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that does it for us, ladies and gentlemen. tomorrow night, doug emhoff sits down for an exclusive interview with lawrence o'donnell. for now, i am signing off and congratulations to the l.a. dodgers. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i will see you at the end of tomorrow on my favorite day, halloween. favorite day, halloween. good evening. i am alex wagner here with my friend and colleague, joy reed. can you believe that we are six days out from election day. today vice president kamala
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harris is framing the choice on november 5th as a fight for freedom. >> it is a fight for freedom. like the fundamental freedoms of a woman to be able to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. we all remember how we got here. donald trump had selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe v. wade. they did, and now in america, one in three women lives in a state with a trump abortion ban. >> in the final national new york times seattle pole, likely voters ranked abortion is the second most important issue next to immigration but among women, abortion is tied with the economy at number one.
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that is part of what is driving the largest gender gap in our country's electoral history. to that end, trump has spent much of his time on the tour of the mantle verse speaking on a podcast jailbroken, and offering prime time speaking slots to misogynist is this man who are comparing the vice president of the united states to a prostitute. >> she is a fake, a fraud, she is a pretender. her and her handlers will destroy our country. >> even trump supporter nikki haley is not down for this. >> you had speakers at madison square gardens you know, referring to her and her pants. that is not the way to win women. this is not a time for them to get overly masculine with this broad romance thing they've got going. 53 percent of the electorate are women. women will vote.
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>> when donald trump has spoken women he is promised to be their hero, their protector. >> i'm going to protect our women from criminals coming into our country and going up to the suburbs and doing really bad things. are there any women in this giant massive arena that do not want protection please raise your hand. do women want to be protected? i said well, i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not i'm going to protect them. >> it's the orange vest that really does it for me. the harris campaign has a different message for those women. protect yourselves at the ballot box. here is their new ad, narrated by julia roberts. >> in the one place in america for women still have a right to choose. you can vote anyway you want. and, no one will ever know.
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>> did you make the right choice? >> sure did, honey. >> remember, what happens in the booth stays in the booth. >> what happens in the booth stays in the booth is more than just a tagline. it is a message that is been echoed by harris surrogates including liz cheney and michelle obama. >> you can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody, and there will be millions of republicans who do that on november 5th. >> if you are a woman who lives in a household of men that don't listen to you or value your opinion, just remember, that your vote is a private matter. regardless of the political views of your partner, you get to choose. you get to use your judgment and cast your vote for yourself and the women in your life.
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remember, women, standing up for what is best for us can make the difference in this election. >> it seems like women might be listening, casting mail-in ballots, voting early and making election day plans to vote for kamala harris knowing full well that the men in their lives are voting for trump. some of them are even not so secretly posting about it on tiktok and making canceling out your husband's vote an actual trend on social media but how many of these stealthy female voters actually exist and what does it mean for the overall mass on election day? is going to be a little box that appears on people screens and it's probably going to show you kamala harris, who was taking the stage at the alliant energy center in madison, wisconsin. we are going to hear what she has to say in a minute first,
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you and i have been talking about women. we've been talking about men. we've been talking about men of color. we've been talking about women of color. this conversation in particular, this notion of women whose husbands are voting for trump want to go quietly vote for harris, tailored to conservative white women. >> 100%. i think what we have to remember is that white women have really only been free for about 70 years. in 1973, the same year that women got the right to an abortion, women still could not open a bank account or get a credit card in their own name without their husband's signature. the idea, particularly for a white woman, of being the product -- protect the, was part of the culture. so yes, if your husband voted for ronald reagan, you voted to ronald reagan and you could see it track in the polls. white women and white men 6040 republican for decades then something happened in 2022. for the first time, white women, who have only gained rights through acts of the
