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being called a fascist, a liberal once avoided is now being embraced in the political fight for president. is it too little too late? chair of the house freedom caucus has a wild scheme to get north carolina electoral votes before a ballot is cast. is the war rages on in the middle east trump is gaining traction with a group of voters who once backed president biden, can present vice president harris win them back to mark i am ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. democrats are finally getting comfortable with the f- word days before the election . surrogates are calling donald trump a fascist. take a look. >> it is clear from john kelly's words that donald trump is someone who i "certainly falls into the general definition of fascist.

" >> do you think donald trump is a fascist? >> yes i do. >> i know you've said before that recently you said that trump uses blatantly fascist rhetoric. do you agree with john kelly, with vice president harris, that donald trump does meet the definition of a fascist? >> you know, caitlin, i do-- expect to be clear when >> yes. he said himself. the former president said he is going to be a dictator on day one. >> that started after two jaw- dropping interviews this week with trump's former chief of staff and four star general john kelly. here's how kelly talking to the new york times described him. >> caller: he commented more than once that you know, hitler did some good things, too, and of course if you know history,

i think he's lacking that, but if you know what hitler was all about you would be pretty hard to make an argument he did anything good. he is certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators, he has said that. um-- so he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure. >> kelly also confirmed to the atlantic that trump once asked him, why can't you be like the german generals when he responded shirley you can't mean hitler's generals. trump doubled down and said he was referring to his nazi generals. there was similar reporting on this in 2022, but kelly has publicly gone on the record about this exchange, and it may have come at just the right time for democrats who have for some time been tiptoeing around calling trump the fascist word for many years. no longer. >> this man is the nominee of

the party of lincoln. we are watching it become the party of trump. and that's not just a huge loss for our democracy, it is a threat to it. >> you asked before, what is the greatest national threat to the security of the united states can mark it's donald trump. >> i believe the president is literally an existential threat to america. >> to the fall of 2022 over a year after trump incited an insurrection to start calling his philosophy semi-fascism, again, not quite there. but, now, 13 of trump's former officials, people who worked under him for years, are also lifelong republicans, have signed an open letter backing up john kelly's statement that donald trump is a fascist.

the ex-president for his part has spent the last few days swinging in every direction. in a post untruth social he called kelly a lowlife suffering from trump derangement syndrome hatred. an accused kamala harris of calling him hitler which she never did. house speaker mike johnson and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell called out harris for dangerous rhetoric. they added labeling a political opponent as a fascist risks inviting yet another would-be assassin to try and robbing voters of their choice before election day. as i said, that's pretty rich considering their presidential candidate, donald trump, said this on joe rogan's podcast literally a few hours later. >> and don't underestimate north-- north korea-- if you

take a look at north korea they, i was there-- i mean i was with kim jong un i had a great relationship i got to know him very well we had no trouble with him. we have a bigger problem in my opinion with "the enemy from within," and it drives him crazy when i use that term, but we have an enemy from within we have people that are really bad people. >> now say you are someone in trump-world, and you are fending off that democratic attack line. what is your defense against everything else he has said and done just this week to mark what about when trump called the usa a garbage can for the world when referring to immigrants pouring into this country? when he would fire special counsel jack smith in two seconds in a second term? and what about when he posted what he called a cease-and- desist letter x warning people that who have already cheated in an election that hasn't happened yet will be given long prison sentences when he becomes president? but, democrats are finally

claiming the f-word against donald trump even though the evidence has been in plain sight for years. now the question is, is it too little too late? will enough americans agree in nine days to keep him as far as away from our democracy as possible? ruth, professor of history, author of strong men mussolini to the president, barbara f walter usc-san diego, author of how civil war start and how to stop them, and to when political analyst michelle goldberg, also columnist at the new york times. it's good to have you with us. ruth, i'll start with you. you mentioned the way trump makes himself a victim is actually part of his authoritarian strategy, it is why we see his devout allies like johnson and mitch mcconnell defending him even though donald trump has lashed out against democrats calling them communists calling them socialists calling them the enemy within. all of these labels somehow

