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>> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> look, we are eight days out from an election so i have to also talk about the contrast. my opponent spend fulls time talking about just kind of diminishing who we are as america. and talking down at people. talking about that we're the garbage can of the world. we're not. >> vice president kamala harris keeping her foot on the gas, as donald trump stages a racist carnival of hate, rage, and misogyny at madison square garden. >> and that is where we begin tonight. that trump rally at new york's madison square garden that just wasn't reminiscent of the pro nazi rally held, it mirrored that event right down to trump's white supremacist ghoul stephen miller echoing nazi rhetoric in
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his speech. >> america is for americans and americans only. >> that's great grandson of jewish immigrants stephen miller. echoing the words of that night in 1939 that promised to restore america to the true americans. in case you had any doubts about that being full-blooded soil talk from miller. of course, they tried to cloak the fascism of it all by rolling out a litany of maga losers and celebrity has-beens like dr. phil, who used his minute to whine about dei. but only has a career after being offered west texas white man dei from oprah winfrey. and disgraced and disbarred former america's mayor, rudy giuliani, who claimed that palestinian toddlers are murderers. while accusing democrats of being on the side of terrorists
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in israel's war in gaza. and if you don't think they know fully or knew fully what they were doing, one speaker, radio host sid rosenberg said the quiet part out loud. >> i get back and they go, sid, you want to speak at this msg thing. i go, sure. for me to speak at a nazi rally, but i took the gig. >> i will again remind you stephen miller paraphrased literal american supporters of adolf hitler at this rally. this is not a joke. yet people like that offered the meat of the maga closing argument last night in an event that careened from disturbing to the entirely absurd. trump lawyer alina habba who lost every case she put up for him dancing her way to the stage in a bedazzled maga jacket to all i do is win. and wrestler hulk hogan having a wardrobe malfunction of sorts on his signature move, followed by
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a litany of speakers unloading a stream of racism, unabashed misogyny, demonizing immigrants, lgbtq folks, and vice president harris. >> the whole [ bleep ] party, a bunch of degenerates, low lives. every one of them. >> she's a fake, a fraud. she's a pretender. her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country. >> in fact, she is the devil, whoever screamed that out. she's the antichrist. >> because she's just so impressive. as the first samoan malaysian low-iq former california prosecutor ever to be elected president. >> i'm not just maga. i'm gothic maga. >> i'll be damned if you're going to have some schools tell my boys they can now be girls. >> i have just one question for florida congressman byron donald
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since you have thoughts about what you will or will not be told to do or not to do, how about being brought on stage immediately after a speaker who used this music in his introduction. ♪ i wish i was in a land ♪ >> in case you can't quite make that out, that's elvis presley's take on dixieland, look away, look away, look away. all that old time racist nostalgia. the moment that really set the tone for the entire night came at the start from comedian and podcaster tony hinchcliff. >> these latinos, they love making babies, too. just know that. they do. they do. there's no pulling out. they don't do that. they come inside, just like they did to our country.
