the sad news is we lost terry gard today. the kind of activist who you load if you never met her and if you did meter you loved her even more. she was a devoted mother to molly, and i hope you can find more time and the time this week on this program to say more about the great terry garr. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. ruhle starts now. trump's women for america first protest to save america rally? no, of course you don't. nobody remembers it by that

name, because that rally will now and forever be remembered as donald trump's january 6th ellipse speech >> these people are not going to take it any longer they're not going to take it we will never give up, we will never concede. it doesn't happen. you don't concede when there's theft. we will not let them silence your voices. we're not going to let it happen. not going to let it happen. all vice president pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people. i think right here we're going to walkng down to the capitol because you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength, and you have to be strong. >> that was the moment that

president trump incited a violent mob to attack the u.s. capitol. the worstu. attack on the seat our government in generations. and the first time an american presidential candidate refused to accept the results of a lujetimate election.ma now, tonight just one week before an election in which trump seeks to return to power, his opponent returned to the scene ofne that crime to lay oua new vision of the country before a crowd of 60,000 people and remind thepe world about who donald trump really is. >> we know who donald trump is. he is the person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to the united states'b capitol to overturn the will of the people in a free and fair election. he says that one of his highest

priorities is to set free the violent extremists who assault those law enforcement officers on january 6th. america, this is not a candidate for president who is thinking about how to make your life better. this is someone who is unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance, and out for t unchecked power. donald trump has spent a decade tryingad to keep the american people divided and afraid of each other. that is who he is. but america, i am here tonight to say that is not who we are. that is not who we are. that is not who we are. >> vice president harris used

the prime time address to lay out an agenda that ranged from lowering the cost of housing and groceries to ensuring access to reproductive choice. but she began these remarks and she ended them by emphasizing theth ideals of america and how thoseam ideals still very much remain at theti heart of the american project. as long as voters choose to protect them. >> nearly 250 years ago america was born when we wrested freedom from a petty tyrant. across the generations americans have preserved that freedom, expanded it, and in so doing proved to the world that a government of, by, and for the people is t strong and can endu.

and those who came before us, the patriots at normandy and selma, seneca falls, and stonewall, on farmlands and factory floors.ct they did not struggle, sacrifice, and lay down their lives onlyay to see us cede our fundamental freedoms. they didn'tee do that only to s us submit to the will of another pettyth tyrant. these united states of america, we are not a vessel for the schemes of wannabe dictators. the united states of america is the greatest idea humanity ever

devised. a nation big enough to encompass all of our dreams, strong enough to withstand any fracture or fissure between us, and fearless enough to imagine a future of possibilities. >> joining me now is congressman jamie raskin, democrat from the great state of georgia. i'm eager to get your thoughts. it was just an extraordinary backdrop. kamala harris, vice president of the unitedes states, standing a the ellipse, which exists in popular imagination as the place where trumpat incited a violent mob to try and subvert democracy. she's standing there tonight saying there united states of america is not a vessel for the schemes of wannabe dictators. what were your impressions after her speech tonight? >> alex, it was a beautifully patriotic speech, and i thought

it traveled expertly at this point in the campaign, and that's c generally when most candidates running a real campaign hit their stride. so she was able to navigate the divide between talking about concrete policy proposals like the child care tax credit and making home care part of medicare, and then soaring idealistic oratory about america and about the democratic project we're all engaged in. and all of it was contrasted periodically with the authoritarian dangers offered by donald trump and the billionaire oligarchs who are now propping up his faltering campaign. so i thought it was a beautiful way to make that final pitch. i know the people in my district in maryland, in the 8th district and throughout maryland and in d.c. and virginia have been just

on fire about getting that speech, and it was a huge massive, overflow crowd, which i'm sure is going to upset and destabilize her opponent. >> he'se obsessed with crowd sizes. 60,000 people in attendance there both at the event proper and fringes of the event. i think you're raising an important point here, congressman, which is this was billed asma the vice president' closing argument about ar democracy. and certainly there was a kind of deeply thoughtful medication onou what america stands for an how resilient we can be in the face ofwe potential tyranny, an actually in thent aftermath of some version of tyranny. but there was also a kind of laundry list of bread and butter economic issues and agenda items that she'd take through from the sandwich generation, home care workers grocery prices, and it seems like the democrats have decided, okay, it's not an