never at all elicited a response from mitch mcconnell and mike johnson to say hey former president trump, tone down that rhetoric. >> yeah, because being a victim is part of the fascist playbook from the beginning, and in the 1920s when hitler was trying to get to power and was banned for speaking publicly, because it was hate speech, the nazi party showed a photo with his mouth taped shut he can speak freely. this is important for followers, because it allows them to feel he can't possibly be serious about his aggression um-- but it's part of the fascist playbook, and it's been like that for 100 years. >> barbara, as i outlined there, donald trump has been in our political landscape now for

almost a decade, since 2015 as a candidate. what do you make of democrats and former trump officials now coming together to call him a fascist, and even signing their name to that label? john kelly served donald trump. he's had multiple opportunities when he was in office since leaving office to come out and use that term to reveal what he knew about trump. and it's only in this final stretch of this race has he decided to come out and say this. >> yeah, so the democrats are speaking out now, because these important generals, especially john kelly, has finally spoken out. another key adviser of trump, all three of whom were decorated generals, and they have all spoken out against trump's authoritarian tendencies. the reason they've spoken out now, is because trump did

something that scares the but jesus out of the military. he said recently he would use the military against american citizens. imagine that! that means if you are part of the military, and the president, the commander in chief is you the order to arrest innocent american citizens, to let's say take liz cheney from her home at night go and get an arrest-- um-- other people who have opposed you, and suddenly they disappear at night, or god help you if there are peaceful protests and resistance, and the president gives the order to shoot. then you are in a terrible position. so, i think what trump recently did, this notion that he would use him and he could use, which constitutionally he's not allowed to do, to use the military against his opponents and people he deems a threat

because they are protesting is a step that is way too far. and that is when i feel kelly, and mathis and everybody had to speak out. >> michelle, 49% of the american electorate believes that trump is a fascist according to the abc ipsos polling . do you think americans across the political spectrum have also been skittish about calling him the f-word, because perhaps they don't know how that could even emerge in an american democracy and having a political figure who is a fascist suddenly emerge on the scene as something that we think is antithetical to our political culture? >> i don't think that most democrats have a hard time accepting that donald trump is a fascist, and january 6th with

its armed mobs, with its attempts to overturn an election that was legitimate is an obvious combination of donald trump's rhetoric, his contempt for the law, for democracy, his contempt for americans who oppose him, that he has demonstrated since he stepped onto the scene. i think part of the problem is that people have become over the last nine years, they have become somewhat numb and complacent, and frankly part of that is the fault of men like john kelly, like jim mattis, people who didn't speak out at the time. people now have this impression well i mean don't get me wrong, donald trump office presidency was very very bad. but people have a somewhat rosy view of it, and they don't imagine he will do things in a second presidency that he didn't do in his first one. what you have are the people

who stopped him from doing those things saying don't rely on that assumption, saying there is not going to be anyone to restrain him now. i think the very tricky thing is to try and get across the message to people who are polarized, traumatized, numb, it's not just that trump is a fascist, but what that actually means, right? as barbara said donald trump has been clear he wants to set up a network of internment camp and sees millions of people and put them in those camps. and when people come out to protest as they did in his first term and as they will again, he wants to be able to turn the army on them. and i just think people need to think really hard about what that actually looks like. >> lay that out for us, ruth. take michelle's point to its logical conclusion in a second trump presidency.

when you do not have adults in the room or somebody checking trump's worst impulses, or even if our institutions don't have the guardrails that can prevent him from implementing his vision for america. >> so you know the core of authoritarianism and fascism was the first stage along with early communism is that the executive branch overwhelms the branches, so, and the leader has a personal power, and he becomes untouchable. and it's a measure of how radicalized our supreme court is that they gave the president, the figure of the president immunity, which is something many authoritarians have to work very hard to get over years. they feel they are untouchable. he has already said what will happen as others have commented. he will go after his political opponents, the whole discourse of the enemy within is straight from fascism as well as communism.

