tv Inside With Jen Psaki MSNBC October 27, 2024 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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we are in a moment now where 1939 is knocking loudly on the door and authoritarians always do the same thing. they tell you what they are going to do. they promise retribution and revenge. donald trump's statements right now, we just released an ad, playing all of donald trump's statements in the original german as we like to say. this guy is holding a rally tonight, that is reminiscent of a german -- the american movement in the 1930s, the american nazis party at madison square garden. is going to play the same tropes. is going to say the same words. if you think that is the future that he's doing for fun, or to sell it to the rubes, you are mistake it. that is his attempt, his of you rick wilson, cofounder of the lincoln project, and a former republican strategist. that does it for me. thank you for watching. inside with jen psaki begins now.
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we are just nine days out. the one and only michelle obama has some things to get off her chest. and kamala harris is trying to make the choice as clear as you possibly can. there is so much talk about it, and lucky for us, my first guest today is kamala harris campaign chair. she's in charge of winning this thing, and she has a dummy cable news interview since harris became the nominee. also today, were going to show you my day a following door knockers in battleground michigan where we talk to voters about what's really on their minds. and later, the daily shows jordan klepper is here with his latest reporting from maga land. which, as always, you just have to see to believe. it's that time of year. the political ads are wall-to- wall on tv. the candidates on their trailer during their absolute best punches on the campaign trail.
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for donald trump, that means the hours on joe rogan's podcast, making supporters weight literally hours for him at rallies and calling america a garbage can in the process. on the other hand, for kamala harris, that means a megawatt all-star lineup on the trail. this week, we saw barack obama and bruce springsteen in georgia, we saw beyonci in texas on friday night, and last night, we saw the singular force that is michelle obama. >> i hope you will forgive me if i'm a little frustrated that some of us are choosing to ignore donald trump's gross incompetence while asking to dabble us at every turn. i hope that you will forgive me if i am a little angry that we are in different to his erratic behavior, his obvious mental decline, his history as a convicted felon. a known slumlord. a predator
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found liable for sexual abuse. all of this while we pick apart her answers from interviews that he doesn't even have the courage to do. >> that was really the thing that got me there. that was michelle obama doing her absolute best to shake the country awake a little more than a week out from the election. and it's a strategy that tracks about what we are hearing from the candidate herself. while the campaign is closing out with a range of ads on the economy and reproductive rights and of course, turning the page, the vice president herself continues to deliver an incredibly start, incredibly sober closing warning about the threat of donald trump. >> imagine donald trump with no guardrails. he who would claim unchecked and extreme power if he is re- elected. he who has vowed he will be a dictator on day one. he who has said he wished he
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had generals like hitler's. who calls -- who calls americans who disagree with him the enemy from within. you know what that harkens back to? donald trump has even called for the, quote, termination of the constitution of the united states of america. and let us be very clear -- someone who suggests we should terminate the constitution of the united states should never again stand behind the seal of the president of the united states! never again! never again! never again! >> now that is not a message she is just conjuring up out of thin air.
