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will land with voters, and is this race really as close as it seems? polling in the battleground state of pennsylvania shows a dead heat, but could they actually be hiding an election day surprise? a lot to get to today, but we start with donald trump who while trying to capitalize on the controversy over joe biden's garbage gaffe creates a new one adding to the campaign drama with five days to go. not long after he stage a made for tv photo op and a garbage truck, trump took the stage and took the very comments his advisers warned him about making even further for harris. >> my people told me about four weeks ago i would say, no, i want to protect the people. y want to protect the women of our country. i want to -- sir, please don't say that. why? they said we think it's very inappropriate for you to say so?

why? i'm president i want to protect the women of our country, and they said, well, i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. i'm going to protect them from migrants coming in. i'm going to protect them from foreign countries that want to hit us with missiles and lots of other things. >> it actually is very offensive to women in not understanding their agency, their authority and their right and their ability to make decisions about their own lives including their own bodies and this is just the latest on a series of reveals by the former president of how he thinks about women. >> as "the new york times" puts it, trump tried to cast the remarks as paternal and only served as reminders of many of his critics of misogynistic statements and the civil court case that found him liable for sexual abuse. nbc's vaughn hilliard is in

lawndale. mark mckinnon is former adviser to george w. bush and creator of the circus and co-founder of lift our voices, julie raginski. >> on the ellipse it seemed like kamala harris has a kind of the momentum and then biden's garbage comment caught fire. it goes back and forth, back and forth. how does harris take these remarks this time by donald trump and turn them back to her advantage? >> well, the good news is joe biden's not on the ticket so you don't have to worry about joe biden's comment, but donald trump is and there are four years, potentially god forbid because he's not particularly into the democratic with a small "d" mindset of donald trump being around and that's exactly him doing something to women whether they like it or not is why he owes e. jean carroll $90 million. it's exactly why countless women, more than a dozen have come out and said that he

sexually assaulted them or harassed them. it's why consistently women in texas and georgia and a third of this country live under trump abortion bans whether they like it or not when they have a miscarriage they can't help themselves because doctors are afraid to do anything to help them because of what donald trump put into place as president. all of of this is something that people knowingly are either voting for or not voting for. joe biden, you don't have to think about joe biden three months down the road, but you will be thinking about donald trump and how he's going to impact you, not just what he says and how his words and his deeds as president president and a potential future president are going to impact you, and that's something i think for people to think about and consider when they vote tuesday or even earlier than tuesday. >> i want to know what you make of the fact that trump and essentially his own advisers were saying not to say this, and not to talk about being a protector of women and he said

it first time at the msg rally on sunday and then he goes even a step further. whether they like it or not. >> they were giving him good advice and there's a reason why, and i think this is actually a pretty big deal because it is -- it is something that so reenforces harris' positive message and a negative message about trump and in a race that is so close, i think, and i've written about the fact that the two gaps, the gender gap and the enthusiasm gap will make the difference in this race and will win it for harris and all this does is give them more ammunition to create more of a gender gap and more of an enthusiasm gap for harris. i mean, it's not like they needed another reason and this is more powerful ammunition to get women out to vote whether trump likes it or not. >> julie, even though donald trump was talking about immigration and not abortion, harris has put out this

abortion-related headlines along with his remarks and i want to play that. >> they said, sir, i just think it's inappropriate for you to say. i said well, i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. whether the women like it or not am. whether the women like it or not. whether the women like it or not. i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. >> they're also talking about this, this is the latest reporting from propublica. a 28-year-old woman in texas. she had complications during pregnancy, she died after doctors held off on treating her because they were worried about a state law against abortion, and i wonder when you juxtapose those kinds of stories and that's not the first one, and many women have come forward including standing on the stage of the democratic national convention, alongside trump and an ad like that what's the impact of the final five days of the campaign. >> women don't want anybody and

certainly donald trump protecting them because the idea of protecting them is to allow them to die and bleed out as that woman did in texas and another women did in georgia and countless women did, because he was going to help the supreme court overturn roe versus wade by putting supreme court justices on the court to do that. listen, i have a husband. i have a father. i don't need either of them protectioning me, and i just need donald trump and other guys to get out of the way and leave us to take care of ourselves. most women are not on the fainting couch. just leave us alone and let us do what we need to do to make our lives better. god forbid i'm pregnant and something bad is happening with my body get out of my way and i will protect myself along with my doctor. it means when women are trying

