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my mom just called during commercial break to let me know the yankees lost. at night for new york but a good night to be with you. that does it for us. i wish you a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. we will see you again tomorrow. okay, everyone, we are eight days out and right now vice president kamala harris is wrapping up a big rally in ann arbor, michigan, and the closing days of this campaign, she's trying to make the contrast as clear as she can. >> we understand the opportunity that we have before us to turn the page on the fear and
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divisiveness that have characterized our politics for a decade because of donald trump. we have an opportunity to turn the page and chart a new and joyful way forward where we tap into the ambitions. and, we will tap into the ambitions and the aspirations and the dreams of the american people. let's be clear. we are here because we are fighting for a democracy, and for the right of people to be heard and seen. we are not about the enemy within. we know we are in this together, and that's what we're fighting for. >> that was vice president kamala harris speaking at a campaign rally in ann arbor, michigan, just moments ago.
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she is just wrapping that up. she offered quite a contrast with the headlights you may have seen from the rally trump held in madison square garden last night. overall, since i hope you didn't spend your sunday night watching it, the rally was basically six hours of racist hate speech. that's my quick summary with a brief interlude that included an awkward interaction. i encourage you to watch a between melania trump and her husband, exuding the level of warmth you might feel between distant cousins who don't particularly like hanging out at family gatherings. beyond that it was racist and hate filled. the coverage of the rally has largely revolved around two things. first, a racist comedian who was part of the program before trump spoke who said some truly vile things, targeting latinos, calling puerto rico a floating island of garbage. miking black people, jewish people, palestinians, really horrible stuff.
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none of this should be surprising. trump has built for himself quite a body of racist and seen a phobic work. we are showing a couple of the headlines. overall, the reaction to last night has been good for the harris team because it sparked an outcry even though it's not surprising. the truth is, like harris said today, it's nothing new. >> i think last night, donald trump event at madison square garden highlighted a point to have been making throughout this campaign. he is focused and fixated on his grievances, on himself, and done dividing the country. this is not new about him. what he did last night, it's not a discovery. it is more of the same and maybe more vivid than usual. donald trump spends full-time trying to have americans point their fingers at each other.
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it fans the fuel of hate and division, and that's why people are exhausted with him. that's why people who formerly supported trump are supporting me. voting for me. >> sure. it might've been more vivid, as she said. it adds another reminder. eight days out from the election of exactly who trump is. the harris team didn't waste time putting an ad on the air saying that. >> a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. i think it's called puerto rico. >> puerto rico. >> i will never forget what donald trump did he abandon the island and offered nothing more than paper towels and insults. puerto ricans deserve better. as president, i will always fight for you and your families and together, we can chart a new way forward. >> now, besides the racism in
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those six hours, the other big headline this seemed to emerge from last night is about a secret plan. trump said he has with his little buddy speaker of the house mike johnson. >> i think with our little secret, we will do really well with the house. our little secret is having a big impact. he and i have a secret. will tell you what it is when the race is over. >> in the two major takeaways from a six hour long big closing message rally eight days out from election day or about how racist you are and speculation of your secret plans to steal an election it's pretty clear you don't have a lot going for you. at the end of the day, it's very revealing of what trump and his team are thinking right now. it tells us they think they can win it like this. they think they can close on racism and fear and hate. they think that will win and will work. if that doesn't work, don't you worry. trump has a secret plan with mike johnson.