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i don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. yeah, i think it's called puerto rico. >> the trump campaign now says his remarks which were vetted by the campaign and loaded into the prompter, do not reflect the views of donald trump or the campaign. but if that were the case, i mean, none of the next 28 or so speakers pushed back before trump took the stage. and trump himself used the same kind of racist and dehumanizing language he always does, vowing that what he calls an invasion of immigrants will end the day he takes the oath of office and he fell back on his inflammatory and dangerous comments about democrats as the enemy within. >> we're running against something far bigger than joe or kamala. and far more powerful than them, which is a massive vicious crooked radical left machine that runs today's democrat
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party. they're smart and they're vicious. we have to defeat them, and when i say the enemy from within, the other side goes crazy. becomes oh, how can he say? they have done very bad things to this country. they are indeed the enemy from within. but this is who we're fighting. >> that is the kind of rhetoric that along with his former chief of staff general john kelly and former joint chiefs chair mark milley saying he's a fascist and would rule like a dictator, that should be a screaming front page headline, looking at you "washington post." this weekend, "the new york times" finally did its part to not comply in advance. blasting on the front page of its sunday opinion page, donald trump says he will prosecute his enemies, order mass deportations, use soldiers against citizens, abandon allies, play politics with disasters. writing that the statements are so outrageous and outlandish, so
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openly in conflict with the norms and values of american democracy that many find them hard to regard as anything but empty bluster. we have two words for american voters. believe him. this is in stark contrast to kamala harris, who today weighed in on the fallout from the racist rhetoric at trump's msg rally. >> i think last night, donald trump's event in madison square garden really highlighted a point i have been making throughout this campaign. he is focused and actually fixated on his grievances, on himself, and on dividing our country. and it is not in any way something that will strengthen the american family, the american worker. it is absolutely something that is intended to and is fanning the fuel of trying to divide our country. >> so while trump was in
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reliably blue new york without any of the seven republican new york congressional candidates in competitive house races standing alongside him, harris was continuing to do the groundwork for both her campaign and her party. marking her 20th visit to pennsylvania this year, by going to a puerto rican restaurant and releasing a detailed plan to implement her vision of an opportunity economy in puerto rico. which includes new investments in education, bringing child tax credits to puerto rican families, and strengthening the island's energy grid. >> puerto rico is home to some of the most talented, innovative, and ambitious people in our nation. and puerto ricans deserve a president who sees and invests in that strength. >> the contrast could not be any clearer. innovative, ambitious people, or floating island of garbage. the trump campaign's attempt to rebound from trump's embarrassing critique of detroit
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while in detroit by degenerating puerto rico while in a state boasting the second largest concentration of puerto ricans is weird and puzzling. but also consequential. any real new yorker knows the city is synonymous with caribbean culture and almost immediately after comedian tony hinchcliff's whatever you want to call what we saw last night, the island's and the world's biggest talents including marc anthony, jennifer lopez, and bad bunny responded by endorsing vice president harris. a massive signal to a voting bloc trump targeted by courting a reggae artist he later misgendered. joining me is luis miranda jr., author of relentless, my story of the latino spirit that is transforming america. i want to get your top of the mind comments and reactions to that rally that took place in
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new york yesterday including that now infamous comedy routine about puerto rico. >> it is so trump. and so trump's friends. puerto ricans were not new to this. in 2017, when hurricane maria hit puerto rico, and devastated the island, he went to the island to throw paper towel rolls to us. he then withhold the aid that congress had appropriated to help puerto rico for a long time, and said that we were lazy and we wanted everything done to us. so it's not surprising that from lazy we move to garbage. there's just a step between the two. and we hear a lot, but he didn't say it. but he did.
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it's your home. it's your political event. the people who speak at that political event are doing your closing argument. and they're doing it from various perspectives. that's what a political event is. so the fact that this guy was allowed to say what he said about puerto ricans and latinos and jews, it was equal opportunity attacks. we're talking about puerto ricans, but it's typical trump. it's always a place where we all get our sharing of insults. >> yeah, i mean, but the thing about it is it felt very off -- it didn't seem like a really wise campaign strategy, let's put it that way. i don't know what they were trying to accomplish. if you think of puerto ricans as a community, there are over a million in new york.
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he's not going to win new york, but 8.3% of connecticut's population, but go to swing states. pennsylvania, 486,000 plus puerto ricans in the state of pennsylvania. florida, 1.2 million. as we know, when off island, when on the mainland, thesis folks can vote. i know you have been to arizona, pennsylvania, nevada, nebraska, and georgia traveling around talking to voters. i want to let you listen to two puerto rican voters who were in philly who responded to last night's event. >> now i'm early voting because he filled up my desire to vote. all those disgusting need to be stopped. it's time to take the garbin out so i'm voting to get it out. >> it does impact the votes because they're not going to vote for trump. >> how do you want somebody to vote for you when you're talking
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negative about them? >> trump has been trying to appeal to latino voters and specifically to puerto rican voters. do you think he undid whatever benefits he had done for himself last night? >> he did. this was a different kind of insult. at the end of the day, people are going to vote for their pocket and they're going to talk about the economy and all of that. but this appeals to your heart. everyone has the memories of spending time in puerto rico, if that's where your parents were born. my kids spend their summers in puerto rico, they speak splendidly about their memories of puerto rico. so this is an insult of the heart. and when you insult the heart, you get emotional responses. and that's what you have seen so much outrage. it would have been simple to say, hey, i'm sorry.
