right now on "ana cabrera reports" the final five days. the vice president courts voters, while trump courts

outrage. their diverging styles as the clock winds down. plus, trump vows to protect women whether they, quote, like it or not. the new comments raising misogyny in the 2024 campaign. also, the lawsuit against elon musk. is the billionaire trump supporter's election giveaway illegal? trump and his allies false claims of election fraud as these baseless claims spread like wildfire with five days to go. ♪♪ ♪♪ good morning. it is 10:00 eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. in five days millions of americans will head to the polls to make their choice for president. until that time kamala harris and donald trump are scratching and clawing for every single voter who's left. today that effort takes them both out west to battle grounds

arizona and nevada. now, this southwest swing for the vice president will be capped off with an appearance alongside jennifer lopez in las vegas. the former president, it's his final campaign events in arizona and nevada. he'll cap off a stop in new mexico. mike memoli is in phoenix. vaughn hillyard is in arizona as well. we have msnbc political analyst juanita tolliver author of "a more perfect party" and former republican congressman from florida david jolly. mike, the vice president and her team have been laser focussed on bipartisan. how does that look today? >> reporter: the vice president has been taking that message on

the road. today it's about making her final pitch out west. she's starting her day in phoenix, arizona, before she makes two stops in the critical battleground of nevada. when we look at the paths to victory for the vice president, the west is really important, especially nevada, which has been a democratic stalwart for the democratic party over the last few cycles. it's a critical trip for her to make a pitch, especially to latino voters who have seen based on donald trump's comments over the weekend have been a focus for the campaign. she'll be joined in nevada by jennifer lopez and she'll have performances here in phoenix by a major band with a big following here. part of the pitch the vice president has been making is to have a specific message to young voters. she's been singling them out. take a listen. >> you all are rightly impatient for change, rightly.

you who now know fewer rights than your mothers and grandmothers are standing up for freedom. what i know about you is these issues are not theoretical. this is not political for you. this is your lived experience. and i see you. and i see your power. i see your power and i'm so proud of you. >> reporter: now, ana, when you talk to harris advisers about how they're optimistic about this race, it's the power of women voters. that's why the vice president will seize on the former president's comments we'll look at for you, women, whether you like it or not.

>> butterflies in the home stretch. vaughn, you're in arizona as well. trump has another stop in new mexico which hasn't gone red since 2004. why is he there? >> reporter: he's making a stop in arizona about six miles away from where mike is right now. he'll miss the vice president by about an hour. he's holding a rally in henderson, nevada. al ber -- albuquerque, new mexico, is having a rally there mid afternoon. why there? donald trump is running his campaign, let's be clear. he's making stops in virginia, two states that have gone blue several presidential cycles in a row. there was a 2020 campaign official for donald trump talking with our colleagues katherine doyle and john allen. the way that official put it is

that no political strategist in the final week of a presidential election would be choosing to go to virginia and new mexico unless the candidate is the one running the show and making the decisions, which, of course, would imply that donald trump is making the decisions. politically speaking the trump campaign is making the case that they think they'll be able to expand the map, not just only among the republican base of support, but also disaffected democrats and independents and they believe there's going to be a jazzed maga electorate that is going to turn out in numbers that go beyond the record numbers that they were able to turn out in the 2020 presidential election. if they do that, they'll make the indicate not only will they win arizona, nevada, georgia, north carolina and the midwest states, they make the case they'll surprise the country and be able to pull off places or make in roads in virginia and new mexico. of course, we don't expect,

looking at polling that new mexico will go the way of donald trump. >> thank you both for bringing us the latest from the trail. mike memoli, five days to go and trump is in a blue state. what do you make of these decisions? >> reporter: all politics are national now. it doesn't matter where you go as long as your speech is being covered. i don't understand why you go to a blue state whether it's hubris or trolling the vice president. donald trump is wasting a day. even if all politics are national, he could be giving a speech in pennsylvania or a state that might matter. donald trump's a historically bad candidate. he's a historically bad candidate this cycle and today affirms that. >> he certainly is