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supreme court or through acts of congress, the 19th amendment which did not give black women the right to vote. it took them another several decades to get it, but it gave them rights. roe v. wade added to them. the right to contraception added to them in the 1960s. the right to open their own bank accounts. for the first time, white women had their rights taken away and i just think that the polls and the pundits are undercounting how angry they are, and how much of a fight they are ready to get in with these men who are saying, i am your protector. vote the way i vote and do what i say. >> yeah. it's so interesting to me that it is framed in this. i know you have to keep it a secret from your man but go and do it anyway, like it is a nod to the fundamentally conservative patriarchal dynamics of some of these conservative families but is also acknowledging that
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women get to do what women going to do. they're going to do what they think is in their best interest and clearly, trump abortion bands are not in the best interest. >> and it is not just that. the number one beneficiary of affirmative action in this country is white women. white women benefited more than people of color and the idea of pei benefits them. the madman era is seen as the good old days by men, but for women, it was an era when they were not free and so i think we are just not able to even pull or prognosticate based on anything that happened before 2022 because what i am seeing just anecdotally is a lot of conservative women who otherwise would just vote republican because it's part of their culture, just like black folks are democrats. their republicans but they're mad and we don't know that it means this big turnout early voting. i find it hard to believe it's a big turnout eager to vote for the guy who they need protection from based on the
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two dozen of women who have accused him of sexual harassment or abuse. >> there is one woman has probably going to be making the case for this woman to come out of the woodwork and vote and she is speaking right now. let's listen in to vice president kamala harris. >> -- guns and drugs and human beings. wisconsin, if you give me the chance to fight on your behalf as president, there is nothing in the world that will stand in my way of fighting for you. . town, here is the thing. we know who donald trump is. this is not someone who is thinking about how to make your life better. this is someone who is unstable,
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obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance, and out for unchecked power. in less than 90 days, it's either going to be him or me in the oval office. here is what you know, and here is what we know. if he is elected -- it's not going to happen, but if you were elected, on day one, donald trump would walk into that office with an enemies list. you know, he talks about the enemies from within. when i am elected, i will walk in with a to do list focused on your needs.
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and, at the top of my list is bringing down your cost of living. that will be my focus every single day as president. i will give a middle-class tax cut to over 100 million americans. we will and not the first ever federal band on corporate price gouging on groceries. we will fight to make sure hard- working americans can actually afford a place to live. and, if any of you out there are caring for an elderly parent, my plan will cover the cost of home care under medicare, so that
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seniors can get the help and care they need to stay in their own homes. it is about dignity. it is about dignity. my plan will lower the cost of childcare, cut taxes for small businesses. we have any small business owners here? i love our small businesses. my plan will lower healthcare costs because by the way, i believe access to healthcare should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. it is about values. it is about values. on the other hand, donald trump's answer to the financial pressures you face -- it is the same as it was last time. another trillion dollars of tax cuts for billionaires and big corporations.
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and this time, he will pay for it with a 20% national sales tax on everything you buy that is imported. clothes, food, toys, cell phones. it trumps sales tax would cost the average american family nearly $4000 more a year. on top of that, you would pay even more if donald trump finally gets his way and gets rid of the affordable care act. remember how many times he has tried to do that? you are booing because if you were successful, it would throw millions of americans off of their health insurance and take us back to when insurance companies could deny people with pre-existing conditions. do you remember what that was like? well, we are not going back.