he's also taking much from communism, stalin, hitler, and what he wants to do with his deportation, 10-15 million people, let me just say that this is like the whole population of sweden or belgium. this is a population of restructuring of america through population engineering that's on the scale of old- school dictators. it is staggering. and then of course project 2025 is ready with politicized civil servants, so you don't have a guardrail, they have already been vetted for loyalty, and everything rotates around loyalty to the leader, the party line, the personality cult. and this has been set up by the gop for some time, and then it would go into action. it's terrifying, it's like seeing my book come to life with what is planned and what he is saying he is going to do. >> it's a terrifying and frightening thought, and here we are, 10 days from the

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retaliation for israel's assassination of key hamas and hezbollah leaders. multiple arab nations condemned the strikes with jordan calling them a dangerous escalation. vice president kamala harris reaffirmed u.s. support for israel's right to self-defense while urging regional de- escalation. senior biden official told nbc news this should be the end of the direct military exchange between israel and iran for joining me now is international crisis group iran project director. ali, it's good to have you on the show. your thoughts to the biden administration's response to last night's attacks on iran. is this the full extent of israel's actions, and what are the odds iran will retaliate? >> it's good to be with you, ayman. look, there's plenty to blame the biden a demonstration for, but i think in this case they have managed to hold israel back and limit the scale and scope of its retaliation against iran. on the lower range of options

that were available which provides an offramp to draw the line under this -for-tat and call for today. i think the biden administration did a lot of diplomacy behind the scenes and put a lot of pressure on israel. but, of course we are not out of the woods yet, and as the underlying cause of the extensions which is the war in gaza and the conflict in lebanon continue iran and israel could once again find themselves on a collision course. >> you bring up a good point about the administration's attempt to rein in israel, not to go after oil and nuclear facilities, but given israel's history of disregarding u.s. calls for de-escalation in gaza and lebanon, are you at all concerned that israel may not actually remain restrained and

that in iran retaliates? >> i am concerned. the church are very remains quite escalade tory. the iranians witnessed what happened in lebanon hezbollah in step-by-step demonstration if they straight weakness now it will only encourage israel to once again come after in the region or at home, so i'm not sure 100% that they are persuaded that they should not respond or whether they are waiting to see what happens in the u.s. elections and then respond afterwards. but, the dilemma for them is

that obviously they don't have escalation domination here. probably in this attack israel has significantly degraded iranian air defense systems, so nuclear sites would be more vulnerable in a potential future attack. they risk losing face both in how they are perceived within their network of allies in the region and also at home within the political elite. >> let me ask about the second part about how this is playing out domestically in iran. it's been about 24 hours, so very early to assess what reverberations this might have, but given the fact that you have to some extent very humiliating what is believed to be israeli attacks inside iran,

the ability of israel to kill hassan nasrallah in lebanon. how might they seize on that? >> look iran is a country of 90 million. there is a range of views about the regime, of israel, some would welcome any kind of attack at undermining the islamic republic's authority, but the regime's core constituency also gets energized as a result of the security threats risks that it takes including directly attacking israel, and then most of the population i believe are kind of in between, torn between these two extreme camps and of course seeing what happened in gaza and in lebanon

in terms of destruction and loss of life, and they don't want to see that happening to their own country, and remember iran is one of the ancient nations of the world. there is a rallying around the flag effect that is likely to happen. i think the biggest risk is that the red lines claim to tack on each other's territory have already been crossed, and those redlines have turned pink, and new redlines remain nebulous, and in that space there is plenty of space for miscalculation. >> ali, thank you so much for joining with your insight analysis. chair of the house freedom of caucus is caught saying it should just of its electors to donald trump. more on that and protecting