to go around trying to get equal pay for equal work and trying to get respect from their bosses and trying not to be harassed on the job, someone like donald trump should not put them under ndas both in the trump organization and as president and certainly in his campaign. get out of our way. we will take care of ourselves. we're adults and we have our own agency, just give it to us and get out of our way and that's the opposite of what he's talking about. it's the opposite of what he did as president. it's the opposite of what he did as president and god forbid if he's president again. >> the protector of women whether they like it or not remarks, trump was arguably riding high about joe biden's remarks about garbage. complete with a photo-op. he went out there, he had the vest and kept the vest on. what's on tap for today? >> exactly. actually, i think we got a bite last night at the green bay rally and his garbage truck gaggle that he did before. let's take a listen. >> how do you like my garbage

truck? this truck is in honor of kamala and joe biden. they don't think in terms of garbage, okay? they don't use terms like that and it's a shame and joe biden should be ashamed of himself if he knows what he's even doing and she should be ashamed. she shouldn't let him do it. she's the vice president and she's acting like the president and i hope you enjoy this garbage truck. >> there was one point in time when a candidate was coming out west they would visit colorado, but that's not what going to happen today. he'll be making appearances in new mexico which consistently has been polling well below kamala harris as he and his campaign think they can expand the map. he'll be making a rally appearance in albuquerque before

making his way to las vegas and henderson, nevada and coming here later tonight where he'll join tucker carlson for an event just outside of phoenix in glendale, arizona. this for donald trump is going to be his last stop here in these key sunbelt battleground states and for donald trump, there is a reckoning like here in arizona and several states, there are abortion rights measures that are running parallel on the ballot to his presidential election to codify abortion protection rights here in the state of arizona. for donald trump there is a lot and he is trying to put some focus back on the biden/harris administration, trying to use remarks from president biden to turn the attention towards the idea that he is a unifier, not of just republicans and independents and those who are disaffected democrats and for him, he is trying to make the case by going to new mexico and virginia, as well that he intends to expand the electoral

map and change the maga movement and what american politics looks like today and so far what we see from the seven battleground states is a close race here and that is where you are seeing him finish the western swing before finishing in the midwest states. >> thank you so much for that, vaughn. mark, it's interesting. maybe his campaign and his advisers were against him making these comments and then they leaned into it and they issued a statement where they called it a big, beautiful garbage truck and of course, he kept the safety vest on and i want to play more of what donald trump said last night. >> i have to begin by saying 250 million americans are not garbage. kamala and joe call all of us and them -- even them, garbage. i call you the heart and soul of america -- you are the heart and soul. >> you've seen a lot on the

campaign trail. for his supporters and low-propensity republicans who don't like kamala harris, but maybe, just maybe are looking for an excuse to vote republican again. is it effective? >> listen, i don't think there are really undecided voters left at this point, chris. there are two things about that statement. one is joe biden made the statement, not harris and if it affects anybody it really affects his base. it will not do anything to undecided voters. base voters are committed and coming out anyway. the more important thing is this statement about women because i think that there is a reverse kind of secret trump vote -- effect out there. in 2016 republicans were afraid to speak out publicly and say they supported trump. i think there's something that the opposite happening that suburban republican women who are afraid to say publicly that

they're going to vote against trump and for harris because they have republican husbands and there's peer pressure. it's fuel for them to go in the suburbs and vote for harris. >> i wonder. >> willy, what you think about it, this idea -- and we saw it in 2016 people didn't want to state what you actually think. if you live in a republican community if your husband or partner is going to vote for donald trump you may not want to say it, but is that wishful thinking on harris supporters' parts? look at the gender gap and not just with polling and it's debatable whether it's accurate or not, but what we actually see and there is a massive gender gap and enthusiasm among women and not just independent women and potentially some republican women of coming out to vote in ways that their husbands or brothers or anybody -- men, i will say this.