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she is using trump's own words and echoing a warning that is coming from the people who know him best. people like john kelly, a four- star general who served as secretary of homeland security and his longest serving chief of staff. john kelly spoke out this week in his own words, and the harris campaign immediately put those words into a new ad. >> you think is a fascist? >> he certainly falls into the general definition of a fascist. all right, authoritarian, political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader. he admires people who are dictators. >> hitler did some good things, too. >> if he was left to his own devices, would he be a dictator if he did not people around him? >> i think you would love to be. >> was ugly as president, the authority is total. >> so what the harris campaign is doing is basically repeating
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the words of a decorated four star general who served under donald trump. it is not even the only one. lots of people that worked for trump in high-level national security positions have been sounding the alarm for month. we have heard versions of the same warnings over and over and over again. but these latest comments from kelly do seem to be breaking through in a way that the others have not. >> president trump is being called a fascist not only by kamala harris in her townhall meeting tonight, but by his former chief of staff. >> longest-serving chief of staff john kelly -- >> john kelly -- >> john kelly issued a warning. >> john kelly said the previous president praised and all filter and private. >> made admiring statements about hitler. >> he would praise adolf hitler, the nazi leader who orchestrated the murder of 16 million jews. >> john kelly said the former president but the definition of a fascist. >> he meets the definition of a
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fascist. >> the definition of a fascist. >> john kelly use the words fascist and dictator. he went on to say trump didn't understand the constitution. >> keep in mind, john kelly was a longest-serving chief of staff for donald trump. >> and the trump campaign is not happy. >> so that is what millions of americans heard on their local news stations this week. still one of the most trusted sources of news out there in the country. so if you think this is also sort of cable chattering class democratic fixation, it isn't. i mean, according to a new poll from abc news, after the country sees trump is a fascist. according to a new siena poll, 76% of the country believes american democracy is under threat. and yet, there's no denying that the race is still tied. so, of course you are anxious. i am anxious, too. we have been through a lot as a country. we are just eight years removed from the misogynistic racist
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defeating the first female nominee thanks in part to a boost from vladimir putin we are just four years removed from the violent insurrection from himself inside it. within nine days, and the days leading up to that, to be honest, the american people get to decide what happened next. i just want to give you just a few quick reasons why you shouldn't be completely freaking out quite yet. i mean, first of all, the race may be tied, but late deciders are breaking for harris. according to that poll, 15% of voters haven't decided yet and harris is leading with that group 42% to 32%. that wasn't the case just a month ago. second, people are already voting and in some key states, women are voting men. according to reports in politico, early voting in michigan, which just started, is so far exceeding expectations. women and black voters have cast early ballots at a higher share than at this point in 2020. even among young men, a group
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we have been hearing over and over again trump has spent a great deal of money and effort courting, and harris has a young lead against young men who say they will definitely vote. and last but certainly not least, kamala harris is a far better ground operation and turnout operation. she also has her campaign chair, and was a part of the team that led campaign for obama's re-election in 2012. she was eight months pregnant at the time, just so everybody knows. she managed bidens winning campaign in 2020, and she was selected and asked to stay on this summer because she knew there was no one better for the job. she knows more about campaigns and me for sure, and maybe almost anyone else out there right now. she is joining me now. she is the chair of the harris for president campaign. i know your life is insane right now and i appreciate you taking the time. let me just start here. i mean, i am getting stopped constantly in coffee shops and train stations with questions about the state of the race. i cannot even imagine what your life is like out there right now. i think it's good people are a
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little freaked out right now at this point, but what should people not be freaked out about the race? you are closer to it than almost anyone else. >> hey, it's great to be here with you. and you are right to say that it is okay to be nervous and to be anxious. but don't be freaked out, because we feel very good about where we are. we are very confident we are going to win this thing. and it's not just because we want to win. it's because what we are seeing at the numbers in the early voting that you were just talking about, what we are seeing with this extraordinary enthusiasm everywhere we go, we are seeing signs were we look to make sure that we are on track to win a very close race. this is going to be a close race. we have known it the entire fall. we are very focused on that. we have built for these moments right now, and what we are seeing from turnout to our volunteer operations to the enthusiasm growing is exactly where we want to be, and we're really confident about that and confident we are going to win
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this thing. >> i want to dig into the early voting data in a minute. but basically, we hear different iterations of this every day. it's a dead heat, it's a coin flip, it's tied. is that pretty much an accurate characterization of where the race sits? >> well, we do really think it is a margin of error race, and we have seen that consistently throughout the fall. so often, as you know, at this point in a campaign, you might say, well, chances are not as good in one state or another. we have one pathway to 270 electoral votes. obviously, that's all we care about is getting to 270. but we see in every one of virtue battleground states that all of them are within the margin. and it's not a margin of error of four or five. were talking about a point here or there. we see that this campaign has
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multiple pathways to 270 electoral votes, and that's really great for us. it represents a lot of opportunity. it also makes it tough because we have a pretty wide map. we are building a mass of organization that is really driving home and each of the states. but we do feel very good about this. we also know, it is extremely close. i'm sure you will ask me about polls, you know, my mom asks me about polls. i get it. but there is nothing that we are seeing that is apprising us right now. this is close. we are on track to win this thing. but it's going to take the work of the next nine days to close this out, and that's the most fundamental thing that we are focused on. >> ask about the early voting. most states across the country, and the key battleground states, voting is happening right now, michigan early voting just darted. i gave some of those numbers. as you are looking at that data, what are you seeing that is encouraging to you, the people out there who are trying to reassure their neighbor or their friend or their mom can tell them about the early vote numbers? >> yeah. so we actually feel very good
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about what we are seeing for early vote. there is no historical precedent for this race. this is probably an obvious thing to say, but the reality is, what we are seeing is pretty unique to 2024. we are seeing high turnout everywhere. we are definitely seeing that our voters are turning out, and we look at two things. we look at how to make sure just the sheer volume of our voters are on track for what we need to win this race in our state to get to 270 electoral votes, but we are also looking at the number of voters who are not traditional voters. they are lower propensity voters. when we look head-to-head at our boat versus republicans, we are coming out ahead there. more of our people that don't traditionally vote are showing up. just in the last two days in clark county in nevada, for instance, where las vegas is, we have seen higher youth turnout in the last two days and we have seen at any other point this cycle. you mentioned michigan. we had 145,000 voters vote early just yesterday alone.