either/or choice. we don't just/o have to talk abt democracy, just have to talk about american economy. we can combine them and a closing argument. is that how you see it before the party closes out this election? >> absolutely. look, that's what democracy is. in democracy government is an instrument for obtaining the common good of all. it's about g talking about home care and people who need to take care of elderly parents.de it's about the child care tax credit and making it possible for young people to purchase their first home.le that isse democracy. it's the system that cares about the common good of the common people as opposed to the vladimir putin, viktor orban, donald trump, kim jong-un version of government, which

issautacrac, plutalkeracy. donald trump is first and foremost a con man who took us for a ride for millions and millions of dollars from foreign states, kings, and princes and oversight democrats released a report on all the foreign government emoluments we could lay our eyes on. andes of course chairman comer d everything to blockade us. but also we found hundreds of thousands of dollars that they got with him charging the secret service and other government agencies. totally unconstitutional to do that. and donald trump says, well, he didn't even take his salary when he was president. that's all you're allowed to take. you're not allowed to take the american taxpayers to the cleaners by shaking down all the federal government agencies and foreign monarchs and despots.

and it's come out during this campaign they'vehi got not just millions of dollars in deals they're making with foreign governments now, but billions of dollars that jared kushner brought back, more than $2 billion from saudi arabia, and he really should be registered as a foreign agent. but those are two radically contrasting forms in government we're talking about. >> wecongressman, you name checd james comer, your republican colleague in the house. and i have to bringou up a commt that former president trump made today about a little secret that he shares with the speaker of the house, mike johnson. and iik do wonder given the recd here of republicans in the house enabling trump's corruption, how concerned you are about trump ande johnson sharing anything, letso alone a little secret. let's take toa listen to the sound first. >> and i think with our little secret, we're going to do really well with the house, right? our little secret is having a

bigre impact. he and i have a secret. we'll tell you what it is when the race is over. >> what's the secret? do you know what the secret? >> well, i don't know what their secret is, but we know that donald trump isno willing to li cheat, and steal literally in order to hang onto public office, which is such a great money making opportunity and what he called the greatest infomercial of all-time. the great news is the democrats in i the house and the senate a our lawyers are prepared for all of theirep mischief and shenanigans, whatever their little secrets are. and of course they tell donald about the contingent election provision in the 12th amendment, which is if they could somehow w deny the rightf majority of electors to the

winner under the vote in the electoral college, it's kicked into the houseot of representatives, where we vote not according to one member one vote, but one state one vote where the republicans have an advantage. and he thinks that's a big secret because, of course, he doesn't know anything about the constitution. we understand that's in there, but we are going to see that the certificates of ascertainment that are sent in by the governors are honored based on anho honest and accurate counti of the votes. and president biden is in charge of the national guard, not donald trump who sat there eating cheese burgers and french fries and watching tv while the capitol was stormed by the mob that he incited. so president biden will be there to defend the constitution and government of the united states. we have nonscalable fencing, andns we're ready for any proud boys or oath keepers who are going to try to overturn an election result and overturn the

constitution. so i'm more concerned about them trying to steal ite early in t process by challenging the certification not at the end but challenging the certification ah the precinct level, the county level, the state level. >> yeah, can i ask you about that, because we have this footage of h ballot boxes being burnedt in oregon and washingt. jim routenburg at "the new york times" reports before 2020 there'd only been a handful of instances in which election commissioners declined to certify an election in the years since board and commission members have voted against certifying results ined at leas 20 counties across eight states. so there have violence literally before ballots are being cast, chicanery, fraudulent activity with the commissioners to certify thesers things. on a scale of 1 to 10 what is your level a of concern here 10 being the most, 0 being the least. >> well, i feel pretty certain based on what we've already seen

that there are going to'v be attacks on the ballot boxes. there will be attacks on people's right to vote. look, they are a minority party and a shrinking minority party operating as a cultive personality around a charismatic or allegedly charismatic figure at this point, which means they know the majority is not with them. even hillary, who lost an electoral college, beat trump by more than 3 million votes just like joe biden beat him by 7 1/2 million votes and 14 million new voters in this election, overwhelmingly young people in thisov environment, pro-choice, pro-democracy, they're anti-maga. they're against their gay bashing, immigrant bashing agenda. so they know they can't win it fair and square. so there's going to be every effort using both whatever internal means they can think of to thwart people from casting

