good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. five days until election day. and both vice president harris and former president trump are making their final campaign pushes. today, both contenders are on the southwest swing. vice president harris heading to phoenix before making two stops in nevada. donald trump holding an event in new mexico, which is voting democratic in every presidential election over the past two decades. this comes amid fallout from president biden's comments on tuesday, when he appeared to call trump's supporters garbage. the president has since said he was referring to the comedian at trump's sunday rally that made racist jokes about puerto rico. the white house also released a transcript of biden's remarks arguing his comment was about one person and not a group.

donald trump leading into the president's gaffe, speaking to the press next to a garbage truck and showing up to a rally in a safety vest. here is some of what he had to say. >> crooked joe biden finally said what he thinks about our voters, garbage, no way. you can't lead america if you don't love americans. that's true. >> joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli in phoenix, also with us nbc news correspondent steve patterson in new mexico. steve, donald trump is taking his campaign to new mexico. not been a battleground state for the presidency. what is the reasoning behind it? >> yeah, it is not some suddenly new battleground now, jose. new mexico is solidly blue. it has voted for a democrat in every presidential election since 2004. the calculus hasn't changed. looking at public polling, donald trump is well outside of the margin of error in nearly

every single poll, anywhere from five to nine points. so the question here is this -- is this confidence or is this hubris? we have been speaking to reporters who are embedded with the trump campaign, speaking directly to campaign officials. their line is that it is confidence that the campaign is so nationalized and trump can make waves no matter what state he's in with voters no matter where he is that he can deserve to be in a place like new mexico. and if there are a few extra pickups he can make, he should be here. if arizona starts going strongly from him, campaign officials believe that that kind of support, that kind of juice can bleed over into a place like new mexico. they are extremely confident in their chances and they figure why not? we're on our way to nevada, another key swing state. we got the backdrop of a border state here. let's make some immigration policy and economic policy announcements while we're here. that's what we expect. meanwhile, trump obviously

playing with the 2020 campaign playbook, looking at a place like pennsylvania and already making allegations about voting there. our reporters spoke to him about whether or not he would concede the election if no fraud was found. here's what he said sai . >> as mentioned, the campaign starts here and pushes on to nevada and then arizona for what could be the last west coast sweep before the election. jose? >> and, mike, meanwhile, the vice president is also taking her campaign to the southwest. what is her message? >> well, jose, it is all about

the sprint to the finish for vice president kamala harris. she's got that refined stump speech down, she's been delivering it across the country. we saw it yesterday, three different battleground states, north carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin. today, she's bringing it out west, it is likely her final trip here to these critical battlegrounds. arizona is what biden -- harris campaign advisers refer to as part of the sun belt strategy. she'll also be traveling, making two stops in nevada, reno and las vegas. and she's deploying some star power to help her make that closing argument. she'll have a major band with a huge following among mexican americans performing here in phoenix and then she'll bring jennifer lopez to her side at her las vegas rally tonight. this is part of what we're seeing from the campaigns in terms of message at this point. they're trying to keep the blinders on, avoiding distractions like what we saw yesterday, the harris campaign dealing with president biden's comments, but also being quick to adapt and to jump and to seize on potential gaffes by their opponents.

jennifer lopez's appearance is speaking to the ability to appeal to puerto rican voters based on the comments from trump supporters at the madison square garden rally over the weekend. harris campaign advisers are focused today on what we heard from the candidate himself yesterday, donald trump, talking about women needing to be protected, whether they like it or not. this is something the campaign already amplified in some social media messaging, we're likely to hear it from the candidate herself and this is a key part of what the campaign believes is a really hidden vote out there that isn't being necessarily reflected fully in these polls. women voters turned up in huge numbers in 2022, unexpected numbers to help deliver victories for democratic candidates for senate and governors races in those midterm elections and think it is going to be there for kamala harris on election day. she's going to continue making this sprint to the finish, we're learning more about her campaign schedule in the closing days, including closing things out in that most important perhaps battleground state of pennsylvania. building a huge stage -- >> mike, i'm going to interrupt you, sorry, the vice president