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so we really like what we are seeing. we are seeing strong turnout. our margins are strong, and the folks that are focused on, the lower propensity voters that don't always vote, they are tuning in and showing up at a high-level in support of the vice president. >> it's significant, because lower propensity voters needs that you want to chase him on election day, and that's a very big deal if they are turning out and about in that way. let me ask you about abortion. one of the things obviously that is changed, it's obviously a huge issue for kamala harris, huge issue and contrast in this campaign. it's a big thing that happened since the last presidential election, of course, the overturning of roe v wade. i hear this sometimes. you think women were turning out -- are there women who are turning out there not being captured in polls? is there a portion of people who, as pollsters are looking at the 2020 electorate, that they may not be capturing how angry and outraged women are in this moment? >> well, i'm glad you brought
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this up, and hopefully your viewer saw the vice president houston. you mentioned that earlier, where, it was an amazing event, and of course amazing to people like beyonci and willie nelson there. but truly, what was amazing was the real people, the real stories of people that have been harmed by donald trump that, you know, so much of what we talk about and were focused on is making this case that a second term of donald trump will be worse than the first. when you talk about reproductive freedom, you don't have to make that case in the future. it is happening right now. and the bravery and courage of these women and men showing there's race about what they have gone through, so nobody has to go through that again is so powerful. and it's powerful to mobilize our voters, for sure. i am sure you feel this way, too. this is a just a women's issue. i, like so many women in the world have a fertility journey and my husband has been along with me on that. it impacts all of us.
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but this is also an issue for those undecided voters that are still out there, and we think they are a small number, but 3 to 5% in these battleground states or people have not made up their mind yet. maybe they don't unit all the time, but we know that they are more open to hearing from the vice president than they are donald trump, and they want to be there with us. and an issue like reproductive freedom to remember that that is an issue on the ballot, and that we can all do something about it is really powerful and you are going to continue to see us try this home in the final stretch. >> i've noticed there's been an appeal to men and michelle obama and it vice president harris's remarks as well. let me ask you about the trump campaigns theory of the selection, because it seems to me that they are banking on being able to turn out low propensity men. i think anyone would say are turnout operation, your ground operation is better, so i'm guessing you don't think the strategy is going to work. but why not? >> well, look. i think across the board when you have someone who doesn't vote regularly, it takes a lot more effort to reach them.
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just yesterday alone in our battleground states, we knocked on 1.2 million doors. and every weekend over the course of the fall, we have seen those numbers grow and grow and grow. and for someone that is in a traditional voter or maybe doesn't the politics or campaigning or traditional news, we have to work hard to reach them and reach them in ways that people want to receive their information. but that really means you go on a journey with someone. you are talking about the issues they care about, you are making sure they know the methods to vote in their own lives and the communities they are in, and you are helping support them through that. that takes a lot of effort. most powerful in that effort is people in their own communities volunteering and reaching out to people. that really matters, and we are so proud of this organization and the people that have come together, and it really reflects the vice president's leadership, our volunteers are from every walk of life. every age, every group, and they have relationships and they have stories and reasons
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that they're putting this effort in and they are sharing noses are going out there to reach people. we are so inspired by the organization and the people in this country that are standing up and standing with the vice president and then going out there and doing the work to reach people that still need more information. >> volunteers and field organizers, the heart and soul of the whole thing. we have to sneak in a very quick break. i have more questions, i'm sure you want to hear her. she's agreed to stick around for one more segment. i would ask her about donald trump's past admiration for hitler's generals. they seem to think it's all just baked in. no one cares. we will see what jen thinks after a quick break. break. irritating residues. and it's gentle on her skin. tide free and gentle liquid is epa safer choice certified. it's gotta be tide.