unconventional for sure. juanita he was cosplaying wearing that worker vest and driving around in a garbage truck, trying to highlight biden's recent garbage comments. i wonder if it will backfire reminding everyone of the racist jokes at his rally. plus, he said things like this lately. >> the most corrupt, horrible people. these are horrible people. oops, we should get along with everybody. they're horrible people. these are sick people, but we're not going to let this [ bleep ] happen any long. we're like a garbage can for the world. that's what's happened. that's what's happened. we're like a garbage can. we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. >> juanita, what's your take on this garbage truck stunt and the

impact on undecided voters? >> the only other thing i'll add to that montage is enemies within, applying to people who don't vote for him or disagree with him. that's the context in which his entire campaign has been run. when he's in a costume yet again, they lost the plot. they are behaving as though voters won't remember everything he said up until that point. i don't think it's going to have a broad impact. i don't think there are any disaffected democrats that his campaign is pointing to that will latch on to these statements. if anything, it will continue to turn people off from his campaign. the other thing his campaign said about why they're going to these nonbattleground states is because they built a diverse coalition. what do they mean by diverse when their campaign is built on racism, xenophobia, anti-lgbtq.

i have no idea what they're talking about. it appeals to his base of supporters. >> congressman jolly, vice president harris had a political ad in spanish pointing to the racist jokes at trump's rally. so many things have come and gone during trump's career. is it smart for the harris campaign to amplify this issue even after that truck stunt? >> i think microtargeting voters persuaded by the garbage comment is very important. i think you're seeing vice president harris do this with precision. this entire race from start to finish is an adjudication about donald trump. many people are passionate about issues, but donald trump is almost the incumbent in this

race. it's an adjudication of trumpism, the anger, all the things we talk about. vice president harris is on message targeting donald trump because the last available persuadable voters are soft republicans or independents who voted as republicans in the past. those who have yet to make up their mind are the voters that say i can't vote for donald trump, but can i vote for vice president harris? that's the closing argument. >> i want to highlight something that democrats are talking about, new trump comments about women. >> why? i'm president. i want to protect the women of our country. they said, sir, i think it's inappropriate for you to say. i pay these guys a lot of money. can you believe it? i said, well, i'm going to do it

whether the women like it or not. >> whether they like it or not. juanita, is that a winning message? >> all that brought to mind was the reality that donald trump is someone who was found liable of sexual assault. he's someone who appointed three supreme court justices to take away roe v. wade, which was the law of the land for decades. donald trump is the threat to women. this is smart for the harris campaign to emphasize. not only do they have the advantage when it comes to the gender gap with 12 to 15 points more support from women, but they have trump's words and records to amplify. i fully expect them to continue to do that in the coming days and months. it's a question at this point of how many women turn out and support vice president harris. i think about that in the context of black women, latino women, asian american women, indigenous women largely voting for democrats historically.

then i turn to white women. this is who the vice president's campaign is attempting to appeal to knowing that 47% of white women supporting trump in 2016. how many white women are his language of whether women like it or not as a final straw. racism wasn't the final straw. his court cases from accusers of sexual assault have not been the final straw. is this the final straw now that roe v. wade is a mobilizing factor in this election where we have seen votrs cross partisan lines to protect abortion rights. this is the question this election cycle. >> congressman, we heard the comments from the vice president at the top, her pitch to gen-z voters, talking to students in wisconsin. it's a challenge for campaigns to get out the younger vote. is her message talking about

freedoms and reproductive freedoms motivating this voting block? >> we think it is. it's a hard group to break through. as smart and educated as younger voters can be they're relatively lower information as a demographic. that low information voter might be drawn to voting on the brand. republican, democrat, independent, donald trump, what do i think of him? to hit home strong messages about democracy and personal freedoms, perhaps student loans, an opportunity economy the vice president talked about is great for young voters. vice president harris is doing everything right right now. donald trump is doing everything wrong. i agree with juanita. the women are going to decide this election. if you look at the trend line from 18, 20, 22 democrats are overperforming because women are rejecting donald trump and

trumpism. i would be worried if i were the former president. >> great conversation. thank you both. now to breaking news in philadelphia. elon musk was due in court after the city's district attorney sued the billionaire and his political action committee over their $1 million a day voter giveaway. there have been developments. lisa rubin joins us from philadelphia. what's the latest, lisa? >> reporter: well, ana, as we sit here now we understand that attorneys for elon musk and for philadelphia district attorney larry crazner are talking to the judge because they were expecting a hearing this morning about whether elon musk's giveaway is illegal under pennsylvania law. elon musk made a filing in a philadelphia federal court