is actually speaking right now. she goes between campaign stops. let's listen in. >> -- heading west, in three states again today talking with the american people about the stakes of this election. and the opportunity that we the american people have to chart a new way forward. i will comment on the former president donald trump's remark about women, and whether they like it or not. and, listen, it is just -- it actually is very offensive to women in terms of not understanding their agency, their authority, their right and their ability to make decisions about their own lives, including their own bodies. and this is just the latest on a series of reveals by the former president of how he thinks about women. and their agency. whether he has said as he has

that women should be punished for their choices, whether he has talked about his pride in taking away a fundamental right from women, whether it be how he has actually created a situation in america where now one in three women lives in a trump abortion-ban state and has legal restrictions on the right she rightly should have to make decisions about her own body. the other point i will refer to about the last many hours is the speaker's comments about the affordable care act. look, i've been saying throughout this campaign, be very clear that among the stakes in this election are whether we continue with the affordable care act, or not. it has been a part of donald trump's agenda for a very long time. he has made dozens of attempts to get rid of the affordable care act. and now we have further validation of that agenda from

his supporter, the speaker of the house. and what that would mean for the american people is that -- that insurance companies could go back to a time when they would deny you coverage for health insurance, based on pre-existing conditions. pre-existing conditions such as being a survivor of breast cancer, asthma, diabetes. and what i know is that the american people, regardless of who they're voting for, know the importance of the affordable care act, of -- as it is also called obamacare, in terms of expanding people's coverage to healthcare based on a fundamental principle i hold deeply, access to healthcare should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. so there is still a lot of work to do. but each day, i think there are also indications that we are receiving from my opponent that verify, validate and reinforce the fact that he's not going to be fighting for women's

reproductive rights, he does not prioritize the freedom of women and the intelligence of women to make decisions about their own lives and bodies, and healthcare, for all americans, is on the line in this election as well. i'll take your questions. >> yeah, you know, since the beginning stages of your campaign you've described yourself as an underdog. that language is gone from your speech now. has something changed in how you're feeling? >> no, listen, i'm putting it all on the field. and it is going to be a very tight race. and i'm running like the underdog because we are. donald trump has been running for the last decade. i've been in this race about three and a half months. and the stakes are so high. but i've been saying for quite some time, regardless of what the polls say, we are going to win. i do believe that. because i do believe that this is a choice about two very different directions for our country, and the choice being offered by donald trump is about

going backward about a constant emphasis on degrading the american people and our capacity, versus a track that is about bringing the country together, knowing we have more in common than what separates us, and we should have a plan which i do to actually get things done, including bringing down the cost of living for people, investing in our small businesses, expanding access to healthcare, investing in american industries including the future of american industries. and american workers. so, there you go. >> well, you talked about what the former president said being offensive to women. >> i think it is offensive to everybody, by the way. >> that was my question. the hypermasculinity that he is talking about, do you -- what do you think about it possibly resonating with men and male voters, specifically? >> you've been following me. and you will see that in the tens of thousands of people who

attend our rallies, which is an opportunity to talk about the issues, talk about the future of our country, right, there are men, women, young people, people of every race, every background, one of the points i think that is a point of pride for everyone who attends and including myself, is that our campaign really is about bringing people together, people of very different and diverse backgrounds around a common theme that is about love of country, defending the constitution of the united states, and investing in our future. and rejecting the notion that we are divided or that that should be acceptable that we would be divided as a nation. so, i'm very proud to have the support of men, women, young people, people of every background. >> ebony? >> we know we have five days until the election. how are you going to continue to draw the contrast with former president donald trump, specifically with the undecided voters as the pool is really