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but that's not trump. because at the end of the day, he has created this campaign to divide us. to make sure that he pits groups against groups. and have one agenda. that he's very clear about. it revolves around immigration. it involves going after everyone that is against him. so he's his campaign strategy was totally reflected in this madison square garden event. >> yeah, indeed. luis miranda jr., thank you so much. much appreciated. >> thank you. let's bring in tara setmayer, cofounder and ceo of the seneca project and former republican communications director. and stuart stevens, chief strategist for mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign and senior adviser for the lincoln project. you both just heard luis miranda talking about the idea of trying to divide people, stuart.
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normally, i didn't work on a lot of campaigns but the two i worked on, it was not to divide people, it was to add. you had to add. and even in the republican party, in florida, which again, has 1.2 million puerto ricans that are eligible to vote, it's 5.6% of the population, rick scott, the senator who is in a fight for his re-election said, oh, no, this joke bombed for a reason, not funny. maria salazar said the racist comment calling puerto rico a floating island of garbage, she said it was racist, it does not reflect gop values. okay. marco rubio tries to spin, saying puerto rico wasn't garbage and tried to flip to an attack on kamala harris. a congressman in miami did the same attack. so they steam have picked up, stuart, this was a mistake. your thoughts. >> yeah, this is a campaign,
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they lost by 7 million. he needs new customers. what is he doing to get it? he seems to be picking these different groups. so to recover from being off message, talking about arnold palmer's penis and having military tribunals for judges and political opponents, they decided to stage a madison square garden hate rally. they had a problem with women so they attack taylor swift. it's just -- it's a campaign that is the essence of trump. and there's no strategy here. it's just all his sort of ego and i.d., and look, i think the guy is going to get about 47%, and i think he's going to lose. >> and i think they're in a mode now, tara, where they don't seem super confident based on some of the things they're doing and saying, and also, they're almost overconfident in a way. again, puerto ricans are a huge population in north carolina. in pennsylvania.
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in florida. and they're not just going after them. oh, no, they're not leaving off the blacks either. here's what tony hinchcliff, who i just found out who he was yesterday, here is his joke about the blacks. >> black guy with a thing on his head, what the hell is that? a lamp shade. look at this guy. oh, my goodness. wow. i'm just kidding. that's one of my buddies. he had a halloween party last night. we had fun, we carved watermelons together. >> between that and playing dixie for byron donalds, what's the point at this point? >> i mean, there's so much. that was a lot yesterday. i have to say that they're trying to hide behind comedy or oh, it was just a joke, or you need to just take it as a joke. well, i've got news for you. there are a lot of groups in this country that dont have the luxury of taking what these people say as jokes. women certainly don't. women of color certainly don't.