ballots. and there might be outside stuff by vovoc tours like the proud boys and oath keepers to stop us from having a free and fair election. we're ready for them this time. america is ready for them this time. we understand what they're capable of,st which is why on t democratic side and i've been out toat 27 states, alex. we say we're going to run a fair, honest, strong, and tough campaign, we're going to win the election, and then we're going to defendd the election agains allst comers whether it's donal trump and magga or vladimir putin, or any other foreign forces that wanthe to try to interfere with american democracy and freedom. >> congressman jamie raskin, thank you so much for your time tonight, sir. really appreciate it. >> you bet. we've got a lot more to get to tonight including jordan cleper who's literally spent years talking to trump's supporters. we're going to have what he thinks coming up later this

hour. but first, why a racist insult about puerto rico might cost donald trump the whole election? maybe? that's next. e election maybe? that's next.

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tonight former president donald trump held a rally in allentown, pennsylvania, home to one of the largest puerto rican communities in america. the rally comes at a remarkably awkward moment for the trump campaign. it's been only 48 hours since maga comedian -- that's not an oxy moron. >> i don't know if you guys know this, because literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. yeah. i think it's called puerto rico. >> when questioned by reporters earlier today about his comments, trump didn't comment. he pretended not to know hingecliff, saying i don't know who he is.

but it doesn't mean trump didn't like that new york rally. >> it was like a love fest, an absolute love fest, and it was my honor to be involved. >> my honor to be involved. as a reminder puerto ricans are u.s. citizens, and about 5.8 million of them live in the united states and can vote in this election including 472,000 who live in the battleground state of pennsylvania. joining me now is victor martinez, owner of la mega, the radio station in allentown, pennsylvania. we saw each other it feels like two years ago but it was i think a week ago. thank you for being here tonight. i just first want to get your view from the ground. trump's rally just concluded in alten. there was talk there might have been protested around that rally. what was the mood on the ground and what was trump's reception like? >> yes, there were a few people

who decided to go and protest. i personally told my audience not to. i told my audience he wasn't worth going tout there and put themselves out there. i think and i thought it was dangerous for them to do so. what i told my audience is if they're really upset and they really want to protest the best way to do it is next tuesday at the ballot box. if you want to take your flag and be proud of being puerto rican, the next way to do it is at the ballot box. >> the comedian said such appalling things about many americans, but really he preserved a particular amount of vitriol and directed at latinos and black americans. what have your viewers or listeners said to you? i know you do call ins on your radio show, but what has the reaction been the last two days? >> yesterday and today we've taken hundreds of calls. people have been calling. first of all, they can't believe

something like this would be said in such a public way about any country but especially for us, about puerto rico. they were surprised, they were upset, and now they're just flat mad. one of the things that has gotten us, the puerto rican community mad by the hour is the fact that even though, yes, trump didn't say those things, for the last two days he's completely neglected to even address the situation, even acknowledge the situation, apologize, or maybe even distancing himself from what happened. and then today, this morning, at 10 a.m. when he was having a news conference we all thought, okay, maybe now he's going to finally say something. and then we hear him say it was a love fest, that he was proud of being part of that event. well, that just told us flat out that he agree with everything that was said. >> i mean, it's also a reminder of the attitude trump has taken

to puerto rico in the aftermath of hurricane maria in 2017. it was just an abysmal response from the president. and, you know, for people in your community who may have forgotten about that, this is a searing reminder of the attitude he's taken towards an essential part of the united states and the united states diaspora. do you think this is the kind of thing that's going to make latinos, people in your audience change their votes if they were trump supporters? >> for here right now, yes. i'll give you an example. i had a listener to called in this morning and told us he's a republican and he already voted for trump by mail, and he was upset, he was mad he already voted. when i ask him, okay, and now what, he said in order to make up for already voting for trump, he's now calling everyone he knows to make sure they're voting for kamala harris. so that just gives you an example. and you mention maria, and

you're right, time heals all wounds, and that happened 5, 6, 7 years ago and we kind of let it go, we let that stay as it was. what happened on sunday brought all those feelings back. it reminded us, oh, that's right, that's the guy who threw paper towels at us. that's the guy who wanted to trade us in like a used car. that's the guy who called us poor and dirty. that's the guy that now is part of this puerto rico is trash comment. it's like a wound, right? it was healing, and now that wound has been opened back up, and it's bleeding again. >> in the wake of the madison square garden rally, some really prominent latino and latina artists some from puerto rico including j.lo -- well, j.lo her heritage is puerto rican. bad bunny who's like the most culturally related artist right