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that is what last night told us. hatred is a closing message and conspiring with mike johnson seems to be the backup plan. joining me is conservative attorney george conway, political white house correspondent eugene daniels, and former spokesman for hillary clinton. i will say the vibes over here -- you are a journalist and you do not have vibes. these are pretty calm. okay. let me ask. i gave my summary. it is eight days, nine days yesterday. what does the rally tell you about trump? >> it's more of the same except he is accelerating and getting worse. people around him are getting worse because they're catering to his desires. the comedian was a perfect warm- up act for him. you saw the headlines you put up there before. he is the guy who said we should trade puerto rico for greenland because puerto rico is full of dirty people. he talked about haiti as a --
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country. people said hold on the republicans denied it. he didn't say that. he used a different -- right. he said, he had the screwed remark about watermelons the other night. needless to say he wanted guys with yarmulkes counting his money and not lack guys. he has been all over. this is racism. is a racist. he called me once moon face. he is a complete racist. >>, this is the notion that this is new were walking away from it, give me a break. let me ask you. it is hard in these campaigns at all times for certainly the last week and running against donald trump, which i been in these rooms a week out running against donald trump. it's like evil welcome to. what you respond to and what
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you do not. what discussions if you are the harris campaign watching what trump is doing, knowing with their proactive messages, what are you deciding day to day? >> he is helping that process along. if someone came out of an induced coma yesterday and they had to decide who to vote for in the next couple of days, this is a great encapsulation of it all. last night, in six hours, it's the perfect reflection of the last, not just six years but nine years, since he started his campaign by knocking criminals coming from mexico. today, we saw the clips you have of vice president kamala harris is talking about the future, talking about looking forward. it was interesting. i don't know why, probably because i spent too much time on these, but i went back and read the debate transcript from last month. you know what work trump never
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uses? future. i started thinking. i don't remember seeing it. he's too busy rewriting the past. that's what we see in nights like last night. i will skip to tomorrow. the vice president will stand close to where we are, talking about what happened on january 6. that's an incredible reminder of this is a choice between two people. if he gets elected, he will pick up where he left off. applauding people who overran the capitol. left off where he was doing everything he could to throw out ballots, basically. to answer your question, this 72 hour window or 48 hour window is putting her best foot forward and his accurate foot forward. we all need to realize that donald trump's true enemy is in his head. we should be thankful for it
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because it's great he cannot pretend he's anything else. i think what's funny is his team is been happy how last night went. let's do a rally every night for the next eight days. i will chip in. >> you can air it on your feet. let me ask you, the speech tomorrow night, there are always -- you can say it's a closing message but there are many closing messages of a campaign. if you look at what they're doing on tv, the harris campaign is a split between abortion, economy and turning the page. what are you hearing about the speech tomorrow night? what should we be expecting? >> it's going to be for a lot of voters, introduction of harris, she still has to do that bio work and she will talk about donald trump. the way she's done it, a longer speech -- >> i heard it would be personal. >> it's not just going to be
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just about january 6. what we have seen as her campaign is come to this end she started not talking about donald trump that much. what her campaign and what she's feeling is they feel he is getting worse and darker. in their eyes. objectively, his words are getting worse. and getting darker. when you look at his speeches, and we did a check, 20 of his speeches darker, more racist language, more xenophobic than we've ever seen before. experts watch these things and you will hear that from her. something she loves to say, calling that a. it's gotten darker and gotten worse. you don't have to choose to live like this. one thing she loves to point out is he does not talk about you, the people. >> you heard her say that tonight. a lot of the approach you have been taking, george, you have along with her.