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>> that was vice president harris making the third of her appearances today in key battleground states. she is there in madison, wisconsin at the alliant energy center. we were talking before we dipped into the vice president's remarks about white women in particular and the gender gap, and i think it bears reminding our audience of kind of what the chasm was in terms of women who went for trump and women who went for biden but before we do that, i want to bring in two women who know well about mobilizing the female vote this election cycle and others. joining us now is the founder of win with black women, the first black roots group to galvanize support for kamala harris this presidential run after she announced her campaign 101 days ago today. also joining us is shannon watts, who answered the call to bring white women on board for the harris campaign. it's so great to have both of you guys here. white women and 2020 voted 55%
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for donald trump, 44% for joe biden. black women, 9% to donald trump, 90% for joe biden, similar breakdown in 2016. white women, 52 percent. trump, 43%. clinton, black women were 4%. it feels like women generally are very electrified in this moment. i wonder if you can talk a little bit about how you are seeing the sort of grassroots enthusiasm from the female base and whether you think there needs to be a different message depending on what subsection of women you're talking to. >> i certainly can see, and i think just looking at an audience, just the electricity we are seeing across the country now in medicine in north carolina, we are seeing and enthusiasm particularly among women, but not just the conversations they are having
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with each other, but how they are showing up to early vote, seeing large numbers of women, black women, white women, all women, women of all ethnicities showing up. many of them posting enthusiastically about that vote you know, the notion of the denial and canceling out their husbands vote but i see what is happening in the difference is that in 2016, many of those women, that 52, 55% that voted for donald trump, they lived with the donald trump presidency and i think that in this day and age we see the repercussions of what a donald trump u.s. supreme court looks like in the removal of so many of our rights and i think women are fed up and we are going to exercise our right to stand and we are also excited
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about what vice president kamala harris stands for and what she needs for the future of women in this country and quite frankly, we now women can get the job done. >> shannon, there is reporting in politico that the harris campaign is really zeroing in on moderate suburban women and in particular, noncollege- educated white women. can you talk to me a little bit about anecdotally what your experience has been like in terms of motivating women who may be on the fence, women who may have husbands who were trump supporters, women who just are not sure where they want to be on november 6, 2024. what is resonating? is it abortion, is that the post-dobbs landscape that is really shaping voter opinion right now as you see it? >> i think that is part of it, but i think it is a bigger issue, which is a real feeling that donald trump and jd vance and their supporters hate women , and i don't use that word loosely. i really think it is a feeling
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of hatred. the campaign really brought it home the other day in that rally that donald trump had and then tonight, he is insisting that he's going to be the protector of women whether they wanted or not. i think what is really interesting also is what we are seeing are all these whisper campaigns and you all showed some ads relevant to this, right? whisper campaigns are how women have shared information to millennia from things about menstruation to menopause even rings for men to be afraid of and what we are seeing in this campaign is that same power of persuasion whether it is telling women they need to have conversations with their moms and their sisters who may be a part of that 53% who voted the wrong way the last time, whether it is the sticky notes we are seeing left in bathrooms and on airplanes all over the place, particularly in red states, or the ads that you showed. there is this group called the fresh registry, and they put out a question whether people knew, women knew, that when
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they voted it was private and they didn't know when it started this whole campaign to give women information through a hotline about the fact that their vote is private, so all of this is a persuasion to change the hearts and minds of the 53% of women who we hope will vote the right way this time. >> shannon brings up such a good point about the hatred that some women feel is being directed at them by the truck campaign. it is, i guess the word is ironic. calling could be another word, that trump is out there saying how many women want me to be a protector at the same time that he is literally attacking women repeatedly, over and over again in the most vulgar language possible, a woman who happens to be the vice president of the united states of america. he has people comparing her to a prostitute. uses expletives to describe her vice presidency. he could not be more insulting. he could not but more of a target on her back and yet, he proclaims and positions himself to be a patriarch to protect women. it does not jive. >> but yet, the thing is, there are women who are married to a
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trump, you know, somebody who is supposed to be the protector but is harming them. donald trump -- i think e. jean carroll would've thought of him as an acquaintance that was safe to be around in a bergdorf goodman. he assaulted her and then he defamed her and said well, i don't even know her. i've never met her then literally confused his ex-wife for her in a photo. i mean, donald trump hates women. donald trump used to run beauty pageants and people at the teenagers. he is either lured toward women where he is dangerous to women. he is vulgar but that is what he -- the campaign he is running as a campaign to attract men. they went to man only blogs, man only podcast. >> he's wearing an orange vest and a garbage truck today.
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that's like my five-year-old stream of what happens when you get old and you're a guy. you get to do that all day, like drive a garbage truck around. you can sit in the next invader, too. it is like the most basic, kindergarten version of masculinity. >> in the kindergarten version from the 1990s. he is bringing out hulk hogan and ww e stars. their strategy clearly is to over perform with men and also over perform with young men who might be incels or angry or hate women and it is also an anti-women campaign that is also saying to women, you need to be okay with this because the only way you could be protected is someone like trump stopping the brown and black people from you in the street because they're coming over the border to get you. it is sort of the way they used to get men lynched. >> it does have echoes of the post-reconstruction era. it was like white women need to be protected from the black and brown mess and that is exactly the petition, rhetorically, the trump is using at his rallies.