shrinking now? >> i will continue as we will do today, as we did yesterday, and so on, to talk with people where they live, so, again, here in wisconsin, heading to arizona, heading to nevada, to talk with people about issues like how we're going to deal with price gouging, corporate price gouging, how we're going to invest in small business and expand access to capital, how i will give first time homeowners a $25,000 down payment assistance if they are first time home buyer to help them get their foot in the door. these are the issues that the american people want to talk about. because these are the issues that affect them. these are the issues they think about had they're sitting at their kitchen table or trying to go to sleep at night. and what i know is that they want a president of the united states who as i say will walk into the oval office, with a to-do list, and not an enemies list. and that's what i will continue to do over the course of the next few days to let folks know i see them, i hear them, and i'm

prepared to address their challenges with a plan that is about getting things done. >> thank you. >> madam vice president, can you talk about hispanics? can you say something about hispanic voters going into today? >> okay. there you saw the vice president, madison, wisconsin, as she goes from one campaign stop to the other in these final days of the election. taking some questions and focusing on essentially two points today that she wants to underline. the issue of donald trump and women, and healthcare. mike memoli and steve patterson are still with us. mike, the vice president, once again, there was a question there, how do you break through and continue focusing the message in these final days. >> reporter: well, jose, tens of millions of americans have already voted. we see that and we're updating the numbers hour by hour as we get them in. the campaigns are so focused on the shrinking pool of

persuadable or undecided voters who are still out there. that's why you heard the vice president say she's leaving it all out on the field. and it has been interesting to watch the vice president over the last few days because before she heads out on the road and making multiple stops and multiple states, she has taken the opportunity to speak to reporters to try to set the agenda. yesterday when she spoke to reporters before hitting the trail, it was to play a little defense about what president biden had said, but today you see her really seeing an opportunity to go on offense on two of the most powerful issues that democrats feel potentially could give them a boost. we have seen the way abortion rights have animated democratic voters in the midterm elections in 2022, we talked about that earlier. they think that's a major factor that is driving some of the core constituencies to the polls. but also interesting to hear her talk about healthcare and what speaker johnson has talked about in terms of a republican houseworking with a potential president trump wanting to yet again take up the affordable care act potential repeal and

replace of the signature legislation from president obama. that has been an animating issue, even as we talk about inflation and the economy that have been so important. the vice president laid out how she wants to address them. this is something so clear and crystallizing for those persuadable voters out there, the real consequences to their lives if there is a change of administration from democrat to republican, they're going to maybe be hitting that even more. >> steve patterson, the challenge for both of these campaigns is who controls the narrative or the oxygen as far as what is being spoken about. >> reporter: and i think donald trump is trying to create his own narrative. it really is sort of a campaign that is based in darkness, these are issues that trump says are affecting every state in the country based on immigration, based on the economy, he's calling these problems that only he can solve. that's why you see him in new mexico, he truly believes he's

created this majority coalition of independents, of disaffected democrats, of moderate republicans, who maybe didn't vote for him last time, and are not showing up in the current polling now, but that they will turn up for him come election day. the campaign very confident, otherwise they feel like they wouldn't be here in new mexico at all. >> mike memoli and steve patterson, thank you, both, so very much. and turning now to some breaking news. this morning elon musk, was due in court following a lawsuit filed against him and the super pac by the district attorney of philadelphia. the d.a. is trying to stop his $1 million a day giveaway to registered voters arguing they may be in an illegal lottery. joining us now from the courthouse in philadelphia, lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent. good morning. what exactly is this all about. >> reporter: well, jose, what this is about is the lottery that elon musk's america pac has

been running, where if you are a registered voter or become a registered voter in one of seven swing states and go to his pac's website, you can then sign a petition, which makes you eligible for a lottery of sorts where one voter a day wins a million dollars. so far he's given away $12 million including to four pennsylvanians. and that's what prompted philadelphiakraz krasner come h elon musk from doing that. instead of walking away with an injunction this morning, what happened last night is really what has changed everything. elon musk now trying to move this case to federal court and by doing so has effectively paused state court proceedings. i want to give you an opportunity to listen to one of d.a. krasner's lawyers who spoke

