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vice president kamala harris's message tonight at the scene of donald trump's january 6th, 2021 speech before the horrific attack on the capitol. her case to voters that it's time to turn the page. and star-studded. michelle obama's message to young first-time voters in swing state georgia right before early voting closes this week there. the big celebrities she's bringing along with her. plus trump's pr problem. donald trump heading to a rally tonight right in the middle of a puerto rican neighborhood in battleground pennsylvania. after racist comments at his msg event are still making headlines two days later. and biden's billion-dollar boost. the president will speak any minute now in baltimore where he will announce a massive $3 billion for u.s. ports to invest in climate-friendly equipment and infrastructure. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. but we start just hours from what could be the biggest event

of kamala harris's campaign and her career. the speech in d.c. tonight. nbc's yamiche alcindor is there. what do we know, yamiche? >> reporter: well, vice president harris is getting ready to lay out what she and her campaign is saying is going to be an optimistic and upbeat vision for america. she's going to be talking about her to-do list versus what she calls former president donald trump's enemies list. she's going to be talking about the fact that if elected she will usher in freedoms and restore freedoms like abortion rights across this country but that her chief priority would be making sure she's lowering costs for americans, thinking about the economy. she's also going to be talking about doing things like cutting taxes and also increasing housing across this country. and then she's going to be saying that donald trump is a threat to democracy. and of course she's going to be delivering that speech standing exactly where he stood at the ellipse, which is really the back yard of the white house, on january 6th, where of course before his supporters went and broke into the capitol, which was of course the u.s. capitol attack. she has talked about why she

chose this location and also what she's thinking about the speech. take a listen to what she said in an interview just recently. >> look, i'm about to give a speech tuesday night at the ellipse in front of the white house, and part of what i will be talking about is there is going to be a new president on january 20th of next year and it's either going to be donald trump or it's going to be me. and i would ask people to imagine the oval office. people have seen it on tv. you know what it looks like. it's either going to be donald trump sitting behind that desk, writing out his enemies list of who he's going to seek revenge and retribution on, or it's going to be me working on behalf of the american people as i always have done, working on my to-do list. >> reporter: so the vice president, as she just said there, is really going to say this is a stark choice. it's either going to be former president donald trump, someone she has called a fascist, and she's going to point out

republicans who worked for him, like former chief of staff general john kelly said he was a fascist, said he was someone who talked about adolf hitler and wanting generals like hitler had. she's going to say that is a threat to american democracy and problematic. and she's going to say her vision is one where all americans are going to be able to be living in a better country, with a better vision for what she can do and help americans really deal with and navigate their lives. and her campaign says she's going to be focused on trying to talk specifically to persuadable voters, even some voters who maybe in the last few days because there have been comments targeting puerto ricans, racist comments that happened at that madison square garden rally. her campaign saying they're even going to be targeting voters who might be changing their mind because of that. we're expecting something like 20,000 to 40,000 people here, maybe even more the campaign says. chris? >> yamiche alcindor, thank you for that. now to former first lady's star-studded when we all vote rally in georgia tonight.

nbc's aaron gilchrist is on the ground there for us. the rally focuses on first-time voters, and what are we expecting? >> reporter: well, chris, we're already seeing a few people get in line outside this basketball arena behind me here. hours before the doors will open for that rally tonight. as you said, this is being organized by when we all vote. that's the non-profit that former first lady michelle obama created back in 2018. the mission for that organization was to get people registered to vote, to teach people about their civic responsibility. so the organizers have said tonight's gathering is really about celebrating first-time voters in particular and mobilizing first-time voters. as you noted, this will be a star-studded affair. the former first lady will be the headline speaker late in the evening. but before her we expect to see the likes of shonda rhimes, kelly rowland, rita wilson, marseille martin and many others as well. there will be some musical performances as well. the idea is to get people jazzed, to get people excited about the idea of voting.