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appealing to conservative republicans like yourself are independence for moderates or people who may not always check the box for democrats by having liz cheney out there and talking about democracy. what do you think his personal in her background compelling? >> i think all of its compelling. her personal background is compelling because of the contrast with donald trump. everything she's talking about is compelling because of the contrast with donald trump. it's wonderful to see how they're closing this campaign with these attacks on donald trump. we told you so. you go back four years, you had the lincoln project pointing out, this guy is bad. he is bad. he is bad. it's important to do with this guy because he is bad. we tend to get used to how bad he is, and that's the reason why he is still existing the way he
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does. we have gotten so used to him. he kind of receded from the scene for a couple of years because after january 6, but now we see him in his full glory and is under more pressure antes crazier and more noxious and more dangerous. >> it is important that donald trump runs like he was never president. like he does not have a record. whatever the phenomena is of people having not so terrible memories of his first term, it's very dangerous that they think that way. they think, we have seen that movie. i can live with it for four more years. it's not the same movie. it's the sequel to scream where it's that much bloodier. the trajectory his son -- >> were sectors. >> the trajectory with his thoughts, language, his health, if he got elected a year from now, joe biden would have the biggest i told you so laugh in
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american history. that is what people have to think about. not the guy who throws paper towels sometimes. that's funny. that stupid. whatever. this guy is saying what he wants to do. i have been sued once in my life, and it was by donald trump. there are people, you are journalist, we might be sharing a cell in six months from now. people laugh it off but it's not funny. they need to listen to what he is saying and they need to realize this time that there is an apparatus around him. it is more competent and more focused than 2016. they were the gang that couldn't shoot straight when they first came in the white house. now, they have learned. they have also learned how to make him marginal. they will get the things done that they want such as project 2025 and he will say go ahead. >> there were no plans eight years ago. >> the people in the white house were trying to stop him
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from his worst impulses. john kelly. people in the white house that were running the traps and not giving him the paperwork because he wanted to change something they knew was illegal or bad for the country are bad for the headlines for him. those folks are not around anymore. the people who could rain and donald trump's worse impulses, and everybody has them. the things they want to do. everybody has impulses. impulses they want to do into think, that's not a good idea. he doesn't have that and now he is so angry. you talk to people around him and they say he's so angry and they're not sure how serious he is about the things they are saying. take him seriously. >> kamala harris would say, watch him and he might say watch me as well. it's a crazy thing about this. george conway, eugene gm was, philippe reines. i will project that at the people. kamala harris wrapped up a
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what happened on that stage at madison square garden last night was another reminder to me of trump's racist view of the world. nothing was surprising. of course, his campaign spent much of the day absurdly trying to distance trump from the comedian who derided puerto rico as a, quote, floating island of garbage. during a rally today in wisconsin, j.d. vance, his running mate reaction was about what you would expect. >> i haven't seen the joke. you know, maybe it's a stupid racist joke as you said or maybe it is not. i haven't seen it and will not comment on the specifics. i think we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing in the united states of
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america. i am over it. >> hear that everyone? j.d. vance is so over it. case closed, i guess. joining music communication director for the harris/walz campaign michael taylor who is not sleeping much and eating bad pizza and who knows what else. winding through the final days. i want to get your reaction to that comment from j.d. vance that we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing because he is over it. nothing was a surprise but it was a reminder. what you make of j.d. vance's comments. >> first of all, thank you for having me. you are right about the lack of sleep in the gluttony of pizza. it has been the diet of late. he says people are sick of it. people are sick of what they sought madison square garden. you have been through the litany of the racist hate filled rhetoric you heard before even donald trump took the stage. the tone was set.
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what you saw was the cementing of what is essentially donald trump and j.d. vance's closing argument. nothing more than more hate, more fair, or division. what is as important as what you did not hear at all in madison square garden which was a single solution to improve the lives of the american people. for us, over the course of the final eight days of this campaign, that's the contrast we are going to present to that slice of the electorate that is undecided, still deciding who they are going to vote for if they will vote at all. you have one campaign and donald trump's and j.d. vance which is about fear and division and all about serving donald trump and his interest at the expense of the market people and on the other side is the vice president will layout, somebody who is offering the american people in way forward. we can turn the page on what we sought madison square garden and have leadership that's focused on solving the problems of the american people.