as he was coming out of court today. >> we are going to handle this case and continue to handle this case on mischief night. elon musk and his pac, amer pac filed legal papers to have the case removed from this court to federal court and we will proceed to federal court and we will address the issues there and seek to have the matter remanded back to the state court. after all, this is a case that involves state law issues. >> reporter: so, jose -- >> with the election day five days away, do you see a resolution on this one way or another before election day? >> reporter: i'm not sure that we will see that, jose, because as you can see, there has been a lot of legal gamesmanship about where this case even belongs in

the first place. the d.a. and his team are now back at square one. they have a choice, they can seek an injunction from the federal court or they can fight having the case in federal court to begin with. and try to get it sent back to the state court. in the limited hearing that was held this morning, the lawyers were telling the judge, look, we're going to federal court this afternoon, we're going to tell them this case actually belongs back here, we raised valid state law claims, you should stay available because we think we might be back here as recent -- as early as this afternoon. we'll just have to wait and see. but, clearly this is a delay and so far today it is working. >> lisa rubin in philadelphia, thank you. we'll take a closer look at vice president harris' response to trump's remarks on protecting women. we heard her talking a little bit about that in that live broadcast. plus, how both candidates are reaching out to a key voting

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22 past the hour. as part. swing state push, former president trump held a rally in wisconsin, he spoke about migrant crime and had this message about women. >> anyone who would let monsters kidnap and kill our children does not belong anywhere near the oval office. and my people told me about four weeks ago i say, no, i want to protect the people, i want to protect the women of this country. sir, i think it is inappropriate for you to say. i pay these guys a lot of money. can you believe it? i said, well, i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. >> and just in the last couple of minutes, you saw and heard it right here, vice president harris responding calling these latest comments from the former president insulting not just to women, but to everyone. joining us now, david drucker, senior writer at the dispatch and val demings of florida and

stewart stevens, mitt strategi campaign. we heard about what the former president said about women. what did you make of it? >> jose, certainly there was nothing wrong with her response, but as someone who has been in the protecting business for real, there are no surprises at least to me about what the former president has said. he has quite the reputation of forcing himself on women and guess what, whether they like it or not. and so i know there has been a lot of discussion about women will decide this election. but i am appealing to men and women who believe in protecting women in the right ways, to please vote for vice president harris because she is the only person in this race who has

demonstrated throughout her public service career that she is truly interested in protecting women. donald trump has demonstrated just the opposite and is yet again clearly messaging how he really feels about women. the second class citizens that he believes we are. >> stewart, the vice president has consistently delivered a message of unity, but at the same time the vice president and certainly other surrogates of hers have called trump fascist, and other things. how does that message equate when you have two different messages about that same candidate? >> i think it is a great question. it was a great challenge for the harris campaign. they had this challenge of addressing issues that people care about, like the border,

like economy, like how much gas costs, housing, but not allowing it to become normalized. this is not a race like romney versus obama. and that's a difficult balance. but from where i sit, i think they pulled it off brilliantly. in each of these moments that she has, she is able to encapsulate the stakes, what it means to you personally, what it means as a country. and what your vote says is more about you than about donald trump. everybody knows who donald trump is. the question is who are you. so i've always felt that the higher the stakes were in this election, the better that the vice president would do. so, i think they have done a great job. >> and, david, how does the harris campaign continue to -- or reclaims that closing message as being the message that

everyone hears? >> right, well, that's a challenge for a candidate. you have to make an affirmative case for yourself. whether you're asked about your opponent or not, you're going to have to make some contrasts and so what are you going to say about him, why should voters oppose him? and i think the challenge for the harris campaign and the vice president has been to try and remind voters why they ousted donald trump in the first place after one term, given when you look at polling, people remember him a lot better than they felt about him when he was president. and they sort of memory hold that year of the pandemic and it is not even that they're not holding it against them, it is like it doesn't exist and even the former president in the last, you know, are you better of than you were four years ago, four years ago still in the middle of a pandemic, people weren't too happy, they didn't feel better off. that's how the sentiment about donald trump has changed in this era, short era of higher