there's a reason why donald trump keeps talking about this garbage stuff. he's desperate to run against joe biden and he's terrified of running against kamala harris because she represents change and represents the future, and by the way, she's not the one calling the american people who don't agree with donald trump vermin. he's calling people who are watching the show right now who are not trump supporters, he's calling you vermin and the enemy of the people, he's calling the press the enemy of the people and he's calling you the enemy from within and the garbage can. that's what he thinks of this country, and he's on the ballot. if you don't like what joe biden said, congratulations, you don't have to vote for joe biden. she's never denigrated 50% of the country that's voted for him and that's why he wants to lean into joe biden and he wants to talk about the past, she wants to talk about the future. >> always great to see you, as well and in 90 seconds donald

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mexico, and that has a lot of people asking why? a senior official who served on trump's 2020 campaign team told nbc news, quote, there's no chance that somebody who is focused on 270 electoral votes is going to virginia and new mexico. so donald trump is running his own campaign at this point. period. full stop, but one trump campaign official says they aren't wasting time telling nbc that if trump is going to that state, the campaign sees movement there. i want to bring in democratic governor of new mexico michelle lujan grisham. great to see you, governor. i guess the trump team sees available voters there. should should be a red flag to the harris campaign? >> i don't think it should be a red flag. i think it should be treated as we treat all of the confusing, hateful, strange, weird decisions made by this particular campaign. i have no doubt that the candidate of chaos is going to

try to create more chaos and controversy in all the western state, and i would expect that, you know, he's going to try to push hard on fear mongering for immigration, and i want to remind new mexicans, and i will, and i'm doing it right now and american, he's had multiple chances to solve problems and to really lean in for america and to do the right security work. he's for himself. he just wants a political issue. vice president harris has made really clear where she is on the border and she's ready to get a bipartisan immigration solution which is exactly when the country needs. so confused by his strategy, but it's more of donald trump. >> yours has the largest percentage of hispanic residents and that's what kamala harris

needs and has been courting. a poll has her up by one in nevada, but back in 2020 joe biden won those voters by 26. do you sense she's underperforming and why? >> well, the debate about underperforming with so many male voters in particular, not the least of which as you pointed out is looking at numbers that appear to have an underperformance component for latino or hispanic voters. look, they're getting to know her. everyone is feeling anxious post-covid and about the economy. she is the only candidate leaning in saying, look, we're going to save you at least $4,000 a year and we'll reduce everything from health care costs and prices to energy prices and we'll invest in small businesses and we'll reduce taxes. here's a state that has done all of those things and invested in middle american, middle new mexico families while providing middle-class families

significant tax breaks. so i know it can be done, i know it should be done, and he's really about himself and he's made it very, very clear, he's bigoted, he's divisive and wants to create anger and competition. that is not welcome rhetoric in this state, and i hope that hispanic voters all across the country perform like hispanic voters i expect to perform in new mexico which is lean in to effective policy that's all about their families and their opportunities and not the reverse of that. >> your argument is very similar to what kamala harris has made herself, but they're supporters of hers who have suggested when they see how tight this race is in spite of the amount of money spent, in spite of the controversial comments that donald trump has made, maybe a product of how short this race has been and how little time she's really had to introduce herself to the american public. does that make you a little

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they like it or not it's menacing and it's not just about reproductive freedoms, at least for me as a voter. i see that as having much darker consequences. women are dying. infant mortality is on the rise. she is clear about getting on the campaign trail and making these issues relevant to every voter because they are relevant to every voter, and he is doing the opposite. so it's going to be a close race. she was always the underdog. i think she has won a stunning campaign. she is strong, she is clear, she is ready and has a plan for america, and she has a to-do list and he has an enemies list. >> it was great to have you on the program. thank you so much. he was trying to give away millions of dollars, but will elon musk swing states sweepstakes end up costing him

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ask current v.p. candidate tim walz was in pennsylvania using the sports analogy to describe the state of the race. >> this game is tied and it's tied in pennsylvania. two minutes left on the clock, but we've got the damn ball. in this state and in bucks county one or two votes per precinct could not only swing the election in pennsylvania, but for the entire country. >> let's bring in pennsylvania's former democratic congressman connor lamb and cornell belcher, democratic pollster and msnbc political analyst. congressman, look, the vp says, the governor says you've got the ball. you've been campaigning in pennsylvania for kamala harris. does this dead heat polling reflect what you're seeing on the ground? >> i think it does. you know, there's just been so many visits by both campaigns, so much advertising, so much activity now for months that i think every possible voter has been talked to and contacted. so i'm not surprised it's close.