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that is what she will do when she walks in the oval office every day. >> every day of the campaign matters, but it matters in the final days. tomorrow, the vice president is giving a speech at the ellipse. a lot of people thinks it will be a speech about january 6. what will the speech be about? what do you hope people will take away from it? and it will be more personal. tell us what we should watch for? >> the backdrop of the speech does matter. it is about the building the vice president will be standing in front of. on january 20, one of the two candidates will be sitting behind the resolute desk inside the white house. if it's donald trump is the vice president said, he will walk in every day looking to cross off his enemies list. he has talked about what he wants to do if he regains power. going after the enemies within. as he said again last night. the vice president will walk into the oval office every day
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with her to do list. focused on solving the problems and speaking to the aspirations and dreams and hopes of the american people every day. getting to work. to lower the cost of groceries and housing, health care. restoring women's reproductive rights since trump ripped them away. making sure we speak to entrepreneurs across the country who are looking to innovate and grow their businesses and communities across the country. that is the vision she will layout in contrast to trump. we know the harm he caused on january 6 but it's about the harm he caused every single day when he was sitting behind the resolute desk looking out for nobody but himself. that's a fundamental contrast for voters trying to make up their minds with eight days out. the vice president is prepared to lay out the vision and the american people are ready to receive it and elect her up president. >> what i'm hearing from you is its broader and more forward- looking. i appreciate you joining us in
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a busy time. i hope you can sleep. better pizza. thank you so much. it turns out michelle obama and her husband are still pretty good at this campaigning thing. i been a lot of campaign events with both. my old boss is speaking in philadelphia and sounded off and donald trump's rally at madison square garden. we will show you that. senator elizabeth warren is standing by to talk about the closing messages from kamala harris and donald trump and she joins me after a quick break. u their very liberal rates on idle cash. they would descend into chaos.
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we have learned a lot from the harris/walz campaign about fascism in the threat trump poses to american democracy, for good reason. anyone living in a swing state, harris is running ads focused on abortion rights and the economy, contrasting her positive vision with trump's plans to cut taxes for the super rich. here is one airing tonight when the pittsburgh steelers play in monday night football. >> i define it is somebody who bleeds black and gold works hard and cares about their family and their hometown. donald trump does not care about the working man. whatsoever. he's not looking out for my family. talking of giving tax breaks to millionaires and cello working families to pay for it. cut our health care. cut our social security. he's a rich kid.
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a silver spoon boy donald trump. how is he relatable to me whatsoever? the guy literally lives in a country club. do i look like a country club guy? >> joining me, and i know something about economic vision who was good about communicating about these issues, democratic senator elizabeth warren. i know you are not a steelers fan. what did you make of that ad drying the contrast on the economic choice here in the selection eight days out? >> those guys nailed it on the economics. they got it so right. i don't think i can improve on it. they true the contrast, and they really show they understand who donald trump is. this guy lives at a country club. come on, he never had to save money for a down payment for a house. he is in somebody who is worried about what it will cost
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to have the car repaired. he is a guy who watches out for what he says are his rich as hell donors and his economic plan is to cut taxes even more for billionaires and who will end up paying for that? middle-class families. donald trump has said it. project 2025 says it. j.d. vance says it. believe them. that is where we go to the contrast with kamala harris. she is somebody who is fighting for working families. she has a real plan to do that. >> absolutely. are you okay, senator? we need your voice out there the next several days. as long as you are okay, let me ask. there are eight days left. >> i am fine. >> last night, i hope you
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weren't watching this, but we've been talking about trump's rally last night. the headlines that emerged about a racist comedian. about a secret plan he has with mike johnson. it raised for me, you are waking -- working your tail off to get, lot harris selected. it's about preparing people for the things he may try to do if and when she win. what are your preparing for. there are reports of burning ballot boxes today. we heard about the secret plan. what are you preparing for in that moment? >> i look at it this way. we have lanes we need to work in. there are group of people who are working to make sure the election integrity is followed. who are ready to fight the battles over republicans who were trying to deny access to the vote or deny what happens
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when people vote. our job right now is to focus on getting that boat out. getting people to the polls. making democracy work. understand this. the best way that we can prepare against whatever terrible things donald trump wants to try to do is to run up the biggest margins we can, in every single state in the country, to make it clear they american people do not buy donald trump's version of the world. that the american people want to see women able to make their own health care decisions, and they will vote for that. and want to see an economy that works from the middle out. economy that works where we take on price gouging. where we lower cause for family. where there is an opportunity for young people to buy a home and where we make the
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investments in universal childcare. we need to show that by showing up and voting and getting our cousins and friends and our uncles and everybody to come and vote. we do that, that's a best way to ensure the strength of our democracy. >> what a powerful message. nobody is powerless. the american people get to decide on most states you can vote even now. senator elizabeth warren, i am grateful for you for joining me tonight. we will show you what barack obama said moments ago but donald trump's rally at madison square garden. then we will talk about it with the obama adviser, pat save america, tommy and that's coming up next.