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the chair of the house freedom caucus is facing backlash for suggesting north carolina might as well award its electors to donald trump before votes are even counted. take a listen. >> statistically say hey you know you just enfranchise 25 counties you know what that vote probably would have been which would be if i were in the legislation enough to go yeah, we've got enough to be in the legislature we can-- >> yeah that was congressman andy harris of maryland speaking at a local republican dinner in his home state. he goes on to say it would look like a power grab at other states, but north killinger would be an exception, because people in those counties would vote for trump if they weren't impacted by hurricane helene and harris has since claimed his comments were taken out of context. fearmonger based on noncitizen

voting. it will be one of eight states asking to ban noncitizens from voting. why north carolinians being asked to weigh in on something already enforced by u.s. and state law especially when instances of undocumented immigrants voting illegally and elections are extremely rare? the answer is simple, it's another way to so distrust in our democracy in case donald trump loses this time by pinning the blame on immigrants and i'm joined by north carolina secretary of state democrat elaine marshall. secretary marshall, thank you so much for making time to join us. your reaction to congressman harris essentially saying north carolina awarding electorates to trump would be aboveboard, because we all know how they would have voted in the first place. your response to that? >> ayman, that is just plainly bs, we would say here in north

carolina. that would disenfranchise about 6 million voters if that were to take place. there are about 1 million maybe more out of the 7.7 in north carolina that are in western north carolina, and it's just a ludicrous idea that many people would be enfranchised by this theoretical, his theory of the thing. and let me tell you, western north carolina has had some bad times, but western north carolina are survivors. the election has been going on now. they originally thought they would have 80 early vote sites after the hurricane, turned out to be 75. but here's what's going on. schools are back in session. they started october 15th. by the time election day comes around every last one of those 25 counties, schools will be in session. appalachian state university had a home football game. folks are getting back to

normal under difficult circumstances, but they are getting back to normal, including the ability to vote. >> zero in on that, because that's the crux of it right there, they are using this natural disaster, using the community challenges there to generate this fear even further. folks are still reeling from the impact of the hurricane as you noted, but tell us about the situation on the ground as it pertains to the actual polling stations that are there. we know some 2.5 million voters have already cast their ballots, but you anticipate by election day all operations will be running as normally as possible. >> yes sir, that's exactly the case. our state board of elections has prepared for this. we have diligent workers. we have people that are very committed to running free and fair elections here in north carolina, security included, so we are ready for it notwithstanding the adversity of the hurricane, but we are up and running. >> i want to turn to this

ballot initiative on noncitizen voting, we are seeing it play out in multiple places across the country. aclu is urging voters to vote no as a way to reject the fear mongering and hateful rhetoric that gave rise to this ballot measure. has this ballot measure caused more confusion for voters especially naturalized citizens? what can you tell us about that? >> the folks who have read it have really scratched their head. it is a poorly-written amendment used to drum up traffic and fear, and if you read it it says only 18-year- olds who are citizens can vote, that's what it really says. it is a dachshund effort to get something that was interestingly enough we is to have a constitutional

interpretation committee, which the secretary of state chair, the attorney general, the legislating services officer was on, they abolished that, because in the past we have been able to see some of the trickery they have tried to create through proposed constitutional amendments, and they just, people who know the law understand the constitution and can interpret to the public what it's supposed to say. they have been very unhappy with us, so they abolished it. there is no filter for that legislation before, they wrote the way it's on the ballot, they write it at the legislature, and it's on there, and people that really read it are scratching their head. for that reason alone they should vote no. >> there is new reporting on poll watchers including in lee county were a republican party chairs at "the more assertive and aggressive you are in watching and reporting the better the quality of the election." um-- kinds of safeguards are