now and happens to be from pr, and daddy yankee they came out and endorsed kamala harris. we talk about celebrity endorsements, but to have those endorsements rollout after trump is saying this and doing this to the puerto rican community, do you think that makes a difference? >> no, absolutely. i think that has an impact, that all of those artists right now are out there endorsing donald trump. and i'll go even further the puerto rican representative in congress, which is a republican, a trump supporter, and a candidate for governor in puerto rico, jennifer gonzalez, said today in puerto rico's television that she believes that this situation will hurt donald trump in the states where puerto ricans live. >> you're in one of them, victor. i want to hear daily dispatches about what is happening on the ground there. you're our eyes and ears. thank you so much for making the time. victor martinez, it's great to see you. >> thank you. coming up the daily show's

jordan cleper has attended dozens of maga rallies and spoken with trump die hard over three presidential runs, trump, not jordan cleper. and i want to know how has the maga verse evolved over the course of time is it a new brand of crazy or was it always like this? jordan cleper will join me next in the studio. jordan cleper wil in the studio.

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>> i understand what trump said. with that comment, he's looking at the blight of the houses that have not been torn down or anything like that. and the abandened factories as of yet to be cleaned up. >> why didn't he say that? >> donald trump at his age, he's had outgoing speaking sessions of his life and all that. >> we're past prime eloquence, donald trump? >> right. >> wait, when were we ever in prime eloquence donald trump? when was that time? for the past eight years daily show correspondent jordan klepper has traveled the country attending dozens of maga rallies and interviewing hundreds of trump supporters, and in eight years a lot has changed. trump himself is more unfocused and fatigued and bizarre. he toggles back and forth between overt fascism and color commentary about sharks, hanble

lector and arnold palmer's genitalia. prior to trump's evolution, his supporters have become more extreme themselves. >> the democrats are controlling the weather? >> the government. >> so trump gets in office, he'll have control over the weather? >> well, they will pass on the torch, i assume. >> i have trump people coming up and saying trump's a time traveller. i've heard him say before the bullet hit his ear. >> it tracks 100%. he'd already been there once before. >> if that's the case he must know that he run because he decided to run for president again. that's why he's so angry about the idea because if i don't win you guys cheated because i'm a time traveller. is this the kind of stuff you guys are hearing? >> we can't be the most

outrageous theory of the day. >> no, you're not. >> this year they really feel like an ecosystem on mars. but don't take my word for it. jordan klepper joins me right here in studio to discuss how the man and his movement have gotten even more maga next. gottt

i was curious what news sources you guys follow and which ones you do trust.

>> i ask questions from my lord above, and honestly i get a lot of stuff from "x." >> so god and twitter. >> the jordan show's jordan klepper has been attending trump rallies for nearly a decade and he's still standing. while some trump rallies remain the same some things are different like elon musk joined the maga verse, donald trump can control the weather. the daily show presents jordan klepper finger's the pulse, rallies together is available now on comedy central's site and youtube daily show. i want to hear all your thoughts. >> sure, let's get into it. >> you're a seasoned vet of maga land. >> i've been there, i've bought the t-shirt, i tried to return the t-shirt. they take it kindly.

get a different shirt larger and larger. >> jemele buoy writes in "the new york times" far from showing strength -- he's writing about the madison square garden rally. he said far from showing strength the madison square garden rally showed that is a spent and exhausted force even if it is not yet defeated. i sort of wonder when you go to these events whether that comports with the reality you're witnessing. i mean, does it feel like a movement that has lost steam, that is more carnal than it is political movement? >> i do feel like the circus has come to town many times now. and people are still coming out to see the three-armed man telling themselves lies, that that's not a prosthetic but a third arm indeed. but we are seeing less and less people there. the die hard are there. we've seen a lot of people who have been to 93 rallies and keep going to more and more rallies. it's like the dead heads. the dead heads are still dead

heads. it was present to fill an arena, but filling an arena full of new jersey folks isn't going to win an election, just ask the jets. i think what i saw at that event was donald trump looking small, and it's -- it's the people that he brought up with him. and if you're presenting to the world your final case and the best thing you have to offer is dr. phil and hulk hogan, these deedless out there and just anger and bad jokes that don't play and jokes that are offensive and racist and feel like mad scribblings on a bathroom wall by mediocre men, if that's your final offer, if that's your party, your team, what do you got? that's 18,000 people, but somehow he made 18,000 people and the whole event and whole party seem tiny. >> you know we were talking before the segment began about the comedian who made the most

