimes. >> i want to get to a hot button issue here. the "washington post" announced it will not make an announcement in the presidential race this year for the first time since 1976. it will not endorse in future ones either. so reporters from the paper published articles saying an endorsement for harris had been written. but the payment's owner, amazon founder jeff bezos, made the decision to stop the endorsement. we are also learning that trump met with leaders from bezos' aerospace company yesterday. you used to be an opinions editor for the post. what do you make of this and what motivated it? >> yeah. it's a crazy story. media companies need better pr
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teams, first and foremost. secondly, i have great respect for the "washington post" opinions department, the editorial board, david shipley runs the department and is so wonderful and lovely. i think this story really should call into question whether or not jeff bezos should own the "washington post." whether or not he is even up for the job. whether or not he respects the job of journalist to the degree that is necessary in these trying times. whether he is able to manage the "washington post" and not view it as a conflict of interest with other entities that he owns or has stake in. when we see photos and learn that donald trump is meeting with executives from blue origin, that certainly raises eyebrows as to whether or not jeff bezos was motivated not to endorse this time around, not to allow the opinion department to do what it has done for decades in fear of hurting donald trump's feelings and losing out on some sort of business deal in the future, which by the way, it is all hypothetical worries.
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donald trump hasn't been elected. nothing is happening. it's a bizarre decision. but again, i think it screams the facts. when you look at the "l.a. times" that maybe billionaires shouldn't be the ones owning these newspapers. >> a lot of questions about that. that's for sure. moving to you, harris said her team is prepared for trump to prematurely declare victory. you know trump will challenge the results if he loses. what are the concerns about election night and there after? >> look, i think organizations like ours and many across the country, election officials are preparing and also afraid of political violence. we know that's not just something that trump, he's proven that he's willing to use political violence to try to hold office. they are going to declare victory. our job is to make sure that your viewers, people in our organizations and that follow us, they know we're going to have to wait until there are real election results. that no one should believe what
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comes out of the donald trump campaign. we need to fight and make sure all the votes are counted appropriately and accordingly by law. that ultimately, if there are challenges, they can go through the courts. and that the courts will make the final decision. not donald trump. >> quickly to you, can democrats capitalize this? can they remind viewers of what happened in 2020? >> oh, yeah. harris is set to give a big speech. her closing remarks, so to speak, at the ellipse, the site where donald trump told his supporters to march on down to the capitol. it would be wild and he would meet them down there to riot and rally. obviously, he didn't follow them. it is a stark reminder of two different leaders in the same place. how they can use their supporters to their advantage, or you know, to incite political violence. >> i love talking with both of you. come see me again. thank you. next, a cringe moment for the gop in north carolina. hey little bear bear. ♪ ♪
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new today, freedom caucus chair republican congressman andy harris trying to walk back comments he made this week when he said north carolina should consider allocating their electors to donald trump before ballots are counted. >> have you thought about, and why aren't you calling on the state legislatures in the entire country to just go ahead and convene on november 5th to allocate their own state's electors. at a minimum in north carolina, new hampshire, nebraska, arizona, georgia, and wisconsin, so that those states guarantee that no illegal votes, no illegal drop boxes, no illegal signature nonverification going on. >> yeah. harris says these comments were taken out of contexas he said this should be a hypothetical
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podcast host should have asked trump in their conversation yesterday. joining us to break down the hypothetical comments, we have deborah ross. thank you for joining me. i know you reacted on x saying yesterday, extreme republicans are already scheming behind closed doors and this is unamerican. this was before the news yesterday that the federal court ruled mississippi mail-in ballots received after election day should not count, though no injunction has been issued in that state. so any ruling likely will not affect this particular election. it could the next one. can congressman harris's comments truly be taken as theoretical? hypothetical? >> well, it sounded to me like it was a call to action and completely unamerican. and two of our republican congress people, including one in the freedom caucus have said that he was completely off base
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and wrong. but just the fact that he is putting that out there, fomenting this kind of insurrectionist thought is just unamerican, wrong, and a threat to our democracy. >> so let's take a look at early voting in your state. it has been underway for two weeks now. a little over. can you get a sense based on location or any other variables which way 2.5 million early votes are leaning so far? >> i can tell you, we've had reports, both parties have had robust early voting. i have worked more than half a dozen early voting sites including one today. what i can tell you is, more women than men are voting. and it is very clear that they are doing this because they want to protect their reproductive rights.