here in georgia already more than 3 million ballots have been cast. over 42% of active voters in georgia have voted before early voting ends on friday. we expect to hear the former first lady say -- to congratulate the people who've already voted and encourage those who haven't to make a plan. it's worth noting too that this is not an event that's connected to the harris campaign although several of the speakers including the former first lady have endorsed vice president harris. we do know we'll see the former first lady on the campaign trail again for the vice president on saturday. she'll travel to pennsylvania to hit the campaign trail again to encourage people to vote for vice president harris. >> aaron gilchrist. thank you for that. now to pennsylvania, where donald trump is about to focus on the economy for the second time today. nbc's shaquille brewster is live from drexel hill. what are we expecting there? >> reporter: well, chris, we're expecting this conversation to be focused on the economy and a focus on seniors. i don't know if you can see the

stage behind me, but there's actual tables and multiple seats set up. it seems as if this is going to be more of ai roundtable discussion rather than a standard stump speech that we can expect to see later today when he goes to allentown, pennsylvania. but he started the day at mar-a-lago in florida where he had a range of top ukz, talked about a range of things but really had very serious attacks against vice president harris, seeming to almost prebut her speech later today. he mentioned immigration a lot, talked extensively about the biden-harris record on immigration. he talked about other issues like inflation. he talked about the economy seemingly trying to not have her get credit for the positive economic indicators that you're seeing right now. i want you to listen to a little bit of that section of his remarks. >> our economy is not -- it's like a fake economy. some of the best -- some of the best people on wall street are saying the economy's only good because they think -- i don't

want to say this because other people have said it. it's not me saying it. but they think trump is going to get elected. that's the only reason our economy's good. >> reporter: now, he opened his remarks saying that while he feels good about the state of the election he said that there are some bad spots in pennsylvania, seemingly referring to an investigation going on in the state looking into about 2,500 possibly fraudulent absentee -- or i should say voter registration applications that were caught in the system. the secretary of the commonwealth here saying that's an example of the system working. it was through a routine process that caught these applications and stopped them and that any legitimate voter should be able to cast their ballot in the state, chris. >> shaquille brewster, thank you very much. we're going to take a quick look at what's happening in maryland. this is governor wes moore. he's kind of warming up for joe biden, who is going to talk about the president's investing in america agenda.

that's how the white house describes it. and in fact, nbc's mike memoli is there in baltimore. tell us about this initiative. what it means for the white house but maybe also how it plays into the campaign, mike. >> reporter: well, chris, the president going to be making a major announcement. $3 billion for ports across the country to help them reduce their carbon emissions through things like the purchase of electric cargo loading equipment. this is an investment that's coming from the inflation reduction act, one of the president's hardest-fought legislative victory. and the white house said this will create tens of thousands of jobs at these ports across the country. this is the kind of an announcement this close to the election that the president could have made, for instance, at the port of philadelphia, battleground pennsylvania, which is getting $80 million from this $3 billion pie. or maybe port of savannah in georgia which is getting about $50 million from it. instead he's doing this in baltimore in the state of maryland, a true blue state, not a battleground state, which really does speak to the fact that the president is at this stage of the campaign playing a more limited role on behalf of

the vice president. but we are hearing from the local officials here behind me. we're not far from the key bridge of course which chanced just a few months ago about how effective the federal response has been, how important these investments are in supporting communities, especially communities of color here. the biden administration, the white house believes that good governance is good politics for the vice president. and we will see the president hitting the campaign trail later this week. he's going to be in philadelphia on friday talking about the importance of unions. and you know this was going to happen. he's heading to his home town of scranton on saturday, chris. >> mike memoli, thank you for that. and when we're back in 90 seconds, former president trump heading to a part of pennsylvania that's home to nearly half a million puerto ricans. the reaction from voters to the racist comments made at his rally in new york city. >> wrong place wrong time. several days left to election. and i'm not changing my vote. >> i don't understand why these people are voting for him because he doesn't have anything to give us. we're in a parade.

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city of allentown -- >> they're hurting. yeah, i'm hurting. >> i'm feeling bad. i'm feeling terrible because that's not true. >> protests are expected ahead of trump's rally, which is at an arena in the middle of the city's puerto rican neighborhood. schools there have been closed out of an abundance of caution. nbc's george solis is on the ground in allentown. brendan buck is a former aide to republican speakers paul ryan and john boehner and an msnbc political analyst. simone sanders townsend is former chief spokesperson for vice president harris and co-host of msnbc's "the weekend." it's good to see all of you. and i know, george, you've been talking to voters there in allentown. what more are you hearing from them? >> reporter: yeah, chris. the consensus here among both groups is the joke simply just was not funny. the difference is those that are still supporting former president trump, those latino voters still supporting him saying look, they understand that this was the comedian's joke and they are adamant that it's not reflecting the views of former president trump. so you actually have people here