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it's been 10 years working for the obamas there two campaigns and presidential terms, now we are getting daily reminders of the fact that they are both very good at this. over the weekend, michelle obama made a impassioned plea to man on this issue of abortion rights. donald trump wind advisory is really about how nasty she was. that tells you a lot. here is president obama and philadelphia completely letting loose on donald trump's racist hate filled maga rally at madison square garden. >> the man holds this be rally at madison square garden.
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the warm up speakers were saying the most, were trotting out and peddling the most racist, sexist, bigoted stereotypes. one guy called puerto rico, quote, an island of garbage. these are fellow citizens he is talking about. here in philadelphia, they are your neighbors. they are your friends. they are your coworkers. their kids go to school with your kids.
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these are americans. >> joining me is tommy vietor oh worked with barack obama when he was is senator andy work from the white house for many years and is now cohost of pat save america. how are your vibes this close to the election? >> unbelievably anxious. barely sleeping. just a mess, generally. how about you? >> that is not lifting me up. let me ask you this. we both worked for barack obama. we know how good he is but one of the things you decide on a campaign is how to use people like him. it's not moving everybody who likes him, but talk about what they want out of him? maybe they want him to do that
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but i think they want him to excite and engage people and get them off their couches. what do they want? >> i feel that way every october in an election. i think barack obama is the most popular democrat elected official in the party. he is someone who can get out a big crowd, rally the faithful come and convince democrats to get out to vote if they have not already. he has been speaking directly to african american voters. i think is someone who has known kamala harris for a long time. in an election where he appendicitis when voters saying they need more information about her, he can credential her. he can say when i was president, she was a senator and she fought me to be tougher on banks because that is who she is. when she was california attorney general. it's a combination of messages. >> you may agree but michelle
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obama might even be better than barack obama. if you watch the rally, they're both good, and i mentioned this and we texted about this, her message appealing to men on abortion rights. a lot of what she said is appealing. i know for you this is personal. it was powerful and i think people underestimate the broad audience of people who care about it. i know her remark struck you. >> this eight minute section at the end of her speech was about the stakes of the debate over women's reproductive health care freedom for women and men in the country. i thought it was incredibly powerful. i never heard a politician speak that way, but as someone who has experienced pregnancy loss with my wife, as someone who has been in a doctor's room when you get the most devastating news imaginable, to
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then imagine a scenario where a doctor says they cannot provide her life-saving care until she is on death florist or because of trump's abortion ban? that was powerful emotionally. that is something a lot of men need to think through. it's not a choice. it's not something that is rare. complications happen to a lot of people and the consequences can move quickly and be deadly. she laid out the stakes in a way i thought was incredibly emotional and powerful. i hope it reaches a lot of people. >> a lot of people wouldn't be comfortable talking about it. that's powerful. let me ask you, there's so little time left. the vice president is giving a big speech tomorrow night. it is a choice to do a choice at the ellipse. it's a powerful message. there is expectations it will be about january 6 but i don't
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think it will be. what's the most powerful thing she can do in that speech tomorrow. you been part of these crafting a message at and final closing arguments. >> i think speech will be the frame is at the ellipse and that will be the context to which it's reported on. i think it will be bigger. you are trying to frame a choice. everything has to be a contrast about kamala harris will fight for you and care about you and try to make your life better versus what donald trump will do. the way is more focused on sucking up to corporations that will give him big checks, billionaire donors who want a tax cut. she has to hammer home the choice and she has to fill in what is left of the information gap about her. people want to know about her values and where she's from. there's a lot of people that just haven't thought about this election yet.
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that's impossible for people like us to fed them at times, but there's these late breaking undecided voters would think, i don't know who i will vote for? these last messages are critical for reaching out. >> our old friend and boss said tablecloth, 4% which is hard to fathom. tommy is always freaking out in october. it is great to see you. we will be listening to next several episodes. multiple palid drop boxes were set on fire today. i repeat, multiple palid drop boxes were set on fire today. eight days out from the election and it's crazy to say that out of. marc elias standing by enjoins me next. me next.