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and we've also seen very strong early voting in the western part of the state. actually, even stronger than some other counties. the only thing we can tell you right now is that more women than men are voting. and that is because they know what is at stake. >> i have to tell you, kudos to those folks in the hurricane-ravaged part of your state. meantime, the latest bloomberg morning poll gives donald trump a lead of about a point. very much within the margin of error. >> the deciding factor will be our mouth. no question. i launched a canvas today. i launched one with dr. jill biden yesterday. we voted in 2020 about 75% of people voted.
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and we are ahead of where we were in 2020. so whoever turns out their people is going to win on election day. it's that tight. but the turnout operation is really moving. there's so much excitement, enthusiasm. we had 100 people today in a park in the suburban area fired up and ready to go knock doors. >> how about democratic governor roy cooper? has he been a factor keeping the count so close? >> well, democratic governor roy cooper deserves the great -- the thanks and all the gratitude of the people of north carolina. he has been at the ready for hurricane helene, for the democratic party, for running our state in an amazing way. i don't know if the man ever sleeps but he was with, i know,
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former president obama last night. he was also with the first lady helping distribute supplies and goods to people in western north carolina. he is everywhere and he's a force of nature. we're so lucky that he's our governor during this perilous time. >> can you expand on the challenges that both campaigns and election officials are facing with the western part of the state still recovering from hurricane helene? has there been any notable disruption to the early vote so far? you mentioned how proud you were of people getting out. is it happening in the western part of the state as well? >> yes. according to yesterday's report, it's actually slightly better, the turnout for the early vote in the western part of the state in a bipartisan way, both the board of elections and the legislature opened up on many early voting sites. as a matter of fact, the legislature just this week added
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two and have funded early voting and have made it easier for people in the west to do mail-in ballots, and have even waived voter i.d. requirements. we're having voter i.d. this time in a way that we never have. but they're waiving some of those requirements in the western part of the state. and people are taking advantage of voting. they are going to have to continue this, however, all the way through election day. that may be a little more difficult because all those, you know, individual precincts will need to have a secure place and people will need to be able to get to them. i will say that the federal government and our governor, and the national guard have done an outstanding job doing everything in their power to get people as close to back to normal as possible. but there is so much that needs to be done in terms of
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infrastructure, water, many people are on well water, have septic systems. it will take long time for western north carolina to fully rebuild. i am with the west 100%. i have been supporting those efforts. and also, working to stem misinformation that hurts them and hurts their ability to recover. >> congresswoman, i'm so glad to hear all of that. we send our thoughts and prayers to folks there. we're so glad they're making the effort and the ability to get out there and vote. it is a remarkable accomplishment considering what north carolina has gone through. thank you. so for your time. we'll see you again. meantime, this race is neck in neck. a lot of are you nervous. my next guest is not. he has two incredibly optimistic things to say about the race. you'll hear from him next. ce you'll hear from him next. t 2: d ! dad! dad, we missed you! daddy, hi! subject 3: goodness!
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new today, donald trump making the claim kamala harris is more dangerous than foreign adversaries. appearing on joe rogan's podcast which has over 15 million followers, he again used the term, the enemy from within to refer to his political opponents who he said was a bigger threat than north korean leader kim jong-un. joining me now, stewart stevens. welcome. it's nice to see you again. this week you said that kamala harris will win fairly and comfortably and by a larger margin than biden did in 2020.