on the ground, dominicans for donald trump, puerto ricans for donald trump, and so their stance is we will still support the former president as he speaks here in allentown at the ppl arena. on the other side you have the undecided voters and those voters who just say look, we were looking for some way to decide whether or not we were going to pick either donald trump or kamala harris, this was the nail in the coffin for us, this was the deciding factor, there's no way that we can support someone with this kind of rhetoric, someone who can support someone with this kind of rhetoric. so it has been very interesting talking to these voters and hearing the reasoning why they're still supporting the former president and why those undecided voters, those crucial undecided voters here in the battleground now have some reason to maybe pick vice president kamala harris. it has been no shortage of controversy here even amongst those that are actually here trying to rally against former president donald trump. you have people, latinos themselves saying you're wrong, you're lying, they're fighting -- there's infighting here inside or the ppl arena hours ahead of this arena. and we've started to see more of

the voters here start to gather outside of the ppl arena. again, just listening to some of my doing di log with some of these voters, chris, it is interesting to see how these two groups differ about these comments. take a listen. >> this comment was just like -- felt like it was just targeted, honest to god, i hate to say it, but what else are we going to think of? with little days left to election and trump time -- trump trying to do his best for the latino community, i think it was a total downfall for him to do that. now, i can't speak for all puerto ricans but i can speak for myself. i ain't changing my vote. i know i'm sticking with trump. >> reporter: that voter you heard from there was at msg. he heard the joke there, if you will, and says again, not moving the needle for him. to that said, they are wondering how if at all former president donald trump will address those remarks, what supporters he brings to this rally here tonight and how any other protests here unfold, how that might stir up some controversy

and talking points after those remarks. again, both sides saying not funny, they really do condemn that comedian for saying that about puerto rico. so our ground game here is to keep talking to these voters. keep in mind there are 600,000 eligible voters here in the keystone state, which is why we've seen these campaigns so heavily invested here in pennsylvania trying to get that voting bloc to vote for them. and again, these comments certainly not making grounds for the trump campaign, at least from what we're seeing here talking to some of these voters. we will keep an eye out, chris, to see how this moves the needle if at all. chris? >> george, thank you very much. look, we've talked about this a lot, brendan. donald trump says incendiary things and nothing changes. but politico's reporting that their folks on the ground say this has been spreading like wildfire in pennsylvania. and i wonder if this late in the campaign so targeted, on the same day that kamala harris was unveiling a plan to aid puerto

ricans, does this potentially have an impact? >> it could. look, dumb mistake by the campaign. obviously stupid thing to say. and the harris campaign is right -- she's trying to take advantage of it in a limited way. and there are certainly -- they've already rolled out ads and they're talking directly to latino voters to make sure that they saw this. that said, i want to -- if this is about winning the election, i think it would be a big mistake to allow this to overshadow what she wants to do tonight on the ellipse in washington, her closing message. i think it is a mistake that we've seen democrats make time and time again, which is just following whatever donald trump said and letting him set the tone. even if it's really bad. look, this joke was obviously really stupid. but donald trump has said this kind of stuff himself for years. so it's not that it doesn't matter. i don't want to say like nothing matters. there's a lot of people who have moved away from donald trump

because he is like this. the people who are still undecided, they want to know what you're going to do to make their lives better. that's why i think harris has an opportunity tonight to speak directly to that and not allow some of these other things to distract from it. i think that's the really thing they need to make sure they focus on. if you want to talk to latino voters do that, but don't allow this to become the latest distraction that gets in the way of your affirmative closing message. >> yeah, i think there's two parts to that, important parts. one is what is she doing in the immediate aftermath? and to that end i want to play a little piece of one of the ads that her campaign has put out on this. >> a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. i think it's called puerto rico? >> puerto rico. >> i will never forget what donald trump did. he abandoned the island and offered nothing more than paper towels and insults. puerto ricans deserve better. as president i will always fight for you and your families.