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black men certainly don't. anyone who is not a white christian male certainly does not have the luxury of just laughing it off and getting over it as jd vance said. they mean what they say. they're not trying to actually run a campaign that is inclusive. no, they're not. they mean this. this is who they are. how many -- no matter how many times trump surrogates and his enablers, think that they're going to make excuses for him and he's not going to come for them, like the byron donalds of the world, the self haters that think if they say enough and tap dance enough that trump is not going to come for them too, i have news for you, he's coming for you too. they see women as a threat, authoritarians see women as a threat, as enemies of the state, if we have freedom. that's why they want to restrict our freedoms and subjugate us. this is all part of who they are. they are showing us. and no matter how many times they try to make excuses or
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laugh it off or hide behind the guise of comedy, it speaks from the heart. donald trump means it. and the people he surrounds himself with, this is the closing argument time. these are supposed to be your top surrogates. these are the kinds of people that donald trump will surround himself in a new administration if he won, god forbid. so everyone needs to pay attention. especially women. that's why it's so important, that's why we started seneca project, to speak to women about what is at stake for us. they're telling us. the misogyny, the vile insults against kamala harris and women last night, is a window into how they plan to govern and what they think of us. believe them. >> yeah. and by the way, to that very point, let's play thomas homan, woo was the i.c.e. director who was in charge of child separation. that was him last night on 60 minutes saying we mean it, we're going to deport people, including families. >> we have seen one estimate that says it would cost $88
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billion to deport a million people a year. >> i don't know if that's accurate or not. >> is that what american taxpayers should expect? >> what price do you put on national security? is it worth it? >> is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? >> of course there is. families can be deported together. >> that means they mean it, right, tara? >> yes. they're telling you. i don't know how many times they have to do this, and then people make excuses for them. donald trump demonstrated this when he was president. he withheld $20 billion from puerto rico in disaster aid because he was upset with them because he thinks they're garbage, they are not american citizens. this is what they're doing. and people are paying attention, that's why you see this energy in early voting. especially in some of these states where women are voting at a higher rate. it's because they see what's
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happening. we're seeing hell no, we won't go back. we're not trying to go back there, and that's why it's so important that things are covered the way they are, because they are telling us, believe them. and we use our voices, our vote and our power from now until election day. the only way to stop this. >> let me very quickly play alexandria ocasio-cortez and her closing argument about last night's rally. >> this was a hate rally. this was not just a presidential rally. this was also not just a campaign rally. i think it's very important for people to understand that these are mini january 6th rallies. these are mini stop the steal rallies. these are rallies to prime an electorate into rejecting the results of an election if it doesn't go the way they want. >> i'm going to pick that point up on the other side of the break. but for now, i want to thank tara. stuart is going to stick with us. coming up, as trump stages his carnival of racism, vice president kamala harris is
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running an actual substantive campaign. that and her big plan for tomorrow, next. oh! right in the temporal lobe! beat it, punks! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
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i'm a lifelong republican and i voted for trump twice, only pay for what you need. but i can't do it again. trump wants a national sales tax on imported goods. it'll make everything more expensive for regular people, all while giving tax breaks to billionaires. you're rich as hell. we're going to give you tax cuts. kamala harris is for regular people. she wants a tax cut for 100 million americans, so we keep more of our hard-earned money. i'm a proud republican, but this year, i'm voting for kamala harris. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad.
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san francisco's leadership is failing us. that's why mark farrell is endorsing prop d. because we need to tackle our drug and homelessness crisis just like mark did as our interim mayor. mark farrell endorsing prop d, to bring the changes we need for the city we love.
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san francisco's leadership is failing us. that's why mark farrell is endorsing prop d. because we need to tackle our drug and homelessness crisis just like mark did as our interim mayor. mark farrell endorsing prop d, to bring the changes we need for the city we love. vice president kamala harris is in michigan today. at any moment she's expected to take the stage in ann arbor, the third of three events in the great lake state just today. the vice president is set to hit nearly all of the battleground states in the coming days as the campaign heads to the finish
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line. but there might not be a bigger day for the vp that tomorrow, when harris is expected to deliver a closing argument speech in washington, d.c. outside the white house on the ellipse. the exact site where donald trump spoke on january 6th shortly before his mob of maga supporters attacked the u.s. capitol in a final attempt to try to over turn the 2020 election results and keep trump in power. joining me is molly jong fast, vanity fair special correspondent and msnbc contributor, and stuart stevens is back with me. on the other side of the break, i played alexandria ocasio-cortez saying last night's event was a precursor to another attempt at insurrection. kamala harris tomorrow will stand on the ellipse and make a case to stop another insurrection by electing her. what do you expect her to do in that moment and what impact do you think it might have? >> you know, i sat ipthese rooms where you try to figure out where you goane presidential
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campaign. i want to say, i love the harris campaign. whoever thought of this, this was such a smart idea to do. because it just frames things as contrast. and it's right there, and she has this thing that she has that we don't have to go back, we don't have to have donald trump in your face, we can move forward. what better way to show that than what they're going to do tomorrow. i'll a big fan of this campaign in general and i think they're hitting more and more in their stride as they get closer to the finish, which is very hard to do in a presidential campaign. >> yeah, especially in such a short time. i think now, after this all campaigns should be 75 days. i actually think they now set a precedent we should keep. you know what else is smart? any time you deploy michelle obama. let's play a little bit of her epic speech the other night. >> your daughter could be the one too terrified to call the doctor if she's bleeding during an unexpected pregnancy.