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you mentioned early voting, and i do think that this is important to highlight to everybody. this is new information we have that there is currently 56 million early votes that have been cast nationally. 53% of them were cast by women. shannon, when you hear that statistic, should democrats be rejoicing? do you think that is an indicator that if women are voting early in those numbers, larger than expected, those are probably democratic votes, or do you think this is going to be as divided as it has been in 2016 and 2020? >> no, i know with my heart and soul, that those are votes for women who are protesting the hatred that they feel. and look, [ inaudible ] always says your whiteness will not save you from what the patriarchy has in store for you. i think women sought in 2016 when hillary clinton lost in
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the trump abortion bands and all of the different things that have happened, that it was true, that the whiteness would not save them and i'm sorry it took so long for us to vote and not just our own self-interest but in all women's best interest . i believe that is what we are starting to see happen and when you talk about the gender gap, this idea that somehow it is the economy that men care about, i don't think that is true. i think it is preserving the patriarchy. i think women see that and they want to burn it down. >> tell us what you really think. shannon, thank you so much for your time. it is so great to get your perspective because you know all this stuff first-hand. jotaka eaddy, please stay with us. we have much more we want to discuss with you. joy reid, you're not going anywhere. when we get back, how much will the issue of abortion factor into the election this year. stay with us.
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the central theme vice president, harris' campaign is the importance of bodily autonomy and the danger when those freedoms are taken away. today, propublica reported on the story of a young mother pregnant with her second child who died of sepsis just one week after texas' abortion ban went into effect in 2021. despite being diagnosed with a miscarriage in progress, dr. said they could not treat her, meaning provide an abortion, until her fetus no longer had a heartbeat. for 40 hours, the anguish 28- year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her. all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria. three days after she delivered she died of an infection. the more than one dozen medical experts who reviewed the
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records called her case horrific, astounding and egregious and said her death was preventable. joining us is alexis michael johnson, president and ceo of planned parenthood action fund and jessica valenti, author of "abortion." alexis, these stories are horrific. their horrifying and entirely predictable and predicted by those who said do not overturn roe. >> entirely predictable and i think about her families. i think about amber thurman's family and candy miller's family in georgia. the horror that they went through, seeking desperate access to care. i also think about the providers because the providers wanted to give that care. they were trained to give that
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care. they were desperate to give that care and there was some administrator, some lawyer in the hospital somewhere who said we have to respect what these politicians have done, and we know that at no point do americans believe that politicians are more qualified than doctors or families to make decisions about their own bodies. >> this is even before roe was overturned, so that means when roe was overturned, there was information out there. this case had not come to light that obviously but this just shows that even before that happened, we all knew what would happen if women cannot get an abortion and texas did this bounty hunter lot anyway. >> right, texas had passed with abortion ban even the row had not been overturned yet and i think what is so important to know that in addition to pro- choicers knowing this would happen antiabortion activists and legislators knew this was going to happen. the plan for this. they knew very well what these laws would do. they are trying
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to play it right now is if this is a surprise to them. they knew this was going to happen. they knew that women were going to die in the past these laws anyway and i just spent the whole day being so angry and furious about this. you know, not only reading this horrific story but watching the antiabortion men's response to this. >> what you say, i believe, jessica. if you don't understand what happens in pregnancy complications -- if you're writing like you should have a passing understanding of that, and yet they seem really cut flat-footed like the antichoice movement seems really to be in many ways on defense around this because we are championing women's stories, drawing attention to issues of miscarriage and a lot of legacy- related complications that we don't, as a society, normally talk about but dobbs has blown