seeking to remove the case and move it to that federal court. in the ordinary course, once you provide written notice to the other side, once you also provide a copy of your federal filing to the state court, that should effectively pause all proceedings in the state court. nonetheless, we understand that hearing is still going on behind us. but elon musk, having done something last night that should effectively make it much more difficult for the district attorney to take any action against his lottery before election day, if at all. >> what does it mean for the lottery itself at this point? >> reporter: well, assuming that elon musk freezes this hearing going on behind me today and makes it difficult for the state court to have any hearings against him, unless and until the district attorney decides to seek emergency relief from the federal court, elon musk can continue to hand out that $1 million. he's given away 12 awards so

far, 4 of them in pennsylvania alone. he's shown no signs of stopping. you remember that the department of justice sent elon musk and america pac a letter telling them in addition to whatever claims the district attorney has made under pennsylvania law they believe the pac is violating federal election law and federal election criminal law in terms of paying people to vote or paying people to register to vote. that didn't deter elon musk, nor has the filing of these claims in pennsylvania state court. we'll have to see what happens today, but elon musk's filing last night was definitely a strategy to prolong and postpone any outcome or resolution of the litigation until after the election which allows him to do what he has been, giving away $1 million a day to voters in swing states that sign that petition.

>> lisa, thank you. keep us posted. we're back in 90 seconds. a flash pan of falsehoods. trump and republicans targeting a battleground with allegations of election fraud. plus, a heart breaking headline. a woman died after being told it would be a crime to intervene in her miscarriage at a texas hospital. the shock waves with abortion measures on ballots. harris and trump, dueling events in arizona. one of that's battle grounds top reporters on the state of the race there. later, the tiktok election takeover. how comedians and humor are shaking up social media. the vp debate is rigged. they're eating the dogs. they're doing a lot of things. it should have been crazy kamala. instead it's j.d. versus walz. >> we got to make ends meet. i'm kamala harris.

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donald trump and his allies are already making baseless allegations of election fraud in the battleground of pennsylvania. this comes as authorities warn about a proliferation of misinformation across the internet as the election gets closer. ryan nobles has more on this problem. >> reporter: this can be scary. we're already seeing examples of

foreign adversaries using fake videos, news stories and social media posts as a way to disrupt the election process. a flood of false information about the election shared on the internet. already in pennsylvania a viral video claimed to show illegal harvesting of ballots in north hampton county. it was just a postal worker delivering ballots. former president trump has been, without evidence, alleging fraud in the key state of pennsylvania where polls are tied. >> nonpartisan election officials are doing their jobs across pennsylvania and they're working very hard to ensure we have free, fair, safe and secure elections. >> reporter: earlier this month the fbi believes a group of russian actors built a fake video that made it look like trump mail-in ballots were getting destroyed. in 2020 the internet was filled with inaccurate claims about the

arizona vote counting process. in 2024 the secretary of state created a deep fake video of himself to demonstrate the internet can't always be trusted. his team is showing voters how the process works to prevent the spread of conspiracy theories. the cyber security agency warned that foreign adversaries are amplifying the false videos and claims, but they've seen no evidence they hacked into election infrastructure. >> whoever you vote for, you can have confidence that your vote will be counted as cast. >> reporter: it is easy to spread the false information, and much more difficult to reign in it. especially with artificial intelligence making it easier to create fake videos that look real. it would allow you to take a video of me, which looks real, or like me in this bed, or sitting cross legged on a yoga mat. that video was generated by a

computer program. the challenge not only for election officials and voters as well in a race that's expected to be extraordinarily close. this could be a big problem beyond election day. we still need to count the votes and the integrity of that process will play a big role in the transition. there are real fears the internet may be used to show the election was not fair and could threaten the peaceful transfer of power. >> ryan nobles, thank you. donald trump's most successful primary challenger was on the campaign trail yesterday. nikki haley stumped for pennsylvania senate candidate dave mccormick. she did mention the presidential race and acknowledged republicans may be conflicted about voting for trump. >> i'm going to ask all of you to take the emotion out of this election. we need to take the emotion out of this election and really

think about the policy and what it means for our kids and the next generation. that's our job. it's the next generation. >> the fight is on for those so-called nikki haley voters. with vice president harris feverishly trying to win over some of those moderate republicans, especially after the racist and misogynistic comments at trump's madison square garden rally. here's some of what former haley voters are telling us. >> it's so typical of what i hear from them all the time. >> we voted for nikki haley in the primary. do you view trump being in the same style republican as haley? >> no. >> so in your mind is trump closer to haley than harris? is that how you look at it? >> yeah, i think so.