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if your wife is shivering and bleeding on the operating room table during a routine delivery gone bad, her pressure dropping as she loses more and more blood, or some unforeseen infection spreads and her doctors aren't sure if they can act, you will be the one praying that it's not too late. you just might be the one holding flowers at the funeral. you might be the one left to raise your children alone. i am asking y'all from the core of my being to take our lives seriously. >> molly, my friend, there's a justice league avengers quality to this deployment of star power in the closing weeks of this campaign. what's the impact? you can throw in bad bunny, michelle obama, the whole list of people. >> i was actually looking at the text of this speech today. it was published in "the new york times." and it really is, this is a speech you should go back and
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look at. what she is saying is take women's health care seriously. we are dying. these women, largely more black and brown women than white women, but white women too, these women are dying. and you have doctors who are afraid to treat. and you're seeing this, and the most you're seeing it is in texas where sb-8 overturned roe a year before roe was overturned at the supreme court. and i think so much about how important this message is, that women are dying, and by the way, they're forced to be walking coffins for babies that will die. and we're seeing this more and more at this study from johns hopkins out of texas. the effects of sb-8 increase 13, 14% in infant mortality. you have women carrying babies they know will die. and having to go through the trauma, and her message was so clear and so important, which was take our lives seriously. i can't tell you, you know, yes, they have a lot of great
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surrogates out there, everyone from bill clinton to, you know, barack obama -- >> beyonce. >> right, but that, michelle obama speech, it's just so important. and moving, and we don't have to live like this, and the reason that roe was decided so broadly in 1973 was because really it was an untenable situation and that's where we are again today. >> i have to ask you this, just because we talk about these issues behind the scenes so we're going to put our text messages out there. last night's appeal, just to pivot back for a moment, to see stephen miller like literally quoting nazi propaganda from 1939, as a grandson of jewish b. i wonder how that struck you and the fact they named all the enemies, lgbtq folks, women without children, black people, brown people, immigrants, puerto rican whose are american citizens. they named all the enemies and
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attacked them. i wonder how it resonated with you and how you think it's going to resonate in this campaign. >> yeah, i wrote about it today in my vanity fair column. as a jew, my great grandparents came to this country during the odessa pogroms, and it's unbelievable to watch a jew say america is for americans only. america is an ideal. america is, we are founded on a principle, and it's so ironic because you go back and look at, i was looking at ronald reagan and george w. bush, i mean, these are not my people here, talking about how america is the place you come to when you are welcomed here. 1,000 points of light, we are here to do better and be better. i mean, thesis guys are not my guys. in any way, reagan or bush, but they believed in the ideal of america, which donald trump and stephen miller no longer do.
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>> and stuart, it's left to kamala harris to be the shining city on a hill candidate. who would have thunk it? >> the party i was drawn to that molly is talking about, ronald reagan announced for president in front of the statue of liberty. he signed a bill that made everyone in the country legal before 1983. his last speech was an ode to immigration. and when he was running against george bush for the primary, you can see it on youtube, there is a debate they had in texas where they actually get in an argument about who is more liberal on immigration. and you know, it's like your head explodes. but that was something that the party embraced. and now, it's just really -- the republican party is not a traditional american party. it's an extremist movement. that's how we really have to view it. >> indeed, and the thing they're
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embracing which is insane is hitlerism, which is a weird place to be as a country. thank you both very much. up next, the ongoing threat to our democracy, and how today's political environment echoes the normalization of hitler and other autocrats over the years. we'll be right back. ht back.