pennsylvania is always really close and within a point or two, but it seems accurate. i think we have the ball, though because of the field operation and ground game that the harris campaign has built and it's such a short period of time, too, and it's impressive. >> cornell, the deadlocked race is not only in pennsylvania, but in the other swing states and an msnbc news analysis notes the randomness inherent with polling suggests that we should be seeing a kind of broader range of results. so are voters actually split evenly or could we be in for a surprise? >> well, you can always be in for a surprise because, look, polling is not a predictor of the future, and i think we've had this conversation before, as a pollster, my job isn't to be, like, someone with a crystal ball and tell you what's going to happen in the future. look, there are always voters that are hanging out there in the fence and in a margin

there's enough wiggle room and enough voters still hanging out there to have the race break in one direction or another and until someone gets 50 plus one, anything can happen in this race, but stop looking at polling. let's look at what we have actually seen happen and historically, and by the way, pennsylvania is tight. it's always going to be tight. we don't have massive blowout races in this country at the national level. wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, and arizona and georgia, they're always going to be tight, right? that's just the very nature of it. you will not have a candidate at the national level win by six or seven points or they wouldn't be battleground states anymore or when you look at donald trump's support and you have 28% and unin 2016. what did he get in 2020? he got 48% and lost in 2020. i think if you look at where he is and consistently in the polling and he's roughly around 47, 48% and i'm sitting in the

trump campaign looking at history, i'm not going to win with 47, 48% in this coming election without real, dramatic voting by third party candidates like we saw in 2016. how do i get above 47, 48%, how do i, in fact, get to a plurality and that's been challenging in his numbers. >> so the ground game as connor lamb says is key here, but i wonder when you look at some of the things that have happened in just this week, the comments that were made at the rally by the trump rally by a comedian, what joe biden said, frankly, and donald trump's own comments just yesterday adding to, you know, being a protector of women whether they like it or not. is there any way to predict based on history how that might play or do we have to wait for

the exit polls as they're coming out of the voting booth? >> do you want me to go first? >> yeah. >> they're the x factors and the congressman knows this, right? there are always x factors that happen towards the end and it really is about who is mobilized. at this point, yes, toss-up race and on election day it will be determined what the actual turnout looks like and if that electorate which i suspect it will be will be more female than it typically is, that benefits harris. >> there's an interesting article, congressman in "the new yorker" they outline what they have an election task force and i'm quoting, preparing for multiple disruptions and the least likely scenario involves a large-scale natural disaster or violent attack on election day and there are lots of other disruptors that, if not changing the outcome of the election, could certainly delay us knowing

the outcome of the election, and i wonder how worried you are is ground zero for the electoral college many people believe and also believe ground zero for disruption and disinformation. >> i wouldn't say that i'm worried in part because i think governor shapiro and secretary of state al schmit here and many others are prepared in advance. a the least for the things that we can think about and foresee, i think that we're pretty well covered. that doesn't mean that the election is going to be resolved quickly. i mean, if it really is as close as we're all saying that it is, we're looking at weeks of litigation and challenges. the deadline to certify the elections in these counties isn't even until november 25th, and so if some county refuses to certify based on claims of fraud in their county, you could be seeing litigations starting november 26th. >> we know there are thousands

of lawyers just waiting. is there any doubt in your mind about -- well, i don't know. maybe you think it could be decided on election night or on wednesday. what do you think? >> i don't know about decided, but you know, i think there will be certain places where you can look at the results and if you understand politics, get a pretty decent feel for what's going to happen and we tend to talk about erie county and north hampton county, for example, but even where i live there are certain suburbs i'm going to look at and i feel i'm going to know from that who has the edge, but as far as a pure, final, legal resolution that could take weeks. >> could take weeks. connor lamb, cornell belcher. we're all in this together, gentlemen. i thank you for being on the show. if the race remains as tight as the poll suggests, that raises the question of redowns with rules varying state to state. nbc news national political reporter ben salazar has been looking at this, and ben, take