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you also said, the harris campaign is running what we're probably going to look back at as the best presidential campaign ever run. so your confidence is welcome to the harris camp, i'm sure. what is behind it? polls suggest this race is a toss-up. >> yeah, you know, i think there's a basic structure to this race that has been true for some time. it's very consistent. about 47% of the country, that are open to maga. 53% that's not. the goal of the harris campaign has been to coalesce as much of the 53% as they can. they wake up in a world today in which you have liz cheney and bernie sanders on the same side. they've done a pretty good job of that. and when you look at the difference in these polls, trump is always around 47. the difference is how much of that 53% is showing up in these polls? but you know, at this point, the talk about polls begins to be sort of beside the point because
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we have so many people voting. and polling samples, a couple thousand at most, and we have millions and millions of people voting which is a very big sample size. the striking thing about these votes, 38 million counted as of this morning, or 30 million cast. there is a gender gap of women are participating at 10 points higher than men. since 2004, the average has been 4 points in a presidential race. women participate more about 4%. right now, in early voting, it's 10%. that is very interesting. and i think if harris ends up winning this thing comfortably, i think a lot of polls might have missed it. i think this will be the reason. >> look, i'm going to say, if you're right and you're proven right by november 9, if the race has been settled by then and there's a definitive winner,
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please come back that day. you can take a victory lap. you can literally run around the studio if you want to join me. there has been democratic hand-wringing over young black men in particular slowly abandoning the democratic party. recent polling shows nearly 8 of 10 black voters say they will vote for harris. but it is down from biden's 90% in 2020. but you say the polls are wrong. why is that? >> look, what you're looking at at the 92 and 90 is what was the final vote? which sort of proves my point. i can't tell you how many republican races i did, very good pollsters, big races, which showed our guy getting 15, 18% of the black vote. right up until the election. but i can tell you how many times it happened. never. we were down there at 8%, 9%. in 2020, trump got about 13% of
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african american males. but he lost african-american women like 95-5. it averages out, the percent that he got. you have a race like this, it is very stable. i have a lot of sympathy when you have to write about this every five hours. you need to look for something. but 1964, goldwater got 7%. 2020, a black vote. trump got 8%. that's 1 point every 56 years. i think we can pretty well look at that and say it's a baseline that won't shockingly change. which means when you look at these polls, you need to model them out to what will this look like when she's getting 90% of the black vote? because that's what she'll get. >> so in the final pitches to voters, harris is very much leaning hard entire warnings that trump is a threat to democracy. the trump's campaign closing argument is a harris broke it.
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trump will fix it. is this the right closing message for harris? has the trump campaign come up with an effective strategy to run up against her in the final days? it doesn't even matter to voters that harris is not the current president. >> yeah. i really don't know what the closing argument is. there wasn't a poll or a pollster or a strategist that told him to go out and talk about arnold palmer's penis. or to say what americans want to larry about is having military tribunals for some of our great generals and political opponents of donald trump. so you know, i think one of the key goals for the harris campaign here is to have a balance between addressing subjects, inflation, housing, all of these things. not to allow it to become normalized so they would be dealing with it like romney-obama. and i think she's hit a very good balance between that. this is unlike any other race in american history.
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75% of republicans believe that the guy who is in the white house stole the white house. and i think that has a big impact on all the job approval numbers. you think that biden stole the white house, what can you say to the person making a favorable impression of biden? what about the infrastructure act, baby? i know you think he stole the white house. so i think the harris campaign is very -- they seem like they have composure to me. they know what they're doing. i think the rally they had yesterday in houston was extraordinary. they'll have this big rally on the ellipse. and madison square garden is just a vanity thing. i don't know. the last ten days of a campaign doesn't seem to be a time to indulge. >> and i'm curious. despite what the campaign says, this is the focus, what we hear from donald trump is not what the focus is. rather, he calls america a garbage can of the world.
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he talks about its citizens as being vermin. how is that going to play, stuart, in the last ten days? >> it's much lower than harris's. we talk about undecided voters, there are undecided voters who actually vote, it is always driven by favorable by unfavorable ratios. if you have an unfavorable view of a candidate, you won't get up on election day and say i'll go vote for that person. you either won't vote or if you do vote, you'll leave it blank. unlike '16 where they had clinton and trump were pretty matching favorable and unfavorable. both were really bad. harris was about 10 to 12 points better than donald trump. and that's a key factor. in america, the most optimistic candidate almost always wins. the idea that we have a candidate who is running saying america is a third world country, a garbage country. i find this so anti-american
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tradition. it is just extraordinary. and i think it is one of the reasons these republicans in senate races are not doing as well as they should. what kind of message is that? you don't see them going out and echoing trump's message which is very unusual in a presidential race. there is no national message that republicans are presenting here. so i don't know. the question you always ask yourself in a campaign is, would you rather be my campaign or the other campaign? and were it me, i would rather be the harris campaign. >> i have to say, donald trump is a far cry from the standard bearer, ronald reagan with his message, versus that which ronald reagan delivered. you're welcome to come to a victory lap. let's see what happens. all right, my friend. >> it won't be about me. it will be about the campaign harris has run. what we know about israel's strike on iran and why what it hit or didn't hit is so telling.