>> the campaign was very fast in turning this controversy around. but to brendan's point what do you think she should focus on tonight? does this get a mention? does it get more than a mention? does she ignore it altogether? >> you know, i think it could potentially make its way into the speech. i'm sure there's a section of the speech where the vice president is going to refer to her opponent and some of the more incendiary comments, if you will, that he has made, the tone, the tenor. she talks about him being unstable and that we need a new way forward and she is the physical representation of the new way forward. i think it could get a mention. but i actually think that given the just resources and the work that has gone into the presentation, if you will, of what tonight is going to be for the vice president that this is

bigger than one particular moment that donald trump or the trump campaign has had. this is more so about the vice president. when melissa and i did our special "black women in america: the road to 2024," one of the conversations that we had was with some of these strategists and architects, if you will, within the democratic party apparatus, black women. and minha moore was one of them. she was the chair of the convention this year. and she said that i thought about as i was looking at the coverage this morning. she said -- she rejects the myth that men, black men and latino men will not support a woman for president. she believes, though, you have to show -- people have to be able to visualize vice president harris as the president, in the presidency. and so tonight vice president harris will be standing literally in front of the white house. the white house will be her backdrop. people will be able to visually see her in that space and she's probably going to ask them to picture her sitting behind the

resolute desk making decisions about them, juxtaposing that with donald trump. so this is about vice president harris, her closing argument to the american people, that is part about the instability of her opponent but it is also more so about what she has planned for america. and i think lots of voters, the donald trump part is not enough for them. they also want to know about the person they're going to vote for. and she i believe is going to give that to them tonight. >> brendan, let's talk voters. nbc news commissioned a focus group of undecided nicki haley voters who were asked about the remarks at the msg rally. and here's how two of them responded. there was a voter from pennsylvania and then another one from north carolina. >> it sucks. it's a terrible reflection on the party. >> does it change your thinking at all? >> i'm not going to vote for harris because of it. it keeps me torn. it keeps me in a place where it

makes me hard to fill in that oval. >> i think it's disgusting. i can't say that it would change my vote. >> one of the things i wonder is if it doesn't make someone change their vote does it make them stay home and if they stay home that's a vote for harris, isn't it? what do you say, brendan? >> yeah, potentially. look, donald trump has done a lot of things that -- opportunities he had that he has just squandered. there were a huge portion of people who are used to voting republican every election. they want to vote republican. they don't want to vote for a democrat. they probably never voted for a democrat. and he has just done everything he can to ignore or alienate those people. and it may end up costing him. look, i think kamala harris is absolutely smart for trying to run down the middle. if only because donald trump completely abandoned the middle. he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

but you see there how hard it is to get some of those people to actually vote for a democrat. that just tells you how torn we are as a country. that's why i think harris needs to speak directly to those people tonight and talk about what she is going to do for them and what potentially she thinks that trump is going to be all out for himself. that's the message that's going to hit those people. your lives will be better with me no matter how uncomfortable you think that it is to vote for a democrat, people who are still hanging out there care about the issues and she'll be smart to focus on those tonight. >> you made the point that this is a campaign that has so many resources. there's a lot of money that's been donated, symone, to her campaign. so she can keep running ads like this. and i think where you think it's most effective. obviously they want those undecided voters. they want maybe some of those nikki haley voters. is it a reminder to some folks who were conflicted and maybe even conflicted in '16 and '20 of the reason they were

conflicted? in a way that some other things weren't. just because it's gotten so much traction. just because it's been dominating google searches. just because wherever you go i don't know where you go but i overhear people talking about this. about what happened at msg. >> yeah, and i mean this comment about -- the derogatory comment about puerto ricans is just one of the many things that happened there. i mean, rudy giuliani said on the stage that palestinian children are taught as young as the age of 2 to hate and kill people. there were derogatory comments made about black people. there were many things said on that stage. someone got on the stage and said i thought i'd just come to the nazi rally. i'm actually shocked they spent money on this. so while yes, this rally is yet another physical man festation, the donald trump rally at msg of many of the issues with a donald