inflation and instability overseas. when i spoke to democratic strategists in the past few days, what they were telling me was that, yes, she has to contrast herself with trump, the key they felt was to talk about what other republicans were saying about him versus just her saying it. right? you don't have to call him a fascist. that may seen over the top. but you can talk about what john kelly had to say about him, what milley, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, had to say about him. but job number one, make an affirmative case for yourself on the economy and the border and what you're going to do to lower costs. it is a delicate balancing act for her and, you know, we'll see how voters feel about it when we're done counting votes, whenever that's going to be. >> just thinking about for someone who has been involved in campaigns of different orders, the -- how do you get out the vote is so critical, always. but now, right? the get out the vote in the next

couple of days and certainly on the 5th of november, what do you see as the vice president's strength in enthusiasm, in getting people to vote, and what do you see as the former president's strength? >> i was doing okay until you asked me about the former president's strength. but let me start with him, with that very difficult question. look, he's a known commodity. they know him. he's been the president. he was the president for four years. all of the rhetoric that he suddenly now wants to criticize others for we heard the divisive hateful racist rhetoric coming out of his mouth on multiple occasions. but they know him. the vice president's role is quite different. she still has to use every opportunity and she is to get out into those battleground states. she's zigzagging across the country, to still talk about who she is and why she wants to

serve and has a clear plan of what she will do once elected as president of the united states. look, jose, we need every second of the last five days to continue to run through the tape, she's got to be out there, she's out there, she's got to use her surrogates effectively, she's doing that, but we cannot let up until the last vote is counted. >> stewart, i'm just wondering when we see as val was saying that the vice president, but also donald trump are zigzagging much of the country the next five days and certainly going, you know, a couple of states a day. what do you see when you see where, for example, trump is deciding to spend his last five days, including today in new mexico and where the vice president is spending her days? >> i think the technical political term for donald trump campaigning in new mexico is it

is insane. it is just a vanity act that he's in. and whoever told him to get out there and in a vest in a garbage truck is a good look, they forgot about michael dukakis in the tank, you think his staff must hate him, why are they doing these things to him? one campaign looks like it has composure, knows what it is doing, it is about executing a plan. the other seems to be very erratic and responsive and who is in control of the dialogue in this campaign? and it is hard to argue that it is not the harris campaign. you have trump responding to it all the time. so, look, you know, i think the question that you are asking campaigns every night, would you rather be my candidate or the other candidate? i think i would much rather be the harris campaign going into this final stretch. >> david, val, stewart, thank

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at least 155 people are dead, many others still missing after devastating flash floods in the valencia region of spain. that's according to spanish officials. people there could be seeing more rain today. look at the pictures. this is -- it went from zero to 1,000, one resident was saying, in a matter of moments. look at this. cars being swept away. villages turned to rivers, knocked out power. as the years' worth of rain poured down in eight hours. take a look at this. this is one of the main streets. there have been so many rescues, many heroic, look at this. a moment where valencia firefighter rescues a woman and her dog trapped in floodwaters, now one of the deadliest floods in europe. this it is a very serious disaster. turning back now to politics, today, vice president harris and

former president trump is zeroing in on battleground states where they will be making their final push for a critical group of voters. latino men. david noriega spoke to some of the voters in tucson, arizona, he's with us this morning. what did you learn? >> reporter: one of the biggest questions hanging over this election is whether donald trump is actually going to make inroads with people of color in the way a lot of polls and reporting suggests he might be able to do. now, in nevada and arizona, where i was this week, whether he does so or not comes down largely to latino men. and if he does or not will have implications not just for next week, but for the next decade or more of american politics. take a look. even with voting well under way in key swing states, both campaigns are still scrambling for a small but crucial slice of the vote. latino men. >> i'm so proud that we're getting support from latinos like never before.