in place throughout your state to protect poll workers, and that kind of language, what do you think is behind it? >> well they are trying to intimidate voters, they are trying to intimidate poll workers. mr. womack has a history of that. north carolina did loosen the law to allow certain poll watching to happen that did not before. these poll watchers can go around within the area, they cannot interfere with the person, and they are not supposed to be looking at the person's ballot, but the reason they have opened this door up for more poll watchers there is to be able to whether it is real or not point out something they think is wrong with a certain person's vote. they've tried to complicate the election process in the absentee mail-in ballots with things they put on the outside envelope or they are just trying to create a bunch of gotcha moments, opportunities for them to pick an issue with something they think is improper. we have a talented board of elections that we have a

talented board of investigators there. in the past when we've had some election irregularities they certainly went from a legal undocumented people voting. maybe we had one or two or three. in many states it's only a handful. when our voters people would say would you like to vote and don't explain it or go to rallies to get people to register it's logical inadvertently somebody that's not a citizen is not going to read the paperwork, because they are asked that question on the registration paperwork, and they are going to do it out of a desire to vote. >> thank you so much for your time and the vigilance your state is pursuing in all of this. thank you very much. next up, how trump is making inroads with arab and muslim voters despite his history of bigoted remarks toward them.

my panel reacted to donald trump's off the rails podcast interview with joe rogan. you don't want to miss that. t.

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nearly 30% of american muslim voters are backing harris putting her neck and neck with green party candidate jill stein. in a separate survey of arab american voters trump edges out harris by 2%. many are also planning to sit this election out, and earlier today the mayor of dearborn heights, a city with a large arab population endorsed trump at a rally. >> one of the things i have never seen the devastation that we are seeing right now you know when president trump was president there was peace we didn't have any issues there was no wars he didn't create wars he was trying to withdraw our troops. >> now all of this is in stark contrast to the overwhelming support resident biden enjoyed from this community back in 2020. it's also pretty surprising when you consider trump's record with muslim and arab americans. during his first term trump banned immigration from several muslim majority countries and make comments about islam hating america, then he repeatedly attacked arab and muslim lawmakers like ilhan

omar. arabs celebrating the 9/11 terrorist attacks. that he could inherit he moved the u.s. israel to jerusalem he also recognized israel's illegal annexation of the golan heights he said benjamin netanyahu indicted by the international court of justice is doing a good job and claimed that biden was holding netanyahu back and promised to deport pro-palestinian protesters all while using the word palestinian as a slur. so, what's happened over the past few years? how did we actually get here? washington post writes in my conversations with arabs and muslims across the country the mood has become dark and despairing. they see how the democratic party has ignored the preferences of its own members 77% of whom believe the

united states should not send weapons to israel. leading democrats acknowledge the devastation inflicted on gaza, but in the same breath appear unwilling to do anything about it. although harris has been more effective at expressing some empathy for palestinian civilians she has also signaled she will not break with the actual policies of president biden on lebanon and gaza. listen to how she handled this question about this issue during a cnn town hall earlier this week. >> what do you say to voters who are thinking about supporting a third-party candidate or staying on the couch and not voting at all, because of this issue? >> listen, i am not going to deny the strong feelings that people have. i don't know that anyone who has seen the images um-- who would not have strong feelings about what is happened, much less those who have relatives who have died and been killed,

and i know people and have talked with people. so i appreciate them, but i also do know that for many people who care about this issue they also care about bringing down the price of groceries. they also care about our democracy and not having a president of the united states who admires dictators and is a fascist. >> other activists say it's not even about policy, some mistakes from the party were largely symbolic and simply avoidable, like democrats choosing not to give a speaking slot to even one palestinian american politician at the dnc or the harris campaign kicking out a prominent muslim american democrat out of an event in the skin just this week. now trump is filling that vacuum by making his own symbolic gestures to court arab and muslim voters especially in michigan, where he and harris are deadlocked. he's talking about how much he loves arabs on saudi tv.