trump candidacy and also a donald trump presidency, but it is not -- this rally is not going to turn the tide of the entire election. it did, though, help the vice president secure some additional endorsements. j. lo, marc anthony and bad bunny, huge stars with huge followings that are puerto rican, they came out only after those comments were made. and it did happen to be on the same day that the vice president unveiled her puerto rican -- her policy for puerto rico. so yes, that is important. but brendan's point about the big picture is also very key here. if you're going to do a closing argument in a campaign that it is going to be close -- i understand people out there don't believe the polls. i think lots of people for both candidates are going to go out to the polls. this is going to be a turnout election. so this is going to be close. there are people that have yet to actually make up their minds. and a closing argument speech like this from the vice president could be the thing that makes someone say you know what? i'm going to vote for her. i'm going to go to the polls

tomorrow and vote for her since there's so much early voting. i think the vice president and her team uniquely understand this. it's my understanding that she is laser focused here. she is running a campaign of no unforced errors. and tonight she wants to speak directly to the people out there to tell them about her and what she would do and what her presidency would mean for america. and i think it's going to be a really powerful moment. i'm looking forward to seeing what she says. >> symone sanders-townsend, brendan buck. good to talk to both of you. you can catch symone on the weekend every saturday and sunday starting at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. you won't want to miss that. coming up, a member of one of the most famous republican families in america throwing her support behind kamala harris, even door knocking for the campaign. you're watching "consumer reports," only on msnbc. c. incoming dishes. —ahhh! —duck! dawn powerwash flies through 99% of grease and grime in half the time. yeah, it absorbs grease five times faster. even replaces multiple cleaning products.

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describing this nikki haley combo event that appears to not be happening during this campaign. no one in either camp, it seems, wants to slam the door on this event, in part because neither side wants to be blamed for it not happening, but time is growing short, logistics growing more complicated, and the sense i get is this is just not going to be something that is going to get done before the voting concludes on election day. i think it shouldn't be terribly surprising when you pull back and look at the broader context here, which is ever since she got out of this race donald trump's team has done very little to try to secure nikki haley's share of the republican vote. they never really did a traditional pivot back toward the center or did a lot to try to capture the kind of more moderate republican voter who might have voted for a mitt romney in the past and nikki haley in this primary but has not gone toward trump. the harris campaign by contrast has tried quite aggressively to chase those voters. more than 100,000 of them here in pennsylvania alone.

but for the trump team time is basically out to make a substantive pivot to go after those voters. and it seems that having haley and trump appear on stage will not be part of any effort to do so. and chris, i think it's also worth noting that we've not seen ron desantis either, trump's other major primary rival, campaigning with trump in some major way in the days' final race. yes, you have vivek ramaswamy. yes, you've had tim scott. but there's not been the kind of rally around the flag opportunity from those two figures in the republican party who may still harbor presidential ambitions of this their own in the future. >> garrett haake, thank you for nap from republican legacy to the democratic campaign trail, barbara pierce bush, daughter of one gop president, granddaughter of another, is campaigning for kamala harris according to an interview with "people" magazine. nbc news campaign embed nnamdi is following this for us. what more can you tell us about

barbara bush's support for kamala harris? >> well, we know that this newfound support has led her to actually door knock for kamala harris's campaign in pennsylvania, telling "people" magazine in a statement that women's rights are among the reasons she decided to support the harris-walz ticket. and that's sort of in line with her policy stances in the past. though she identifies as an independent and has previously opted to not get involved in these races, she has spoken at a planned parenthood fund-raiser for example back in 2017 in texas. and with this endorsement she joins a growing list of republicans that are supporting kamala harris in this race. that includes another first daughter, suzanne ford, the daughter of former president gerald ford who last week endorsed kamala harris's campaign. it also includes the likes of course of liz cheney and her father dick cheney. liz cheney praising this move by barbara bush in a tweet. and it certainly will assist the harris campaign as they work to win over more moderate republicans. they now have the support of the like of former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan, former republican house congressman adam kinzinger, and they're using these voilss to

create a permission structure of sorts that will encourage other republicans, other moderates that maybe disillusioned with donald trump to join their campaign and support her as we close nont presidential race. >> nnamdi, thank you so much for that. and coming up next on "chris jansing reports," governor gretchen whitmer joins us while on a bus tour trying to reach out to voters. the question now is whether the path to victory runs smoothly through michigan or if kamala harris will hit a speed bump. but first, the harris campaign taking over one of the newest and most recognizable attractions in las vegas or anywhere. this is the first political ad ever to play on the sphere. and it's part of a widespread campaign throughout nevada. ♪♪ ♪ forgive me i've been running ♪ ♪ running blind in truth ♪ runn♪ just ask my old friend, kevin. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching the game.