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in new york city, in 1939, the year hitler was finishing
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construction of his sixth concentration camp in europe, a pro-nazi organization held a ral eat madison square garden to celebrate the rise of nazism. here's a "new york times" headline months after the rally took place. quote, hitler's life has been a relentless struggle. earlier in the 1930s, the headlines were even more disturbing in how they normalized, even romanticized a monster, where hitler dreams and plans, a 1937 article describing his bavarian home where he lived simply and he transformed to a mansion and fortress and the first headline about hitler and the gray lady, new popular idol rises in bavaria. he was anti-semitic and a monster. fast forward to when russian president vladimir putin briefly stepped away from the presidency and was poised to come back. the media did the same thing, built him up with "time" magazine naming him person of
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the year in 2007. big journalism has a bad history when it comes to atcrats. and it doesn't seem to be improving. "the washington post" and l.a. times have chosen not to endorse a presidential candidate. with "the washington post" editor at large who resigned on friday making an explosive claim that trump met with the blue origin space company, the same day bezos killed the plan to support kamala harris for president. bezos is the owner of blue origin and "the washington post." democracies die in darkness and also as history shows with the help of the media. joining me now is msnbc senior political analyst matthew dowd. matthew, as of now, more than 200,000 people have quit their subscriptions to "the washington post." liz cheney talked about doing so. i no longer subscribe. there are lots of people walking away from it. >> i don't either. >> there you go. and so what message does that send, do you think it sends a message that's useful? and what do you make of jeff
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bezos either capitulating in advance tos you the tim snyder phrase or making a business decision to play ball with the autocrat? >> you know, first, i want to say something about the 1939 sort of lead-in you had here. i mean, people forget the roots that a lot of the fascism had in america. i mean, the biggest industrialist in the world, henry ford, was part of this. charles lindbergh, that international hero, was part of this. there was a radio priest, father coghlan, i knew of him because he was based in detroit, who was buried where my mom and sister are buried. he had one of every four americans listen to him. one of every four americans listen to him on the radio, and he had fushed fascism in the course of this. so this -- and hitler did the same thing that putin has done that is becoming here. this is where i'm going to go with bezos. this is why i hope in the
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aftermath, when harris wins, i think the democratic party needs to really have messaging that's anti-oligarch. because what's becoming here is fascist and dictators always have this group of people around them that they help make money, that they help empower, that use the leader and putin has this. hitler had this. and now in america, it's becoming the same thing here with donald trump, with bezos, with elon musk, and all the bros in silicon valley that are doing the same exact thing. >> yeah. >> i actually think a successful campaign against billionaires and oligarchs in america because this, i mean, that's actually something that can tie together a harris coalition and part of the trump coalition who is angry about this, who feel somebody else is doing that to them, the people who are doing this to them are the oligarchs. >> that's right. and here's the thing, i think that's really important because elon musk is not doing this because he likes donald trump.