i really like the idea that nikki haley was a woman. >> to give you a sense of how tight this race is, nearly 160,000 republicans voted for haley in pennsylvania's primary. that was after she had dropped out of the race. in 2020, remember, president biden won pennsylvania by just over 80,000 votes. this election day abortion rights will be on the ballot in states across the country. the stakes even more stark with a heart breaking headline like this. a woman died after being told it would be a crime to intervene in her miscarriage at a texas hospital. her story and where abortion measures are on the ballot, next. scover how easy it can be to find your medicare match. this is pretty amazing. i can go on a vacation with this money. i have quite a few prescriptions. that's why people call us. we're going to compare plans, and i'm gonna try to get you as much bang for your buck as possible.

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welcome back. this is josseli barnica. back in 2021 the 28-year-old wife and mom was thrilled to find out she was pregnant with her second child. at 17 weeks she began to miscarry. because of the uncertainty around texas abortion laws doctors hesitated in giving her care. texas has the oldest nation's abortion ban and has prohibited doctors from ending the heart beat of a fetus. even though doctors should have tried to empty her uterus to stave off an infection, they

didn't. her husband says that doctors told them it would be a crime to perform an abortion. for 40 agonizing hours josseli prayed for help. three days after that she delivered, but she died of an infection. a death that more than a dozen experts say was preventable. joining us now is nancy northrup, the president of the center for reproductive rights. josseli was one of at least two pregnant women in texas who died after doctors delayed emergency care. what do you think people will take away from this story? >> i think what they're taking away from this story is that it is dangerous to live in any state that bans abortion. i mean, josseli's story is absolutely unacceptable. she should have got the health care. when she got to the hospital, there was no chance for her

pregnancy to survive. she was 17 weeks pregnant and delivering. the fact that 40 hours she waited, it's just -- imagine for her those last days of her life he didn't get care and died of sepsis. it's unacceptable. propublica has been doing an amazing job. they reported on the tragic deaths of the women in georgia and they're coming forth with the stories from texas. it's just the tip of the iceberg. we'll find this happening in every state where there are abortion bans. >> josseli died in 2021 before roe was overturned, but texas had a restriction in place that got around roe. now are doctors in other states dealing with similar situations? >> absolutely. we're hearing about it in all the states where there are abortion bans. women are being air lifted out of idaho in the middle of pregnancy complications. it's just a situation that's a

health care crisis, you know, across the nation. women are having to travel out of state. if you're in this kind of an emergency situation, you can't travel out of state. for heaven sakes, she was in the emergency room for 40 hours before she got care. it was too late. >> there are a lot of women who have miscarriages, which is what this also really, i think, is striking about this and so heart breaking. since the fall of roe in 2022 and 2023, seven states have had abortion ballot measures. in all seven voters sided in favor of abortion rates in states like kansas, kentucky and montana. this election there are ten states with abortion on the ballot -- arizona, colorado, florida, maryland, missouri, montana, nebraska, nevada, new york and south dakota. nancy, two years after that dobbs decision that overturned

roe, is the energy still there on the ground for these ballot measures to succeed? >> absolutely. there was a lot of energy that it took to get these ballot measures on the ballot, right? had to go out and select signatures. some cases they had to be fighting in the courts because they tried to stop the voters from getting their say. a lot of energy getting them on the ballot and getting them passed. voters know -- as you said it, we've seen it in conservative states. they still vote for abortion rights. they want control over their reproductive health, lives and future. >> texas goes further than many other states. it was the first state that allowed citizens to sue physicians who provide abortion care after six weeks of pregnancy. they can be sued for $10,000. doctors who perform abortions can face criminal charges, prison time. do laws like these contribute to a culture of fear in texas?