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kamala harris today is doing a big push with local media as part of her closing argument. a harris-walz campaign official says the vice president will do five battleground state tv or radio interviews including one in michigan. that's where a new poll from the detroit news and wdiv tv says vice president harris is up three points. that is within the margin of error. and with just 2% of voters still undecided. my next guest is now on a bus tour trying to reach voters in

this final push. joining me, the democratic governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer, co-chair of vice president kamala harris's presidential campaign. good to see you again, governor. is kamala harris going to win michigan? >> i think so. but chris, we're making -- we're leaving nothing to chance. we're doing the work. we're on the doors. we're making the phone calls. and i think we've got a superior candidate. she's got receipts on the issues that matter to michiganders. but it all comes down to the ground game and i think we've got a superior ground game as well. but it's still going to be a close race. and the margin of error, as you said. >> so close it's keeping you up at night? >> you know, i'm too tired to stay up at night. we're working really hard. the thing about michiganders is we're hard-working, good people. we expect our leaders to be as good if not better and to work as hard if not harder. and kamala harris embodies that. the focus on helping the middle class and ensuring people have affordable places to live, can make their own decisions about

their bodies and onshoring supply chains so everyone gets a good paying job, that's what matters to people and that's what we're out telling people about. >> so for people who aren't familiar with political campaigns, as i said, you're on a bus tour, there are tons of harris buses that are out in battleground states all around the country. what do they accomplish? what do you folks on the bus do? >> well, you know, i just got done with a tour. i was in wisconsin with tony evers and pennsylvania with josh shapiro. we had ten governors join us over the course of our week-long bus tour. we went to 40 places. 2,600 miles. it is about telling -- you know, making sure that people see and hear the message that we're inspiring and encouraging our volunteers to get out and get on the doors and telling the story. and i think when we do it together it's really powerful. and that's why i love a bus tour. it's exhausting but it brings people together and at the end of the day this is a people-powered campaign. >> harris campaign manager jen

o'malley dillon was on msnbc this morning and she said she hopes the vice president or her surrogates are the last people that battleground voters hear from before they vote. do you think with that small sliver in your state, whatever it may be, 2% who haven't decided yet, that could be the difference, literally the last person they talk to? >> i think so. you know, margins are traditionally very slender here in these -- in this state and in the handful of swing states. we know that as powerful as some of the commercials are or as a sitting governor can be persuasive with people, when they hear from a neighbor or a friend or someone who lives in their community or they work with that is incredibly impactful. and that's why it's so important that we are on the doors, we are having the conversations, we're reaching out. there's a seat at this table for everyone. you don't have to be 100%

endorse this agenda. what you do have to be is someone who wants a leader who's going to listen to you, who's going to take in all the information and make the hard decision when the time comes. and listens to you. and i think that's why people like former congressman fred upton who was a dyed in the wool republican came on board just in the last week. same with a former head of the michigan republican party, rusty hills. there's a lot of great people that are republicans who are coming over because they recognize how important this moment is. and there's a seat at the table for everyone. >> there is a growing latino population in michigan. approximately 6% i think. do you think the racist comments that have caught fire from the madison square garden rally will move the needle at all? >> i've got to tell you, i think one of the more distressing things is to watch the trump campaign just vilify fellow americans. how they denigrated puerto rico. but this comes from the top. president trump was here in detroit, michigan talking to leaders in detroit, just

absolutely denigrating the city of detroit. and in the days that followed we saw a huge increase in absentee voters turning their ballots in. so yeah, i do think that it can make an impact. we need a leader who can bring us together, who can see the good in all of us and can put us on a path where every person in this country can become prosperous. that's the goal. and donald trump, all he wants to do is tear us down and make us distrustful of one another and hateful of one another so that it benefits him personally. and that's the opposite of the kind of campaign and leadership that kamala harris offers. >> what do you think, governor, is the most important thing she can say in this closing speech tonight on the ellipse that will resonate with that small number of michiganders who have not yet made up their minds? >> well, you know, she's been talking about the middle class. she has lived a normal life like most of us have. she took care of her mom when she was dying of cancer, just like i happened to.