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it's our son, he is always up in our business. it's the verizon 5g home internet i got us. oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. >> let's make a deal. i ask this question, you answer it, and then we move on to another issue. do you personally -- are you personally okay if donald trump says that he wants his generals to be like hitler's generals? >> americans do not like to
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talk about that. >> we were a lot of extreme things about donald trump, from donald trump. it's kind of par for the course. it's really unfortunately -- with a guy like that, it's kind of baked into the boat at this point. >> republican congressman says people don't want to talk about it. chris nunez says it is all baked in. they sure seem to think voters simply don't care. the harris campaign is betting they do. jen o'malley dillon is with me. she's the chair of the harris for president campaign. you hear this from republicans on tv, trump supporters all the time who seem to think fascism and kind words for hitler is all baked in and that voters don't care. i know you don't agree with that, what are you seeing? you look at the strategy of pulling over voters. why reminding people of this is effective, and was effective with? >> i think we have seen from the beginning that when people
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who have worked closest with donald trump speak out, it has real impact on voters. and certainly all these voters that we are still trying to reach. the small segment of undecided voters. we know anecdotally, we know from our research when someone like john kelly stands up and speaks about what it was like to serve under donald trump, speaks about how he clearly wants unchecked power, the american people are not comfortable with that. that is an important contrast that we have. i think that it's fundamental to everything that the vice president is talking about. how we turn the page from this, how we have leadership in this country that is focused on the issues the american people care about. it's really important when people who are closest to donald trump speak out about it, and we see that across all of our data. >> we played earlier the ad the campaign put out using john kelly's own words, which should
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be startling to people. liz cheney is out there on the trail. i think of this is kind of appealing to undecided, the 4 to 6% you mentioned, more moderate voters, is that really who these people you are focused on with these ads and with liz cheney and others like that on the trail? >> well, we are obviously focused on reaching a broad coalition of voters, and you see that across the travel we are doing, the events that the vice president is doing. you hear that in her speeches. we really believe it's going to take a broad coalition to stand with us to make sure that vice president harris and governor walz win. but of course, to these voters, maybe they never voted with a democrat. maybe they are someone that, you know, to doubt the politics in the past because they really didn't like how it felt to see donald trump on tv when he was president. for those voters, it is important to remind them of what is at stake and to remind them that this time around, donald trump really won't have any guardrails on him. and we know when we talk about that, and not just as a campaign.