>> well, absolutely. i mean, the maximum penalty in texas for violating the abortion ban is 99 years in prison. it's very hard to be able to give the care you need to the patient in front of you when over your shoulder is the possibility of a life sentence in prison. so it is -- doctors are stuck in a bad place because of the texas abortion law. you know, women are suffering. women are suffering. unfortunately texas does not have an opportunity for its citizens to put an initiative on the ballot to amend their constitution. in the states that do, they can take into their own hands making sure they can control their reproductive decisions. >> nancy, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate that conversation. still ahead, the collision between social media and politics in what could be the first tiktok election. plus, the sun belt showdown.

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welcome back. arizona is not only one of the biggest presidential battle grounds yet again this election year, it's got a hot senate race to watch as well. all week we've been checking in on critical senate races across the country. today's installment takes us to the state where ruben gallego and kari lake are battles. gallego is ahead 51 to 43%, within the margin of era. i want to bring in our phoenix reporter. gallego is up, but it's close. what are we seeing from both candidates in the home stretch? >> reporter: well, nobody believes ruben gallego will win by 8 points. it's probably closer than that. a poll recently showed it was a

dead heat. that might be an outlier. he's solidifying his base. he's holding a rodeo friday night. kari lake has brought senator tom cotton in to town. it's a tough fight and an uphill fight for kari lake right now. the striking thing about the polling is that she trails donald trump in every poll that we've had in arizona. you know, there aren't any coattails there. the question is -- we always ask the split ticket question here. who supports trump and gallego at the same time? it might be a margin large enough to carry ruben gallego, but not kari lake. >> interesting to hear about the divergence. arizona is a key swing state. nbc news has been talking to a lot of arizona voters. one trump supporter said he believed trump's claims that he

actually won in 2020, false claims. he didn't buy similar claims from kari lake in her last election. let's take a listen. >> how about the 2022 governor's race with kari lake, do you think that was a fair election? >> i think it was fair and quite honestly i think what happened is the mccain republicans in arizona hate donald trump so much that they sat on the sidelines. a number of prominent republicans in this state did not endorse kari lake. they didn't endorse anybody. >> so he'll me understand why trump would be more popular with republicans than kari lake in her state. >> reporter: it's a really, really good question. what we hear from voters is basically there's only one donald trump and kari lake is

kind of a copy. she's trying too hard to be like him, attach herself to him. you know, also, she's been running for three years. she lost the governor's race. hasn't let that go. the day after the election the arizona supreme court was going to decide whether to declare her governor. it's a day after the election. that's still out there. she's attaching herself to donald trump and it was good to get off the ground, but she's not changed in three years running for the governor's race, running for the senate now. she's the same person. offers nothing different and it just doesn't work. again you hear it, only one donald trump. >> yet she's changed her position on issues like abortion a number of times which speaks to what you talk about in terms of authenticity and trying to connect with voters who don't know really what she represents. we've seen lots of early voting in arizona. more than 1.7 million people have voted in that state. how are those early votes

breaking down by party and what do you expect to see from the early results on election night? >> reporter: what's interesting here as well as around the country in 2020 republican voters got the order don't vote early, even though here in arizona republicans have been voting early for decades. now the message is going out vote early. we're seeing a larger turnout among republicans for the early vote. right now they account for about 41% of all votes. democrats are keeping pace with the republican turnout, but they only account for about 34% of the votes. here's something to watch. democratic registration fell off a cliff in arizona in 2022. they now trail republicans by about 280,000. that could come into play, especially in a state where you need not only your democrats, but republicans and independents for a democrat to win statewide. >> great to have you with us. it was an insightful conversation.

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page serves as their news feed as they wade through the tsunami of influencers online they see comedians like this. >> taylor swift doesn't realize this, but kamala is going to kill your dog. she's going to eat your dog. >> i'm kamala harris and today i'll be showing you my old job at mcdonald's. we all know a whopper. >> those two comedians are here with us live in studio taking us behind thecurtain. matt friend and sienna hubert roth are joining us now. those are fun videos. you've been busy. >> it has been crazy. thank you for having us. >> it is great to have you. matt, you've been creating political impression videos for multiple election cycles, right? >> yes. >> how has social media, in particular tiktok and this election changed the way comics like you test the political waters? >> i mean, i think it is