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breaking news in the middle east where israel says it has completed retaliatory strikes in iran. the u.s. was warned in advance of those strikes which targeted military strikes. president biden said he hopes this is the end of escalated fighting between the two countries. how likely is that the case? >> reporter: we don't know exactly. this is still a really dangerous moment for the entire middle east. it seems like we're seeing from all the different countries, especially the arab part, that they're condemning these attacks. there is a lot of anger. i think it is fair to say a lot of people are breathing a sigh of relief. what we saw from the israelis last night was what looked like a pretty calibrated attack meant to both show some sort of deterrence to appease some of the belligerent voices inside
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israel who wanted to see the iranians put on notice for the missiles they fired in the beginning of october at israel. but at the same time, it looked like it offered something of a convenient off-ramp, a face-saving method of basically saying, we'll do the symbolic strike that is not going to hit nuclear targets or major economic targets like oil installations. at the same time, sticking to military targets like anti-missile defense systems and missile production facilities. and it wouldn't elicit some sort of iranian response. it has nearly been 24 hours since the strikes and it looks like so far, this could be over. that's what we're hearing from american officials, too. this is from vice president kamala harris in michigan. >> what i can say is that it is a consensus among leaders in the region and certainly it is the strong perspective of the united states that there must be de-escalation and not an
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escalation of activity in that region. >> i feel very strongly. we as the the united states feel very strongly that iran must stop what it is doing in terms of the threat that it presents to the region. and we will always defend israel against any attacks by iran in that way. >> reporter: so the danger here was, alex, if the israelis had fired something that was too strong, too destructive against the iranians, the iranians would respond and this would all lead to a full-on region-wide war. so far it looks like the worst possible effects here have been averted. >> okay. matt bradley. we'll end it there. a flood is coming but you won't hear any rushing water. next, the calculated well-funded push to calculate the big lie 2.0. that sore throat. vapocool drops? it's sore throat relief with a rush of vicks vapors. ♪ vapocooooool ♪ whoa.
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new reporting from nbc news reveals the extent to which some conservative activists are pushing and pursuing claim of noncitizens voting this election. former president trump echoing these false claims, both online and on the campaign trail despite evidence proving the extreme rarity of noncitizen voting. joining us now to discuss her new reporting on, this we have nbc news. it is illegal for anyone who is not a citizen to vote in federal u.s. elections. and it is beyond rare for it to even occur.
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so how have these activists become so influential and why is this message spread so effectively among republicans? >> this is a story of a narrative. and the conspiracy theory works like this. i don't think we explain it enough. it's not just that noncitizens are voting. it is that democrats and globalists and the elite are engineering an immigrant invasion, getting all these noncitizens to register and vote en masse in a way that somehow will rig the election for harris. and it is effective because we have a long, long history of anti-immigrant sentiment in this country. we have a long history of demagogues tapping into that. and it is hard to prove that something isn't happening. there have been studies upon studies that show this. but it is a good conspiracy theory trick to say something is happening and then fact checkers go, it's not. but you know, it really took hold in this cycle because of a
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woman. she considered herself a voter integrity champion. she's been beating this donald trump since the tea party days. it was sort of a niche thing. and trump's insistence that the elections were insecure, it really turned her pet project of noncitizens voting and elections being insecure and mass voter fraud under the bed. it became a mainstream republican endeavor. so mitchell was on that call with brad raffensperger in georgia where trump said, find me 11 something thousand votes. and she wasn't indicted like others were but she was forced to resign from her washington, d.c. law firm. she really dug in on this. and she started these networks. one is called the election integrity network. one is called the only citizens vote coalition. and she decided to spend the next couple years building what she called a neighborhood watch that were trying to find these
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pockets of noncitizens. i've been spending time. i got a lot of their leaked videos of their secret meetings. i've been watching these individuals. and it's like being in a fever dream. these thousands of activists are sharing all this manufactured evidence from groups like the heritage foundation and looking at voter rolls. they're plotting for ways to stop something that is not happening. so in the meantime, talking about the power of this narrative, actual voters are being purged from the rolls with this elusive group of noncitizens. the latino groups i spoke to are really afraid of the intimidation and possible threats. quickly, everyone, that will do it for me. i was you tomorrow at 1:00

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