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i mean, fundamentally, as you mentioned, it's not our words and our voices saying this. this is people that no-trump best. they are very credible sources. the fact that they are out there doing that now are out there on the campaign trail speaking out against, you know, a party they have stood for their whole lives, that has real impact. and we think it's very important in these closing days. it's a factor, of course, to build on top of the vice president vision. and that really is fundamental to what we believe we need to do as we close out this race. we need to also talk about the leadership the vice president is going to bring for you. you hear that at every event she is doing. >> i should mention there is lots of talking about abortion rights, there is as on the economy and abortion rights also turning the page. is a lot happening at every moment. the vice president is going to give this speech on tuesday night where donald trump spoke on january 6th. there's a lot of reading into that and predictions of what that is going to be. there is still time before that speech is finalized, but what
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do you on the campaign hope people take away from that speech on tuesday? >> well, you are right to say that this is a really important speech, and it is really setting up the closing argument for these final days of the campaign to be clear with the american people that there is a choice between the vice president and donald trump. and you are seeing that in how donald trump is closing this race. he talked about it here on your show, talking about the enemy within. when you see his events, it's a lot of chaos and vitriol, and that is really not the path that the vice president is going to take us on. she really is talking about a new generation of leadership in a new path forward. i think what you're going to see on tuesday that stark contrast, you are also going to see what we see it every event that the vice president has in all of our surrogates are having out there. people are dancing and having fun. and yes, there's a lot of joy, too, but it is hopeful, and there's people coming together with folks they know, bringing friends and family, but also
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folks that they don't, because they believe in something better, and they believe it's possible to have that. and i think in the vice president, she's going to talk about how this election is not about her even, or donald trump. it's about the american people and it's about her to do list. what is she going to do when she walks in the white house? she's going to be thinking about you and she's going to think about how she can bring cost down for your family. how she can make housing more affordable. she's going to protect housing and social security and medicare. how she's going to ensure reproductive freedoms are for everyone. those are the issues that the american people care most about, and it is possible to believe that we can have a future that really is led by the vice president on all the issues that we are all thinking about every day, and that is really what you're going to see in our close on tuesday. >> she knows more about campaigns and politics than almost anyone else. also, a mom. great to see you. thank you for taking your time during a very busy time. >> coming up, with donald trump
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okay. let's be honest. if you are watching the show, you are probably wondering, how is this race tied? when trump says things like, migrants are eating cats and dogs and maybe we should have a purge style day of violence. it's hard not to wonder, who buys this? who agrees with this? but there are those people out there. and no one is better at exposing just how fervent some of trump supporters are no matter what he says than the daily shows jordan klepper. he has a new special airing tomorrow night, and we have a sneak peek for you. >> reporter: yes, the government is all-powerful, but also, not powerful enough,
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which is why trump recently called for police to have a little purge to deal with rising crime. >> one rough hour, and i mean real rough, and it will and immediately. >> he supported cop purge? >> actually do. >> is the first one and getting on cop purge day, litter bugs. >> okay. >> is new special airs tomorrow night. it's called the daily show presents jordan klepper fingers the polls, rallied together. we have talked about this before. i love your clips. i don't even know how they don't know who you are. maybe they do know who you are. you been going to these trump rallies for 8 years now. we are nine days out from an election. how have these rallies changed? how have they stay the same? >> well, i will say part of the conceit of this special was that we wanted to get new people in who hadn't been to a
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rally before and see how they would see things differently than they were. quite frankly, what we noticed is, there's less of an energy there. there's not many people showing up. he feels tired. there is definitely maga folks were going around the loop and a been there thousand times . i met edward, he's been there 93 times. he's going to every single rally. but it feels like the circus has been around here many, many times, and not everybody is showing up for this last go around. >> you do hear that, but you been to a lot of them. 93 rallies. were going to play another clip from the special. this is a particularly good one. >> the democrats are controlling the weather? >> the government. >> so trump gets in office, he will have control of the weather. >> they will pass on the torch, i assume. >> so the weather control is more like a machine than a spell? >> you could detour things from happening.
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>> so watching that, i mean, it's obviously a conspiracy theory, but you talk to so many of these people, you're just presenting them with basic questions. is there every conspiracy theory that you found your people don't buy it, or is it basically this trend of, trump says something, people who are the faithful are going to repeat it, even if it doesn't entirely make sense? >> i think trump is the pace car for misinformation. if he says it, people tend to keep up. we brought thomas lennon along, and he came along saying wilder things and even trump did, and people matched it. i think the liberal elites here on the east coast are often wondering, how can these people believe this? is there any piece of information that's what a change somebody's mind? quite frankly, the answer is no. they can replace to make america great hat and just have a hat that says i know, and i don't care. that's what we are seeing. people understand the information, or at least a choosing not to engage with it. and then they are just loving
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this guy. they don't care what the new information, the new crazy wild thing out there is. he is part of who their identity is. they are voting trump all the way. >> one of your goals, obviously, is to make people laugh. you are usually very good at it. we are very close to the election. what do you hope people watching get out of it? is there something beyond laughter? >> i hope there is -- i think there's catharsis in laughing. >> that's true. >> i think there's a little bit of hope in this. at the end of the special, i spoke to somebody who has sought a bunch of trump rallies who thought, events were a farce. most people really truly believe that there is no energy on the other side, and he was willing to come with me to a kamala harris event and see these paid actors in action. at the end of it, he didn't change his mind, but he was open to the fact that there is another side. there are people that are passionate about ideas that he is not passionate about.