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the lid off of that. what you now see in the form of retreat is a bunch of republican lawmakers whether to pretend they're not wishing to restrict choice of bodily autonomy, they're not using the language that the antichoice movement has used historically. there talking about fetal personhood rather than antiabortion legislation. that all seems to me to be a movement that truly did not understand the pandora's box they were opening up. >> it's clear they did not understand abortion bands would make a good seat fundamentally more dangerous because they have always tried to isolate abortion is not part of reproductive healthcare. the tried to separated out from the broad range of how we would manage pregnancy outcomes and so when it really starts to come to the fore, when the stories really start coming out, they are just running the other way on the thing about it is they are also looking every time reproductive freedom has been on the ballot, we have won and they realize it is completely politically inconvenient in this moment and so their flip- flopping and trying to walk
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back but they can't walk back from the stories. the can't walk back from these deaths. the can't walk back from the horror and chaos and confusion they have wrought. >> i wonder what you guys think about this washington post story today. the headline knows , these women are all in for abortion rights and for donald trump. these are republican and independent voters in plan to split their ticket on abortion, voting for an abortion referendum. there are i think, 10 states that have abortion referenda on the ballot in november, and vote for trump. they said they were willing to give trump the benefit of the doubt on the issue feeling reassured by his recent promises not to crack down further on abortion. >> yes, it is pretty unbelievable but his messaging about the will of the people, i find it completely unbelievable
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but it has been making headway with republican women voters. i think it just gave them enough of an excuse to do what they wanted to do anyway. i feel like oh, okay. i can care about -- and what he is doing is giving them something really important. he is giving them the false notion that i still have a choice by saying you're going to -- >> but, here is the challenge. they're going to get a really unpleasant surprise when he comes and and they say we're not going to pass the national abortion ban. were just going to enforce the comstock act. that's all they have to do. i think that is what a lot of people are compartmentalizing it to. if i can just control what happens in my state i will be safe. if you have a president who is a zealot, they don't need a national abortion ban. >> they don't need a national abortion ban. they can do it through executive action but the reality is we are already living in a world where -- i've been in seven states in the last 10 days. every time i went i have a
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different set of rights. you know, when i bring my 12 and 15-year-old girls to see my mother in georgia, they already have fewer rights than my 84- year-old mother lived with her entire life and she lived through jim crow so as states rights really the argument you want to put out there, that you can be free on the start but not on this. >> and also they want to criminalize travel between the states and now we are getting like fugitive stave -- slave act laws to stop women from travel. >> yes. women traveling interstate to seek bodily freedom, the orwellian aspect of this knows no bounds. i should not be surprised that we edged closer and closer to the handmaid's tale -like scenario but this is the modern republican party. >> this is the modern republican party and is much as they try to hide from it, you can't run from stories like this. you can't run from the reality
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that people are seeing on the ground and i think that is what we are seeing with voters. voters can see what is happening in their communities. they can see what is happening to their friends and their families and it really will not be long until every person in this country has been touched by an abortion ban in one way or another. >> where are men on this? it is appalling to me, but it does take sperm to make a baby, and that usually comes from men. how is this still being seen as a women's issue? >> we have seen actually a lot of progress with men. anecdotally, being on the ground but being in conversations -- just yesterday i was at a roundtable in texas and we had patients and providers telling stories about what was happening in ground zero in texas and i could just look at the reporters who were covering it and you could see the light bulbs go off and say
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like wow, what if that was my sister, what if that was my wife, what if that was my daughter like that very much like the michelle obama speech. it is coming into the conversation and young man -- i think we have looked at the gender gap but you see them on a college campus and talk to some men and they are like young men and their like this is not a gender issue. i totally understand how this would impact my life, my career, my family, my girlfriend, you know, my friends. i do think the opportunity to bring more men and particularly young man along, more girl doubts along, my brothers along -- all of that is there. i just think they need to understand more of the story. >> thank you. we will obviously continue this conversation because apparently these tragic cases are not going to stop anytime soon. we will be right back. will be. (♪♪) evan, my guy! you're helping them with savings, right? (♪♪) i wish i had someone like evan when i started. somebody just got their first debit card! ice cream on you? ooo, tacos! i got you.