she moved in and helped her sister raising -- with her kids when she needed some help. i mean, this is what good family members do. donald trump's never lived a life like ours. kamala harris worked an hourly job to help pay her way through school. donald trump doesn't have the foggiest idea what's going on in the average household. and i think staying focused on how we make americans' lives better, how we ensure that every person can live their dream in this country and make their own decisions about their bodies and their futures, that's what she is offering. and i think that's what she will continue to talk about. and i think that's what american people and michiganders love to hear. >> we're out of time but i have to circle back to the first question i asked you. if you were a betting woman, governor, what are the chances kamala harris wins michigan? >> i don't play those games, chris. i appreciate your tenacity. i believe we're going to be successful, but i'm taking nothing for granted. we're going to talk to every michigander we can between now and election day in hopes we can wrap this up. >> governor gretchen whitmer,

thank you. it's good to talk to you again. >> thank you. >> and coming up after the break, j.d. vance's new claim about the greatest generation and normandy. i'll ask historian douglas brinkley for his thoughts. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. arthri. ...with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after trying a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq works differently. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling as fast as 2 weeks for some. and even at the 3-year mark, many people felt this relief. rinvoq can stop further joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur.

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bringing up d-day? >> horrible thing to do. that we have to respect our service men and women of our country. d-day occurred because we were attacked at pearl harbor. why were we attacked? because of isolationist wing republican party wanting nothing to do with the war. it's only fdr and the democrats who mobilized the country to a sense of preparedness to be able to win world war ii, so these men, whether it's at gold beach or at omaha or juneau's sword, of the five beaches there, they were all many were democrats. this was roosevelt's war. they had to get a constitutional amendment to stop fdr, he was so popular in the country. so to then say that these people that were the isolationist soldiers, it's utter nonsense. jd vance knows better. he's trying to shift the

attention away from the madison square garden hate fest. >> one thing that has utgan a lot of attention is what stephen miller said. let me play that. it's very short. >> america is for americans and americans only. >> america is for americans. it invokes the nazi slogan, germany for germans. i was in the arena. it was well received. you could hear the cheers there. is there a real case for comparison, do you think, to 85 years ago? and if that's a fair comparison, germany is for germans, america is for americans. what does that say about our politics? >> it tells you that the trump/vance team know nothing about americans' immigration history. they're really just spinning a kind of authoritarian ideology. many of those people in madison square garden are there for their own reasons. i don't think they think america

for americans is associated with hitler, but miller knows. he loves to sneak in his hitler references any chance he gets. former president trump used to keep, this is from his wife, not melania, but ivanka or the other one, he kept at the bedside speeches of hitler. who keeps hitler speeches by the bedside? so they like that raw meat rhetoric. they see a hitler rally in the '30s and see that's what a trump rally should look like. they're trying to steal stuff from the third reich which in my mind is utterly reprehensible. i don't blame madison square garden. that was a different venue in 1939 and the knicks play madison square, billy joe. >> two popes. >> so the reason i stay away from that, it's a great venue. it's not their problem, but the amount of hate rhetoric that emerged on the last monday

before the final week, the big launch, i think, fizzled largely because they allowed people like miller, the comedian, to have a floor instead of focusing their message on the economy. >> it was ivana trump's book, i think so. doug, great to see you. tell people where you're going to be tonight? can they come? >> new york historical where we're talking about 2024. >> with eddie glaude jr. >> and beverly gauge, who wrote the biography of j. edgar hoover. >> thanks for coming in. >> on a closing night, today, andrea mitchell announced she's stepping down from her anchor chair in the new year. from the first day i arrived at nbc, no one has been more helpful, more supportive, more encouraging, and especially sharing her deep knowledge when we covered stories abroad, including this one. the women of nbc have a strong bond. and she is our fearless leader.

she is extraordinary. now, she is still going to be around because for the election she'll be sitting next to me and katy tur, and she's leaving just the anchor chair next year. so she can have more time to do her amazing reporting. one of the greatest reporters this organization or any organization has ever known. so watch out, world, is what i would say about that. and i just want to add, i cannot wait to see you here on friday and through the election to sit next to you. andrea mitchell, we love you. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every week day from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports, next. good to b.

i'm katy tur. one week until the election. one week, and the conversation is suddenly about seven years ago, as