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if you take one thing away from it, understand that you can still have these conversations. un-american that i hope still exists after this election is one you can sherry laugh with somebody you don't exactly believe in, but he was open to new experiences. at least we got a little bit of that hope at the end of the special. >> we all need a little bit of hope to dose down the anxiety. i can't wait to watch. so much for joining me. coming up, when you are this close to election day, is nothing more valuable than hearing directly from voters. so i traveled to michigan this week to see what is motivating folks in the final moments of this campaign. and some of what i heard definitely surprised me. we will be right back. back. n . for easier heartburn relief, one beats ten. prilosec otc. one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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>> at this point in the race, almost nothing is more important than the ground game, especially in the battleground date that will decide this race. including michigan, where early voting kicked off this weekend with more than 145,000 people casting ballots yesterday. that's because that is far exceeding what the expectations were. that's on top of the more than 1.4 million ballots already cast by mail. it's a testament to the hard work being done by so many organizations to get voters to turn out. and one of them is emily's list, which is working to get women elected across the country up and down the ballot. and i got a close look at the work they are doing when i traveled to michigan this week on friday and tag along with
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emily's list staffers as they knocked on doors in oakland county. to see for myself what is motivating voters there. ting v. >> tell me a little bit about what the work that emily's list is doing in michigan. >> the largest resource for women's and politics, and were making sure to protect the right that michiganders voted for to secure here including reproductive rights. >> we have a democratic trifecta here in michigan right now. we got it last cycle, in 2022. it was long and hard-fought to get that trifecta. >> kamala harris at the top of the ticket, elissa slotkin, have a big state rep race. we are in the district right now. there's a lot of women on the ticket this cycle. >> yeah. >> hi, how are you? >> is there one issue that is driving you both to the polls this year? >> reproductive rights, probably for me, as a female,
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and also, we both are raising our daughter, who is 14. so i think that's really important issue for us for sure. >> we worked hard to get reproductive rights here in michigan. we don't want to lose that. my family are really big into the lgbtq i rights, and are concerned with donald trump coming in that they are what to take those away. so we have -- we have been following that. >> if harris wins, are you nervous about what the environment could be like in michigan given what happened four years ago? >> and harris wins? >> i'm just raising the question of whether this would be a chance to change and challenge the outcome. >> is a really good point. i have thought about concerns. i work former law-enforcement, and i work with people and i have put out some feelers like, hey, you heard any inside concerns for safety, even going to vote? but i do believe the concerns maybe afterwards and the push, because he's not going to concede.
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he hasn't conceded from 2020. so there is some concerns for cher. i think there will be possible disruptions. disruptions. >> have you decided we are going to vote for yet? what were the biggest issues making your decision this year? >> i want the complexity of good government versus the simplicity of silliness, it makes the choice pretty easy. >> sounds like using one candidate is silly and what is not. >> well, yeah. i mean, i'm not a trump guy. i would vote for trump. i think he lies, i think he cheats. i think he is unprincipled, i think is unethical. >> is a character issue for you. >> yes. it should be the character we follow. follow. >> when you guys decided he wanted to get involved in politics the cycle again, why did you decide you wanted to work for emily's list?
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>> i think after the overturn of roe v wade, there's just so much at stake. >> i think so many of us remember exactly how he felt in 2016, and now knowing how much is at stake for things like -- >> how old were each of you in 2016? >> i was 19. >> i was, as well. >> my first presidential vote was voting for hillary clinton. and i think similar to that, that really shaped my entry into politics. >> are there issues on your mind that you are focused on that you are worried about as you look to the outcome just over a week from now? >> for me, the two biggest things are the conflict in gaza, and my right to choose. women's rights. i am terrified of what the other side could be doing in
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controlling our bodies or passing legislation to make that choice between a woman, her doctor, and the government. that is absolutely a terrifying thing to me, personally. >> the conflict in gaza. tell me a bit about your positions here and how you feel about where the candidates are coming from on that issue. >> yeah. i haven't found a compelling argument on either side. i do agree that there needs to be a two state solution, but killing innocent civilians on a daily basis is absolutely gut wrenching. i am an arab-american, and i don't believe that joe biden and kamala harris have done enough, and i am voting for that you hope that they will do better, because i do believe that donald trump would not be beneficial in this situation. >> you still feel motivated to vote. >> i think this election, the stakes are way too high.