enormous discoverability tool where people like me couldn't generate such a platform and have opportunities like this to appear on your show or kind of get this level of visibility without a platform like tiktok behind me. i started posting this content early pandemic, right after i graduated college, and then it got into the political world and then i got to perform at the correspondents' dinner a few months ago and now do hits like this. it has been a very exciting time, but i think just this level of eyeballs, anyone can create anything and have their own take on it, and it's crazy. they're eating the dogs, i had to go out on the street and do it quickly. >> i have so many questions, just about personally how you, you know, get into character and all that. but let's plow forward for a moment. sienna, i want to hear from you as well. you started doing these harris impersonations after biden dropped out of the race. you racked up tens of millions of views. talk to me about your approach and what you're trying to accomplish. >> right, well, i really

identified with harris and my first video was of her talking about working at mcdonald's and i was, like, i just -- i just love her charisma on everything and i just took a really silly approach and i think i'm very gen z in my generation, we're burnt out from the political space, i was, like, you know, i'm going to be very silly with it took off unexpectedly, i bought a wig one day and i guess it is my thing now. >> who is your audience online, matt, and does it change at all with the news cycle? >> it is interesting. i have a hybrid of young people and older people because i do a lot of topical pop culture stuff and in the political space it skews a little older because as much as i think gen z people care about mitch mcconnell, i'm not sure they really do, so, yeah, mitch mcconnell, the one impression that kills in the comedy clubs these days, but i think a hybrid of people and that's the beauty of social media and tiktok and snapchat

and instagram, building your own following and anyone can find it. >> you recently filmed with harris and previously president obama, who you actually interviewed in character as obama. let's watch a clip of that. >> hey there, everybody. this is barack obama and i am here with -- >> i'm actually barack obama. >> well, actually, barack, mr. president, actually. ♪ amazing grace how sweet ♪ >> he's also hitting the notes better. >> i appreciate that. that's what i do. jump shot. we do our research. come on now. >> what was that like? >> it felt like a hallucination. i walked in there, and, like, childhood hero, just standing there and he goes, that's actually pretty good. and i think you got to work on it, but it's solid. so, i'm glad i got to pack in all the obama greatest hits in like a 60-second moment. and i didn't have another

opportunity to do another take. so it was definitely surreal n what other country -- i'm not going to go to the kremlin and do a putin impression next to putin. it was a very unique opportunity, for sure, very surreal. >> sienna, you're taken your shtick and worn your harris costume to trump events. what is that like? >> i'm not going to lie, i was a little nervous when i got there. i went to one in vegas. it was a little chaotic. a lot of people recognized my version of her online. they, you know, they weren't -- they were kind, and it was nice to see that a lot of people can just, like, laugh online no matter what side that you're on. i do think that ultimately being so present on social media will impact voter turnout, which i think is the most important thing. >> we all need more laughs these days, especially.

real quickly if you will, matt, i can't let you go without addressing the elephant in the room, so to speak, given what we have been talking about here all week long. and the firestorm that was sparked from that trump rally at madison square garden, the comments about puerto rico being garbage by another comedian, tony hinchcliffe, and i wonder, matt, i know -- i want to get your perspective as a comic. i know you have also written about how especially in this polarization that we're experiencing as a society, and with our politics and with social media in particular you have found limits to comedy during these times. how did you view what happened and the remarks in that rally and the blowback? >> my teacher in first grade after i made an inappropriate joke in class looked me in the eye and said there is a time place for everything. not necessarily sure the place for that sort of a joke, if you call it, i think, like, joe rogan was actually talking about the fact that, like, don rickles

was in a unique category, he was roasting reagan, everybody was prepared for the comedic moment but had a softer, lighter touch. with this, it wasn't like capped with, you know, it is all out of love, we can come together and laugh, it was more of a taking one political stance and i thought the jokes were just kind of low brow and weren't particularly original in that moment. so if it is an original thought that, you know, isn't particularly impressive, i guess that's a different thing. i just didn't really think it added anything. >> and there is a line even in there. thank you, both, so much. matt friend, sienna hubert ross, thank you, both. check out matt's new podcast "friend in high places" wherever you get your podcasts. our special election coverage begins tomorrow. jose diaz-balart will be alongside me starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern followed by andrea, chris, katy, who will pick up the afternoon coverage. and for now, i'll say thank you.

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