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i think that the comments made by both of them about being garbage maybe 250 million people, they should be talking. that is deplorable for hillary. >> donald trump turned up in wisconsin this afternoon with our custom maga garbage truck waiting for him on the tarmac , and appeared not to joe biden's comments last night. donald trump was very committed to his bit. he kept that high visibility safety vest on for his rally in green bay. joining us now is maia wiley, president and ceo of the leadership conference on civil and human rights.
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maia, it's almost too easy but donald trump in a high visibility safety vest that he refuses to take off after riding around in a garbage truck all day. >> after calling as a trash can country. let's just put all that symbolism into what he has actually called all of us, and are very country and then he's got the symbolism of driving around in a garbage truck. when just had a rally right here in new york city with a continuous spew of racism, anti- semitism against puerto ricans, against black people, against , so i think if we want to talk about deplorable, if we want to talk about categorizing people, i think we would have to say what is worse? joe biden making a statement that joe biden made, not kamala harris, and then proceeding to
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try to clarify that statement, or outwardly endangering the lives of people based on who they are, like haitian americans , trashing puerto rican americans, saying and doing things that have literally stepped in and cited vigilante as a, including in some instances to try to come between lawful voters and their ability to vote. so, if we compare all that to this and then his efforts to try to show he's in touch, what he has shown us is that he is and a danger to the lives of real people. >> i have thoughts on the biden
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garbage controversy. i'm sure you do as well. i want to get your -- yours first. michelle obama talked about the double standard trumps comments elicited in the media and public discourse, and what kamala harris, the standard she is held to in terms of the policy that she outlines, everything else. here is joe biden, who is not even on the ticket and there is a firestorm of controversy around him. here is where michelle obama -- this is predating the biden comment. i think these words will hold true. >> we expect her to be intelligent and articulate, to have a clear set of policies, to never show too much anger, to prove time and time again that she belongs. but for trump -- we expect nothing at all. no understanding of policy, no
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ability to put together a coherent argument, no honesty, no decency, no morals. >> i mean, the reality is, it is fake outrage. i'm sorry, permit me to just clutch my pearls. oh my goodness, donald trump and his friends are offended that people might've called him names. boo-hoo. joe biden is not running for president. joe biden, what he says is not relevant to the campaign. >> just to be clear, he repeatedly saying i'm not calling trump supporters garbage. correct, that guy is garbage. >> tony hinchcliffe is garbage. there has been a clarification issued. >> and, people should move on from that because the bottom line is noble one, donald trump and a garbage truck or a
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mcdonald's, he's never worked a day in his life. he has been an ibo baby that has essentially benefited from his daddy's money and basically stealing his dad's money from even the other siblings when his brother died so he has never worked because he's playing dress-up here to pretend like he can relate to regular people. donald trump has put more people in danger just by opening his mouth. he and his running mate. joe biden is not putting anybody in danger. let's move on. it's not an interesting story but what is interesting is that donald trump climbed into a garbage truck after the guy he hired, and his speech is campaign vetted to take out the letter c-word so they would not offend even more women than they have already offended by hating on them. they did not call it that but they called puerto rico what? >> an island of garbage. >> if i'm puerto rican, i'm taking not personally. where are you in a garbage truck? you're not walking back from
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what you said about us. >> it's okay. donald trump actually -- here is his excuse for tony hinchcliffe and his racist comments. let's just take a listen. >> i don't know anything about the comedian. i don't know who he is. i've never seen him. i heard he made a statement but the statement he made -- he's a comedian. what can i tell you. i know nothing about him. they put comedians up and i guess he went on early in the show. i don't know who he is. >> it's always the same thing with him and it's the hypocrisy of every aspect of what donald trump represents. my angela said it best. when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. and i think we have to believe what donald trump has showed us over and over again, that he just encompasses racist values.