>> part of the agenda that i rolled out that i am very aware how it would affect latino men, for example. >> reporter: men like this man, a manager at a roofing supply company in tucson. he's not donald trump's biggest fan, but he'll be voting for him anyway. what is your main issue to vote? >> to me, the main topic is economy because i live on it pretty much on a daily basis. like increase on groceries, increase of rents, increase on materials that we sell to our customers. >> reporter: in the last eight years, trump has made steady gains with latinos. much of that is driven by men. while harris leads trump by 26 points with hispanic women, the candidates are tied with hispanic men. he's popular with young men without college degrees, like chris gonzalez, an employee at gustavo's roofing supply company. >> i love he's not censored by

anybody. >> reporter: do you think some of the things he says are offensive or inflammatory? >> he can be over the top sometimes. but that's just one of the reasons why i like him. >> reporter: some view donald trump's gains with latinos as part of a historic realignment. others are more cautious, waiting to see whether election results match the polling. >> harris campaign knows they have been losing these voters and need to invest heavily to preserving as many as possible for the homestretch before the vote. >> we got a spanish team of volunteers dedicated to reaching spanish-speaking voters. so we're being super intentional about our outreach here to make sure people turn out and vote. >> reporter: in spanish language tv ads, the harris campaign outspent its rivals. it launched an initiative with much of the messaging on the economy and pulling in celebrity heavy hitters. on some issues, polls much better than trump. >> we have a lot of family that

are dreamers. and if trump gets his way, he's going to get rid of them. >> i think if kamala gets into office, i don't think much will change, i think it will get worse. >> reporter: in a state that biden won by less than one third of 1%, it is one of this year's biggest questions, will there be enough voters like chris to carry trump back to the white house? jose that voter you heard from there, chris gonzalez, he already voted early. so trump has his vote in the bag. but still a gamble for the trump campaign. this demographic, they're among the lowest propensity voters out there. there is no guarantee that trump will actually be able to cash in on those gains come november 5th. jose? >> dave noriega, thank you very much. happening now, governor walz is speaking in bucks county, pennsylvania. you can see there. he's speaking. they're on an all-out blitz, both the harris campaign and the

trump campaign. and certainly we were talking about with david on latino voters, there and in wisconsin will also be crucial in deciding this election. joining us now from franklin, wisconsin, the president of forward latino, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that helps latinos get out and vote. thank you for being with us this morning. so far this election season your organization has knocked on over 8,000 doors in the south side milwaukee area. what have you seen? >> we're seeing tremendous amount of excitement that we really haven't seen before. whole new level of voter engagement as we're knocking on the doors, we're hearing from people that already made their voting plan, they're going to pick up their parents to go to the voting booth as well. as a demographic that lagged with voter turnout, we're excited about what we have seen so far.

>> what are you seeing is the reason that low propensity voters, and we're specifically talking about latino men, but also latino women, what are you seeing as the factors that are getting them to be now much more engaged? >> i think it is being invited into the process and learning how to do things and how to do it the right way. we're so proud to be partnering with hispanic federation, so many other organizations as part of this big grassroots movement to get people out to vote. let them know where they need to go to vote, what forms of voter i.d. they need, et cetera and we're encouraging them to take their children voting with them, so that these young children learn the importance of voting as well. as we move from one generation to another, you know, we continue to increase the voter turnout. >> and how have you seen your efforts change compared to past elections? >> well, traditionally we had to do a lot of voter protection work and still doing that this year, monitoring polls, taking

questions, making sure everybody can vote. we're doing meaningful get out to vote efforts and it is going to have a big impact. >> so, what do those efforts -- what i'm wondering is when you have a moore solid robust organization, what are some of the things you're able to do that maybe in the past you weren't? >> yeah. well, we're able to are printed materials that show, we have gotten new maps drawn because of some highly partisan issues that happened near wisconsin. we're able to give them information as to where to go vote, where their polling place is, able to give it to them in english and spanish and we're able to deploy more teams out there. so, once again, we can knock on more doors and make sure everybody is able, everybody is eligible is able to exercise their lawful right to vote. >> just wondering, how important