racist, you know, garbage comments at the garden rally. and you were saying you know this guy. tony -- but you're familiar with his work. this guy is not some sort of -- this wasn't a secretly or surprisingly virulent set he did? >> i think if you're asking him to be part of your show, this is what you're expecting. it's not as if anybody's surprised hulk hogan ripped his shirt off. that's what he does. tony tells roast jokes. what's shocking these things are usually happening in a small austin comedy club or back rooms. but this happened at madser square garden and suddenly said trump, vance. and suddenly the secret's out. it's laughable to me almost like donald trump didn't know what they were getting there. we were joking, we didn't know -- now, you know, i know.

>> we were told from people at these rallies and aren't familiar with the tony sets down in austin that this is the kind of stuff that resonates with young men, dana white and hulk hogan might see passe or sort of like sideshows, but this is ginning up young men who might feel marginalized. you see the enthusiasm. is that an assessment of the merit, of the value of these people at those events, correct? >> i mean this excites some men, not all men. kind of the worst men, not to be por jorative about it, but if this what gets you going, i think you need a hobby or learn how to play guitar -- i do have empathy for -- >> you see this resonating with young men at those maga rallies. >> yes. >> maga rallies have evolved. perhaps devolved might be the better terminology there.

part of the excitement at a maga rally is the rebellious nature. people like the trolling elements. they buy t-shirts to make people angry. they want kamala harris toilet paper. it's more akin to a rebellious teenager who wants to tepee the front yard. that element exists and that element might play with a dirty joke like that. this is not a comedy club. this is someone asking for your support. >> yeah, and you want to win over latino men, latino women and the latino vote period, this isn't going to help you do that being explicitly racist. and we played some sound of trump supporters saying with straight faces donald trump may be a time traveller and/or, you know, democrats can control the weather. is that -- you know, you're up close with these folks. is that them -- is that more

sort of trolling the libs, owning the libs and saying more outlandish things, or do you generally think that kind of information has planted itself in their brains? >> at that point it's not about what the truth of the situation is. they're not seeking truth, they're seeking comfort. the weather conversation, they've morphed their world view around the idea everything is us versus them. so literally air is now something that has to be them and not us. and so it's not a discussion over what they truly believe. they believe most in winning, most in donald trump, and so they comport these world views to that. donald trump gives them just enough -- just enough rope to hang themselves in the proverbial bad information world. >> do you -- you know when you have conversations because, i mean, whatever happens on november 5th, the country, presumably, is going to save the united states of america, and i wonder, like, sort of what is it like when you get out of a cult,

like there's certain ways to bring people back into society. and i wonder if there are any sort of devices or tricks you've learned to help, you know, people who are so deeply embedded in the cultive maga come back or at least see a light at the end of that tunnel that may be, in fact, the truth? is there a way to approach these folks? >> the short answer, no. i'm not seeing a lot of change, but to be fair i'm not going out there to change people's minds. i will say, though, in this special i did we brought somebody edward i've seen at a bunch of rallies about 93 trump rallies. we brought him to a kamala harris rally because he'd never been. from his perspective everybody at a kamala harris event is paid actor. i truly like edward, he feels like your uncle. and over time through exposure, through engaging in

conversations, and through talking one-on-one, he didn't change his mind but he at least thought there's a movement here. it's not my movement but there's a movement here. >> they're not lizard people. >> they're not lizard people, they're real people. if you look at somebody face-to-face and want to troll them, it's super hard. it's so easy to troll from the confines of the internet or quaintness of msg if it's just your pals around. if you're face-to-face i truly believe you can connect and help that person. what is the phrase like dictators prey on loneliness, and we see that. i think you have to deal with the loneliness, that may provide a path out of that into some light. >> that is very -- very wise and very reflective, jordan. jordan klepper with "the daily show," thank you again, jordan. great work out there, man. thank you for what you're doing. the daily show presents jordan

cleper, fingers the pulgs, rally together and that is available on paramount plus. jordan, great to see you. when we come back republicans are losing some key court battles over the 2024 election and election day isn't e:here yet. lisa rubin joins me coming up next. rubin joins me coming up next i still love to surf, snowboard, and, of course, skate. so, i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol's extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol, the brand i trust.