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we have got just 10 days left in one of the most consequential elections of our lifetime. >> before the break we talked about kamala harris struggling with arab and muslim voters, and donald trump making some inroads with this unity. now just days before the election this traditionally democratic block is divided on who to vote for, or if they should vote at all. msnbc daily connell nest columnist economic and social services in michigan. it's great to have both of you with us. let me play for you what donald trump said about muslim voters earlier today. watch. >> muslims are joining our cause in larger numbers than ever before, and now the most wonderful thing is happening, we are winning overwhelming support from the muslim and arab voters right here in michigan, can you believe it?

i'm going to ask all of them if i could all of my friends to come up from the arab and muslim part of michigan-- and, i would like to give them a big hand, because they are going to vote for us and help us win. >> your reaction to that. first of all you and i are old enough to remember when donald trump said, about muslims he said muslims hate america, now he's celebrating these muslim americans that he brought up on stage saying he's going to win michigan because of them. >> donald trump is even transactional in his bigotry. he understands they are an important voting bloc in michigan. donald trump also knows jared kushner got $2 billion from saudi arabia when he left office, and there were golf tournaments at trump's golf club by the saudi-backed tournaments where he made millions of dollars. so the point is for donald trump i don't know, the

audience is probably like muslims? i thought we were supposed to hate them. now it's like now we are supposed to like them now, wink- wink. i don't see in the polling that more muslims are supporting trump than in 2020. it's harris is losing 20%-30%, democrats got about 60% of the vote in michigan, she is losing about half of that right now which is concerning in a tight race. >> leaders have endorsed kamala harris while also calling on the biden administration to do more. i will start with trump's remarks today and what you have been hearing from voters in the skin. what are your thoughts about that display you just saw you there? >> well to someone who has something to gain at this moment but listen to what he said all of this time he called for a muslim ban and most

recently he said he would do it on day one. he has called for the deportation of 11 million immigrants hard-working people who contribute to the economy, and frankly many of them are muslims and arabs. he has consistently opposed a palestinian state. he has consistently called netanyahu to fight this through to the end, and he has consistently supported all of the other aggression in the middle east. now he is saying that the king of saudi arabia is his friend. well, he can hang out with the sultans and the kings. us working people, as arabs, us muslims, don't buy that. and tomorrow over a dozen major arab american leaders will call

on the biden administration to do more and hope that kamala harris will do more, but we know that the democratic party is the only party that we will make progress in, and that we can at least fight for peace. and so yes, we will support kamala harris. >> in washington post, the united states has armed and funded dictators that withhold rights to their people and wednesday of craddick administrations alike even the ones that were supposed to be better. barack obama was known to joke all i need in the middle east is a few smart autocrats i

think the criticism have is that neither party genuinely cares about the interest of arab americans. they take the votes of arab americans and muslim americans for granted, and they're counting on the fact as you laid out that the fear of the other guy is enough to drive you to vote for kamala harris, and that's why they don't need to make outreach to you. >> let's be blunt. before 2016 arab and muslims did not engage in politics the way they did. why did they get involved? because donald trump called for a muslim ban in this country treats no more than ever they re-involve us, now you have muslim americans to the state attorney general of minnesota they are more active we have become a bigger group now we are exerting our power lyrically, and we are not monolithic. so you will have this divide. but, going forward democrats will have to listen to us if they want the vote of the community that's meaningful to them, but to the point donner donald trump would be horrible for palestinians once the west

bank to be ethically cleansed of palestinian christians and muslims and wants trump to say yes to netanyahu because that's what he and his coalition wants to donald trump as president cuts off funding $20 million for hospitals for the state department and millions-- he was horrible and would be even worse for us. >> stick around, ahmed, thank you so much, we have run out of time but i look forward to continued this conversation with you before and after the selection. a new hour of ayman starts after this break . what you think kai? looks like he's chasing an ice cream truck. ice cream! he got his iphone 16 pro. the first iphone built for apple intelligence. cuz's holding it up like a baby lion. homie takes those t-mobile savings and calls it a day. respect. now at t-mobile.com, get the new iphone 16 pro on us. and families can save 20% every month versus the other big guys. mom where's my homework? mommy! hey hun - sometimes, you just need a moment.

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