is it reaching them in spanish and how has that played a part? >> we have the people knocking on the doors, they're bilingual, they can speak english and spanish. people aren't afraid to open the doors and are willing to ask the questions that they haven't been able to willing to ask otherwise. it is so much easier when you hear things in your native or first born language, so we're so able to be able to provide this, fortunate to be able to provide this service to our community. >> and, thank you so very much. appreciate your time. >> thank you, jose. have a great day. >> you have seen him on the big screen, actor mandy patinkin is going to be with us. he's kind of playing a new role and, mandy, i'm so excited at the opportunity to speak with you. thank you. we'll chat in just a minute. you. thank you. we'll chat in just a minute.

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50 past the hour. former president trump made an issue of what he calls fighting the deep state, slamming some of his former national security officials even. here is some of what he had to say just yesterday. >> i just saw general kellogg wherever he may be. there he is. look at that general. he is a real general, not like milley.

not like kelly. he is a low i.q. guy. this is a real general. he is great. >> earlier this month, hundreds of trump's former national security officials, including nikki haley, signed a letter endorsing. but hundreds of other national security officials, including secretaries of state, defense, signed a letter in support of vice president harris. mandy patinkin interviewed some of the officials for videos he has been posting online. >> for eight years, i played the director of the cia on this show called "homeland." i was a fake version of these real people. how are you? >> how are you? >> these folks know what they're talking about. they have worked under several administrations. many have supported and even worked for republican presidents in the past.

they feel the urgency to get kamala harris elected because she's abundantly qualified and because trump would be a true disaster. >> thrilled to have the opportunity to speak with you. thank you for being with us this morning. what made you decide to speak with some of these national security officials? >> we went to the dnc with my son hoping to collect material to put on our social media sites. a young man stopped us, he was cia, he was undercover. he said, we're trying to get attention to the fellows from the national security leaders for america who are coming out to say, out of their comfort zone to say how important it was that people realize what a threat he was to national security for our country and the world at large. we went into a studio. we taped these people. our mouths dropped open at what they had to say. my son went into gear and found

their point person. they are an organization of over 900 strong. we went down to pennsylvania, maryland, washington, d.c., virginia. we met over 15 of them in their homes over four days, driving here and there. my back went out. it was worth it for america's democracy and the security of our country. they were extraordinary, moving beyond words. many of them in tears. they couldn't sit down. many of them were republicans who spent their lives never speaking out against the commander in chief, whether he was in power or out of power. but they feel that this is a crisis moment, an existential moment. they can't sit still. >> mandy, you said your jaw dropped. what were the biggest surprises that you heard?

>> their emotionality, their passion. their patriotism. their love of this country. their concern for their fellow republicans and many of them are still republicans, but they feel they cannot, in good conscience, take a chance of putting trump in the white house for more years. they were in the position of seeing him in the white house before and what they did. i personally am very close friends with one of the highest people in national security in the country. i said to him, when we were shooting "homeland" in 2016, you were okay with it now and then things unfolded. i said, how are you now? now that he is in office? he said, now i'm worried. i said, why? because i have been with many of these president-elects and people running for president, and there's a change that happens once they are in that chair in that white house. i haven't seen that change. that terrifies me. >> i know you are part of a

group called heroes for harris. what's that about? >> i don't know. we're a bunch of guys. i was in "the princess bride." we played superhero characters. they got together. we have looked for every excuse possible to gather people in different arenas to raise money, raise funds, raise awareness. that was one of the things. the grateful dead was another. there was several that we have all jumped on the bandwagon for. this is the most crucial moment that i have seen in the political life of my country for all of us. i want to say to young people, i have it here, i believe the 50% of young people voted in 2020, that was an 11% increase from 2016. we need to get that higher. young people can make the difference. all kinds of people from every area of life. young people. no excuse. register, get out to vote. everyone knows somebody young.

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