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early this morning, police in portland oregon responded to reports of an incendiary device set off inside a sidewalk ballot box. luckily, fire suppressant inside the ballot box protected virtually all the ballots. only three were damaged. soon after, fire was reported in portland. police in neighboring vancouver, shortly after that happened, police in vancouver responded to another fire at another ballot box. according to the county, hundreds were destroyed. the police say the investigation is being handed over to the fbi. officials say the two are likely connected. this is not all happening in a vacuum. these incidents are the latest examples of how elections in america have become the target of violence and disruption in
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the week of the 2020 election. since 2020, officials and election workers have day-old with exponential in violent threats. it's led them to implement new security measures at polling places across the country including armed guards, bullet bruce glass and increased surveillance and panic buttons. needless to say it's a lot to watch ahead of this election and a lot to be eyes wide open about. joining me is marc elias, the founder of democracy docket and is watching all of this and we are grateful for you for joining us. i want to start with the gold -- the gold to me seems it's not done by defenders of democracy, would suspect. it seems it is to throw question into whether the ballots were counted out there. what do you think the goal was and is something you were anticipating? >> we will wait to see what the investigation shows. this is not happening in a
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vacuum. we have been watching for four years an attack, a rhetorical attack on ballot drop boxes. in-state after state after state republicans have tried to remove the. they tried to legislate them out of existence and tried to sue to get rid of them. all because they don't like the fact that people return the ballots in a secure metal container. this is insanity what we have been seeing. in 2022, we saw armed vigilantes with video cameras sticking out ballot drop boxes in some places, clearly in my view with effort to intimidate people from returning ballots. in 2024, and it looks like it's escalated. the fact is people should have confidence that if they vote, their vote will count, and that is the case. the fact it's taking place in washington state and oregon, two states have bipartisan support for vote by mail in
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ballot drop boxes is more disturbing. these folks are not going to win it. the people attacking voting will not win. people have confidence in their voting and i'm confident law enforcement while the people who did this to account. >> report suggests these were connected and we will wait for the conclusion, but as you're planning for the next eight days, are you anticipating that this could be attempted in other places around the country? >> like i said. we have been planning for and expecting challenges around vote by mail, run the country. just today, the nevada supreme court handed a loss to the republican national committee. that was my law firm involved in that. resolve the republican national committee go to the u.s. supreme court today to try to prevent pennsylvania ruling that facilitates people who made errors with her mail-in ballots. as i mentioned, we've seen this unprecedented effort to
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restrict ballot drop boxes and in some instances either threaten his violence around the. it is not unexpected but here ty offices if they need a new ballot so there is responsible action taken. marc elias, you're so much on your plate and thank you for joining us and explaining this to us. i have one more thing to tell you about. tell you about.
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no. it's just sweet is what he said. there's a certain symbolism in seeing as sitting president cast the last ballot before leaving office and not because it's a literal vote of confidence in his chosen successor but it's because it's ordinary. american president may be the most powerful person in the world, but they still vote like everybody else. that includes registering, showing up, and filling out a ballot like everybody else. in biden's case it meant waiting in line like everybody else. that is the commander-in-chief biding his time. he was chatting with locals and posing with photos and helping to push a woman's wheelchair as he waited to exercise his most fundamental right. if that's not all examples of american democracy, and that's very joe biden to push the woman in the wheelchair, i don't know what is. that does it for me tonight.
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the rachel maddow show starts right now. hey, rachel. >> i love that image, those photos of president biden today. waiting in line. there or is part of me who thinks nobody should have to wait in line to vote, but if any of us do, seeing the president do it is a democratic thing. >> the most powerful man in the world is a thing others do to exercise their right. >> that is right. a citizen like all of us. thank you. much appreciated. thank you for joining us. tomorrow night, kamala harris will give her prime time speech . tomorrow night, when we got from election night. it will be live from the ellipse in front of the white house which is a good choice as a setting if for no other reason that we like to imagine political speeches from the ellipse that do not end in the politician behind the podium.
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