us through what we need to know. >> it sums up the conversation you just had. i'll start with the most important thing, whether it's reporters and election officials it's more important to be -- rather than be fast. there are a lot of election officials across the states in these key battle grounds who are willing and ready to be just that, meticulous and accurate. look, if these races do remain close in states like pennsylvania like we were just talking and wisconsin and the battleground states, there are processes to hold recounts in ways that are able to just ensure that everything was done right. that doesn't necessarily have to be nefarious and it has to be an added ability to make sure everyone's downed everything right and give the voters and the american people a little bit more security, you know, that everything went -- that everything went well. we have states like pennsylvania. that state has an automatic trigger, so if the margin between the two candidates is

within .5% you get a recount there and the election officials will look into things over there and make sure that the election result is, in fact, correct and in wisconsin there's another example and there's no specific trigger like there is in pennsylvania, but the candidates can ask for a recount if they are concerned about anything with the election, there are questions of who pays for it depending on what the margin is, but ultimately, these recounts have happened. we saw them in 2020 and we've seen them in previous races, too. usually the recount won't change the margin, and they don't usually end up in a candidate if that was declared the loser ultimately winning and what they do do is give uncertainty in uncertain times. >> ben kamizar, thank you very much for that. coming up, we're not just watching the candidates on the ballot including states trying to pass voting laws and banning

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president biden held a halloween trick or treat bash with a furry friend as his

cohost, that panda, soon revealing itself to be first lady jill biden, really getting into the spirit of the holiday. the white house itself was all dressed up too decked out in fall foliage and jack lanterns for the kids. while handing out candy, the president met a baby in a chicken costume who was cute enough to eat. the president gave the chick a little bite. across the country, voters will decide on nearly 150 ballot measures on issues ranging from immigration to abortion to voting. nbc's mara barrett is here with a breakdown of the big ones to watch. walk us through the key measures. >> 150 is a lot to walk through. you mentioned immigration, arizona is the only state that has anything around immigration on its ballot. it has big stakes. they are looking to increase the employment eligibility data base

and enable local law enforcement to detain and deport unlawful border crosses, even though that's a federal responsibility. and then in terms of voting restrictions and voting access, there are several states across the map, including iowa, idaho, kentucky, missouri, that are looking to tighten voter restrictions and basically make it clear that only american citizens are eligible to vote in the state. now obviously we should make it clear that it is illegal already in both state and federal elections for noncitizens to vote, and it only happens very very rarely. election experts are worried that these types of measures to could push the narrative that noncitizens are voting in higher numbers. as we have heard from republicans. that's something that will be interesting to see if other states tag on to this going forward. and finally, abortion is still on the ballot, as we've seen over the last two plus years since roe was overturned. these ten states are looking to

expand or protect the right to an abortion, and that's something that we've just continued to see as a big driver for people in suburbs and various battleground states across the country, and so i find this type of voting very fascinating because it ultimately is driven by policy and what people are looking to have their leaders held accountable for. advocates for the ballot measures want to make sure voters do their research and vote down the ballot when they fill out the ballot later next week. >> maura barrett, thank you for that. live pictures from albuquerque, new mexico, where donald trump is about to kick off a west coast swing. we'll go there next, but first, starting tomorrow, msnbc reports will bring you special coverage of decision 2024. be sure to tune in beginning at 10:00 a.m. eastern. stay close. more "chris jansing reports" right after this. s" right after this ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ woah, limu! we're in a parade.

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it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, beyond the battlegrounds, any minute now, donald trump will take the stage not in a swing state, but in a state he lost twice. new mexico. why he's making the trip this late in the campaign. and it's not all quiet on the western front, kamala harris making stops today in battleground states arizona and

nevada. zeroing in on voters there with just five days until the election. plus, halloween, harris's running mate, tim walz in erie, pennsylvania. his message after delivering powerful words of hope to north carolinians recovering from hurricane helene. also, inflation, inflation, inflation, with the cost of living at the top of voters' minds, what the economics report says about the state of the economy and what it means to your wallet. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, and we start in new mexico with nbc's steve patterson where donald trump is holding a rally. a reliably blue state, why with five days left would donald trump go there? >> reporter: that is the question of the day, isn't it, chris. you can look at a few reasons. the most salient point, looking