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he's doing it because he thinks he'll control donald trump whose brain is mashed potatoes and he has peter thiel and he can control jd vance easily. jd vance doesn't know anything about government. they can control him too. they think of themselves as running the country. as rick wilson pointed out in his substack this morning, it's all good until donald trump says i'm going to need 5% of blue origin's profits and i'm going to need don jr. and eric to get board seats and lara to become editor in chief of "the washington post." it's all good until he says i'm taking this business because i don't like what you said about me at a dinner party. they think they can control these autocrats, but ask the oligarchs around putin how well that goes. >> or ask president vaughn hinder brg in germany who appointed hitler chancellor in 1933 after hitler won a minority share of the vote, and he appointed him chancellor because he thought he could control him. from 1933 until 1943, that's
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what happened to germany, because they had enablers and powerful people who said this person is a useful idiot. we'll take care of this. we might have to suffer through a few bad things but we're going to control this person. the same thing is happening and i'm actually surprised with bezos. i know bezos is a wealthy guy and he doesn't care about the average person. i know all that, but i thought when he first invested in "the washington post," he had an interest in preserving journalism. it turns out i think when we trace this back, i don't think that was his interest. i think his interest was buying the largest newspaper in washington, d.c. so he could have influence over the levers of power. >> yeah, indeed. and he also controls amazon, which is a huge job creator but also low paid jobs and they fight unions. he's got lots of interest in having a good friend in the white house whose brain is mush so he can be the more powerful of the two. matthew dowd, thoung. up next, with early voter
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morevote ce early voting starting. that means a third of the state's registered voters have cast their ballots. yesterday, more than 1,000 religious leaders issued a statement endorsing kamala harris. bishop barber, leader of moral
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mondays and someone who has worked tirelessly to get everyone, especially the poor and low wage workers to be heard, also endorsed the vice president in his personal capacity. he writes in a moment like this, i am compelled to be clear that every voter must make a choice. my choice is to oppose the dangerous politics that donald trump has released. bishop barber joins me now. he's co-chair of the poor people's campaign and author of white poverty. talk about why you decided in your personal capacity to endorse vice president harris. >> when you see, joy, that you have a fascist like insurrection immigrant-hating, mean, while, hurtful, hateful, racist, women's health stealing, union busting leadership in the open with the posse and can imagine
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what they're doing behind the scenes. when you see trump that says 7.25 minimum wage is too high and harris wants to raise to 15 in the union. when trump wants to roll back healthcare and harris wants to save it and expand it. when trump wants to support and does support voter suppression and harris supports even more voter expansion and when trump inherited an obama economy and blew it by giving out 2 trillion tax cuts to the rich and wants to expand the economy he and biden have been working on. finally, when trump has not even said the word poor and yet harris has said i have a plan to end 60% of child poverty. there can be no middle ground. in fact, joy, i think i was talking to you one day and i said this hit me really hard. if you go to proverbs chapter 6
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and read the seven things god hates, all seven are done almost every day by trump and his followers with no repentence. >> let's talk about north carolina. president obama won it by about 14,000 votes in 2008 then lost it by about 92,000 votes in 2012. and then joe biden lost the state by about 74,000 votes. the guy who's running for governor right now calls himself allegedly a black nazi but he's also sending text messages out saying hey, make me the first black governor. how does that impact the race and how is in your view harris' strategy working in north carolina? or not working or what do you think? >> well, first of all, robinson says you know, we learned long time ago that you don't just look at skin color. you look at policy positions and on that, he is just in the
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dumps. vice president harris has traveled the state and she didn't make the mistake of just going to charlotte and greensburg. she sent surrogates in the east and that's critical. in early voting, look at the numbers. moral monday fall for that early voting registration. we held on to it when the races tried to take it away. we went to jail, sued, did everything we had to and obama in 2008, he lost on election day but won during same-day registration and early voting. there is an energy in the state. these states are not red or blue. they're unorganized. when you focus like a laser on organizing and particularly on how to move important low wage people and everybody else. there were a million poor low wage people that didn't vote last time and data tells us that if just 7% of those people voted this time, they outdistance the margin of victory in the last presidential election. >> how does the hurricane of the
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aftermath impact the early vote and vote overall? >> first of all, thank god that we have same-day registration and early voting because though the hurricane was horrific and we're still trying to recover, people don't just have one day. so they can recover but they can still exercise their right to vote. they know who's been there for them. and that's critical that they have these, think about they didn't have any other days. it was just one day. and i won't folk to understand, joy, in north carolina, you can register and vote the same day. a few weeks ago, a student, 70% were unregistered. they registered and voted the same day. >> there you go. that is called progress. bishop william barber, thank you, my friend. much appreciated. we'll be right back. much apprecd we'll be right back.
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