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he encompasses sexism, anti- semitism. just all of the hate, the hate against our muslim brothers and sisters in this country, and just the hate against women, and the fact that he climbed into this garbage truck on the heels of this event and then to just sit there and say he knows nothing about this man, i don't know anything -- yes, you do. your campaign knows about this man. you heard what he said, and then you followed him on stage and you did not say anything about it. you had an opportunity and he has had multiple opportunities to say i do not stand for that, but he has not, because that is a part of what this campaign is driving itself on. hate and trying to create this divide in this country but actually, i think it is not working. i think it is having the
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opposite effect. >> yes, that's it. i don't know who the guy is. he was on stage. what's a trump rally? >> he was backstage listening and not only that, he doesn't know anyone who he appointed to office he wrote roger 2025 and he doesn't know any of those justices on the supreme court who he ran for office saying he was going to put on the supreme court to reverse roe v. wade. he doesn't know any of that. every single time i am telling you he moonwalks better than michael jackson. >> by the way, he is running for a job in which your principal job is hiring people in running an organization in the campaign organization is usually a good addition for how you're going to run the country so you're saying that you helped what was supposed to be your biggest event, your closing statement, your big dream of being in madison square garden and you have no idea who any of the people are? the guy who opened for the event? who hired him? you even manager campaign directly? who is in charge? if you don't
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know who this guy is, somebody vetted his speech. somebody hired him and now you're casting him off as though you are not involved in your own campaign. >> i think part of it is he doesn't want to cast him off entirely because the tony hinchcliffe strain of machismo, misogyny and anti-semitism has a home in the maga coalition. my heart does not go out to donald trump but he is in a strange place. he knows that pony -- tony hinchcliffe has done damage to him among puerto rican voters who could decide this election, especially in the state of pennsylvania. at the same time, he knows comedy lands with a bunch of the boroughs, and he is trying to get them to show up to the polls and so a disavowal is not really possible. >> remember his foot soldiers were on january 6. problem is, oath keepers, extremist groups. remember who he said in the presidential debate, stanback.
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remember who he has in his some of his major supporters have -- steve bannon has been organizing the extremists globally, and all of this has been happening in plain sight, in plain view and explicitly, so none of this is different from donald trump except how direct, up front and overt, and the permission structure to be overtly racist, to be overtly sexist, to be overtly extremist, and that is the reality. this is who he is always shown us who he is. remember back in the 70s, when had had to bring housing discrimination, the central park five. there is an unbroken chain here around trumps racism. >> to your point, it is this very clear line.
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it is a very clear line. it is not fuzzy. it's not great. it is very clear in terms of who he is, how dangerous he is. this is someone that incited violence on our country. this is someone who could -- continues to really galvanize around this point that he wants to destroy enemies in this country, that patriots and people who dare to speak truth to our enemies, that he wants to use the military to take them out, and so he is very dangerous. he is dangerous for our country, and he has no policy agenda for our country. all he has is hate and division in our country and i think what we are seeing in the large numbers of early voting and americans and young voters, we are just going to, in this
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country, i believe, on tuesday, and see that america is saying enough in and -- enough is enough. >> i will just say, he thinks are garbage truck thing may be working for him but -- >> trash is trash, right? >> thank you for your time, ladies. we will be right back. stay with us. be right back. stay with us.
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as the country barrels toward an election that is almost certain to feature numerous election related lawsuits, today, the supreme court decided to allow republican officials in virginia to purge voter rolls ahead of election day. the decision was of course 6-3 along ideological lines. joy? >> what happened to not making decisions that can alter the course of an election within 60 days of an election? >> in theory, so the state supreme court in virginia was actually issuing a decision that the republicans in the lawsuit said was changing election law. so the supreme court had i guess a bit of cover there. but make no mistake, if the supreme court is the deciding
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body in this election? >> harris is cooked. >> well i just think the conservative bent of the court will make itself known. >> i think the challenges people want to believe that john roberts is not sam alito. the problem is he is sam alito without the flags at home. >> he doesn't have a collection of insurrectionist flags flying above his beach house in new jersey. >> but he wants republican victories and they are all monarchists. they believe the president should be king. but it has to be a republican king. >> well listen. we very much have some heartening early vote numbers in terms of people who care about democracy. you and i will be reunited once again. hopefully over many bags of lays potato chips. they power us. >> we need the chips. >> it has been a joy and a thrill to sit here for an extra hour. >> thank you my friend. >> thank you for watching our election special. your power your vote.
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