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we are one week out from election day. the trump campaign is setting the stage for a legal fight after voting ends that its allies are already racking up losses in their efforts to restrict the vote in key swing states. in north carolina a state court of appeals unanimously upheld the ruling that the state cannot block overseas ballots from the spouses and children of service members. in nevada the state supreme court ruled yesterday that election officials can count mail-in ballots that arrive

without a postmark as many as three days after election day. and in pennsylvania the state supreme court ruled last wednesday that voters whose mail-in ballots are rejected, should be allowed to vote with a provisional ballot. the republican party has now appealed that decision to the supreme court. joining me now is msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, thank you for being here. i want to kind of go through as many of these as we can in our time, but the nevada one where voters are being somehow held accountable for a postmark on or not on their ballot seems on its face to be, like, insane. >> well, that's what the court said in this decision. basically the nevada supreme court telling the rnc, which is a party here, no, it's not reasonable to demand that voters get a postmark on their ballot if the statute says that we are to count it where the postmark cannot be determined. that includes situations where

there is no postmark in the first place. but putting that burden on the voters is incompatible with the legislative the intent of expanding the right to vote, not contracting it. >> i mean, did they have an argument to make? i voted by mail. how could i even begin to ensure it got postmarked? >> well, they say i can read from the decision the rnc say a voter can ensure the ballot is postmarked by visiting in person and requesting a postmark from a mail associate while dropping off their ballot. and that's possible by some voters but including other groups including those who need to vote by mail, like homebound seniors, for example. they say that's totally which is to protect the most vulnerable among us and ensure they have access to the franchise, too. >> i'm curious on your thoughts

on pennsylvania. can you talk a little bit about what has happened there? >> first of all, let's talk about the supreme court because tomorrow the winners in pennsylvania owe their response to the supreme court in terms of where it's going to go and if it's going to go. but in pennsylvania you've got a bunch of people who tried to vote by mail and somehow got it wrong. in the case of the two plaintiffs, they failed to include what's called a secrecy envelope that protects their ballot. >> the sort of inner envelope that you put your ballot in before you put in the mail. >> correct. and they were notified by their county that they messed up their mail-in ballot and then thigh tried to vote provision hel in that states primary, and were essentially told your vote can't count. they then took the case to court, and new you've got the pennsylvania supreme court saying not only do you have the right to vote provisionally if your ballot is somehow messed up but counties must count those

provisional ballots where voters cast them. >> interesting. so basically people were messing the sort of, you know, secretarial part of voting and not enclosing on envelope or whatever and told, hey, you messed up your ballot but were told your provisional ballot does not count. and this is still the line republicans were trying to push to the supreme court. >> again, the pennsylvania court saying a variation of what the nevada supreme court said, which is the whole purpose of this is to expand the population of people who can vote. it's wrong to penalize people for getting the technicalities wrong. so they didn't include the secrecy envelope or they failed to date or sign it. but if they're notified that they mess that up, to not give them an opportunity to cure it provisionally is punitive and not in the spirit of what our state constitution requires as well as what the law allows. >> and then in north carolina they're trying to restrict the ability of the families of

service members, whom i would assume probably vote in healthy numbers for republican candidates, they're trying to restrict their ability to vote by mail. is that right as well? >> yes. and someone described this to me as not necessarily something republicans expected to win but a spaghetti at the wall kind of effort in an attempt to make that red mirage that we might see on election day itself feel like a red finale. in other words, if you can exclude through litigation the votes that will be counted last of votes that will be counted last of all, you can make what looks like a decisive victory on election night feel like the result that should have been reached all along. they are grasping at straws here. they did not expect to win. and uniformly so far in all of those cases that involve the spouses or adult children of service members, they have lost across the board so far, alex. >> i mean, i think for a lot of

us who are watching the coverage of ballot boxes being burned or election deniers in actually in state and local election infrastructure, the fact that the courts are still resisting efforts on the part of republicans to subvert democracy and to disenfranchise voters, this should be good news, indeed, especially as we head into an election season where there is bound to be a raft of lawsuits. >> let's hope that the courts stay as integrity filled as they have been so far, alex. >> lisa rubin, it is always good to see you, my friend. that is our show for this evening. please be sure to tune in for 9:00 p.m. eastern for a little special we're having here. "your power, your vaet," which i will co-host alongside my friend, in the incomparable joy reid." "way too early" is coming up next. i pledge to listen to experts, to those who will be impacted by theec