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>> think so much to emily's list for letting me tag along. coming up with nine days to go, michelle obama is just one of the closing messengers taking the case directly to the american people. it's just one of the things i want to ask jim messina about in our weekly check-in. he standing by to answer my big three questions, coming up next. up next. i'm a lifelong republican and i voted for trump twice, but i can't do it again. trump wants a national sales tax on imported goods. it'll make everything more expensive for regular people, all while giving tax breaks to billionaires.
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during an unexpected pregnancy. your niece could be the one miscarrying in her bathtub after the hospital turned her away. and this will not just affect women. it will affect you and your sons. and then there is the tragic but very real possibility that in the worst case scenario, you just might be the one holding flowers at the funeral. you might be the one left to raise your children alone. >> i was none other than michelle obama, was very good at this, making a direct appeal to men on the issue of abortion rights last night in michigan. 20 me now for 3 big questions about the state of the race is jim messina. he was president obama's campaign manager in 2012, which i think you all know. jim, i have the same three questions for you. if you are the harris campaign, i'm guessing that speech was one of the best things that happened to you this week. you and i both know how good
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michelle obama is at this. looking at the numbers, what else are you feeling good about if you are them right now? >> jen, here come the surrogates. i mean, you showed michelle obama. there is no bigger and more popular american figure than michelle obama. her coming out the final week, as you said earlier, this is about the ground game now. it is about supporting the troops and making sure people want to vote. having michelle obama out there was amazing. her husband, barack obama, unbelievable this week. both making the case to the american public about the sheer moment that we are in, but then did you see him rapping eminem lyrics? i mean, come on. he is just so much better than anyone else. and this is incredibly important, because when you start to look at the early vote numbers, you can start to say, we are not doing as well in the state. let's send obama here. let's send him a little bit over here. and so having the surrogates is
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incredibly helpful. at the same time, donald trump has cricket for surrogates. and that is a big advantage. >> that is such a good reminder for people. this is why we don't know where they are all going to be next weekend, because the campaign is still figuring that out right now. okay. if you are them, what is the biggest area of concern, or where you feel like more needs to happen right now? >> sadly, we are right back to people trying to steal this election. donald trump, true social this week that the election was stolen from him, they are starting to do it again. he is watching it. why he is he saying this 11 days before the election? is he starting to set up the argument for after the election. this week, a north carolina member of congress said that north carolina should just give its electoral votes to trump now. it shouldn't have to vote. what are we talking about? this week in the courts, you had to go to court in four different states. virginia, michigan,
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pennsylvania, and georgia to stop the republicans from trying to screw with you can vote, when they can vote. i mean, we are just now fighting this multitiered war on the legal stuff in a way that is just much more -- much bigger than in 2020 and a little bit more scary, too. the good news is, we won all these lawsuits, but the bad news is, we shouldn't have to be fighting them. >> what is one thing in the 30 seconds we have left that people aren't talking about in terms of what is going on out there on the trail that you think people should have their eye on? >> kamala harris's momentum. there is this view in d.c. that he has momentum. it is just not true. look at the numbers from this morning's if so's pole. a full 15% of voters say they are undecided or could change their vote coming into the election. now favor her by 10 points. this is a 12 point move. he led by a couple points 10 days ago, now she has the momentum.
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she is closing better. i don't think people fully understand how important that is and how good she is on the close. >> important to remember. it's not all the d.c. pundits you know all the things. thank you so much. i have one more thing to tell you about before we go today. we are back after a very quick break. break. you nailed it! you did it! with centrum silver, clinically proven to support memory in older adults. sounds like you need to vaporize that cold. nyquil vapocool? it's nyquil plus a rush of vicks vapors. ♪ vapocooooool ♪ nyquil vapocool. the vaporizing night time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
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